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Nearly 7 of 10 Dems believe Christianity as violent as Islam

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A new nationwide poll reveals that two-thirds of Democrats believe that Islam “encourages violence the same as other religions” – including Christianity.

Despite the numerous jihadist terrorist attacks on American soil, Democrats continue to maintain the politically correct mindset that the Islamic holy book, the Koran, is relatively peaceful – similar to the Bible of Christianity or the Torah of Judaism.

“The trusting attitude towards Islam is revealed in the February 2017 poll follows 17 tumultuous years of attacks against Americans motivated or shaped by Islamic ideology throughout the United States – from the 9/11 atrocity to the Pulse nightclub attack in Florida committed by an observant, orthodox Muslim man from a Muslim family,” Breitbart News reported.

Jihad, Shariah law peaceful?

Reflecting the multiculturalism teachings of the U.S. public education system and the pro-Palestinian/Iranian foreign policy touted by former President Barack Obama, former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and other Leftists, an overwhelming majority of Democrats in America see Islam as no more violent than other major world religions – even though militant jihad and the overtly merciless Shariah law are integral parts of the religion.

“Merely one-in-seven Democrats believe that Islam is more violent than other religions, such as Christianity, Mormonism, Judaism and Buddhism,” Breitbart’s Neil Munro relayed from the CBS Poll. “One in 10 Democrats believe that Islam is less violent than other religions, according to the poll of 1,019 adults, which was taken Feb. 1 and Feb. 2.”

This progressive view of the Middle Eastern religion is not shared by most conservatives, who believe that national security measures should be taken to counter the jihadist threat that has consistently penetrated the U.S. border for nearly two decades.

“In contrast, Republicans have a far colder view of Islam,” Munro added. “Sixty-three percent of Republicans view Islam as aggressive, compared to other religions, and only 2 percent view Islam as more pacific than other faiths.”

Even though the Koran calls for Muslims to kill “infidels” – those who do not submit to the god of Islam (Allah) — and leaders frequently call for fellow jihadists to forward their holy war by wiping out the “Great Satan” (the U.S.) and the “Little Satan” (Israel), a significant minority of Americans identifying with the GOP think Islam promotes peace as much as the Bible.

“Still, 25 percent of Republican voters believe Islam’s encouragement of violence is level with Christianity’s doctrines, including the Beatitudes passage, reported by Matthew: ‘Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God,’” the conservative journalist pointed out.

Shockingly, when looking at Americans as a whole, half (50 percent) say Islam encourages violence about the same as other religions. Even more surprisingly, the majority of Independents (53 percent) ascribe to this belief, while only 28 percent of this political party believes Islam is more violent than other religions.

Discounting the words of Allah?

In stark contrast to the biblical teachings of Jesus Christ to “turn the other cheek” and Scripture telling Christians that “vengeance is God’s,” the Koran – which true Muslims believe is the direct transcript of many of Allah’s commands – directs Islamic adherents to acts of violence and various forms of brutality toward those who do not follow his ways, as seen in the two following verses.

“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.” –Koran 8/12

“Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.” –Koran 2/190

“So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens.” –Koran 47/4

Obama’s interpretation the Koran’s teachings as being peaceful – to support his Syrian refugee resettlement programs, Iran nuke deal and push for a Palestinian state – is argued to be nothing less than misinformed.

“Former President Barack Obama and other leaders in the Democratic Party have repeatedly suggested that Islam is not more violent than other religions,” Munro informed. “Obama told Muslims in February 2016 that Islam means ‘peace,’ although it actually means ‘submission.’”

Three senior Democratic legislators in the U.S. House of Representatives recently proclaimed Islam to be a religion of peace, as well.

“There are over three million Americans who practice Islam peacefully,” the Democratic leaders declared in a letter they signed on February 3, according to Breitbart. “The specter that there would be a federal program that – in name and action – singles out people of a particular faith warrants immediate [critical] consideration by the Department of Justice.”

Christians the violent ones?

Left-leaning activists and journalists have often blamed Christians for violence around the world, even though they rarely claim that their hostile behavior is incited by Scripture.

“However – and this will probably shock many, so you might want to take a breath – overwhelmingly, those who have committed terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe aren’t Muslims,” a Daily Beast columnist asserted, stressing the role of European nationalist groups in terrorism rates.

Another progressive publication attempted to take the emphasis off of Islam as a promoter of terrorism by turning the argument around.

“Conservatives claim that all terrorists are Muslim, but most violent attacks in the U.S. are carried out by white men,” a Salon.com article reads, with the author focusing on the murders of abortionists.

It is also argued that the mainstream media does its best to paint those concerned about Islamic terrorism as haters, isolationists and bigots, while portraying those who disassociate Islam from terrorism as champions of tolerance and civil rights.

“[E]stablishment media sites have played up the pro-Western, anti-Islam views of White House officials without even trying to address the truth or falsity of the views,” Munro pointed out.

He went on to note the dichotomy between the Islamic and Christian influences on societies around the world.

“In contrast, pro-Western critics of Islam routinely argue that Islam’s mixture of religion and political ideology has a harmful impact on adherents and on societies,” Murno added. “They argue that Islam is far more aggressive and harmful to societies than what they describe as the beneficial impact of Christianity’s mix of faith and reason, freedom and law.”

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  1. beowolfe February 10, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    Well, Duh….. because it is.

    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”
    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

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      usafoldsarge February 10, 2017 at 1:39 pm

      well well, good ol buddy beowolf shows up……….and he scores on wa2qcj……
      Idiot- there are 108 passages in the Koran that leave no doubt as to the intention of that pedophile.. Find in the New Testament where Christ advocates any of this KaRp that mohamed does. This beowolf is just another of the liberals’ useful idiots that will receive his just rewards when he no longer is useful.

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    • 4liberty February 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm

      10 of 10 democrats belong in either a mental institution or on a chain gang.
      It is those in congress/government and universities who belong on the chain gangs.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      While i agree Betiwulfe is normally wrong, Christianity’s history is RIFE with violence, forced conversion and slaughter of those who wouldn’t convert.

      HOWEVER, that has not been the case since at least the late 1700s/early 1800s..

      In the past 100 years, can ANYONE name a single instance of violence caused by the church or christians that was NOT someone flipping out and killing, but they just ‘happened to be christian’??
      You can’t.. BUT we can all list at least 50 if not MORE instances of it happening in just the past 10 years by Islam…

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    • surlycurmudgen February 10, 2017 at 4:12 pm

      Like I have said other times and places, Islam is antithetical to everything America is, to every religion on the planet (Islam is not a religion), to civilization itself. The only accomplishment of Islam has been the destruction of numerous civilizations stretching from India to North Africa. Islam with its tribal rule is a remnant of the stone age that the remainder of the world has rightfully left behind them.

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    • oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      beowolfe, try to keep up. We are not talking about CENTURIES ago in the mists of history–we are talking about TODAY. To conflate the two to make your argument seem valid is just more liberal LOON BS, and no more valid than any of the OTHER BS liberal LOONS invent to “prove” they are right. Sorry, but being LEFT, they are NEVER RIGHT, and, therefore, ALWAYS WRONG.

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    • DrGadget February 10, 2017 at 5:06 pm

      Your source is wrong and so your conclusion would have to be wrong. The West vs. Islam is NOT a clash of civilizations. It’s a clash of civilization vs. barbarism.

      If the West was so horrible, then why are so many Muslims trying to get here that we need to enact a travel ban? How many people from Indiana are trying to flee to Yemen?

      The West is superior in every meaningful way, beginning with our foundational belief in Christ, the Son of the Living God. When compared against their belief in the false moon god Allah, of the Babylonians, there is no comparison.

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    • columba February 10, 2017 at 6:00 pm

      One of the major differences between violent Muslims and violent Christians is that the Koran commands its adherents to fight and kill (or subjugate) nonbelievers, whereas the New Testament forbids it. Regardless of the statistics — and today’s statistics yield tens of thousands of Muslim religion-motivated attacks since 9/11, and virtually no Christian-motivated attacks — Muslim killers are acting in obedience to their holy book, whereas Christians are acting in disobedience to theirs. So the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more dangerous he becomes, whereas the more devout a Christian becomes, the more generous and life-affirming he becomes. This doesn’t mean that every Christian is a saint; on the contrary, a true Christian acknowledges that we’re all sinners and depend on the grace of God to keep us from doing evil. But it does mean that the Muslim system of belief is inherently dangerous to nonadherents and the Christian system of belief is not.

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    • Recce1 February 10, 2017 at 11:53 pm

      After 1981, members of groups such as the Army of God, Christian Identity, and Christian Patriot movements, and Lambs of Christ began attacking abortion clinics and doctors. About 11 were killed.

      Eric Rudolph carried out the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing as well as attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub.

      In 1996 3 men, Charles Barbee, Robert Berry, and Jay Merelle, were charged with 2 bank robberies and bombings at banks, a Spokane newspaper, and a Planned Parenthood office in WA. The men were anti-Semitic Christian Identity theorists (akin to the KKK) who believed God wanted them to carry out violent attacks and that would hasten the ascendancy of the Aryan race.

      In 2011the Hutaree Christian militia movement had more weapons than the combined weapons holdings of all Islamic terror defendants charged in the US since the 9/11. But it was shown they were liberal registered Democrats.

      The 2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, in which 3 were killed and 9 injured, Robert Lewis Dear claimed to be a Christian and extremely evangelistic, but didn’t need to follow the Bible in his actions. He claimed as long as he believed he’d be saved, he could do whatever he pleased. That I’d say was delusional.

      Still, that pales in comparison to those killed by those motivated by Muslim doctrine.

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 1:18 am

      Sounds like most of those were just nutso there reece. BUT i keep forgetting of that “army of god” whak groups targeting abortion clinics. BUT to me many of those were just using the bible as a COVER.. Not doing the killing cause the bible commands it like the Koran does for Muslims..

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    • Recce1 February 11, 2017 at 3:26 am

      Ituser, I realize many claim that those who killed abortionists and bombed clinics weren’t real Christians. Many deny that Christians attacked gays and other targets besides those related to abortion. But that’s just trying to avoid the fact that there have been some Christians who’ve engaged in violence.

      Of course as a Fundamentalist Pentecostal Christian I believe such violates the very teachings of Jesus, Paul, and the Disciples and that they’ll have to answer to God for their actions. He may well say He never knew them. But let’s not try to hide inconvenient facts by our saying they weren’t real Christians.

      Even on many of these conservative sites I’ve seen MANY calls by supposed Christians for violence against Muslims, gays, liberals, and Democrats. I’m not talking about self defense which I support. So the church, the body of believers, isn’t without sin. Please keep in mind 2 Chronicles 7:14 and God’s promise to heal our land if we repent and turn back to Him.

      On the other hand, I believe if one is FUNDAMENTALLY faithful to the teachings of Mohammed in the Qur’an and the Hadith, then one will engage in violence out of intolerance and hatred. That’s why as you’ve said a number of times that Islam is incompatible with Western Civilization. It goes to the very teachings of both faiths. One teaches love, the other hate. One worships God, the other Satan.

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    • Jota_ February 11, 2017 at 7:35 am

      “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

      Which begs the question how they developed “superiority in applying organized violence” in the absence of superior ideas and beliefs?

      So we are then to believe others had really better ideas and beliefs but they just to could not get them to work so they did them any good

      Hahahahaha

      Obviously, then, the one who best organized his violence had the best idea

      And what are those “ideas or values or religion” which are so uniquely western they were not adopted and adapted from others because it worked?

      The English language has more words than any other language for one reason, English incorporates the thoughts of others through their words

      So would argue what makes Islam so backwards and violent is when you have only one idea you fight that much harder to keep it, because when it is gone you will have nothing. Even worse, if they were to have other ideas they might find the idea of Islam is not the everything they thought it was and they were really fighting for nothing, all along. Oh the irony

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    • Jota_ February 11, 2017 at 7:46 am

      “Even on many of these conservative sites I’ve seen MANY calls by supposed Christians for violence against Muslims, gays, liberals, and Democrats.”

      It is just that some of us believe we should not be soft on crime.

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    • Jota_ February 11, 2017 at 8:04 am

      “I realize many claim that those who killed abortionists and bombed clinics weren’t real Christians. Many deny that Christians attacked gays and other targets besides those related to abortion.”

      “real Christians”

      No such THING exist, period

      If you saw a dead body laying beside the road what physical characteristics would determine if it was a “real Christians?” or not?

      It is a concept which exist in your head, no where else

      And then you JUDGE it was a “real Christians” who did it despite the fact there is nothing in the teaching of Christ which would make the individual “Christ like” for doing it, which is what the word christian means, Christ like.

      So if they are the real Christ, then it was Christ who was not who he said he was.

      Either Christ is like that or they are not like Christ. You cannot have it any other way.

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    • buzzman February 11, 2017 at 9:44 am

      beowolfe – How about you immigrating to Syria, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan and then proudly proclaim your faith in Judaism. If you survive come back and start your troll posts again.

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    • Adjunct George February 11, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      The frightening thing about bewolfe’s comment and quote is this type of item is being taught in our schools as truth. We must get back the school systems so those of you who are young and patriots had better start running for the school boards. Start by protecting the teachers who refuse to use Howard Zinn’s history book, which should be called “A Proctologist View of American History.” It is one of the most widely used history textbooks. I am not surprised at Bewolfe’s comments if he is under 40. It is the view of many people coming out of our current proselytized graduates.

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    • Recce1 February 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      Jota, I agree we shouldn’t be soft on crime. Just the opposite, we should be tough, especially when it comes to sedition. When liberals and Democrats, or anyone else, riot, loot, burn buildings, and shoot people we should come down on them like a ton of bricks. Terrorists even if they only wound people should be executed.

      But what I was referring to were the calls by many supposed conservatives for violence against law abiding Muslims, gays, liberals, and Democrats. I’ll go one further. Some knuckle dragging Neanderthals also called for violence against blacks, Hispanics, and Jews.

      As a nation of faith and laws we mustn’t go down that road again. That’s all. So I think we’re on the same page.

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    • Recce1 February 11, 2017 at 3:17 pm

      Jota, I can see your point. Real Christians would live as best they could by the teachings of the Bible, especially the Gospel. Of course neither we as individuals nor as a group, the church, are perfect.

      But I was using the vernacular definition when people call themselves Christians. Many don’t live up to it as you say. But they’re not Muslims or some other religion.

      And of course, if one lives up to being a fundamentalist true Muslim, then one must believe the calls by Mohammed about resorting to deceit, intolerance,hatred, and violence against those who refuse to bow before their moon god Allah. Those are the teachings of the Qur’an and the Hadith.

      However, I’m not sure what a dead body has to do with the price of rice in China. Christianity, Judaism, and Muslim aren’t racial or ethnic characteristics. As you allude to, faith is a matter of belief. So it’s the views of the living that count, not a dead body.

      The problem we face is that some Muslims are saying the same thing as some here are saying about Christians. If they do evil they’re not true Muslims. So where does that leave us? Disagreeing over nomenclature or bodies piling up in the streets?

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  2. wa2qcj February 10, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Just one word for those that wish to view islam as being “peaceful”, Fruitcakes. These people are not unlike those who would, stand between railroad tracks, with a train bearing down on them at a high rate of speed, proclaim to all, it is safe to be here, there is no train coming.

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    • DrGadget February 10, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      I’ve listened to the Dems and they routinely bring up the Crusades and the Inquisition. Really? You have to go back 500 years to find an organized effort of Christians persecuting others. Yeah, that’s the same.

      Muslims have been at war with someone every year for the last 1000 years. If they can’t find an outsider, they will go to war with other Muslims (Iran-Iraq war). They don’t understand peace. They don’t revere peace. To them peace is only used as a trick to lull the enemy into a false security while they build up forces to attack again.

      Obama praised Islam for all its scientific advances. Did they have any? Other than creative new ways to butcher people, what Islamic inventions have there been in the last 1000 years? None. The West can’t stop from inventing new things. China too – a very inventive people. But nothing memorable from the Land of Allah.

      It’s all kill, kill, kill for the Muslim.

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    • DrGadget February 10, 2017 at 5:22 pm

      And let’s not forget the many levels of lies. Islam is rooted in lies, while Christianity is founded in truth.

      I have heard Muslims say that Islam means “peace”. This is often the first lie you hear from a Muslim. Salaam means peace. It’s a variation of the Hebrew Shalom.

      Islam means subjugation by force. Enslavement to the chains of Allah. That’s what it really entails. Of course they way they see it is if everyone was a Muslim there would finally be real peace. But that’s a lie too as they war with each other. They attack everyone. It’s their way.

      Genesis 16:11-12
      [11] And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
      [12] And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

      The Muslims today are the descendants of Ishmael. This is why.

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    • sumerian1 February 11, 2017 at 9:06 am

      If ‘radical Islamists’ keep up their attitude, threats and violence, in the long run, those DemonRats may be right, but Christians will be MORE violent than radical Islamists, as we paint our streets with THEIR blood and maybe turn Mecca into a parking lot. “God will judge our enemies and we will arrange the meeting!”

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  3. Overshadower February 10, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    What? This sounds like more fake news.

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  4. oldschool7 February 10, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    To deny that there were times in History that the teachings of Christianity were perverted for political and economic gain is to be ignorant of facts. The problem is that the teachings of Christianity had to be perverted to fit the Crusades, the settlement of Africa and S.America, etc. The only perversion of Islamic belief that is practiced in the 21st century world is that of the minority of peaceful Muslims living in the west. Again, to deny Christianity’s violent past is ignorant, but to deny Islam’s violent and aggressive present is both stupid and dangerous.

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    • hopemccloud February 10, 2017 at 2:16 pm

      Well said. Violent Christianity is a perversion of the teachings of Christ. Peaceful Islam is a perversion of the teachings of Muhammad.

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      usafoldsarge February 10, 2017 at 2:57 pm

      Thank you hopemccloud…. Now, oldschool7, in the Old Testament, most violence was done by MY GOD to get someone’s attention. Find ye, if ye can in the New Testament where Christ OR his disciples advocate violence such as decapitation,rape and plunder in the name of Christ or the Father. Like I said in other posts, there are at a minimum of 108 passages in the Koran that read somewhat like this: Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…” How does that grab you? Or Quran (9:14) – “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people”., or Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

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    • ltuser
      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      IMO if anyone wants to deny islam is violent i DARE them to go visit an islamic nation and do one of their pro LGBTQ parades and see how ‘non-violent’ those people would be towards them..

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    • Recce1 February 10, 2017 at 11:59 pm

      usafoldsarge, you and oldschool7 are on the same page.

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    • buzzman February 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      Old school,
      You forget that the reason for the Crusades was to free it from the crusading islamists that violently conquered the holy lands and force islam on them. We responded to their violence with violence.

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  5. jaycee1234 February 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Christianity doesn’t have honor killings and forced and arranged marriages like Islam does. Our own FBI estimates there are 25 honor killings a year in this country. A few months ago a Muslim father here shot his 28 year old daughter in the face because she was going on a cross country trip with her non Muslim friends. He tried to say he was doing it while sleep walking. Another father ran his daughter and her friend over with his car after she was becoming too westernized. He then fled the country. Her friend survived. The Koran has many verses saying to kill the unbeliever if they do not convert. It is not all that peaceful compared to Christianity which has its’faults too.

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      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 3:49 pm

      IMO the only reason tat site would say 25, is that the vast majority of honor killings are just not RECORDED as such, cause they don’t want to offend…

      I would put that # more like 100 a year if not more..

      However, its not just Islam tht does honor killings/arranged marriages. India and Pakistan are both rife with them…

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  6. southernpatriot February 10, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Islam contains a huge percentage of the most ignorant, stupid, and violent people in the world today.

    The Democrat Party over the past months have proven they are the most ignorant, stupid, and violent political party in the USA.

    Based upon the track record of Islam and the Democrat Party–both need to be eliminated, if not obliterated, as least isolated and removed from power and access to anything with which they could hurt others.

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  7. Radman February 10, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Anyone who believes Christianity is more violent in practice than Islam is suffering from severe disassociation from reality. Check out this recent story:

    http://constitution.com/islamic-morality-police-murder-girl-10-stepping-outside/

    Islam’s supremacist ideology, the belief that Sharia must govern society, is the main cause of terrorism in our world, and has been since the seventh century. It may be summarily said that “orthodox” Islamic adherents are being “radicalized” and incited to violence in many Muslim mosques around the world…and also in the United States. Without a smidgeon of doubt, the Obama Administration had numerous influential Muslims “on the inside” and other leftists aided and abetted the BIG LIE that “Islam is a religion of peace.” Actually, it is a very violent dictatorial and political ideology masquerading AS a religion.

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    • jaycee1234 February 10, 2017 at 2:14 pm

      You are exactly right Radman.You hit the nail right on the head I agree 100%.Mohammed was a 7th century warlord who invented Islam to keep the people he conquered enslaved.Allah was a made up god he created from a moon god in their mythology. That’s why Allah is the God and Mohammed is the messenger.

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    genemz February 10, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    Liberals have “helium filled” thoughts…. they think what ever floats through their minds (as they have been fed) … never having their feet on the ground. “Which ever way the wind blows.” They are dandelion fluff, people.

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    • Radman February 10, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      Great imagery in your statement: I visualize Nancy Pelosi!

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    • gimmesometruth February 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm

      So when these progressives come before an open mic, should I envision someone who has ingested multiple helium-filled balloons? Because that is how it sounds to me.

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    • oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      “Dandelion fluff” is the PERFECT metphor for the delusional liberal who floats through life being blown hither and yon by every LOONY LEFT notion that blows on the breeze! Thanks for that EXCELLENT imagery!

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  9. ConservativeNotRepublican February 10, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    Ever notice how liberals will go back a thousand years to point their finger at something in Christianity…while ignoring a violent act perpetrated by Muslims that happened somewhere in the world an hour ago.

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      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      And i honestly feel that many would STILL keep that belief, even as their OWN head is being lopped off by some rabid muslim extremist!

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    • oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 5:06 pm

      THAT is EXACTLY what they are attempting to do here, Conservative–conflating Christian history from CENTURIES ago, with what ISLAM is doing TODAY to “prove” that Christians are just as “violent” as Islam.

      TYPICAL liberal sophistry, and just as valid as all their other LOONY LEFT delusions! This is liberal moral relativism at its BEST.

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    • Recce1 February 11, 2017 at 12:08 am

      Even then the progressives inflate the number of people killed or why the violence took place. For example, the Inquisition was mostly limited to Spain. The Crusades were wars to regain European lands and protect European travelers that sadly got out of control.

      For more information go to http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 1:23 am

      [ This is liberal moral relativism at its BEST.]

      And that is cause liberals can’t fight facts.. So the only thing they can come up with is moral relativism..

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    • columba February 11, 2017 at 3:52 am

      The Inquisition actually extended farther than Spain, being headquartered in Rome (which often rebuked abuses in Inquisitional courts), but even here the myth has taken over historical contexts. For most of the existence of these courts, people given the choice of being tried by the Inquisition or by civil courts chose the Inquisition — yes, even in Spain — where they could usually get more equitable hearings. Again, remember the historical contexts. (Think of the West being blamed for slavery when in fact it was the West that abolished the slavery that had always been prevalent throughout the world.) What seems harsh to us was often lenient for the time. Even the anonymity of accusations was a method of protection for accusers, to keep them from being killed by the accused or his family. Furthermore, most of the Inquisitional reviews and trials wound up in acquittals or warnings.

      Yes, there were outbreaks of abuses. Most of those were condemned by the Pope and the central Inquisitional courts — with more or less success, as always. But the myth of the dastardly Spanish Inquisition is part of the “Black Legend,” the 16th and 17th century English campaign to demonize everything Spanish.

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  10. capricorn1 February 10, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    those who dont know christ as there personal savior will perish.

    not muhamed not allah not the virgin mary , jesus christ!

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  11. mystic
    mystic February 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Wait wait wait…hold up. So the Crusades, the one issue constantly pointed to as Christianity being violent…was in fact a reaction to Moors attacking peaceful pilgrimage to the Holy City of what we now call Israel. When there is nothing left to do but protect one’s own, of course violence will enter the fray.

    Now as we all know, the Middle East is plagued with violence. The only change it has had since the 7th century is wider access to countries they were previously not allowed to travel to. Now, we see rape squads, no go zones for infidels, killings, maiming, sex trafficking, pedophilia and all other means of grotesque violence. To think or state that Islam is as peaceful as Christianity is to be deluded, confused and possibly mental ill.

    ~M

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    • papatriot February 10, 2017 at 2:54 pm

      Mystic,
      Thank you for pointing out that the Crusades were an answer to the brutal Muslim occupation of Christian countries. They were defensive, not offensive actions.

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      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      The Crusades may have started out as being defensive in purpose, but imo they DID morph into offensive slaughtering..

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    • ridgrunner February 10, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      The other thing to consider is that true Christianity was not responsible of the Crusades, it was the Catholic church that was responsible for the actions back then. The Crusaders were trying to liberate Jerusalem from the muslims and note that the Crusades did fail because of lack of funding to keep to keep supplies flowing to the warriors, thus the offensive fighting because the troops were trying to find supplies to keep themselves alive.

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    • Recce1 February 10, 2017 at 6:58 pm

      Mystic, not only were the eight Crusades a reaction to attacks on Christian pilgrimages to the Holy Land, they were also meant to take back what once considered European lands. We shouldn’t forget the Roman Empire finally fell not to Germanic tribes in the 4th century, but actually to Islamic invasion when Constantinople was defeated around 1450. The Crusades were an effort to stop Muslim incursions in Europe for over 200 years from around the 11th century.

      We should realize the Crusades were poorly financed and led. That led to much of the excesses that occurred. They became little more than pillaging mobs robbing and killing indiscriminately.

      Thanks.

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    • Recce1 February 11, 2017 at 12:39 am

      ridgrunner, just what denomination was the true Christian church back then?

      Sadly, once effective control was lost the Crusaders did murder Jews and other Christian in both Europe and in the Mideast. Still, the purpose of the Crusades was to free European lands and protect Christian travelers.

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  12. disqus_LpWtdcrMA7 February 10, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Most of the Dems I chat with are oblivious to the following situations:
    Response: Bilal,

    Thanks for the earlier commentary but here is my initial query in response…. The Anti-Trump-demonstrating feminists you applaud claim “Muslims live in fear of growing discrimination and intolerance because of Trump.” But, let me present you with some simple questions enabling us to create an understanding of their commitment to our Democratic Republic and our way of life. Do these Muslim activists support Sharia Law over our U.S. Constitution and the local laws of the land, do they resent any form of assimilation, do they support a Muslim woman’s right to reject any female member of their family or mosque from denouncing the mutilating ritual of female circumcision, will they denounce honor killings, will they openly condemn and demonstrate against the persecution and sexual-slave trading of Christians and Yezidis by ISIS terrorists who are Islamic-Sharia-Law enforcers here and abroad?

    As liberal protest President Donald Trump’s travel ban, the most persecuted people of the refugee crisis have raised the perfect question.
    Real Refugees Who Fled ISIS Have Perfect Question for Anti-Trump Protesters
    http://madworldnews.com/real-refugees-isis-question-trump/ Feb 9, 2017,

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    • Radman February 10, 2017 at 3:16 pm

      I’ll keep posing this wherever applicable:

      Why do the leaders of this world seem to be totally blind to the reality that faithful Muslims who immigrate to western nations will NOT assimilate into non-Muslim cultures? Pay attention: They CANNOT…and still be faithful Muslims (i.e., followers of the Qur’an, the Hadith and Sharia law).
      This inability to assimilate is a key concept that so many countries are naively ignoring today. The crux of the Islamic culture is totally anathema to our Constitution’s inherent focus on: 1) the separation of powers that are designed to RESTRICT government overreach; and, 2) emphasizing the supremacy of individual rights. (And, to some degree, these basic constitutional provisions are somewhat similar to those in all western democratic countries.)
      For this reason, and because there was a general “separation” of God’s and man’s laws (and the enforcement thereof) in all of their home countries, America was able to accept immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Japan, China, and Viet Nam…and even Israelis living in Europe and Russia. Why? Because the 1st Amendment to our Constitution guaranteed them the free practice of their religion, so long as it did not violate OUR civil law! Essentially, immigrants could assimilate WITHOUT losing their cultural and religious identity. However, Muslims can’t DO that…and still remain faithful to the dictates of Allah and his “prophet!” [Cont.]

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      ltuser February 10, 2017 at 4:07 pm

      [Why do the leaders of this world seem to be totally blind to the reality that faithful Muslims who immigrate to western nations will NOT assimilate into non-Muslim cultures?]

      Cause liberalism has rotted their brains!

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    • oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 5:11 pm

      ituser, any idea that will not fit through the narrow little slots in their leftist LOON ideology mental template are simply IGNORED. Liberal LOONS exist in a delusional world of their OWN creation that has very little to do with “reality.” They “decide” how they think the world “ought” to be, then behave as though that is “realty.”

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  13. BillHH February 10, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Just shows how out of touch with America these idiots in the Democratic Party really are. Chuck Schumer is picking up where Harry the Body Reid left off. This is good though. We voted for a change and they are attempting to stop it. It will blow up in their faces. We have a long way to go. At the minimum of 4 years to stick right up their noses! I for one am looking forward to it. God bless America

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  14. Radman February 10, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    In Muslim countries, the basis of all “civil” law IS religious law. They are one in the same! Violations of religious law are adjudicated in religious courts; and serious penalties are imposed for what we would deem minor infractions (or no infraction at all). Their cultural identity is embodied in Sharia, and their belief system dictates that Islamic law supersedes ALL civil laws. They are taught that no other beliefs are acceptable, that all other cultures are subservient, and that they are authorized to impose, thru coercion or force (Jihad), their culture and their religious tenets on ANYONE that is a non-believer (i.e., infidels like us). Hence, since Muslims can NEVER assimilate unless they totally renounce Islam (an act for which they could be killed by their faithful brethren), we would be very, very foolish to ever let any of them immigrate to America…because of the clear and present danger associated with “civilization jihad.”

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    • Eagle525 February 10, 2017 at 6:25 pm

      Well said Radman… Kudos. Now if we can just get rank and file democrats to understand the incompatibility of islam with Western culture the hate and discontent aimed at President Trump would vaporize. However, we now have generations of liberal (socialist) indoctrinated people living in the USA that are oblivious to reality.

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 1:28 am

      And that obliviousness threatens us all, and imo even if that threat HITS them smack in the face, they still won’t call it for what it is..

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  15. gimmesometruth February 10, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Educational ‘mind control’ will end now that Betsy DeVos is our new Sec. of Education. Schumer and his ‘Rat Pack’ fought like demons to keep DeVos out because they know that the teachers unions funnel mega-bucks into their coffers.

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    • Eagle525 February 11, 2017 at 2:34 am

      Time to do away with the teachers union and the Dept of Education.

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  16. oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    This just proves that at LEAST 7 out of 10 Commucrat liberal LOONS are BLITHERING IDIOTS! They are conflating history of violence in Christianity from CENTURIES ago with the Islamic hatred of today, which is really STUPID and illogical, but then NOBODY ever accused a liberal of being possessed of LOGIC.

    This mindset just proves that liberal LOONS are just as ignorant of the KORAN as they are of the BIBLE.

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  17. Timothy Toroian February 10, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    I always knew the damned Democrats were that stupid! These morons do not understand the dangers of Islam. If they are talking about centuries ago they can go to hell, because that has nothing to do with current ISIS butchery. If they really mess up the security of the country maybe they need to bypassed. If they let a Muslim be party chairman we will know the need of the second amendment. If you start an ignorant argument with me be aware I’ve studied history for more than 52 years and have made a study of the Koran. I mean ignorant, literally. Make certain your facts are CORRECT.

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 1:30 am

      There are times i think their minds are LOST in the past somewhere, cause they consistently dreg UP the past to prove how ‘evil things are NOW.. Such as their incessant harping on slavery..

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  18. randy822 February 10, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Further proof Democrats have no brains.

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  19. truedeel February 10, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    What a bunch clueless idiots. Maybe they should ask themselves who they’d rather meet in a dark alley a Baptist or a member of ISIS? The first might tell you about Jesus being the son of God, and the savior of man, the later will introduce your neck to the sharp side of his saber. They tell you that you must convert or die wake up fools and smell the jihad.

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  20. buzzman February 10, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Why is it that these same brain dead idiots cant name a single example of Christian terrorist Attacks.

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    • oleteabag February 10, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      Maybe because there AREN’T any, buzzman?

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 1:35 am

      Maybe that is because the only ones they CAN come up with would be those Abortion clinic attacks. And even THOSE were not done IN THE NAME of god/Christianity, but were just considered “Linked to Christians” as the perps were devout worshipers..

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  21. Timothy Toroian February 10, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    buzzman, they are like the communist Van Jones, who on T.V. once called Tim McVeigh a “christian” terrorist. He also included the schmucks at Columbine. Funny thing is none of them yelled,”in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost” like Muslims and “Allah Akbar”. Of course, Jones hates this country. I wonder why he doesn’t MOVE.

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  22. Eagle525 February 11, 2017 at 2:37 am

    Poor Betsy has an impossible job. The educational well is poisoned with liberal doctrine. Every grade from K -12 drinks the “Kool Aide”. College education is based on victimization, group identities and socialism laced with a healthy dose of political correctness. College students are no longer students, they are mind numbed acolytes spewing liberal hate and discontent doctrines and violence every time they encounter opposition. Politicians and teachers have created a liberal political party army in the guise of college students. We now see that army at war with a rational and traditional USA.

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      ltuser February 11, 2017 at 11:06 pm

      IMO if the wants to try and do the standard tactic to oppose anything she wants ti implement, STRIKE, then she should do as Thatcher did to break the unions in the 80s. FIRE THE LOT OF THEM!

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  23. Jota_ February 11, 2017 at 6:42 am

    Am I to believe they found three Democrats who are not stupid?

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  24. luxetveritas1
    luxetveritas1 February 11, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Why does Everyone forget that Christianity is originally an eastern religion that spread to the west? Just because Muslims have taken over by force doesn’t mean they own the eastern religions. The only reason Christianity is thriving in the west is because of the SECULAR wars that have been dogfight over resources. And if one more person says Christians forced conversion I’d like you to read history from the point of view of the defending countries like Spain as an example.

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  25. engine21 February 11, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    Who cares what Samuel P. Huntington has to say? The world speaks English rather than Chinese or Indian or Arabic or Swahili because of the West’s superior armies; not because of our economics, politics, culture and faith, all of which centers on humanism and promotes human potential. Right.

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