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Valedictorian Rips Up Approved Speech, Recites Lord's Prayer

By Bobby Eberle

Roy Costner IV ended his high school career with a bang. As valedictorian, Costner had the honor of giving a speech in front of the entire school, and he certainly made an impact. The school district, under threats from the ACLU and atheist groups, had decided to end the practice of praying before school events. Costner had something else in mind.

As reported by Christian News, Liberty High School held its graduation ceremonies this past week, and little did the school officials know that their valedictorian was about to make national news.

A high school valedictorian from South Carolina ripped up his approved speech on stage this past weekend, and minutes later, delivered the Lord’s Prayer in defiance of the school district’s decision to no longer include prayer at graduation ceremonies.

Roy Costner IV drew loud applause and cheers when he surprised attendees of the Liberty High School graduation at Clemson’s Littlejohn Colliseum on Saturday.

Pickens County School District spokesman John Eby said that the decision to remove prayer from the ceremony was driven "from the ACLU sending FOIA requests to every district in the state this year after the Chesterfield County case, then the Freedom From Religion Foundation sent us a complaint about religion at board meetings and some other issues as well."

Costner ripped up his pre-approved speech in front of the audience and soon thanked his parents for his Christian upbringing.

“Those that we look up to, they have helped carve and mold us into the young adults that we are today,” he said. “I’m so glad that both of my parents led me to the Lord at a young age.”

“And I think most of you will understand when I say…” he continued, surprising the crowd with what came next.

“Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name,” Costner declared. “Thy Kingdom come…”

Here's a video of the audience reaction:

And to think... all of this "controversy" is spurred on by atheist groups who have nothing better to do than protest, protest, protest. If they don't believe in God, then that's their problem. But, of course, they don't stop there. Their entire mission is to stamp out all references to God in any public venue.

I say good for Costner!

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  2. nickster99Comment by nickster99
    June 6, 2013 @ 8:39 am

    That’s what I like to see a student. I mean a MAN with a set of stones! God bless him!

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:24 am

      I just wish he would have closed his speech with an invitation to the town atheists to relocate if they don’t like what the majority wants in that town.

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    • truthsayerComment by truthsayer
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:43 am

      FINALLY, A STRONG,BRAVE CHRISTIAN YOUNG MAN WHO STOOD UP AGAINST THOSE WHO WANT GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING. LIKE IT WAS SAID, IF U DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, THATS YOUR PRIVILEGE. FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND SPEECH WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THIS NATION. BUT, THERE ARE THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW OR CARE ABOUT PERSONAL FREEDOM AND ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO STAMP IT OUT AND MAKE OUR COUNTRY A SOCIALIST, GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED PEOPLE. SCRIPTURE SAYS WE ARE TO OBEY AUTHORITY UNLESS THEY ARE TELLING US TO GO AGAINST OUR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS. WELL, ITS TIME TO DO AS THIS YOUNG MAN HAD THE COURAGE, TO FOLLOW GOD AND GO AND TELL THE TRUTH, AND SHOUT ALOUD, ‘WE WILL NOT BOW OUR KNEE TO ANY OTHER AUTHORITY EXCEPT THAT GIVEN US BY GOD HIMSELF. AS IN JESUS’ TIME THERE WILL BE OPPOSITION BUT FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. GOD BLESS YOU MR. COSTNER. YOUR ACTION IS A EXCELLENT MODEL TO FOLLOW.

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    • pats75Comment by pats75
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:46 am

      Sometimes it takes a student to teach the rest of us how to behave. God Bless this young man!

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    • felps1Comment by felps1
      June 6, 2013 @ 12:06 pm

      God bless this kid it restores my faith in this generation. with youth like this there is still hope for the future, We only hear about the dirt bags, I bet there is plenty like him.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      June 6, 2013 @ 5:39 pm

      Here’s a shining example for our elected Conservative leaders to follow.

      And I say to these elected Conservative leaders—get up off your a$$es and follow it. Stop condescending and apologizing to the Liberal for everything. Stop compromising and giving in. Show some tenacity and conviction.

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    • darralComment by darral
      June 6, 2013 @ 7:35 pm

      Atheists fear there is a God, which is why they don’t want to be reminded there is God, All the atheists that I know are Democrats, ironically all the dictators, tyrants, evil vile Leaders of the world present and past were also atheists, It is time to stand up, take action, take back our Country, and Abolish this destructive Treasonous Democratic party.

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    • ryan26102003Comment by ryan26102003
      June 7, 2013 @ 8:29 am

      I am an Atheist, and a Libertarian, and I applaud this young man for what he did! (I support the 1st amendment) he earned the right to speak to his graduating class. I am OK with people praying in school, it doesn’t take anything away from me or anyone else. I am respectful enough to remain silent for one minute while someone prays. And I am respectful enough to not argue the point of the previous poster, that claims “All atheists are afraid of God.” (that is called “projection” where you are projecting your beliefs on someone else…)
      It is not my purpose to recruit or encourage others to believe (or not believe) the same way I do.
      I’m even OK with the 10 commandments being posted. I think they are some pretty good rules to follow. The 1st, I interpret as, “you are not the center of the universe” (and I don’t think I am) and the 2nd, I also enjoy at least one day off a week, for my mental health too…
      However, I do find offense from people who attempt to have power over me, or represent yourself as better than me, or “the enlightened” (like Ann Coulter) based on your religious beliefs or superiority…

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      June 7, 2013 @ 8:45 am

      Thank God we still have parents who teach their kids how to think and pray,
      Instead of schools who teach WHAT to think and say.

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  3. jb80538Comment by jb80538
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:01 am

    Live not in fear of reprisal young man. Follow your heart and your positive upbringing! Great of you to do this and even greater that so many applauded your prayer!

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    • notwamComment by notw
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:53 am

      Acts (6:8–6:10)

      8 And Stephen full of grace and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people. 9 But some men from what was called the Synagogue of the Freedmen, including both Cyrenians and Alexandrians, and some from Cilicia and Asia, rose up and argued with Stephen. 10 And yet they were unable to cope with the wisdom and the Spirit with which he was speaking.

      Just as Stephan rose up and stood before men and was stoned, Roy Costner IV stood up in the face of those who believe there is no God or don’t want to believe for fear of conviction, and prayed as Jesus prayed. Awesome. I speak from knowing of people who come against the things of God, as I was one who believed there was no God until 10 years ago when He interrupted my life and He proved to me existed. He is Alive and coming soon.

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  4. stshepherdComment by stshepherd
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:13 am

    Of course it’s “good for (Mr.) Costner”! That act of courage and Godly defiance will set the course for his entire adult life. That was no “accident.” God had the whole thing in mind and even the aCLU protests- to HIS glory! Praise the Lord- God is in control- always has been, always will be. Atheism is evil. They are one in the same. Are we to be afraid of evil?
    In the prayer itself it says “deliver us from evil.” You don’t think God won’t?! You don’t think He’s capable?! He has already vanquished evil forever, He’s just waiting for whatever souls He has planned to redeem between now and the end of time. David wrote to his Shepherd- “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.” We’re supposed to fear the aCLU and “PC” lesbians and feminazis and their pathetic male friends. I don’t think so.

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    • jiggsterComment by jiggster
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:16 am

      This is all well and good that this young man wants to violate the separate of church and state and the law. Had he been a Muslim and said a prayer from the Quran or Buddhist and brought a prayer wheel and a gong, I am sure you people who are trashing the ACLU while praising an unlawful act, would be beating this young man over the head with the First Amendment. What a bunch of self righteous hypocrites.

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:38 am

      Jiggster:

      This freedom of religion thing is all well and good as long as it doesn’t go too far. Extending it beyond the Christian faith, and other protestant faiths is just going too far! Freedom of anything is like a rubber band, you stretch it too far and it snaps back and bite you. Have to keep those alien faiths out of the mix. For those who believe in God without interposing some religious brand between them and their God, well that’s just a little too odd. We need those guys with big hair and dimples to tell us where to send the money!

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    • cyoderComment by cyoder
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:48 am

      Sorry, Jiggster, he violated nothing. There is no law against what he did, and since he did it on his own (freedom of speech) and not on orders from the school, he did not violate separation of church and state (which isn’t in the Constitution anyway).

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    • bulldogComment by bulldog
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:51 am

      @jiggster

      You need to read the constitution. There is no clause that says there is a separation of church and state. That is a lie that has been perpetrated for many years.

      The First Amendment
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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    • sockettuemComment by sockettuem
      June 6, 2013 @ 12:03 pm

      Sorry Jiggster, there is no seperation of church and state law and nowhere in the United States constitution does it say a single word about seperation of church and state. That assertion is simply an invented judicial fiat by some black-robed oligarch. The young man was simply exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the fist amendment. The constitution states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 2:08 pm

      To Jiggster: Before accusing people of “violating the law”, and prattling about “separation of church and state”, maybe you ought to actually READ the law. First of all, the Constitution guarantees freedom OF religion–not freedom FROM religion. Separation of church and state is a liberal atheist invention that has exactly NOTHING to do with this young man’s right to pray if he wants to–in PUBLIC if he wants to. He is not a state, a government, or even a government employee–so how does this apply? Can’t you see just how MORONIC your feeble argument really is?

      The Constitution forbids the government from establishing an official state religion like King Henry VIII and the Church of England–and forcing people to adhere to that religion–nothing more. This whole “separation of church and state” fabrication that has been dreamed up by liberty-stealing radicals like Obama and endorsed and swallowed whole by idiots like you is just that–a fabrication invented to undermine our Constitution and the liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Those rights are endowed by God and guaranteed by our Constitution. It is only idiots like YOU who try to bend and warp it to shape some half-a$$ed liberal idea of “tolerance” that are putting ALL our rights and liberties at risk. Before you start prattling about what the Constitution says to THIS crowd, you had better read it, because we KNOW what our Constitution says and what our rights are, which obviously you do not. So in THIS particular battle of wits, Skippy, YOU are unarmed by your sweeping IGNORANCE about the Constitution and your own rights, which you would apparently happily sign away.

      So instead of pulling things out of your nether regions trying to sound smart, you ought to make sure you know what you are talking about. As Abraham Lincoln said, ‘It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      June 6, 2013 @ 2:48 pm

      You guys focus on the violation of the law comment instead of the point of Jiggster’s post: Only certain religions are acceptable. This fine young man stood up for his beliefs and stood against the adults at his school, undoubtedly with the support of his family. I salute him. Suppose the valedictorian had been a Muslim who did the same? Same support here? Somehow I doubt it. Therefore its’ not about religious freedom for all, only for some practicing the approved religions.

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    • pats75Comment by pats75
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:22 pm

      Freebird, perhaps it is you who don’t get it. Christianity and Judaism are the only faiths it’s okay to slam. We are sick and tired of having our rights stripped away and ridiculed. I never thought to look down on people of different faiths until after 9-11 and now I’m afraid because of the evil things some do in the name of their faith. I don’t hear Muslims denouncing the Boston Marathon Bombing or the killings in Benghazi. If that were to happen I might not be so fearful for my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Do NOT judge me until you’ve walked in my shoes! Again, God Bless the young man and his parents for raising him so well!

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    • pats75Comment by pats75
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:42 pm

      Regarding Freebirds comments. The only Religions in this country that aren’t acceptable are Christianity and Judaism. And I was never judgmental of any faith prior to 9-11. Maybe if the “American Muslims” (is there such a thing) denounced the Boston Marathon Bombing or the Benghazi killings I’d feel differently!

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

      To Freebird: Sorry to tell you, but your feeble attempt at sarcasm was, well, feeble, and LAME. You are no more erudite than your pal, Jigger. Freedom of religion means you are free to exercise your OWN religion and live your own life as you see fit. It does NOT mean you have the right to impose your beliefs by FORCE on anybody else, as the Muslims apparently want to do. Their “church outreach” program equals “convert or DIE”. How is THAT “freedom of religion? And for that matter, you could also say the atheists are not content to believe as they beileve–they want to impose THEIR beliefs on everybody else–by lawsuit or just being loud and obnoxious, which is really a violation of everybody ELSE’S rights. What you liberal meddlers who want to tell everybody ELSE what to do fail to understand is that YOUR rights stop where MINE begin. OK? Got that? I know that being a liberal, you are not too quick, and mainly depend on repeating liberal talking points like a parrot in an attempt to sound “smart”, but try to understand the concept of INDIVIDUAL rights. Not “collective” rights–that is Communist BS and has no place in a free society. INDIVIDUAL rights.

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    • dwschoComment by dwscho
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:46 pm

      Freebird. If the Valedictorian were a Muslim he could have said his own prayer. Today, in our country the only religion that seems not to be trashed is Islam. Why is that acceptable. I say this young man did a great thing. Separation of Church and State only means the State can’t endorse a religion. There certainly was no endorsement as this young man did it all on his own. But, I will bet you he will face reprisals from the school administration for having done so.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:56 pm

      To Pat75: You are EXACTLY right. All these “moderate” Muslims I keep hearing about are strangely silent and INVISIBLE. Have you ever heard even ONE Muslim stand up and denounce the violence done on our country by these people? No, and you probably never will. As I said, their “church outreach program” consists of three words: Convert or DIE.

      To me, being intolerant of a religion that tolerates no other and seeks to KILL anybody who does not agree with them is not intolerance–it is just plain COMMON SENSE!

      Aside from all that, Islam is NOT a “religion”. It is a system for WORLD DOMINANCE trying to pass itself off s a “religion” to exploit for themselves rights they would deny to everybody ELSE.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 4:39 pm

      To freebird: You apparently do not read much better than you reason. We are not “just focusing on the breaking the law point”. We are making the point that the ONLY religion that seems to be denied freedom and limited in this way is the CHRISTIAN religion — all in the name of “tolerance”, of course.

      So in the name of “religious freedom” you people continually violate the religious freedom of Christians, but it’s OK for any OTHER religion to do whatever, including, apparently, KILL people they don’t agree with. How is THAT, by any definition, FREEDOM?

      Here’s another point you apparently don’t get: We don’t have to ask anybody’s “permission” to exercise our rights of free speech and religion, as these rights were not given to us by government, nor can government take them away. The school was out of line asking this young man to submit his speech for their “censorship” before he was allowed to give it. THAT is a violation of his right to freedom of speech. How come you didn’t object to that?

      I think it’s clear that all this phoney-baloney talk about “tolerance” and “separation of church and state” from our government is just code-talk for persecuting Christians. Too bad people like you are so easily misled that you buy into this unconstitutional, anti-freedom BULL-PUCKEY. Given that you are so gullible and easily talked out of your freedoms, if it were up to people like you, NONE of us would be free for very long. And as the country seems to have been taken over by FOOLS with this point of view, I fear for our country and ALL our freedoms. They won’t need to be taken from us if enough idiots like you are willing to GIVE THEM AWAY.

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    • gopuc12450Comment by gopuc12450
      June 6, 2013 @ 5:16 pm

      Geez oleteabag, I had some questions for jiggster, until I found this post; you pretty much have it covered.

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  5. southernpatriotComment by southernpatriot
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:27 am

    Several months ago Liberty Institute (Counsel) sent brochures to every public school administrator in the country informing them that every court case ever adjudicated in the country’s history has held that Freedom of Speech rights extend to students/children, and even in public school and public settings. Prayer is included in the First Amendment rights. Students may pray, and not just silently. Students may have Bible clubs if any other club (Beta, Honors, Latin, Key, Sierra, Green, Socialist) is allowed at the school.

    Though I graduated long ago, a few years after the 1961 Supreme Court decision, I as a student then was “allowed” to initiate a prayer at my graduation, quote from the Bible in my speech and not have my speech pre-approved (censored) by the school.

    Today things are far worse with the lawsuits from the ACLU and other anti-Christian groups abounding. Roy Costner IV did the right thing. The Lord’s Prayer was a good prayer to use. I used Jesus’ prayer as recorded in John 17. Then also the prayer of Paul in Ep. 1: 16 -23. I similarly used the latter again in my college graduation speech.

    Though there cannot be teacher or administration led prayers, there always can be student led prayers, without any teacher or administrator announcing or giving “permission” of the prayer. Such as, “Now we will hear from our valedictorian, Roy Costner IV” Then Roy arises and prays and says whatever he wants to say. That is Freedom of Speech, not prior restraint (censorship), nor does the speaker have to stick to pre approved remarks. No matter what any of these anti-Christian groups may do, no matter what intimidation, they cannot prevent a student from his constitutional right to speak or pray.

    Groups to contact who will represent any student who is intimidated by these anti-Christian organizations are: Liberty Counsel and American Center for Law and Justice along with others.

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    • dgmerlin3gopComment by dgmerlin3gop
      June 6, 2013 @ 9:38 am

      Good on you young Mr Costner. Your parents have raised you well. South Carolina being more of a friendly state to your Christian convictions is a plus, however the anti-Christian bigotry abounds through out the US. Noted is the spontaneous response from those in the audience. They know even in SC that political correctness abounds in Public education. You should do well no matter where your future takes you.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:34 am

      SouthernPatriot: Interesting that you know the correct Lord’s prayer is in John 17. Not too many people realize that. Great post.

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  6. freedixieComment by freedixie
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:30 am

    A fine young man setting a good example, and standing up to the bullying ACLU. This reflects well of his parents and upbringing. This is the type we need leading this country into the future.

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  7. outspoken2Comment by outspoken2
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:34 am

    Well spoken young man, he’ll make a fine leader some day. Mikey Weinstein “Freedom from Religion Foundation”, and ACLU, stick it and up yours…………

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  8. lizazComment by lizaz
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:34 am

    Now there’s a young man of principal….if I was an employer, I would hire him immediately. Congratulations to you and your family and Godspeed….

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  9. Jack ReacherComment by Jack Reacher
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:41 am

    Did you notice those sad-sack, scumbags sitting on the dias completely refused to acknowledge this young man and the applause he was receiving from the crowd.

    We need more young people like this guy to stand up to these atheist cowards that can only have things their way or no way.

    Another successful attack on mentally deranged clowns.

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    • flpatriotComment by flpatriot
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:17 am

      What an inspiring address this young man gave! We all need to follow his example whenever we have the opportunity…especially in these times.

      I at first thought those sitting behind Mr. Costner were disapproving of his comments. But, could they have been praying with him? Just a thought.

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    • navy30Comment by navy30
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:18 am

      This must be an example of conservative tolerance another blogger told me about. Would he be such a hero if he instead spoke a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim or devil worship prayer? Or would you shout him down? After all, religious freedom should be allowed, correct? Or does religious freedom only apply to Christians?

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:58 am

      To navy30: These days, “religious freedom” applies to anybody BUT Christians, and other groups–ESPECIALLY Muslims–are allowed to pray wherever they want. Just saw a news post a couple of days ago about requiring schools to allow Muslim students to have prayers in school, even though nobody ELSE is allowed. Christians can’t even say “Merry Christmas” without getting flack from SOMEBODY.

      One of our local elementary schools here brought in a Hindu priest and let him spend an ENTIRE DAY indoctrinating students about Hinduism. Can you IMAGINE the hell that would be raised, if the school brought in a Christian preacher to proselytize? Mind you, I’m not saying schools should DO that, but neither should they bring in any OTHER religion to do it.

      What liberal idiots don’t understand is the Constitution guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. It’s only because gutless govt. lawyers and judges have allowed the bullying minority to tyrannize the majority on this issue that these freedoms are under assault and endangered.

      Isn’t it interesting how these attacks and smears have ACCELERATED since Obama was President? I’m sure that is just coincidence, though. (Heavy sarcasm DELIBERATE).

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    • emmy1Comment by emmy1
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:59 am

      Oh, but at least two of the women smiled! And only one in the front showed agitation in her foot movements but she was doing that from the beginning of the video.

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      June 6, 2013 @ 12:14 pm

      navy30…This country was founded on Christian principles, not Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, or Satanic. As for conservative tolerance, it is the conservative (and the Christian) that is not tolerated. Yes, religious freedom should be allowed. But it is the Christian who is not allowed any freedom in this country anymore. We as a nation have thrown God out and we are not allowed to speak of Him in public. A Christian is not allowed to have a Bible, the Ten Commandments, prayer, or any other reference to God in a public school. That is NOT religious freedom! That is religious oppression! I applaud Roy Costner for his courage to do what he did.

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  10. capricorn1Comment by capricorn1
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:41 am

    way to go young man.

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  11. LardoComment by Lardo
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:48 am

    Matthew 10-32: Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

    Well done, Mr. Costner.

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  12. Ollie_FanComment by Ollie_Fan
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:00 am

    After a few days of disheartening news, this put a big ol’ smile on my face! Way to go kid!

    Isn’t it funny that “sticking it to the man” now-a-days means being a polite, Christian youth?

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  13. freebirdComment by freebird
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:01 am

    Excellent! The young shall lead the way! These atheists are out of control. Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion, but then again it really is isn’t it…you are free to believe and pray or not. You don’t have to participate if you don’t want to. Those who do follow a religion don’t infringe on those who don’t believe, why should they be allowed to infringe on those of us who do? Like so many things the government has got it dreadfully wrong.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 5:08 pm

      To Freebird: Yes, you ARE free to believe or not, or pray or not. My purpose in pointing out that freedom FROM religion is important is that the government is not allowed to declare Christianity the “official state religion” and force everybody to be Christians. But it’s apparently OK with our President for Muslims to attempt to force everybody to be Muslims.

      And your idea of “tolerance” is apparently tolerance for every religion in the world EXCEPT Christianity. I have no confusion between belief in God and Christianity. For MY part, my belief in God is rooted in Christianity. I can’t say what basis other people use, nor is it my business to try to coerce them to agree with me, which is what Atheists and Muslims do, apparently with your approval.

      I ask you again: Do you think singling out ONE religion for harassment, persecution and restrictons while allowing OTHERS is OK, or that is “separaton of church and state”? It is NOT “freedom” and it sure ain’t JUSTICE–but it is apparently OK with you.

      And as for our Founding Fathers not specifically referring to Christianity, you are dead wrong. That is the garbage being taught as “history” in public schools these days, but it is not the truth.

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      June 7, 2013 @ 9:32 pm

      Christianity is not under siege any more than any other religion. The issue is Christianity pushes the creche, the cross, the ten commandments and private entities and private citizens can do that, but not on public property; nor can public figures favor one religion over another. People are allowed to pray, sing hymns, chant, rap, whatever they want as long as it isn’t viewed as promoted by any governmental entity.

      The lazy buggers decided that it was easiest to eliminate rather than encourage all religions to be expressed. Same kind of thinking that makes these “zero tolerance policies on drugs, weapons, etc. Nobody has to think, make decisions about what is sensible and what is inane.

      Atheism is a religion unto itself and should be prohibited, same as they try to do to others.

      I can give you several quotes from the founders praising God, but you’ll be hard pressed to find one that praises Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or Confucius. Many were Deists. They believed in God, they had strong feelings about morality and ethics as the values that a country and its government must have. It’s pretty clear we’ve fallen away from those imperatives.

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  14. awkingsleyComment by awkingsley
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:03 am

    America cannot survive with minority rule. Either we go back to majority rule, or we are done as a nation. Promoting short comings instead of excellence degrades all American citizens, and our country falls to the lowest common denominator. The only question for a society controlled by minorities is, just how low can society fall? The answer is all of the way down. Russia’s GDP is comprised of 40% Organized Crime – a result of abolition of religion. People in China are basically schooled as sciopaths. Either the majority regains control, or America is gone.

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    • bulldogComment by bulldog
      June 6, 2013 @ 12:07 pm

      Actually Christianity in China is spreading, just watch the 700 Club and the life and see some of the miracles os God spreading his word. Look at the beautiful Christmas decorations in a lot of Asian cities. They look better than anything around Southern California, and I bet they don’t get complaints about them.

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      June 6, 2013 @ 12:07 pm

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  15. librabobComment by librabob
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:32 am

    That there are young men and women out there like Roy Costner gives me hope this country will survive this downward moral spiral we are currently experiencing. God bless him and God bless America.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:39 am

      We need to hear more who are standing up for Christ and not afraid what man can do to them. God protects more than we know. We have His Word; now we need to believe it…
      Phil 4:6 Be anxious (stop worrying about anything) for nothing, but in everything (in all circumstances: prosperity and adversity) by means of prayer and supplication (requesting special needs for self) after thanksgivings let your requests be made known to God (let the things sought for be revealed in the presence of The God).
      Romans 4:21 and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform.
      Is 41:10 Do not fear, for I am with you; do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, surely I will uphold you with MY righteous right hand.

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  16. gopuc12450Comment by gopuc12450
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:35 am

    And, how old must one be to have more integrity and fortitude than 90% of your Congressman?

    This young man rates up there with Patriots that stand within the military, in defense of Liberty and Freedom.

    Well done Lad. Now, where can we find another 534 of the same?

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    • rustypatComment by rustypat
      June 6, 2013 @ 10:44 am

      I may be an rusty patriot, but it is very encouraging to see that we actually have some youth in the upcoming generation who understand what it means to stand up and defend our country and our ways.

      God Bless this young man, and others like him.

      Obama-Nation is an Abomination.
      http://www.openbible.info/topics/abomination

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  17. americaneagle1392Comment by americaneagle1392
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:36 am

    It’s about time we started fighting back against the forces of darkness. We don’t tell atheists what to do, and we shouldn’t allow them to dictate what we do.

    These evil reprobates are not satisfied with just believing what they want, as is their constitutionally protected right; they want everyone else to submit to what they want.

    I hope more school kids follow this lead.

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  19. oleteabagComment by oleteabag
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:48 am

    Christians are forbidden to pray ANYWHERE, and yet there are stories in the news about Muslim students being allowed to pray in school, and we are threatened by our government with JAIL if we speak ill of a Muslim.

    What happened to “equal protection under the law?”

    It’s a sad day in America when a high school student exhibits more courage in the face of persecution than either our lawmakers or our Supreme Court.

    God bless this young man! His parents must be so proud of him!

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    • southernpatriotComment by southernpatriot
      June 6, 2013 @ 2:58 pm

      Thank you for your posts on this blog. You are bringing reason to confront the unreasonable, wisdom to confront the unwise, and honor to confront the dishonorable. Thank you and God bless you.

      I have been busy since my original post helping relatives (a large extended family of 3 generations) to pack trailers and vans to head back to Moore, OK and the surrounding area to offer help those who lost everything. We know what it is to lose everything (Hurricanes Camille, Andrew, Katrina, Rita, Gustav, Isaac, and others).

      Jesus said “What you do unto the least of these, you have done unto me.” And those who have lost everything, I think qualify as among the “least of these.”

      Please keep the fires here burning for the truth you know and are posting!

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  20. ladibugComment by ladibug
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:51 am

    BRAVO ! Stand up for your beliefs.
    May God keep his hand upon you and your family for not being ashamed to call him your Lord.
    The blood of Jesus cover you.
    May God bless and prosper ALL that you do throughout your life.
    Amen

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  21. sockettuemComment by sockettuem
    June 6, 2013 @ 11:23 am

    A young man of courage and character. Your parents, classmates and fellow citizens are proud of you!
    May the road rise up to meet you
    May the wind be always at your back
    May the sun shine warm upon your face,
    the rain fall soft upon your fields
    And May Almighty God hold you in the palm of his hand.

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  22. kpjlawComment by kpjlaw
    June 6, 2013 @ 11:35 am

    The really sick thing about this is that if the student was a Muslim and wanted to say a Muslim prayer at his graduation, the ACLU would fight for his right to do so and most school districts would fall over themselves to allow a Muslim prayer. In this country, some religions are more equal than others.

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  23. moonshineComment by moonshine
    June 6, 2013 @ 11:39 am

    This is really fantastic. It gives you hope in this dark time.
    Most HS and college students are so out of it, having been dumbed down by the education system, liberal teachers, and political correctness that they don’t comprehend the trouble that they and the rest of this country is in.
    If the ever clearly understand that this administration intends to deprive them of their Constitutional freedoms and make them surfs of the state, that they will not have a good paying job, and will no longer be free; then perhaps they will join us in the fight against this radical, anti-American group of arrogant Chicago criminals.

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  24. wdjincComment by wdjinc
    June 6, 2013 @ 11:39 am

    Costner exercised his Freedom of Speech which should trump the actions of the damned atheists who are intent on destroying any references to religion or God.

    Our founders believed in God and public prayers and Freedom of Religion…not Freedom From Religion. The twisted redefinition of separation of church and state was brought about from the liberals and the atheists. The ACLU should be abolished..they are a Marxist organization and intent on destroying our cultural and moral values.

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    • pkbwComment by pkbw
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:48 am

      I LOVE this kid! Way to go!

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  25. AMVoterComment by AMVoter
    June 6, 2013 @ 12:03 pm

    Kudos to this fine young man!

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  26. whodunitComment by whodunit
    June 6, 2013 @ 12:22 pm

    It’s amazing that, in today world, openly being a Christian also makes you a rebel.

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  27. anothersonofgodComment by anothersonofgod
    June 6, 2013 @ 12:30 pm

    In a nation with a constitution that reads, in part,
    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof….” Why does an organization named, “Freedom From Religion Foundation” even exist?

    Congress made no law. FFR did. Why is FFR making laws? Is this any different than, say, Islamoids forcing Sharia “law” on us? Why has this happened?

    It isn’t because of God. Not because of a lack in faith. It is from lack of practicing the ethical, moral and social values that Christianity and those with faith hold. We need to practice what we preach and encourage.

    The cure is very simple:

    These organizations exist because the faithful have not out-voted them. Fact is, we are the majority, but we have been out-voted for decades.
    We have become The West, even though many, like Costner, cling mightily to not only God’s word but to what we know in our hearts to be right, we don’t act together to do what is correct.

    We see ourselves as individuals. God see us that way, too.
    There is a problem, though.

    God may see us individuals, but we are judged as a People. A Society. Remember the lesson of Sodom and Gomorra? Do you think the tiny children of Sodom, the tailors and the fruit-sellers were all corrupt? Of course not.
    Yet all suffered the same fate. They were judged by God as A People. As a Culture.

    It is something to think about. We can’t avoid being part of our country, sit back and say “God will sort it out!”
    Because, God may just do that.

    Better we stand as a Costner now than fall as a Lott tomorrow.

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  28. miffmoleComment by miffmole
    June 6, 2013 @ 1:21 pm

    As soon as a moslem valedictorian gets up and recites the Al-Fatiha, your all are going to **** your collective pants. Oh yes, it’s coming.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 2:02 pm

      To miffmole: I’m quite sure that time is coming, since I read in the news there is a news afoot to allow Muslim students to pray in school–even though NOBODY ELSE is allowed to do so. We can thank our Muslim-loving President and idiots like YOU who no doubt voted for him for trashing our First Amendment rights.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 2:03 pm

      To miffmole: As to a Muslim valedictorian reciting a Muslim prayer, I’m not too worried about some stone-age barbarian being valedictorian. Just sayin’

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    • moonshineComment by moonshine
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:04 pm

      Miffmole, you seem to know a lot about Muslim prayers. Are you a Muslim, a Christian, or perhaps an atheist?
      In any case, not to worry, a Muslim valedictorian is a contradiction in terms. Muslims are taught not to be deep thinkers, or scholars; but to respond emotionally. That way they can be controlled with their emotions. It is similar in concept to “low information voters”, that have been dumbed down sufficiently, and respond best to sound bites, not reason. You are a perfect example of a citizen that never received training on the Constitution, and the rights afforded to you therein. As you apparently don’t know your rights; you will not demand them, or miss them if they are taken away by this radical, arrogant, anti-American, Muslim-loving, lying administration. Don’t feel bad, its part of the strategic plan of the liberals to intentionally trash the Constitution, and replace it with something better, like Communism. This plan is being implemented daily by the Obama White House even now. Coercion is one of their primary tools. Do you get the idea? Let’s hope you do. God Bless America.

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  29. imdrusComment by imdrus
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:23 pm

    That’s how you REPRESENT a free American, Mr. Roy Costner IV!
    Your gentle respect, sincere gratitude, and free speech in the face of growing tyranny from the hateful atheist assault on liberty – It was inspiring! May all freedom loving Christian Americans continue to speak freely and honorably. Let your honorable voices be heard, Christians!

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  30. miffmoleComment by miffmole
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

    oleteabag, nice ad hominem attack. Sorry dude, I’m a Republican. So, are Chinese valedictorians (Taoist) or Indian valedictorians (Hindi) also barbarians ??

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 4:50 pm

      To Miffmole: No, they’re not–and if they WERE, I would have said so. I’m perfectly capable of articulating what I mean. Are you? You apparently buy into this “collective salvation”, “anything goes”, “we have to tolerate EVERYTHING” line of BS put out by Obama and other freedom-grabbers like him.

      All this PC GARBAGE is merely an attempt to intimidate those who know better into silence. They don’t have to worry much about folks like you, because you are gullible and stupid and have apparently bought into his BS hook, line, and sinker.

      So just keep on drinkin’ that Kool-Aid, Sunshine, and one day you will wake up with a yoke on your neck and chains around your ankles. Those of us who know better are simply doing our best to make sure you don’t drag US down with you.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 4:54 pm

      To miffmole: Ohh, look at that! “Ad hominem attack.” Skippy took a semester of “critical thinking” in college and NOW he thinks he’s a genius. Forgive me if I’m less than dazzled by your academic achievements. I specifically mentioned MUSLIMS, and did not include other groups for a reason–they are the ONLY group who wants to KILL everybody who does not agree with them! (Not only WANT to, but DO so at every opportunity. Do you recall 9-11? The Boston Marathon Bombing? Benghazi?) Also, they seem to have this delusion that they should control the world, and I’m sorry, but I don’t agree, nor am I WILLING to be controlled by the likes of them–or people like YOU, for that matter. If i had wanted to include Hindus and others, I would have mentioned them by name. You can’t win this argument by putting words in my mouth, Skippy. Sorry.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 5:17 pm

      To miffmole: It has also been said, “The only thing needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

      I submit that all this PC garbage is designed to intimidate “good men” into doing NOTHING to stop them from trampling our Constitution underfoot and putting an END to our freedoms.

      The liberal idea that “tolerance” means you “must” approve of and put up with anything and every crack-brained nut-case THEORY that comes down the road is just STUPID. There is a group of PEDOPHILES called the Man-Boy Association that advocates adults using children for sex. Should we allow that too, in the name of tolerance? At some point, I think common sense should trump tolerance, but that’s just me.

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    • pats75Comment by pats75
      June 6, 2013 @ 7:05 pm

      Miffmole: If it walks like a liberal and talks like a liberal, well you get the point. Or maybe it’s just that most agnostics or atheists or whatever you call yourself, are screaming liberals! There is nothing you can say that will encourage me to think any differently about the young man and his prayer, God Bless him!

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  31. kbarnettComment by kbarnett
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:27 pm

    As I viewed the news last night, I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing. A true American 18 year old Patriot. I believe we have millions of Costners in our school system. I teach an early morning seminary class of 30 High School students. They volunteer to join together to learn about the New Testament. They feel the 45 minutes provides a shield for them to help get thru the day. Everyone of these kids are Costners. If we are willing to look, I believe we can find the glass half full rather than half empty. I am so proud to say I know them and they are my friends. it is a priviledge to know and love Christ. Life is a test. Enduring to the end is the goal.

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  32. oleteabagComment by oleteabag
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:32 pm

    Christianity is woven throughout the fabric of our country, and this was done by DESIGN by the Founding Fathers. I believe it was John Adams who said a free republic cannot survive without MORALITY.

    This misguided–and DELIBERATE–attempt by radicals, liberals and atheists to remove all traces of Christianity from our government structure and national culture is doomed to FAIL. It is both an assault on our liberties and an exercise in futility.

    For if you keep picking at those threads of Christianity and trying to pull them out of the fabric, you will end up unraveling the whole thing, which is apparently what these loony liberals WANT.

    Thank God for courageous people like this young man who are not afraid to stand up for their rights and freedoms. Just for the record, in case anybody was “offended” by his prayer, NOWHERE in the Constitution is there any guarantee of freedom from being offended. GROW UP, already.

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      June 6, 2013 @ 3:07 pm

      Like too many, you confuse a belief in God with Christianity. They are not the same and many of the Founders were not Christian, certainly not by your standards. They believed in God, they believed in morality and they believed in freedom of religion, not just Christian religion. A kid can weave religion, Christianity, Islam, etc. into his speech and our Constitution will protect him or her. What is will not do is protect authorities from supporting or backing or appearing to support or back a single religion over others. That’s what the Constitution finds abhorrent. It also find closed minded people incompatible with true freedom for all.

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    • pats75Comment by pats75
      June 6, 2013 @ 6:58 pm

      Hmmmm, somebody better tell Obama because he is certainly supporting Islam over all other religions!

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  33. dfrieze2001Comment by dfrieze2001
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:36 pm

    May this young man be a shining Example to all young men.

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  34. wallybluComment by wallyblu
    June 6, 2013 @ 2:44 pm

    The ACLU better watch the IRS scandal closely.

    If Tea Party organizations and other conservative groups are not tax exempt because they deal in politics, the ACLU should lose their tax exempt status as well.

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  36. bowieknife5Comment by bowieknife5
    June 6, 2013 @ 3:17 pm

    Every time I hear about a young person who stands firm for Christ, I am heartened because these instances are not coincidental. God is still working through his people! For those who wonder why a Muslim student standing for his faith at a similar function in America might not be as well-received…why would the America that was originally founded on Judeo-Christian principles embrace Islam, which essentially desires to suppress both Judaism and Christianity even to the point of those jihadists who desire to totally destroy Jews and Christians? Choose whom you will follow because you must make a decision for one side or the other. If you stand for false religions, you should be prepared to reap the whirlwind. “For they sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind….” (Hosea 8:7a)

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  37. ucb1983Comment by ucb1983
    June 6, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

    @bna42: Since when is America purely about majority rules when it comes to rligion or religous expression? This country came into being because of oppression of religious minorities.

    I wonder if the people in the audience would have been as supportive if he had chosen to recite verse from the Quran?!?!

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      June 6, 2013 @ 5:59 pm

      Is that not what the libtards always want–majority rule? I do not need a lesson about being a Republic.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 6, 2013 @ 6:24 pm

      You are quite right that it has never been purely about majority rule in this country, and that was by design. After all, the mob rule of the French Revolution was a prime example of pure, democratic “majority rule” in action.

      Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb arguing about what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well-armed lamb disputing that vote.” (MORE evidence, by the way, that the Founding Fathers fully intended the Second Amendment as a means of individual protection against tyranny.)

      The beauty of our system is that it protects the rights of BOTH the majority and the minority. The trouble is that now, what our founding fathers intended has been perverted by this whole notion of PC to allow the MINORITY to tyrannize the majority, and I’m quite sure THAT was never their intention, either.

      PC is nothing more than anti-freedom attempts to control thought and speech and intimidate any disagreement into silence, and it’s always purported to be in the name of “tolerance”. But PC is neither “tolerant” nor freedom-friendly, since its only intention is to quash dissent, sometimes with tragic results.

      For example, MANY people at Fort Hood knew the shooter who killed and wounded all those people was an Islamic extremist and getting nuttier by the day, yet NOBODY spoke up to say so, because of PC and “tolerance” concerns, and the way it had been applied as govt. policy.

      So they remained silent, because they knew they would be CRUCIFIED by the PC Police in the govt. for speaking out about his growing instability because he was a Muslim. And because they remained silent, people died. And NOW, because of PC concerns, the SHOOTER is receiving FULL PAY, while his victims are dead and/or suffering from serious injuries for which they receive very limited support and violence because Obama labeled it “workplace violence” rather than admit it was an Islamic terrorist attack on our military.

      Do you REALLY think THAT guy would have been employed as a counselor for service people returning home from the War on Terror in Afghanistan, without the oppressive presence of PC “tolerance”? In saner times, he would have been considered a SECURITY RISK and not even ALLOWED in the US Armed Forces, much LESS appointed to “debrief” soldiers returning from the War in Afghanistan where our people were being killed and wounded by people JUST LIKE HIM. Whoever made the decision to put this guy into that position must be a SPECIAL kind of STUPID.

      And the court sits and debates about whether the Islamic nutcase should get to keep his BEARD or not. THIS is the kind of “justice” you can expect when PC rules the day. The Fort Hood shootings were a tragedy that could have been prevented, had not all the shooter’s co-workers been intimidated into keeping quiet because of “tolerance” and “PC”.

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      June 8, 2013 @ 7:49 am

      First off, an earthquake is a tragedy. This was a terrorist act and murder. Second, the majority don’t need their rights protected except from the government. The only rights really in danger are the minority and the ignorant who choose not to remain engaged and understand what is in their best interests. That’s the purpose of the Bill of Rights. Some of the Founders, Hamilton, Washington, others, thought we didn’t need a BoR’s because of the checks and balances in the structure. Jefferson saw that the SC had the capacity to become a dictatorial, unelected power among the three bodies. What they didn’t expect and to our shame, was that the people would become sheeple and vote the free handouts.

      It was Obama’s people who called Fort Hood workplace violence because otherwise he’d have to deal with another Muslim fanatic nut-job in the face of his narrative that he had whipped AQ and they were of no more consequence. Our biggest potential threat isn’t from without, it’s from within – ourselves getting lazy, dependent and spineless. If we go down it will be from within.

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  38. freethinkerComment by freethinker
    June 6, 2013 @ 5:20 pm

    I have a new HERO today!

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  39. miffmoleComment by miffmole
    June 6, 2013 @ 5:52 pm

    TeaBag, Wrong again. I’m just a high school educated, agnostic, conservative that does not wish to worship a mythical god when I attend civic events. I’m not interested in your intolerant, extremist and quite frankly barbaric rants. You certainly do not represent my Republican party.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      June 6, 2013 @ 6:28 pm

      No one ever forced you to worship ANY god!

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    • kingster1024Comment by kingster1024
      June 6, 2013 @ 6:55 pm

      To miffmole your about as much of a republican as much as your a Christian you sound pretty intolerant yourself it must feel like a dead end road not to believe in anything just a thought. I choose to be a Christian if there is a God and I know there is what did I lose but if your wrong you lose your soul I will be praying for you

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      June 7, 2013 @ 12:12 am

      YOUR Republican Party?? Who put you in charge? Anyone is free to join the Republican Party. Just because they don’t all share your views does not give you the right to put down those you don’t agree with. And mythical God? You are in for a very rude awakening. Those who know God personally know that He is very real. I hope that you will find that out before it is too late.

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    • moonshineComment by moonshine
      June 7, 2013 @ 4:14 pm

      What is your Republican party? A bunch of tired, career-orientd, establishment politicans who will consistently lose to the Democrats because they are RINOS (socially liberals but economiucally conservative). There is not much difference between them and the liberal Democrats. Certainly not enough for a low information voter, or even dumb bunny Nancy Polesi, to discern.
      If conversatives don’t get control of the Republican party it is doomed, and will fade into history. We cannot keep running these moderate RINOS and expect to win. The Tea Party is the only hope we have of regaining the White House and the Senate.
      They are the only hope of restoring our liberties under the Constitution. Keep your head in the sand and these radical, Muslim-loving, anti-Amerivan, Communist liars will make you a serf of their State, devoid of religious devotion to God. If this sounds good to you, so be it.
      If not, take the fight to them, and not your fellow Americans.
      Time is wasting and the enemy is growing stronger, so make up your mind. Stand and Fight or surrender. God Bless America.

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    • miffmoleComment by miffmole
      June 7, 2013 @ 6:17 pm

      Look around. this ain’t no country for old white men anymore. Current day USA is a cultural mosaic of recent immigrants doing jobs that multi generational Americans shun. These individuals vote liberal just like the highly educated and wealthy, why? minorities feel better served by left of center politicians and the upper class by and large feel the government should do more for the lower classes. My Republican party is a few clicks right of center, fiscally conservative and socially compassionate. Yup, I’m a rarity but, if there were more of me, this party would stand a better chance at regaining power. Bless America? That’s non partisan and I stand with my hand on my heart.

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      June 7, 2013 @ 6:34 pm

      Well, well, well MiffyMole Your true hateful colors are showing. Take your hate back to the Daily Kook where you belong, as you are the very thing you come here to rail against. This country belongs to ALL Americans regardless of color, and that includes old white men and Christians as well.

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    • miffmoleComment by miffmole
      June 7, 2013 @ 9:41 pm

      Jeeezus! Can you read Mr Voter? What is hateful in my comment?? I am a proponent of inclusion! Perhaps I should hold a class??

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      June 7, 2013 @ 10:03 pm

      miffmole…well, it’s a good thing there is only one of you. The Republican Party would be much better off without liberals like you. You are a prime example of what the Republican Party has very sadly become. You claim to be a proponent of inclusion, yet you hate old white men and Christians.

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    • miffmoleComment by miffmole
      June 7, 2013 @ 10:27 pm

      Good Gawd! there is not one of me, there are tens of thousands! Read again, I am right of center, I am NOT a liberal. I AM an old white man?? I have no problem with any religious beliefs as I am inclusive! Don’t pray for me rather, welcome the 21st century.

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      June 7, 2013 @ 10:45 pm

      Miffymole – I suggest you reread your own posts for IF, and I say IF, you actually are what you purport to be you need to learn how to express yourself and opinions without giving the impression that you have an intense dislike for old white men and Christians. You seem to have come here with a combative attitude which is not conducive to engaging in any kind of meaningful dialogue with others.

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  40. bna42Comment by bna42
    June 6, 2013 @ 6:02 pm

    Who decided the speech needed to be approved?

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  41. JDZComment by JDZ
    June 6, 2013 @ 7:02 pm

    If the USA started out as a Muslim country how would we look today? My guess is that there would not be any Christians, Jews, or Atheists in the country. No infidels would be allowed…period. Forget about individual freedoms as there would be none. Forget about women having any rights. The government would be run by men…by force…not by any form of democracy.

    Maybe America made some fundamental mistakes that are now coming back to bite us and has set up the decline of the country from being the greatest country in the history of the world.

    Maybe if America had just stuck with its original Judeo-Christian foundation and screened out anyone who wanted to immigrate to our country who did not subscribe to our Christian foundation, Bill of Rights, and Constitution, we would be better off over the long run. We would be more homogeneous and less culturally complex. The idea of America being a “melting pot” does not seem to be working out as well as we hoped. Instead of a melting pot leading to some new positive form of homogeneity, we have created numerous ethnic and cultural onclaves with each seeking to improve their lot at the expense of the others. Finding a rational middle ground or compromise on social or ideological differences is getting harder and harder. The primary mindset of modern immigrants and temporary residents to America seems to be the exploitation of the advantages of our country without the willingness to commit to the preservation of these advantages.

    On top of that, under the Obama administration, we have the most politically divided country in our history which is not working out very well for the country at large. What his cultural and religious background coupled with his socialist/communist ideology has done to the country is create very severe rifts between Americans that were never before as pronounced as they are now. We are a country divided as never before.

    It is a sad thing to watch and experience. Then, when a young man giving his valedictorian speech decides to trash his prepared, but approved, speech which probably had the typical comments to outgoing seniors we all have heard numerous times, and say the “Lord’s Prayer” and this gets the national attention it is getting, it is just another example of the latent turmoil that exists in the hearts of our citizens.

    Something is going to happen, sooner or later, and it is going to be bad before it has a chance to be good. I am old enough that I may be able to skate through it..but not my kids and grandkids.

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  43. miffmoleComment by miffmole
    June 6, 2013 @ 8:58 pm

    Wow. My first foray into the Christian right has been an eye opener. I suppose kingster, you have never considered that one can be a fiscal conservative and little else? I am very tolerant however, I am no liberal. I am spiritual as I believe in humanity and reject extremism where ever it may be. I am a citizen of the world. I believe that whatever happen across this globe affects us all, just as I believe what ever WE do affects us all. I abhor imperialism but, I believe in defending our rights and freedoms without the interference of a mythical god. I will continue to advocate the responsible use of public suffrage to benefit the public at large. My conservative world is inclusive. Ya’ll need to look up the definition of conservative.

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    • bulldogComment by bulldog
      June 6, 2013 @ 11:12 pm

      Miffmole you have used the words mythical god in your posts. That is your opinion, but you have no way to back those words up. In my experience God is very real. Just because you don’t believe, and have had no religious experience revealing God’s presence, does not make it so. If you don’t want to believe fine don’t, but maybe you should chose you words better.

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  44. egosumlamiaComment by egosumlamia
    June 6, 2013 @ 9:13 pm

    Typical Christian, cherry picking his scripture, he skipped the first part of Matthew 6:
    5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

    The message this young man sent was “it’s OK to lie, deceive and break the rules, because I am a Christian.” With all the accolades he is receiving, I wonder how many more rules he will be allowed to break, as a professed Christian?

    As Valedictorian he showed his class that if your number 1, you can do what you want, regardless. What doors did he shut for future Valedictorians? They certainly can’t give their word as a Christian, this one lied.

    Thou shalt not lie..

    He knew the rules, he accepted the rules, he wrote a speech and it got approval and then he decided to get the spotlight on himself and forget about his class. He wasn’t under God’s conviction, he was under religious adults convictions.

    He did more harm to his faith, with deception and lies, then any atheist could have ever attempted.

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      June 7, 2013 @ 12:04 am

      egosumlamia…You are showing your ignorance of the Bible and prayer. What you posted was what Jesus said in admonishment to a Pharisee who was proud of the way he prayed. We are to be humble when we pray. There are other places in the Bible that command prayer at all times…pray without ceasing, etc. You would like that if Christians only prayed in secret so you wouldn’t have to deal with it. But God encourages prayer everywhere. We are to thank God for our food when we eat, pray for guidance when needed, pray for others, etc. None of this need to be done in secret.
      And you are also clueless about Roy Costner’s prayer. He did not lie, deceive and break the rules! Our Constitution gives us freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion, as you would like. It also gives us freedom of speech, which he was exercising. You really need to read the Constitution. No, he did not do anything to harm his faith. Just the opposite.

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      June 7, 2013 @ 12:07 am

      Muslims believe it is OK–even commendable to lie to infidels to advance their cause of taking over the world–but I don’t hear you slamming THEIR religion. He did not lie OR deceive. He simply stood up for his rights. There IS a difference that usually escapes the politically correct robots.

      And how do YOU know he “accepted” the rules? Probably he was given little CHOICE about “the rules”–that’s how tyranny and religious persecution works.

      You are apparently OK with people having to get permission from some “collective” authority for the right to speak. An American who understands his/her rights would not think that way. We were born free with inalienable rights, and it is not the purvey of a school board, principle or President, for that matter, to presume to tell us what we may or may not say. Nor should we lie down for being required to get our speech “approved” before making it.

      This is not an issue of religion, it is an issue of the rights and heritage of every American that are under attack today by the very government officials who stood up and swore an OATH to preserve and protect that very Constitution and the rights it guarantees us. If you want to talk about “deception”, how about we talk about THAT one, because that was a real WHQPPER! As I said before, you seem all too ready to just give your rights away, and to help those who would take them from all of us. Why is that?

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    • navy30Comment by navy30
      June 7, 2013 @ 12:22 am

      Justme33,
      Please help me understand this focus on “not freedom from religion”. What exactly do you mean by that? I addressed this in some detail in a post above but I would like to hear what the logic is behind that statement.

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    • justme33Comment by justme33
      June 7, 2013 @ 10:22 pm

      navy30…Huh? Freedom from religion means just what it says…ALL mention of God, the Bible, etc. completely removed from our country. Our founding fathers intended for us to be able to be free to worship as we wish. The Constitution gives us that right. But our freedom of religion has been taken away. No mention of God is allowed anymore in public.

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  45. pats75Comment by pats75
    June 6, 2013 @ 10:11 pm

    Regardless of what is said by atheists, agnostics and pseudo conservatives, I am awed and impressed by the courage shown by Roy Costner and as one poster put it, I have a new hero today. God bless Roy and his family and prayers for freebird and miffmole, they need someone to pray for them.

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  49. sacheveraljames42Comment by sacheveraljames42
    June 7, 2013 @ 7:17 am

    Good! This is the way to strike back at the left. Mr. Costner should be given all the accolades he can muster. The very context of the Lord’s Prayer sows the meaning of this nation and hooray for those that have the courage to say so in the face of adversity. God Bless.

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