Somewhere between 38,000 and almost 2.8 million non-citizens voted in the 2008 elections, according to a study published in Electoral Studies journal in 2014.
Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest, the study’s co-authors, concluded that “some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections.”
“In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections. Although such participation is a violation of election laws in most parts of the United States, enforcement depends principally on disclosure of citizenship status at the time of voter registration,” Richman and Earnest note
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With californications mandate to issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens, and their allowing them to register to vote at the same time, the motor voter law, of course 2 million illegals voted, just in california. Add all the other states where a blind eye was turned to illegals voting, plus all the dead people who voted democrap, and you easily have at least 3 million fraudulent votes for democraps. Their problem was, they didn’t estimate the number of illegal votes they needed in key states in order to offset the high popularity of Trump. In other words, they underestimated the level of cheating they would have to perpetrate in order to win. They won’t do that next time if we don’t get voter eligibility, and identification laws passed.
Congress needs to pass election laws that would have people registering to vote, provide PROOF that they are A USA citizen. Issue of voter ID card with photo to be presented before voting should correct most voter fraud. There is no reason not to do this. This B-S that it is to discourage minorities from voting is pure nonsense! President Trump get it done this year.
>> There is no reason not to do this. <<
Actually, there is; Congress does not establish election rules, the individual states do. That's how some require a photo ID and others do not.
And its not just the illegal invaders voting. What of “Foreign students” here on a visa” who get registered during those acorn sponsored on campus ‘registration drives’..
Or the hundreds of thousands of dead people STILL on voter rolls all over the place, MANY of which in 4 states were about to be expunged, but the Anti-constitution commie lovers union sued to stop those states from doing so (and liberal activist judges agreed)…
Or the hundreds of thousands of people registered in one state, who then moved to another, and are now registered in THAT state. BUT ARE STILL registered in their prior state(s) as well, so are duplicates..
Or the evidence from Detroitstan where in a # of precincts hundreds of votes were ‘counted and recorded’, but when boxes were open up during verification investigations, only 70 VOTING ballots were located..
Even with ALL THIS evidence out there, there are those who STILL CLING to the leftist mantra of “there’s no such thing as voter fraud and you can’t prove it”..
It’s interesting how one can get low ratings in this forum for simply stating not an opinion, but what the law is. I didn’t write the Constitution, I just refer to it.
I agree, thedove, and furthermore I think it’s dangerous to have the federal government step in and take over election procedures, even if by passing a law (or, more accurately, amending the Constitution) to allow them to do so. That’s what the Obama administration attempted to do by declaring elections part of the infrastructure, remember?
We always need to be careful when proposing ANY long-term action. Back in the civil rights days of the late 1950s and early 1960s, when I was doing the various sit-ins and pray-ins, and when the sit-ins started involving blockades of streets, my father said, “Don’t forget: if you say it’s all right for YOU to do these things, you won’t be able to complain when your opponent does them.” At the time, I thought he was a reactionary obstructionist (hey, I was young and stupid then), but I soon came to realize he was right. I’ve never forgotten that.
>> I was young and stupid then <<
Young and ignorant, perhaps, but obviously not stupid. Ignorant people can learn, stupid people, not so much.
This study only addresses one of ten levels of voter fraud. Voter fraud is totally out of control. MI and PA could not conduct a recount because of massive voter fraud. When is the MI Precinct Manager of Precinct 152 and the other hundreds of precincts submitting more votes (for Hillary) then they had ballots going to be charged with voter fraud? This obvious voter fraud activity has been going on for far too long and should no longer go unpunished. These precinct managers and their staff need to pay stiff penalties, serve substantial jail time, permanent lose of their voter privileges, and of course be ban from being near any voter precinct in the future. These cancerous precinct managers and their staff are the only reason that people like Obama, the Clintons, and Schumer/Wiener get into office.
Ask your U.S. Congressman and U.S. Senator representative to sponsor “SAFE VOTES” now to modernize our antiquated and flawed voting system to prevent all 10 levels of voter fraud with a comprehensive plan of proven techniques and save tax payers billions of dollars each election cycle.
Heck, remember those 2 stories (one from Ohio and iirc one from CA) where boxes upon boxes of ‘pre-filled out ballots’ were located in various storage containers? We were told in the news “Investigations will be launched”.
BUT SINCE THEN. SILENCE. NOT one news source has released a DAMN thing about those investigations and what was found…
They did the recount in the 3 wrong states! You want to find the fraud? Investigate California, Nevada and Arizona! It’s time for a national/state voter’s card.
I would also add in Washington, NY, Taxachuttets and Colorado to that..
In addition to cleaning up the voter registrations, we should also instigate a method of preventing multiple votes. We had the Iraqi’s get a stamp on their hand when they voted, preventing them from voting multiple times. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
What’s good for the sheep is good for the goats. Finger dye is one way to separate them.
>> No question that would work, if it weren’t for the ridiculous early voting times and the overuse of “absentee” ballots. In the first case, several weeks is plenty of time for the dye to be gone, and in the latter case absentee ballots would have to be eliminated or severely restricted, and I’m sure you can already hear the outcry concerning how this “targets” minorities in order to disenfranchise them. In the case you cited, all votes were cast on the same day (what a novel idea), and in person (another novel idea).
Heck, we have easy ways to Fingerprint and verify someone is who they say they are. ALL points of entries into the US uses them. SO WHY NOT install fingerprint scanners linked to that District/states Voter database rolls. Have your prints on record when you REGISTER to vote. Get them verified each time you vote.
Good point Dove.
Good solution User.
Yep, fingerprinting would probably work, ituser, and it would offer the side benefit of weeding out felons who have not had their rights restored. Never get past a liberal SCOTUS, but that’s what most of us are hoping Trump can eliminate.
Glad you both like that idea..
It’s certainly likely that many non-citizens voted in past elections, but even the study cited in the article has to use speculative terms about probabilities rather than hard evidence. Furthermore estimates that range from tens of thousands to 2.8 million are such a wide range that one wonders how they were arrived at. (Obviously, the article doesn’t give a description of methodology.) Please note that I’m not disputing the likelihood that non-citizens are voting; I’m pretty sure many are. But I’d want more information about studies that claimed the reverse as well. We have to be as careful to scrutinize evidence for our own case as we are about our opponents’ cases. (And I really don’t care how many 1-stars I get for this. My livelihood and the state of my soul don’t depend on online ratings.)
>> Somewhere between 38,000 and almost 2.8 million non-citizens voted in the 2008 elections, <<
With a range that wide, the figures are all but meaningless.
Exactly what I said — among other things –in my post above.