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The climate debate: Malleable 'proofs'

July 14, 2016 at 11:35 am 16 Fresh Ink
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In preparation for their convention this month, Democrats are taking aim at so-called “climate deniers.” Lending a hand is the father of the long disputed “hockey stick” global-temperature graph, who now says facts no longer are necessary to substantiate the climate change story line.

People can simply see the outcome of man-made emissions, says Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State.

Climate models “increasingly are unnecessary,” says the climate researcher, because the manifestations of climate change are “playing out in real time.” Would these be the same climate models used by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which have been consistently wrong?

Mr. Mann, who has sued a number of his critics for defamation, this spring acknowledged the early 2000 “warming slowdown.” He now says that climate change is obvious in hurricanes, flooding and droughts in different parts of the United States.

But just last year the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies reported that the nine-year reduction in Category 3 hurricanes, starting in 2006, beat the previous record of eight years in 1861-68. Wouldn’t that suggest that temperature patterns are cyclical rather than influenced by human activity?

Climate data can be so troublesome when facts doesn’t comport with a political party’s platform — or “science” that is far from “settled.”

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  1. ltuser
    ltuser July 14, 2016 at 11:48 am

    Who cares about facts. We will make up what we wanna..

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    • eagleseven
      eagleseven July 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm

      When I see white polar bears in my backyard in Florida maybe, just maybe I will consider global warming as a reality.!!

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  2. simpleman31 July 14, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Crunch the number to fit your agenda!

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    • Scruffy-USN-Retired
      Scruffy-USN-Retired July 15, 2016 at 7:43 am

      As I have written before: Liberals only believe what they WANT to bleieve, facts, truth, reality and history are all irrelevant to them if they do not WANT to believe them.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser July 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm

      Don’t forget one of their favored tactics.. Cook the #s to FIT their agenda. Then call anyone who tries crying foul on those #s a bigot etc.

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  3. 440volt July 14, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Climate models “increasingly are unnecessary,”
    That’s because it’s God’s choice, not man’s if humans become extinct in an ice age or fry to a crisp.
    ANYONE that presumes to know the will of God is sealing their own fate.

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    • daves July 15, 2016 at 7:21 am

      With that mentality, why would a Christian even vote? It’s all God’s will righr?

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    • baitfish July 15, 2016 at 8:35 am

      Correct 440. Man has tried to take the place of God since Adam took his first bite of forbidden fruit. Man became so arrogant and debased that he refused to listen to Noah, so God wiped him off the earth. Man has once again become so arrogant and debased, that God will soon wipe him from the earth again, and there is NOTHING that can be done about it. Global warming/climate change is a scam to separate you from more of your money.

      And to daves; you know nothing about Christianity, do you?

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  4. joefriday July 14, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    I remember those Time rag covers from the 70s that preached to us over and over about the looming Ice Age that was going to kill millions. Much like the renewable energy gurus who predicted in 1979 that we would “run out of oil in 30 years”. Seems that the facts caught up with the oil industry critics… or maybe they just shifted their career into bilking taxpayers with ‘research’ about ‘global warming’.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser July 14, 2016 at 4:37 pm

      More than likely they did shift over to that industry..

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    • DrGadget July 14, 2016 at 4:58 pm

      These fools have yet to be right about anything, other than the willingness of the Government to cut them a fat check every year.

      I refuse to watch it, but there are people who have pointed out the comically ludicrous claims made in Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth”. By now the oceans ought to be boiling hot, at least according to Gore’s outrageous claims.

      There is no debate, and there never has been. GW alarmists are fact-deprived and can only use threats to make their point. Everything about Global Warming is a big commie lie. I’ve looked at their “science”. It’s all made up. There’s no substance to any of it, and I challenge any of their kool-aid drinkers to show me one shred of undeniable proof.

      A few months ago I saw where the GW alarmists were saying that GW is causing problems now. So I googled what problems we’re having now. Stuff like, “If this shoreline erosion continues, we may not have a beach soon.” No, genius. That’s soon, not now. They don’t even understand the word “now”.

      Don’t waste your breath talking to them either. They are clueless. Just say, “Oh, you’re one of them. Never mind. I’ll stop using big words around you.”

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  5. Problem solver July 14, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    Here are some links you should view to learn about climate change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFyH-b3FRvE

    ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPP7P43wulg ​

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owm25OHGglk​–
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM​​

    ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmZF8gB7Gs​​

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  6. Problem solver July 14, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    The second link above seems to have a problem so I have made a new version of it. It features Burt Rutan the aircraft genius.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPP7P43wulg

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  7. yankeegal July 14, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    As my father used to say ‘don’t confuse me with the facts – my mind is made up.’ The only difference is, my father was joking.

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    • daves July 15, 2016 at 7:25 am

      Get the facts. Every scientific organization in the world agrees that humans are causing the planet to warm.

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  8. Problem solver July 14, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    The data on climate change is being unfair to the Democrats so they are now the deniers. They through out all this false scientific stuff and expect everyone to believe it. They are trying to make it a crime for energy people to say anything negative about humans being responsible for climate change. This planet needs much more CO2 to keep people from starving but starving people don’t vote.

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