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Atheists Force Woman to Remove Cross Honoring Dead Son

By Bobby Eberle

road_crossThere has been so much news lately of schools, organizations, and individuals being harassed by atheist groups, but this one sets a new low. In this case, a grieving mother erected a roadside cross where her son was killed, and now an atheist group has forced her to take it down. What is wrong with these people???

As reported by The Press Enterprise, a roadside cross was erected for 19-year-old Anthony Vincent Devaney who in May 2012 was killed crossing a street.

A complaint prompted the American Humanist Association in Washington, D.C., to intervene, contending the placement of the symbol in the city right-of-way violated the separation of church and state.

The association’s demand letter dated March 4 came a week after a U.S. District Court judge ruled in favor of the group’s legal challenge to Lake Elsinore’s proposed veterans memorial. That monument would have depicted a soldier kneeling in front of crosses and Stars of David.

Representatives of the association said they were prepared to challenge the city again if it didn’t ensure the Devaneys’ cross came down. The organization, which represents atheists and other nonreligious individuals, released a statement Thursday expressing gratitude the cross was being removed.

This is absolutely outrageous! We see these types of crosses all the time. It is a small remembrance of a loved one and a constant reminder that life is precious. What is the problem here?

As NBC 4 in Southern California reports, the mother, Ann Marie Devaney, feels like she is "losing her son again."

Devaney's removal of her cross did not go unnoticed, however. As Fox News reports, when Devaney took down her cross, more appeared.

grieving California mom who, under pressure from an atheist group, went to the site where her son was killed to remove a memorial cross was met at the scene by a throng of supporters who planted crosses of their own.

"They said they have to take that one down," Doug Johnson, a Riverside resident who traveled to the site with his daughter and six home-made crosses, told The Riverside Press-Enterprise. "But they didn't say anything about putting another one up."

What's even more frustrating is all of this was spurred on by the complaint of ONE resident. That's when the atheist group pounced. What happened to the rights of the majority? We see it all the time... schools banning Christmas so as not to offend one person. Instead, they offend MOST of the people!

A thousand crosses should appear at that intersection. And as they are taken down, even more should appear. This country has completely lost its common sense, and it will continue to do so until people fight back.

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  1. mjz4043Comment by mjz4043
    March 8, 2014 @ 8:58 am

    How sad. A mother wants to memorialize her son and there are those heartless, soulless individuals who just have to jump in and hurt her even more.

    Karma is a *****…they will get theirs.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      March 8, 2014 @ 12:17 pm

      And these atheist groups continue to use an unfounded argument—separation of church and state. Christianity IS NOT a state religion, therefore it is not interfering with the separation of the two in any way whatsoever. The judges who preside over these cases should know that.

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    • lokiswifeComment by lokiswife
      March 8, 2014 @ 2:07 pm

      American Humanist Association, their motto is “Good without a God”. “advocating progressive values and equality for humanists, atheists and free thinkers.”

      http://americanhumanist.org/what_we_do/media_outreach/Press_Kit
      (202)238-9088 or (800)837-3792. Let them know what you think about their organization and their actions.

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    • marj0120Comment by marj0120
      March 8, 2014 @ 9:00 pm

      Want to know what’s wrong with these acts of atheist terrorism? It’s us, we allow them to get do this and get away with it.

      Notice they don’t complain about Islamic customs that reflect their belief in Allah and Mohammed, the wearing of berkas, head wraps, etc. It’s all about Political Correctness which is of course another way of telling the majority that they must shut-up, suppress their honest and individual points of view.

      Karma, my butt, they should experiance instant karma! If you don’t like looking at a symbol of someone’s religion, then turn your fricking head and don’t look at it!

      We are made to deal with your neurotic belly aching about anything you think may have spiritual meaning to someone else, how about you show a little tolerance yourselves?

      You have twisted and lied about our 1st. Amendment right to express our religion, are you willing to die for what you (don’t) believe in? I’m very willing to die for my beliefs.

      You are cowardly scum, the stuff I wipe off my shoes after leaving the dog park! I’m sick of your rule by a loud mouth minority. Why, why? Do we put up with this **** is beyond me!

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    • joliComment by joli
      March 9, 2014 @ 12:48 pm

      There should have been hundreds of more crosses! WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION AND PREFER CHRISTIANITY OVER ALL OTHER RELIGIONS! Especially over Satan’s Religion of islam!

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      March 9, 2014 @ 3:35 pm

      Soulless??? They may not think they have souls, but they will find out just how mistaken they are.

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  2. p3driverComment by p3driver
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:00 am

    Good job, Doug Johnson, take that one down since IT was the subject of the lawsuit, put other ones up in its place.

    A big finger to the American Humanist (misnomer) AZZn (emphasis on the caps.)

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  3. spidaComment by spida
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:08 am

    Actually, the intellectual dishonesty of the atheists is unlimited. How any person who asserts there is no God can be offended by someone attempting to honor a person who doesn’t exist is beyond logic. If ever there was a “no harm no foul” issue this is it. NO one is forcing the atheists to believe. And there can’t be any govt support of religion if the govt simply takes absolutely no action.

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    • snattlerakeComment by snattlerake
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:28 am

      I need to be enlightened. What law are the courts ruling on the constitutionality of here?

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    • sullyofTexasComment by sullyofTexas
      March 13, 2014 @ 11:14 am

      Very well said Spida

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    • beckahComment by beckah
      March 24, 2014 @ 10:10 am

      To snattlerake, the courts are ruling that because it’s on government land, they cannot favor one religion over another, and that anything that has to do with the government cannot be influenced by religion.

      As to the intellectual dishonesty of atheists, all I can figure is that they were not breast fed while growing up and now will do anything and everything for attention. They are all a selfish bunch of brats who want nothing more than to make people miserable, just like they are. Unfortunately the courts are riddled with just these types too!

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  4. janeybloopComment by janeybloop
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:08 am

    Why is the cross offensive to Atheists?

    1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

    Blessings to you = )

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    • habaladyComment by habalady
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:05 am

      Because the devil only likes his own symbols and not those of God.

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    • libblasterComment by libblaster
      March 8, 2014 @ 12:06 pm

      This, along with John 3:16, are two of my favorite Bible verses. I, like you, think of 1 Corinthians 1:18 whenever I hear of the ACLU or other groups insistent on destroying Christianity or any God-fearing religion. May God have mercy on their souls.

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      March 8, 2014 @ 4:07 pm

      Do atheist parents ever erect small monuments where their sins or daughters died along the highway?
      If so, they should be made to remove one of those monuments for every cross they want taken down.

      See how they like having their sorrow marginalized …

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  5. abbeyComment by abbey
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:13 am

    Atheists, like demons and Satan, are offended by the sight of a cross. Like demons and Satan, Atheists need to be exorcised. They are evil….and hate ‘good’.

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    • caseydimartini33Comment by caseydimartini33
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:17 am

      “Atheists, like demons and Satan, are offended by the sight of a cross. Like demons and Satan, Atheists need to be exorcised. They are evil….and hate ‘good’.” This statement you wrote is beyond crazy and is not only disrespectful to atheists but gives a bad image of all christians. You sound crazy because you are relating a group of HUMAN BEINGS to demons and satan. You sound like a terrorist.

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    • nightingale23ksComment by nightingale23ks
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:05 am

      I am an Atheist but I don’t agree with the Atheist group in this story. But, the comments I am reading on this story is part of the reason there is so much dissection. Atheists only assert one claim and that is that there is no evidence that supports the existence of a God. Outside of that, we are no less lawful or moral than any other citizens. We are not evil or in league with the devil, who we do not believe in either, and the hostility I see being expressed here only wedges the gap between us as human beings

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    • nightingale23ksComment by nightingale23ks
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:09 am

      Dissent. Not dissect

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    • pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
      March 8, 2014 @ 4:19 pm

      If what you say is true, nightingale23ks, and I have no reason to believe it is not, then why are atheists so hell-bent (no pun intended) on eradicating Christian symbols? How is this poor mother’s memorial to her son offending you if you don’t think God even exists? I don’t believe in fairies but I sure don’t care if people decorate with fairies or play with fairy dolls or read fairy stories to their children. If someone chose to honor their loved one with a statue of a fairy I wouldn’t insist it be removed because I don’t believe in fairies. There is much more going on here than just, “I believe and you don’t.” When folks would stoop so low as to insist a grieving mother remove a symbol of her faith and love for her child, then those people obviously have an axe to grind. If you choose to be an atheist, that is your right and I don’t hate you because of it, neither would I deliberately do anything to cause you pain or grief (my religion forbids that.) I don’t agree with all of the statements made on this page, and when people who call themselves Christians make hateful statements they are just playing into the hands of those who criticize them. On the other hand, can’t you see how people would be angry with a group that would force such a cruel act, and cause a heartbroken mother even more grief?

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      March 8, 2014 @ 4:55 pm

      >> I don’t believe in fairies but I sure don’t care if people decorate with fairies or play with fairy dolls or read fairy stories to their children <<

      This may seem to be a flippant remark, but it actually goes to the core of the problem. Let's start a movement telling the government we find all references to fairies, gnomes, etc. offensive, and it should force anyone who has such a symbol on their lawn to remove it, and now. I don't believe in God, so you can't put up a cross or the Ten Commandments without offending me. I don't believe in faries, so you can't have one as a lawn ornament without offending me. What's the difference?

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    • freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:15 pm

      casey and nightingale,
      Any Atheists who may be reading this, Children below the age of accountability, not knowing truly right from wrong, upon death, automatically are instantly transported to Heaven. Your own lost Children are as fortunate, and are also taken to sit with Jesus Christ, and the Father. They are judged only as Children, not for the beliefs of their Families.

      You too can be saved, all you have to do is with a pure Heart call upon the Father, admit you are a sinner, confess your sins, and believe with all your Heart and Mind that he sent his Son Jesus to die on the cross as a personal living sacrifice for all sinners, that they can be saved.
      No sin is too great to be forgiven, when asked, only the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

      I beg you to turn your Hearts, and Lives, before there is no opportunity left to you, I honestly care. I, as a Christian, as with Jesus Christ, want all to be saved from the absolute horrors of Hell, but we are all given our own wills, and choices. Once you die in sin, without repentance, it is too late. Life is a short journey, and Life does have a expiration date, it just isn’t stamped on the package. Each second, death is a possibility for any or all of us. Search your Heart, are you really happy with your life, are you content in your beliefs, are you struggling in life, with Family and or Friends?. Do you feel that something is missing, or just not quite right?. God is the answer, and the peace. Accept his unselfish gift

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      March 9, 2014 @ 9:10 am

      thedove-

      The difference is that the “faerie movement” hasn’t stuck its nose into the political arena yet. Once it does and once it’s recognized as a religion, the rules change and there will be ‘atheists against fairies’ groups springing up (there are multiple spellings of fairy as there are multiple types of fairies);-)

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    • pagaelComment by pagael
      March 9, 2014 @ 9:55 am

      In Reply to caseydimartini33:
      Abbey was closely using words uttered by Jesus Christ.
      John 8:42–44
      42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
      43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
      44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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    • cxComment by genesal
      March 10, 2014 @ 10:14 am

      Sorry dude you cannot have Morality without God. If you think you have Morality it’s because you are ‘copycatting’ it from Religious belief. In other words without God athiest wouldn’t even know what MORALITY is, since it is one God’s principles from the Beginning.

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  6. mudguyComment by mudguy
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:23 am

    When will people get back bone and really fight this garbage.
    There is NO where in the Constitution will anybody find the words”SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE” Only in a letter that Jefferson wrote which he wrote that there should be a wall of separation between church and state. He wrote in response to a suggestion that we needed a a state church. One more thing that the SCOTUS has gotten wrong. I guess it is ok to have the Ten Commandments engraved one of the doors of in the Supreme Court Building.

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    • iu3kidsComment by iu3kids
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:25 am

      The “separation of church & state” was originally set up so there wouldn’t be a “Church of England” started, where everyone would have to belong. It’s really sad that things have come down to this.

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    • lunchladyComment by lunchlady
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:48 pm

      Comment by mud guy: “There is NO where in the Constitution will anybody find the words”SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE” ”

      Comment by iu3kids: “The “separation of church & state” was originally set up so there wouldn’t be a “Church of England” started, where everyone would have to belong”

      Yeah, people seem to get so caught up with “separation of church and state,” even misquoting it as “freedom FROM religion” which IS NOT in the Constitution. And as someone mentioned earlier, “judges should know better” what REALLY IS in the Constitution, “CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH,”

      I’m pretty sure that making this mom take down her cross is “prohibiting her free expression thereof” and is “abridging her freedom of speech.” Judges should know better. After all, it is supposed to be the courts’ JOB to interpret the Constitution, and measure each and every potential law against it.

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  7. darralComment by darral
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:25 am

    The plan truth is atheist’s Don’t want to believe in the cross; They fear its Truth; causes doubts in their own minds; They don’t want to see it or hear it or recognize the cross at any time; IT might be TRUTH;

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  8. hardheadedComment by hardheaded
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:35 am

    Re`li´gion Pronunciation: rė`lĭj´ŭn

    n. 1. The outward act or form by which men indicate their recognition of the existence of a god or of gods having power over their destiny, to whom obedience, service, and honor are due; the feeling or expression of human love, fear, or awe of some superhuman and overruling power, whether by profession of belief, by observance of rites and ceremonies, or by the conduct of life; a system of faith and worship; a manifestation of piety; as, ethical religions; monotheistic religions; natural religion; revealed religion; the religion of the Jews; the religion of idol worshipers.
    An orderly life so far as others are able to observe us is now and then produced by prudential motives or by dint of habit; but without seriousness there can be no religious principle at the bottom, no course of conduct from religious motives; in a word, there can be no religion.

    This being said I’m tried of the Atheists cramming there Religion drown are thoughts.

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    • nightingale23ksComment by nightingale23ks
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:23 am

      Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.

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    • gtimberlakeComment by gtimberlake
      March 8, 2014 @ 7:00 pm

      “Down our throats?”… ‘Autocorrect’ … is an atheist? … A ‘helper’? A demon? Inflexible ? Needs exorcised?  Predisposed to holding error as correct? Type A? Obsessive-compulsive? Inflexible perfectionist? Rigid?  All the above? We love the atheist. We just hate their ‘disease’? 

       Disease: extreme discomfort, lack of ease,  a condition that prevents the body or mind from working normally, … a problem that a person, group, organization, society has and cannot stop, … trouble, a harmful development. … The opposite of health , wellness. …

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    • gtimberlakeComment by gtimberlake
      March 8, 2014 @ 7:03 pm

      Atheists cannot believe in one God who was and is forever and created something where there seemed to be nothing. … Nor can they believe any of the history in the Old or New Testament of the Bible or of Jesus, the son of God. Nor can they believe that millions of us have an actual living relationship with this God and this Jesus. And talk to Him daily. And He speaks to us in ways we can understand.  Nor that Jesus gave his life on a cross to pay the price for our sin because of His great love for us. So they say. … In fact, it infuriates some just to consider it.

      However they do expect us to believe that …  ’nothing’ … ‘exploded’ … with a big bang and became ‘something’ … or … that something was already here forever and suddenly began to develop on its own and organized itself perfectly. …All on its own…. The ‘primordial soup’ came from where?  Nothing’s Imagination? They suggest order came from disorder when the laws of physics state just the opposite. They expect the smallest genome of the smallest bacteria or protozoa which consists of an incredibly complex set of perfectly arranged chemicals which has to be correctly duplicated many times … to have ‘created’ itself. And that is just the genetic material. All  the structures that are vital for life and reproduction to exist … had to self-organize as well. Eventually this impossible ‘miracle’ had to re-create itself in different arrangements becoming more and more numerous and complex. Very complex multi-organ beings ‘self-created’. They ‘self-selected’ to become ever different and more complex animals. Yeah, right! Logical? Observable? 

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  9. mdd12Comment by mdd12
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:36 am

    Its about time we collectively begin to fight these groups with their own weapon and that is the courts.

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    • daveevad1Comment by daveevad1
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:33 am

      Until we get the Obama appointments impeached and removed from the courts we’re going to continue to see such unconstitutional travesties as this on a daily basis.

      It’s time for conservative Senators to grow some cojones and refuse to allow these appointments to advance in the Senate. Comrade Reid hasn’t changed the rules that allow Senators to block appointments – yet, anyway.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      March 8, 2014 @ 4:44 pm

      >> Senators to grow some cojones and refuse to allow these appointments to advance in the Senate. <<

      You sound as if the Senate has some authority over appointments. Are you not aware this power is a secret? Shhh! You'll wake the Congressional jellyfish.

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  10. loranComment by loran
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:37 am

    It sure looks as if the atheists have seen what the LGBT community has done and succeeded in so now they are successfully doing the same thing. We can thank the ACLU and liberal activist judges for these types of in your face acts. What both these groups do not realize or understand is that we will take only so much and then “BOOM, BOOM, OUT GO THE LIGHTS”!
    The push back will come and if it gets nasty, so be it.

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    • caseydimartini33Comment by caseydimartini33
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:23 am

      “BOOM, BOOM, OUT GO THE LIGHTS”! sounds like you would take violent action which JESUS would never condone. Did jesus ever threaten anyone, no he didnt. If you were a real christians you would try to lead by example and with the use of love

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    • loranComment by loran
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:39 am

      To caseydimartini33, Why do people of your persuasion continue to misrepresent God and His son in your arguments. It is clear in Gods Word that he considers homosexuality as a sin, it must be a rather large one too, for Him to destroy 2 whole cities over it. You are correct though about my thoughts about violence. I happen to believe that it may come to that. And maybe you should re-read certain portions of the Bible as concerns Jesus and his anger.

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      March 9, 2014 @ 3:37 pm

      caseydimartini33… Did you not read about how angry Jesus was when He threw the moneychangers out of the temple???

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  11. jurooComment by juroo
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:37 am

    Every once in a while I hit the History channel when they are talking about aliens from outer space. It dawned on me that Atheists claim that they believe in science and that Christians don’t. Some claim that we believe in an invisible fairy. As I watch some of this I realize that they do believe in invisible little green people. Can we name their religion Atheistic Alienism?

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    • caseydimartini33Comment by caseydimartini33
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:34 am

      you do know that the history channel has nothing to do with atheists. This is by far the most irrelevant statement i have ever heard. Not only is it as offensive as calling god and invisible fairy, this statement makes no sense and shows how ignorant people could be. Hopefully you were trying to make people laugh and not posting a comment you thought was valid. Atheists have nothing to do with aliens at all.

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    • danwebster355Comment by danwebster355
      March 8, 2014 @ 8:26 pm

      LOl! That’s news to me Juroo. I didn’t know I believe in invisible green people. Why discriminate. Why not red, blue and purple people.

      It’s so silly I don’t know how to respond.

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  12. malingComment by maling
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:39 am

    It’s so sad. We no longer live in a free society. The bullies are winning.

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    • nightingale23ksComment by nightingale23ks
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:29 am

      Bullies? Christians have been the bullies for centuries. Asking for equality doesn’t make anyone a bully. Bullies are the ones who cry fowl when their victims fight back.

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    • coolinoutComment by coolinout
      March 8, 2014 @ 4:00 pm

      Equality has nothing to do with it. For such a small band of non believers to push their will is not equality it is an attempt to position yourselves over us. That will not happen. If you want equality then you have barren ground and we’ll have our crosses, star of david, or other symbol and just let it go.
      The nation was founded on Christian Beliefs and the Capitol building had 8 different church services in it every Sunday, when people were sane. All beliefs in a public building, it was not a state religion so it is fine. Don’t blow a fuse, just leave his poor woman alone.

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  13. whodunitComment by whodunit
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:44 am

    Let’s call this group what they really are — anti-Christian. Because that’s the only religion that offends them and the only religion they seem to go after. Much like the gay activists, who are really just a group of anti-Christians.

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    • caseydimartini33Comment by caseydimartini33
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:28 am

      to say gay activists are just anti-christians is a close minded and disrespectful to the millions of gay christians out there. This is an example of why people are running away from the republican party. Its the hate that continues the losing cycle.

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    • blemeComment by bleme
      March 18, 2014 @ 12:29 pm

      I think that 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is pretty clear: Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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  14. hardheadedComment by hardheaded
    March 8, 2014 @ 9:58 am

    I thought there is a Law on the books that was to stop BULLIES.

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  15. lynComment by lyn
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:03 am

    Where in our Constitution does it say “Separation of church and state”?

    Hey-low information dudes- IT DOES NOT EXIST ANYWHERE IN OUR LAWS OR FOUNDING DOCUMENTS!

    #1 Amendment-”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or PROHIBITING the FREE EXPRESSION thereof…”

    I rest my case!

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:36 am

      “#1 Amendment-”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or PROHIBITING the FREE EXPRESSION thereof…” lyn

      Yes

      The state did not force someone to put it up, but the state is acting in violation of the Constitution in forcing someone to take it down

      And if the atheist take it down they should be charged with a hate crime, to attack a symbol, which is nothing if one does not know what it represents, is an attack upon the person’s belief, an attack upon the person

      If no object of any kind can be placed there for public safety reasons, it would need to be removed, and so would all others but for the state to force someone to remove it just because it is a person’s religious symbol is the state PROHIBITING the FREE EXPRESSION, and it does not matter if one or a million demand it, it is the state’s actions which are at issue

      Take it down, put up a hundred more

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    • ggfilthyComment by ggfilthy
      March 8, 2014 @ 6:53 pm

      All PERFECT points Jota_… What people should do in cases like this, is NOT take down anything just let the take you to court…don’t spend any money defending yourself just sit there and wait for the judgment. When Law enforcement takes it down, video them doing it and let it fly on the net. Then the very next day someone else put it up, to start the whole process over. The key is don’t spend any money…just let them.

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  16. shearwaterComment by shearwater
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:08 am

    The American Humanist Association is not being very
    “inclusive.” The left hail “diversity” and then repress select groups they don’t like. Christianity is at the very root of our country and that is what made this country great . . . an acknowledgement of God and his scriptures as the foundation for our country. Separation of church and state is nowhere to be found in our historical documents and atheist have built their case on false premises. In fact our first President, George Washington, prayed in public for our country and urged others to do the same, all the while maintaining the free moral agency of individuals and groups that were not so inclined. I say that was inclusive. Go figure!

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  17. americanman2012Comment by americanman2012
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:10 am

    Atheists are a religion to themselves. They organize, and are able to fund lawyers to impose their wishes on the government, to force the government to make Atheism the religion of the people is against the law of separation of church and state, whereas with separation any religion can profess it’s faith and everyone needs tolerance of each to be able to have the religious freedom.
    We Christians need to become more involved in protecting our freedoms, as do the Muslims.
    We must stand ,even in a statement of force, and defiance of intimidation of political incorrectness.

    Again in summation , a world without any religious outward affirmation is the governments establishment of the religion of no God, called Atheism , as the states religion is illegal.
    These Atheists believe that there is no God, and that is there faith.

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    • NymRodComment by NymRod
      March 8, 2014 @ 10:44 am

      There is no “law of separation of church and state” anywhere.

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  18. figsComment by figs
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:19 am

    This surely is a new low. I’m afraid they would have a battle on their hands with me, as I don’t give up. A friend put one where my son got hit by a car on his motorcycle. But, I want people to remember that Obama and his Administration, including George Soros I’m sure, would love to see a riot so they can declare marshal law and then they’ll have an excuse to come after our guns. And no one , but no one forget…God is watching attitudes and actions of everyone on this planet right now and is giving everyone a chance to change and go back to him. The time is growing short and there will not be a chance to change until the 1000year period. But there will be evil like we have never seen hit everyone that moncks God.

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  19. roosterComment by rooster
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:21 am

    The American Humanist Association and groups like them are simply hate groups. They’ve found shelter under socialist judges that have reinvented what the Constitution says, to mean what it does not say. When any government official prevents the free expression of the people, especially regarding religion, they are the ones violating our natural rights, as well as the Constitution. These hate groups have found an illegal way to bully the majority. As long as Christians remain complacent, we will continue to lose ground in the public forum.

    However, we were told that because they first hated Jesus Christ, they would hate us. Since they live in the vacuum of their own minds, they must make everyone else as miserable as they are; regardless of their rhetoric, that is the bottom line. They feel threatened by faith in God, that is, God who cannot be perceived by sinful flesh.

    A private faith that does not act in the face of oppression is no faith at all. —William Wilberforce, 1759–1833

    Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. —Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1906–1945

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  20. desertfox1015Comment by desertfox1015
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:22 am

    Folks, I would like these idiots to show me where in the Constitution does it say that we must have separation of church and state. I far as I can find there is no such clause.

    Listed below is the actual amendment:

    Amendment I.
    Congress shall make NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION; abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievance.

    I capitalized the phrase no law to religion to show how I feel about some people getting the amendment wrong and as far as I’m concerned those atheist are hypocrites because if they were ever to go to combat and was shot, god forbid, the first thing out of their mouth would be “Oh, my God!”. I’ve seen it time after time.

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  21. Patriot68Comment by Patriot68
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:22 am

    Not only was the judge wrong because no law was passed establishing a religion but the cross was placed by the woman not the city. Stupidity reigns!

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  22. daryl67Comment by daryl67
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:25 am

    Everyone that drives by should stop and put up a cross

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    • Cape ConservativeComment by Cape Conservative
      March 8, 2014 @ 1:49 pm

      I hope the number of crosses grows exponentially with each passing day! I like the gentleman’s idea – take down one, replace it with six!

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  23. OldNorthStateComment by OldNorthState
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:31 am

    …but somebody facing Mecca on a prayer rug at the same site would instantly “deserve” a mosque to be built around them, right then and there – with nary a word from the “atheists” but praise.

    I tire of the double standard.

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  24. msjb12Comment by msjb12
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:33 am

    When are we going to start ignoring this kind of simple stuff these fools come up with this kind of stuff is what is wrong with this country no body has any common sense anymore this is the same problem our government has too many simple stupid people they think like 7or8 year old kids. I guess we can call them TURKEYS

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  25. mmarse1Comment by mmarse1
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:34 am

    Our country has been going down hill for sometime now. More to the point, doesn’t the constitution read: “freedom OF religion” , not
    freedom from religion ? Why can’t the Atheist’s group respect this constitutional right? Or adopt a universal symbol representing their views and display it along side of crosses, etc. This should satisfy most believers and non believers alike.

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    • lunchladyComment by lunchlady
      March 9, 2014 @ 3:47 am

      Actually, it doesn’t even say that. Its says “shall make NO LAW PROHIBITING … the FREE EXPRESSION THEREOF.” Check it out:

      “Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

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  26. j7537Comment by j7537
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:37 am

    Only the devil fears the cross. The athiests are doing the devils work.

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  27. genedoubleacemanComment by genedoubleaceman
    March 8, 2014 @ 10:53 am

    I am NOT an athiest, and I never agree with any athiest group. However, there is another reason these makeshift crosses and memorials along the roadside shoulder should never be allowed.

    There are usually sign and blight ordinances in most towns and cities which prohibit these types of things in the “city right of way”, the area between the curb or edge of the road surface and the actual property line.

    These laws are there to avoid everyone putting up whatever they wish on public property, thus becomming eyesores as well as distractions for drivers.

    If a person gets permission from the actual property owner he or she could be allowed legally to post a sign possibly on that person’s property. Usually however, that is bypassed when these signs are erected on the city, county or state property on which they are placed, within the “right of way”, which is actually part of the legal roadway. I have seen many illegal memorials wired or taped to roadsign posts such as STOP or SPEED LIMIT signs.

    I have always been against this ignoring or breaking of laws to put up memorials which seem to last into perpetuity. I see no reason to allow the erection of memorials in violation of safety, zoning and property laws.

    The proper place for memorials is where a person is buried, usually in a cemetary.

    It is not my intention to seem heartless to other Christians. I am only pointing out actual lawful reasoning why they should not be allowed on public property, any more than other signs.

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    • Mac BoyComment by macboy
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:52 am

      Did you know, if you turn off your ObamaPhone, and quit drinking
      the Kool-Aid, your headaches will stop – and the “voices” will go away?

      Most people will place a cross, teddy bear, etc for a short time … then remove it after a short time of mourning ……. The only “BLIGHT” is from Narrowminded PIGS..

      A.C.L.U. = Ambulance Chasing Lawyers Union ………… SIT ON IT!

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    • americanman2012Comment by americanman2012
      March 8, 2014 @ 6:04 pm

      America was made great by a society of non conformists, but now it has been taken over by political correctness, and conformity of the utopian state agenda.
      Public property is not owned by the state,or the federal government, but by the people each having a share.
      If it was up to some liberal utopian delusionalists , all the world would be mowed grass, no more than 1 inch high, with no flowers, or vegetable gardens.
      What we need is the removal of all the laws , and leave the public property what it is public, of the people for the people.

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    • lunchladyComment by lunchlady
      March 9, 2014 @ 4:27 am

      Right, good luck with that. Many times these memorials are spontaneously posted by people coming to pay their respects, and not by the families at all. Sometimes, notes are left for the family. Sometimes candlelight vigils are held there, and not started by the family either. People hear about the story, and are touched and compelled go and express sympathy.

      Arre these memorials bothersome to atheists, the ones without crosses? Nope. And all the signs posted all over sign posts for garage sales, yard sales, neighborhood BBQs, etc? Nope. Do the atheists sue over every political sign that gets stuck on every fence and light post? Nope.

      This has nothing to do with “urban blight,” or “driver distraction,” its only ever about the crosses and about their one and only goal of cleansing our country of every sign and symbol of God, so they never have to see or hear of Him in their day to day lives.

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  28. commonsenseneededComment by commonsenseneeded
    March 8, 2014 @ 11:04 am

    If this woman has to take her cross down, then every roadside cross in remembrance of a victim of a fatal accident, needs to be taken down. While I understand the mothers’ and friends’ attempt to remember their deceased, I don’t think these memorials have a place on the roadside, where they can be seen as a distraction and sometimes even liter. I have nothing against the cross as a religious symbol, I just think there is a proper place for memorials, and it is not alongside a public road or highway. Some of those memorials have been in place for over 10 years, some longer, and while they are maintained, there simply is little reason to keep them there, where they could possibly cause another accident.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:10 am

      Then all advertisements of anykind should be removed.You have lost your common sense.

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    • genedoubleacemanComment by genedoubleaceman
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:13 am

      Them’s my sediments eggsactly! Take them all down, they are placed in violation of laws, nothing to do with religion or crosses, or athiests.

      Didn’t this woman have her son buried in a cemetary where she can grieve in private? Why do all these people think they must make ALL passing by share their grief. They do not have that right.

      You can notice from this cross in question, the wording on one side. The dead cannot read it, it is only meant for live people to read, thus it is a sign, and improperly placed on public property. It has been the fault of city workers to allow these to perpetuate, out of fear of upsetting the erectors, instead of explaining the facts to them, or enforcing zoning or property laws.

      I do hope this woman gets help with her grief, but it should not be at the expense of everyone else.

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    • genedoubleacemanComment by genedoubleaceman
      March 8, 2014 @ 11:18 am

      MUDGUY, Common sense is to follow laws. Road signs are there for a reason; speed, stop, yield, etc. Advertising signs are allowed by laws and ordinances. Memorial signs and other ‘things’, flowers, crosses, etc. are not meant for public roadways, they are meant to be placed at cemetaries.

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    • lunchladyComment by lunchlady
      March 13, 2014 @ 1:58 am

      Many times these memorials are spontaneously posted by people coming to pay their respects, and not by the families at all. Sometimes, notes are left for the family. I mean, sometimes a teenager dies and his or her schoolmates come by and leave notes and flowers for the family, or they gather there together to comfort one another, to hold candlelight vigils, even to protest and pressure the city to install a stop light or something.

      And how many signs are posted all over sign posts and fences for garage sales, yard sales, neighborhood BBQs, children’s birthday parties, etc? None of these are “allowed by laws and ordinances,” they are scraps of cardboard, written with marker, sometimes even on paper plates. And not to mention all the political signs that get stuck on every fence and light post. Half of them, or more, are posted in ways and places where they are not allowed. And some left up after the election is over.

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  29. dogshawredComment by dogshawred
    March 8, 2014 @ 11:16 am

    Is it not unconstitutional for a none believer of any religion to interfere with the rights of another to believe in their religion
    ~
    Yet they scream that the believers practice of their religion is unconstitutional and infringes on their rights as a non-believer to coexist in society.
    ~
    The last time I checked all beings have individual choice as a member of nature/natural selection. With that in mind they have a choice to not participate in anything they feel is not for them as they have the ability to not travel any road that may have something on it that offends them, billboards, business, medical clinic, churches, shrines, that is their free choice.
    ~
    Atheist won’t attack religion and churches but will attack individuals who can’t financially fight back and are just being bullied by a much larger organization.

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  30. snattlerakeComment by snattlerake
    March 8, 2014 @ 11:19 am

    They disprove their own arguments. If they are atheists, they cannot become ill from something that does not exist. If they are becoming ill because of the cross at ground zero, they are not atheists, but Heaven help them, because they are not Christians either.

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  31. RLM357Comment by RLM357
    March 8, 2014 @ 11:34 am

    Really these creeps (Atheists that sued) complained about a depiction of a Kneeling Soldier at a Cross and Star of David , grieving for a fallen comrade. WHY? They don’t kneel for any symbol or Diety. Why then do they get paid for Holidays like Christmas and Chonuka? They don’t protest that do they? Let them be short on their paychecks and listen to them holler. We were founded on the pricipal of Free Worship of our faiths. What do they kow-tow to the Hammer and Cyckle? E-pluribus Unum. In One many. The Majority Rules. Atheists are NOT the MAJORITY ! ~Rick Magee, “MOLON LABE”

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  32. freebirdComment by freebird
    March 8, 2014 @ 11:54 am

    I don’t know if I agree with private citizens putting up roadside memorials or any other kind of signs, symbols etc. However, you drive down an road with any kind of agricultural activity and darned if you don’t run into dozens of signs for fresh fruits, veggies, etc. All such are a distraction, but then a much greater distraction are the electronic billboards in HD flashing their ads.
    These atheists are similar to the radical activist gay rights groups. It isn’t enough to just practice their thing, they have to attack you if you don’t agree with them. This is where PC runs amuck.

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  33. libblasterComment by libblaster
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:10 pm

    What strikes me as poignant is the fact that these atheists had to go to court. They were probably afraid to just pull the cross out of the ground for fear of being struck by lightning.

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  34. BarbComment by usa4ever
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:16 pm

    Atheists are a strange breed. On the one hand they don’t believe in God but yet, on the other hand, they shiver and shake at inanimate objects that appear to represent him. Hm…

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  35. 1936benzComment by 1936benz
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:21 pm

    Even Hitler knew better than to attempt to remove Christian symbols (and the practice of religion) from public purview and government institutions. This country has gone completely crazy.

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  36. mousey10Comment by mousey10
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:27 pm

    A lot of these idiots are simply hoping to be on television television!

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  37. Oldsailor65Comment by Oldsailor65
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:30 pm

    I’m not a religious person but I’m beginning to believe that we need to start eliminating atheist to keep them from breeding. They have no common sense. The stupidity of atheist and complete lack of common sense is making me more and more become a believer of Christianity.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      March 8, 2014 @ 1:45 pm

      You are right atheist show that they know NOTHING about our history and the principals our country was founded on.

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  38. skepticComment by skeptic
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:31 pm

    People came to the US to be able to practice their religion freely and openly without persecution. What has happened to this vision. People that view religion as nonexistent are allowed to practice openly as well. Forcing your views on others is not allowed.

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    • CarsonComment by Carson
      March 8, 2014 @ 1:00 pm

      Kind of makes you think there should be a rule separating church and state.

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  39. wisdomseekerComment by wisdomseeker
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:50 pm

    The term “separation of church and state” appears nowhere in the Constitution. It is a bastardization of the 1st Amendment, used to take the free exercise of religion away from Christians.
    What the Constitution’s First Amendment does say is that government shall make no law “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The progressives seek to take that “free exercise” away from us. They hate Christianity because we can see through their deception and their evil.

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  40. ihveitComment by ihveit
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:57 pm

    these iditots have nothing to do but cause christians in sorow trouble? SOMEONE needs to drive by their house and see if electricty come off a telephone pole that is CROSS SHAPPED and if so remove the damn thing along with their electricity

    FOLKS ALONG THAT ROAD put up crosses for the lady in all your yards PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…. this is getting to be to much for mealy mouthed people going to mealy muuthed judges and getting their way..

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  41. CarsonComment by Carson
    March 8, 2014 @ 12:57 pm

    Don’t think of it as a religious symbol. Think of it as a warning sign.

    We tried putting some dead bicyclist or pedestrian symbols on the roadways around a town I was living in. They were made out of the same tape they use for some of the white lines on the road instead of paint. It served as a good reminder. The creepy thing though was that somehow some of them would come unstuck and move around and be several feet away from where they were first placed. Sort of like they had a life of their own.

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  42. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    March 8, 2014 @ 1:06 pm

    Atheists have a god and it is themselves and since that is the case, they don’t care about the feelings of others and all that matters is what they want.

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    • cxComment by genesal
      March 10, 2014 @ 10:54 am

      God has but one enemy and that is Satan. You are either for God or against God. He said so. So if you are not for God (atheist and others) then you are for his enemy, Satan. Therefore atheist’s have their religion (Satanism) whether they like it or not even if they can’t admit it.

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  43. bowler1hatComment by bowler1hat
    March 8, 2014 @ 1:21 pm

    Atheist groups have turned our justice system to use “Freedom of Religion” to ban Freedom of Religion from our lives. They have figuratively taken this son (as well as others) from their graves and run over them again to inflict exponentially greater harm and anguish on those families. The Constitution matters NOT. With this now judicial (atheist leaning judges)approval to open wounds that if left alone, take a lifetime to heal.

    Cruel and unusual punishment is against the law for those convicted of crimes, yet the innocent are free targets for mean people.

    Atheism, like Islam are religions of intolerance to other beliefs. While radical Islam usually kills outright, Atheists, while feigning encroachment on their rights, prefer to sit back and enjoy the agony as if a game show. How Old Testament evil, much like the Egyptians who fed their vanquished enemies to the crocodiles! I always thought that civilized mankind was above that.

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    • Oldsailor65Comment by Oldsailor65
      March 8, 2014 @ 1:30 pm

      I have never been a religious person though I grew up going to Baptist churches. I think the phony TV Evangelist turned me against religion over the years but the bullying of the atheist is turning me back toward Christianity.

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  44. oldsargeComment by oldsarge
    March 8, 2014 @ 2:02 pm

    Why does it always seem to be Christians these atheists go after? How come I never hear of them going against the Muslims Hindus or Buddhists? Put up a Nativity in a public place and they are all over you demanding it be removed. I have seen incidents where atheists have publicly burned Bibles. They should try that with the Koran and see what happens to them. When Muslims close down a street to have a big prayer gathering, it seems the atheists are nowhere to be seen. Christians are not allowed to pray in public places or schools but Muslims and Buddhists can. Not long after 911 a public school in California set up Muslim Awareness classes. Why weren’t the atheists screaming bloody murder about that? I have a few atheist friends that respect my Christian beliefs and also have taught their children to do the same. Them I have no problem with. The ones that try to make a public spectacle and try to jam their unbelieving rhetoric down my throat are, in my opinion, nothing but shameless grand-standers. I challenge all atheists to prove me wrong and go after the other religions just as vigorously as they go after Christians and Jews and show me that they are not the hypocrites I believe they are. They should also hope that Shariah Law will never replace our Constitution . I pray it doesn’t but what if it does?. Can you atheists afford to take that chance? If that happens, I would be willing to bet the farm that a lot of atheists will quickly get some prayer beads, a prayer rug, a Koran, face Mecca and start praying to Allah. WAKE UP AMERICA!

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  45. liesmaComment by liesma
    March 8, 2014 @ 2:03 pm

    Another case of a group screaming for tolerism, when that group isn’t tolerant itself.

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      March 9, 2014 @ 11:22 pm

      I think you mean ‘tolerance’.

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  46. hijalibreComment by hijalibre
    March 8, 2014 @ 3:29 pm

    I find it interesting and beyond hypocritical that leftests are SO CONCERNED about keeping the “law” when it comes to separation of church and state! This is a nation of laws, but that is not one of them. Leftists are unbelievable law breakers! In fact, one of their favorite mantras is “rules are made to be broken.” When it comes to our Constitution, they find ways to break its laws! They are enemies of this country who have invaded our gov’t. Then they wonder why we see them as UNPATRIOTIC! They really should move to Cuba, Venezuela, China, or Russia where they would feel more at home! We LOVE our country and Constitution with its laws! If you don’t like it, MOVE OUT!

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  47. buffalo99Comment by buffalo99
    March 8, 2014 @ 3:44 pm

    It seems that most have missed the point here. The complaint was that the sign was a cross and religious in nature on public property therefore violating the separation of CHURCH & STATE. Of course it’s overreach and mean but that’s its purpose, to get your goat. IHVEIT has a great solution; put thousands up on private lawns. Perhaps when the mean-spirited see that their complaints backfire, then they’ll find something else to play with. Personally, I think the “separation” was meant to allow freedom to believe what religion or lack of religion you want and I don’t believe any of these signs ever was intended to change anyone’s belief or ever did. And if there’s anything that I’m sure of, these idiotic complaints strengthen religious beliefs. So if the purpose is to expose themselves as jerks, then maybe the complaints are working.

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  48. csultzComment by csultz
    March 8, 2014 @ 4:32 pm

    As I read the U.S. Constitution, the separation of Church and State was to squelch any provision by the government to endorse or force a specific religion on the people. Freedom of religion is by the people, at their own choice. It is not for the government to decide. When these Judges rule the way this one did, he is actually forcing a belief on the very people that he is supposed to support by constitutional law. When an atheist group gets involved like this, they are forcing their beliefs on us. This in itself is unconstitutional.

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  49. commonsensegrandmaComment by commonsensegrandma
    March 8, 2014 @ 4:58 pm

    Christian Belief in a nutshell: “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.” So, no we would not force a grieving mother to take down a remebrance of her son because it “offended” ONE person. Atheist Motto: Goodness without God. So explain what “goodness” you did by denying a grieving mother a remembrance of her son because ONE person was offended? Atheists, you need to change your motto and the judges on our courts need to get a backbone and stop giving into all these “offended” people. I am offended that I and others are being denied our First Amendment Right. Separation of Church and state has been taken out of context from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, The SCOTUS isn’t in place to rule on Jeffersons’ letters, but to defend the letter of the law in the Constitution.

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  50. freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
    March 8, 2014 @ 5:17 pm

    How petty, to deny a grieving mother a Cross on her son’s death site. What does it possibly hurt by being there. What do Atheists do when a dear loved one dies, Just say farewell, welcome to nothingness?. They obviously do not believe in Hell, either.
    I do not hate Atheists, I do feel pity for them though. Eternity in Hell is just too much to wish for anyone, even one’s worst enemy.

    Quite simply, Atheists have no Soul. They deny the existence of God, and the Bibles originality. They believe, apparently, that when the body dies, it just goes into the dust, to return to dust. There is nothing, but death, and oblivion, and that is all death has.

    What a wonderful way to live, believing that once one dies, there is nothing more. I could, highly unlikely be wrong in my belief in God, but through that belief, studying of his word, believing in his Son, Jesus Christ Born, Crucified, interred, and raised from the Dead, I have eternal Life in a place of unbelievable beauty, peace, serenity, and joy,
    I will have a perfect body, with no pain, sorrow, regrets, or nightmares.
    This place is called Heaven.
    I also believe in another place, which it is told, is like being thrown into a volcano, eternally burning, but not being consumed. A place with no law, or rules, a place where Satan’s Demons, have a free hand to torture, maim, and constantly torment those condemned there by their own minds, disbeliefs and refusal to believe in the Son of God, his sacrificial death on the Cross, that all who believe in him, repent, and walk in newness of life, will be saved from the terrible, horrific, constantly tormented, place called Hell.

    Even if, we Christians should be wrong in our beliefs, is it not better to have a hope past death, than to believe, falsely, that there is nothing after the body dies and decays, only nothingness?.
    I would far rather believe in God, Jesus Christ, and eternal life in Paradise, only to die and there be no God, than to believe there is not a God, only to die and find our there is. We Christians have nothing to loose, as if there IS indeed nothing, we will not know of it. Atheists, on the other hand, will if we are right, certainly know of it.
    Is this truly the chance you wish to take with your fate?.

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    • danwebster355Comment by danwebster355
      March 8, 2014 @ 8:34 pm

      LOl! That’s news to me Juroo. I didn’t know I believe in invisible green people. Why discriminate. Why not red, blue and purple people.

      It’s so silly I don’t know how to respond.

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