President Trump on Thursday struck back at the House caucus that sunk his ObamaCare replacement bill, threatening their legislative careers if the staunchly conservative members refuse to get on board with the new president’s agenda.
The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 30, 2017
Later Thursday, Freedom Caucus member Rep. Justin Amash returned fire in the Republican civil war:
It didn't take long for the swamp to drain @realDonaldTrump. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment. https://t.co/9bDo8yzH7I
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 30, 2017
Freedom Caucus co-founder Jim Jordan, however, refused to take Trump’s bait during an interview on “America’s Newsroom.”
“We appreciate the president,” Jordan said. “We’re trying to help the president, but the fact is you have to look at the legislation.”
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.@realDonaldTrump it's a swamp not a hot tub. We both came here to drain it. #SwampCare polls 17%. Sad! https://t.co/4kjygV2tdS
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) March 30, 2017
Take a deep breath here, but don’t reach for your “calming jar” yet. I was not convinced that the tweet implied the “threatening of their legislative careers” of the freedom caucus members. HOWEVER on re-reading the tweet it seems that there is no other way to interpret it. WOW on second thought I’ll take the sky blue “calming jar with the aluminized snow” and go off to a safe place. Perhaps the tweet is a fake, perhaps there was a misstatement that has now been corrected. If not is is truly very alarming….in that it appears to me that the president is walking into a trap set up by the Gope and Ryan. I don’t believe making nice with the likes of Schumer and Pelosi and shafting the base is the best way to go, it is almost like winning the battle (the election) and losing the war (draining the swamp). I sincerely hope that my concerns are ill considered and incorrect and quite ready to accept it.
The tweet is real. I took it from Trump’s twitter feed and posted it here. But, it’s good to be cautious. There is so much fake ‘news.’
Do you know that you can read Trump’s twitter feed yourself? You don’t have to be a Twitter user. You can access it from your browser. Here’s the link.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The Freedom Caucus tweet was posted at 6:07 am this morning. It is currently the 2nd tweet in his stream. Just go to the link and scroll down one.
I agree Zman i was shocked when i read that tweet, cause there IS no other way to read it BUT an outright threat to the Freedom caucus. AND IMO that is what the liberals do. Threaten and bully someone into compliance.. NOT what conservatives do..
DON, this was bad form for ya mate..
I think we’re all agreed. This looks very bad for Trump.
Trump needs to do a 180 and back off the Freedom Caucus. He should be intimidating people like John McCain and Lindsay Graham instead.
Trump not only needs to fix this, but he then needs to make a public apology to the FC.
Oh and one more thing… SLAP!
Donald, nobody elected you to repeal and REPLACE. Just repeal.
The President must have someone giving him extremely bad advice, and you’re all right; apologize to the Freedom Caucus, and repeal, not replace the ACA. If the President blows it, I doubt he will be reelected, and the same goes for the Republican majorities in Congress. The midterm elections may be very telling.
As things now stand, the best thing he has going for him are his Supreme Court nominees. If he gets those right, the country might start heading in the right direction, but one never knows until they’re actually on the bench, and we see the decisions they are making.
My best guess is the biggest obstacle to all of this is the upper level management, in every federal agency, that was put in place over the last 8 years. That is where the real house cleaning needs to occur, and it needs to happen fast.
I am having a hard time believing this. An old saying, “Dance with the one who brung ya”. I paid VERY close attention during the campaign and it was NEVER sold as REPEAL AND REPLACE, IT WAS R E P E A L – PERIOD! What we had thrown at us is real Ryano piece of work.
This is a real buzz kill for all the people that have staunchly supported DT throughout this whole fiasco. He’s not been a liar before, so I question this incident with skepticism.
[The President must have someone giving him extremely bad advice, and you’re all right;]
It wouldn’t shock me to se that is Ryan’s doing..
President Trump: You were my second choice for president, but I was an enthusiastic supporter. I will be with you all the way no matter what lies the MSM pushes and to implement the agenda you proposed and the platform of the Republican Party. Where you will lose me is if you wage war against the most sincere men and women in Congress, the members of the House Freedom Caucus. If you cut them out, I will be out too.
Since when do we pass legislation based off the likes in a poll.Seriouly, We do what is best for the people;Wether they understand it or not.
very sad but I’m with the conservatives on this = extremely disappointed with Trump if it’s true…
Me also!
Ditto.
Maybe I should step back…at the reasons I supported President Trump…while the GOP was full of wimps like RYAN and McConnell…these individuals did not risk their whole well being on issues that Trump did…and those issues were WHAT WE OUT HERE ASKED for…
We did not ask for “preservation of the GOP and its RINOS, nor of Ryan, nor of McConnell…”
We asked for someone with the gonads needed to get this country turned around, whether it’s demise is because of the GOP, Dems, Libs. Conservatives…and TRUMP stepped forward…
Now I see that WE out here are WAFFLING…and waffling when Trump needs us most…
So step back, and try to recall if you asked for someone to “preserve the GOP, or the Dems, or some other party…NO, you will recall you wrote here things to help TRUMP, and for the RYANs etc to start acting to help…
Now you are brinking on being a “turn-around voter”…
To hell with the GOP…Trump is showing us his leadership skills, and it includes exposing the “***** willows”…so we best ask ourselves:
“Which are you?”
President Trump…forgive us for looking like “Girly-Men”…some of us just can’t process toughness fast enough when it happens
…and “wafflers” are the real culprits who can be the traitors!
Thanks for sticking your neck out for us, and for your help…Go For IT!
downdraft I think your mistaken in the fact that WE THE PEOPLE do not work for President Trump. He works for us and the majority of the people that voted for him didn’t hire him to make nice with the RINO estabs and Demonrats. We hired him to repeal Obummercare, kick some establishment butt and get this country back on the right track. The members of the FREEDOM Caucus are NOT ESTABLISMENT RINO’s. They know who hired them and what their job is. Trump needs to step back and “dance with who brought him to the dance”.
Trump Threatening???? Where in hell are the reports on Schumer’s threats keeping democrat senators in lock step obstructing Tump. Same for Pelosi. Welcome to political reality folks, nothing new here.
The above is not a news story but an attempt to paint Trumps actions as stated; “threatening “. Trump is saying nothing different than what powerful politicians do all the time. Consider it “the political norm” of our two political parties. Stay calm and strong and do overreact to the 24/7 minute by minute news cycle on one sided “news”.
Don’t you realize, when a dem does it, “Its all good Hoss. But hell will freeze over before its “Good” for a conservative to do the same…
Good post Eagle525…but I thought these vocals of Trump were “PROMISES”…and good ones.
No one is reacting to “news.” They are responding to a Tweet from Trump who is on the wrong side of this issue. Remember that he is using Twitter to get around the news media. What he said is his words, unfiltered, unchanged. You can’t blame someone else for his tweets.
All the Trump followers who think that everyone should praise him no matter how wrong he may be can forget it. Most of us won’t do that.
I voted for him but I didn’t sign a pledge to support him no matter how wrong he is. He is not God and I am not blind. When he’s wrong, he’s wrong. And he’s wrong to attack the Freedom Caucus.
As I have directly communicated to the White House, with attention from the President requested, the decision to threaten and make war against Congressional Conservatives, particularly The Freedom Caucus, is woefully, and potentially tragically, ill-conceived and entirely mis-directed. The anti-Trumpers are NOT Conservatives, but the squishy RINOs, led by the inept, incompetent, and traitorous, Paul Ryan. Had The Freedom Caucus not stood on their principles and loyalty to their pledge to repeal/replace Obamacare, we would have been burdened, and likely sunk come 2018, with a fraud, a sham, a lie. What Ryan and his cronies did, in secret, without consulting Conservatives or Moderates, either, was fashion an “amendment” to Obamacare that plainly retained nearly all aspects of it, and so did nothing more than change the names of things, ACA to AHCA, subsidies to tax credits, and “replace” the disastrous government program with, yes, another government program. (continued)
(continued) What was promised, by Republicans, FOR SEVEN YEARS, and by Mr. Trump the campaigner, was complete Repeal and Replacement of the Fed debacle with a return to free market competition. Ryan offered sometimes obtuse explanations, in defense of his “binary choice” plan, an ultimatum to House members who had no input at all in its fabrication, for why it had to be done in three phases, why it couldn’t do this, or that, or anything he pledged to do. He channeled the Lefty Dems in this travesty, since they foisted Obamacare upon the Congress in much the same way. Except, the Dems were strong-armed into accepting it, most of them sublimely ignorant of what were its provisions, while Ryan is weak and could not strong-arm The Freedom Caucus, for instance. As truthdetector commented, if Mr. Trump fails to see the truth of this and carries out his very much mistaken vendetta against Conservatives, then he will lose me, too.
doced, I don’t recall anyone ever mentioning replacing the ACA until recently. What I’d like to know is who started this replacement nonsense in the first place. If the ACA is repealed, the private sector can do the replacing just fine on their own.
No idea who first pushed it into Trump’s head he needs to replace it, but it was first (to my knowledge) being banded around in mid november, right after the election..
Hey Trump, I have supported you all the way. Don’t be dissing the Freedom Caucus. I stand with them a hell of a lot more firmly then I stand with you or the herd of RINOs which is what’s left of the GOP>
bad idea mr.president.
Same here Capt T. I would RATHER he get the Freedom caucus onboard fully, and work WITH THEM by going MORE conservative, and STOP pushing the RINO stuff that ryan keeps coming p with..
Yes, exactly. If he goes that route he will have tens of thousands of grassroots Republicans calling the moderates to push them to do the right thing. The so-called “American Health Care Act” would have been a lead necklace around Trump’s neck, and would surely sink all Republicans.
Dear Don,
Please listen to the Freedom Caucus they’re the reason you were elected. They objected to the bill on principle. The Democrats strictly based on politics. It is really odd seeing them on the same side.
Going against the Freedom Caucus would be a mistake. They are who the people voted for to end Obamacare. Instead, get a draft they approve then work in changes by moderates. Stop, when you get to 216 votes. At the very least resubmit the 2015 repeal bill that Obama vetoed. If that’s too hard pass a law right now that ISP’s can sell across state lines. Ryan couldn’t plan a train wreck. Ignore the dems — they aren’t going to agree on anything.
I stand with, and greatly appreciate the Freedom Caucus.Much as I like President Trump, he is really wrong on this one. The Freedom Caucus is doing what the people have asked them to do. In fact, I called every one of them asking them to stand strong against this sham of a bill. I am very sorry to hear President Trump threaten them. The Freedom Caucus certainly stood with Trump when half the Republicans were opposing his election.
Donald Trump said over and over in his campaign that the first thing he would do when he took office was to cancel Obamacare. Not only did he fail to do this as promised, he let Ryan come up with a warmed over version of Obamacare. The Freedom Caucus reminded Trump of his promise and instead of coming through, he sided with that RINO Paul Ryan in trying to get the revised Obamacare health care plan through. It wasn’t the Democrats fault that lousy revision died, but the Freedom Caucus who stuck to their guns. If Trump doesn’t live up to promises, he will find himself thrown out of office in four years. Pass this on to his administration.
President Trump had better back off this , and do it quick. If he thinks he can do anything without the support of the Tea Party coalition he is as crazy as the democrats think he is. Just BACK OFF, and do it now, or we are doomed with the progressive agenda for decades. IMO this is an out and out betrayal of the people who put Trump in office. What the hell is he thinking?
Wrong move Mr. President!
It was the Tea Party people who put you in office. (Conservatives)
The Ryancare bill stinks! Ryan is an (establishment Republican) like your C of S! You are asking the wrong people to help you! Drain YOUR swamp of all establishment, and democrats, and you will do wonders! You will have all the Conservatives backing you. If you continue the path you are on…you will lose every time. Especially if you compromise with the left/Marxists!
You were supposed to repeal Obamacare…not change it!
I say repeal, and get the government the hell out of my doctor’s office!
President Trump: You need to drain the swamp of all established Republicans like Ryan and McConnell. We need to trust the Freedom Caucus group because they have your back for the right health care to pass. We elected you to Repeal Obamacare in its entirety. We elected you to put in a fresh healthcare plan not to replace it with Ryancare that was concocted behind closed doors. That was how Obamacare was done. Please listen to the Conservative groups because they really want to back you in this. I voted for you and I still have faith in you . I will be praying for you that you listen to God in what he is telling you in your heart about this matter.
I’m so fed up with the Republican party. They simply do not know how to lead, much less what they are doing. 7 years they had to plan for this moment Re: Obamacare. Heck, health care would not even be in play if not for the Dems. I mean ever. Dems without being in office control the agenda, seem to control the dialog. Paul Ryan should damn well have known he did not have the votes, but pulled President Trump right in. Tax revision: What are they even bringing to us. It’ll be another fiasco like health care. Is it going to be hidden from other Republicans and Americans like health care? Ryan was never a Trump supporter until he saw it was safer than not when Trump looked like the winner. His puppy whining about not wanting speaker, until he was and you don’t see him handing it over. He is not to be trusted Mr. Trump. I cannot think of much that Rs initiated for this country since Reagon and Newt. Voters voted for Trump NOT Republican party. Get it together you’re blowing it fast!
President Trump, remember who supported you and why you are there. If you lose us the next four years will not be very pleasant for you.
It is unbelievable to me that President Trump is doing everything to help/ protect America and he gets bashed by everyone while his predecessor destroyed and divided this country in the most sinister ways, apologized to the Arabs for America’s behavior, ran up the national debt to more than all the presidents before him combined, spent millions upon millions of taxpayer money to send his wife and daughters, etc. on a ridiculous number of lavish and extended vacations, Pelosi introduced Obamacare with substantial earmarks that met *his* agenda not the American people’s, had nothing to do with health care and said to Congress ” Just sign it and read it later”!!! yet NOBODY said one word. Whatever happened to “You can keep your doctor”?? And everyone will be able to afford having health insurance. In the meantime the prices keep going up and up. He signed a disastrous deal with Iran against us and as a “good-bye” to the American people, 2 hrs before leaving office he gave them a “few” more billions in spite of them admitting their hatred for the US and their desire to exterminate us. And… not a word from anyone. In the meantime, Trump wants to do what IS possible and legal to stop them, while you want to impeach him! How much of the Kool-aid have you folks drank?
I just gave you a 1 and I would have given you a -10 if I could.
If you don’t care that the bill was Obamacare lite then you’re happy to have Trump attack the only conservatives in the House who will stand up for good healthcare.
If you think the federal government should be running healthcare then you’re happy.
If you will kiss Trump and Ryan’s butt no matter what they get wrong, instead of pointing out that they could have had a better bill, then you’ll get what you deserve.
What RINOs don’t have the guts to do is repeal Obamacare, turn healthcare oversight back to the states and let the free market work. That’s what should have happened.
Big mistake, Mr. President. Due to the Freedom Caucus your name’s not on Obamacare yet but it looks like you will do your damnedest to put it there.
If President Trump doesn’t get his act together he’s going to hear those words he’s famous for “Your Fired”.
Snowy, you have been snowed. President Trump is eventually going to turn it over to the free-market but he did it overnight the liberals would Make sure we have a revolution.
As far as “kissing butt “, I have never seen so many ignorant people kiss the butt of Trump’s predecessor regardless of the atrocities he put into effect.
I suggest you think before you talk, *you truly deserve a -10.
Trump has alligators fighting him from both parties in the swamp. We the people need to vote these people out of office in order to make America great again. The crooked republicans as well as the democrats because they are looking out for themselves not the people.
Threatening the conservatives who represent those who voted Trump into office is not only disappointing but is reason to doubt Trump’s credibility. Having voted for him, many conservatives are now forced to make sure Trump keeps his campaign promises; otherwise, Trump will be dumped, like any other lier.
Paul Ryan is in his ear and that is why he is making such a statement. Trump cannot and must not trust Ryan. He does not have his back and has his own agenda.
I agree Gdonna.. ALL this is cause Trum has decided he can trust that backstabbing snake Ryan.. AND WHO it was that told him that, i would like to see, so we can ut a boot up his rear end.. RYAN is the most untrustworthy RINO around imo..
Well Well, I am amazed at what President Trump has accomplished and is attempting to do. I have agreed with the freedom caucus before and like some of their suggestions to modify Paul Ryan health care plan.(I do not like Paul Ryan one bit and would like to see him kicking rocks down the road) But at the end of the day the freedom caucus is not who i have faith in. It is President Trump…If he needs it to propel us forward to accomplish the goals and agendas he has set, so be it. I believe he has far more insight,Drive and motivation than the freedom caucus. If the Republicans do not unit to accomplish what we can and move the ball forward,We will be where the Republican party usually is …..Standing with their *** in their hands and the Democrats rolling right over us.
If the Republican Party including the freedom caucus would stay the course perhaps we can unite to accomplish these goals…or just give it back to the Dems in 2018.