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Sheriffs Can 'Inspect' Homes for Gun Storage under Democrat Bill

By Bobby Eberle

Is this just the beginning? Not only is Big Brother watching, but if the Democrats in Washington State have their way, sheriffs will have the power to "inspect" homes to make sure people are storing their firearms properly. What's next?

As reported in The Washington Times, the bill "would allow local sheriffs to enter homes of gun owners to ensure their weapons are properly stored."

The bill, pushed by Democrats, allows police to search where and how assault weapons are stored — as well as how safely they are stored, according to its text, listed in the state’s online legislative directory as SB 5737-2013-14.

The bill reads: “In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person in possession shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.”

Infowars.com notes that the Democrats are now backpedaling from their position because, "if enacted, the law will allow police to search without a court-issued search warrant the homes of owners of legally purchased firearms."

Sen. Adam Kline of Seattle, a Democrat who is described by the Seattle Times as “hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues,” sponsored the legislation without reading the eight page bill. “I made a mistake,” he told the newspaper. “I frankly should have vetted this more closely.”

The primary sponsor of the bill, Sen. Ed Murray, also a Democrat from Seattle, condemned the bill subsection authorizing police to search homes without a warrant. He said the plan to harass and intimidate legal gun owners is probably unconstitutional.

What are these people thinking? Will they put together any left wing garbage bill as long as there is no uproar? Do we really have to be on guard 24-7 to make sure America is still America? I guess so.

These people have no sense at all. They are violating the freedoms that make us Americans, and even worse, they are doing it all in the name of trying to "solve a problem." Well, here's a message for those on the left, passing bills that make it harder for law-abiding citizens to possess firearms only gives criminals an even bigger advantage.

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  2. Johnny MayhemComment by Johnny Mayhem
    February 19, 2013 @ 4:58 pm

    And on the other hand I saw this on Drudge Report just a bit ago. You can read the whole thing there.

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) – A Missouri lawmaker is proposing to send colleagues to prison for introducing gun control legislation — a plan that even its sponsor acknowledges has no chance of passage but nonetheless highlights the increasingly strident tone of gun measures in Missouri’s generally pro-gun Legislature.

    Rep. Mike Leara said Tuesday that he considers his bill a statement of principle. It would make lawmakers guilty of a felony punishable by up to four years in prison if they introduce legislation restricting gun rights.

    “I have no illusions about the bill making it through the legislative process, but I want it to be clear that the Missouri House will stand in defense of the people’s constitutional right to keep and bear arms,” Leara, a Republican from suburban St. Louis, said in a written statement. He declined further comment.

    . . . . . . . . (skipped over content)

    The proposal criminalizing gun control legislation comes as a Missouri House committee was scheduled to consider a Republican proposal Tuesday that would nullify all federal gun laws. A Senate panel is also expected to conduct a hearing Tuesday on a state constitutional amendment broadening gun rights.

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    • PATRIOTComment by PATRIOT
      February 20, 2013 @ 9:48 am

      The majority of Democrats are socialists with some bordering on a communist agenda. The Democrats have no respect for our Constitution and are no longer concerned with exposing their ultimate goal for the 2nd amendment. Democrat Progressives intend to dominate every aspect of our lives and they cannot do it with an armed citizenry. Progressives fear an armed citizenry and will continue to legislate until they have firearms registration. The federal government will use registration data bases to carry out confiscation when the political atmosphere supports it. Progressives (Democrats)are enemies of the traditional American way of life.

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    • sb24Comment by sb24
      February 20, 2013 @ 9:59 am

      No, the rest of us, unlike the closed-minded cult of paranoids here, know that the Constitution is a document that consists of more than one archaic afterthought that has outlived its usefulness. Maybe when the next Adam Lanza finds his way to your town, you will still be around after the carnage you all enable, and then wonder why nobody made sure his mother wasn’t subject to an inspection (like your frequently used trite comparison of death toys to cars) that she kept her killing utensils locked away from a mentally ill person. Or, as in a REAL ideal world, nobody who has a family member who is mentally ill would be allowed to own guns. And for the rest of you, don’t bother buying lottery tickets, since your juvenile paranoid delusional obsession with guns over life free from threat of random death leaves us all with better odds of being shot to death than winning money.

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    • buffalomasterComment by buffalomaster
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:01 am

      Remember this is Washington state, what these devious legislators would do and have attempted to do in the past is to make the inspection a “voluntary” requirment just as we have to submit our fingerprints to our masters in order to “earn” our “right” to recieve a CPL. We are required to surrender one freedom to in an attempt to retain another…..An example of this is seen in King county’s land use ordanance to eliminate land from being used by its citizens.. A simplified version is that if you own 5+ acres and you wanted to build on it, remodel your house of build a barn you were required to sign over the development rights to 66.66% of the land into openspace that you were not allowed to use in any way with the remaining land subject to all the enviromental restrictions that they could devise to eliminate its use as well. If you refused to sign this “requirment” no building permits would be issued…….I wanted to build a barn but the required studies for seismic, wetlands, slide zones, significant trees surveys, wetland plants survey, soils and geologic studies, and detailed topo map delivered, (all required to be done by engineers and supervised and directed by a county staff member who’s time was billed to me at $95.00/Hr) , cost more than the barn I wanted to build. It is about time that someone imposed a punishment for attempting to pass these laws which violate the constitution so blatently….

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:48 am

      @sb24 –

      Wow, you really have been brain washed. You do such an excellent job parroting your indoctrination.

      I am very impressed with it. WELL DONE!

      Now for reality – They want you to believe you are in danger – but in all actuality, gun related accidents and deaths are on the lower end of the concern. Actually a lot lower than your indoctrination teacher want you to know.

      First – Did you know, if you are capable of thinking for yourself – Alcohol accident/deaths are 100 X’s higher than gun related accidents/deaths? Now I want you to ponder that, if your indoctrination will allow you to do that: Alcohol accident/deaths are 100 x’s higher.

      Cigarettes accident/deaths are 50+ x’s higher than gun related accidents/deaths.

      Did you know that Airplane accidents/deaths are even just slightly higher than guns?

      Did you know, non-alcohol car related accidents/deaths are 3x’s higher than gun related accidents/deaths.

      Did you know bicycle, the peddle kind; accidents/deaths are just slightly higher than gun related accident/deaths?

      So, where is your indoctrination over those things that have a higher – TO MUCH HIGHER accident/death rate than guns?

      And yes – these statistics are EASILY found on-line. :)

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    • PATRIOTComment by PATRIOT
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:03 am

      sb24, I do not normally bother to respond to progressive propaganda. You however are an exception. If anyone on this board is dilusional, it is without any question you. Do you have the mental capacity to understand that criminals do not follow gun control laws? Ever gun in in America can be removed from the possession of law-abiding owners and your chances of escaping mayhem will not be reduced. Your threat comes from criminals, not from law-abiding gun owners! Your best chance to escape mayhem is the presence of law-abiding armed citizens. I tell you this through experience, as I once fought off a criminal attack with a concealed handgun.

      It does not matter if my mother, brother or anyone else is killed with a gun by a criminal. I stand by the Constitution that provides us the greatest freedoms the world has to offer, including the right to keep and bear arms.

      It is obvious you do not respect the Constitution and consider it to be a living document which is not what the founders intended. You and people like you are directly responsible for the destruction of traditional America.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:15 am

      Some might say Leara is just grandstanding and wasting time by proposing legislation he admits has no chance of passage, but I think it’s sending the right message in very strong terms. It would be great if a large number of legislators co-sponsored the bill to emphasize the point even more.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:25 am

      @ Patriot -

      He/She posted similar “cut/paste” brain washing lessons in other threads. No they are not capable of thinking for themselves. (I think it’s part of the Brain Washing Program – They get bad headaches if they start to think for themselves.)

      I had on “Progressive” (Obama supporter) tell me – “When the laws get passed, criminals will obey the laws, because Obama said to.” <- I kid you not!

      That's the problem, they (Sb24 and like minded) cannot understand how anyone would/could disobey Obama's laws. It is beyond their understanding (programing).

      They have been programed – IF you do not obey and copy/paste exactly what you were trained (programed) to do – those evil people will 'get you and your family' …

      So what if the statistical odds are greater of being hit by a car or bicycle. I mean, sb24 likely could get hit by a flying brick, before even seing a gun related accident/death in person. (Not that I would wish that on anyone.)

      Plus here is the other part of the equation – the MEDIA is partially to blame for this. Because the people who commit these crimes see the "Fame" that is bestowed on them by the MSM … it feeds this kind of behavior … it really does.

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    • rustypatComment by rustypat
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:30 am

      sb24 …

      If you believe that those who hold the Constitution in high regard are paranoid, and that the Constitution is outdated … have all your anti-Constitution politicians propose an Amendment to it and see if it gets ratified.

      Obama-Nation is an Abomination.
      http://www.openbible.info/topics/abomination

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    • mysticComment by mystic
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:34 am

      Clear and concise posts; always a joy to read. Well done folks!

      …save one. For SB24, : congratulations on using the very archaic founding principle that many have spilled blood over for you to use your Free Speech rights, other wise known in that antiquated document, our Constitution, as “YOUR” first amendment right to free speech. Lovely use of it btw.

      As for your well rhetoric laden post, I have only two things to add. 1. You obviously are young and still believe that all human characteristics can somehow be loved out of human beings, taught out of human beings and or a combination of both. If this thought were true, or based in any fact, we would be reveling within a heightened sense of Utopia as I post this, with no need for snark, throwing/hurling of insults, much less even becoming peevish over a difference of opinion.

      2. There is absolutely no way to stop criminals and nut cases with murderous intent from doing harm to themselves or others. All the ink to paper laws we can possibly create will not stop one act of violence. Taking ever gun and smelting it down to iron dollies would not stop murder, rape, robbery, Ponzi Schemes, abuse, torture, war, or arguments that go to cuffs. Not one law will magically pop up in front of said bad guy and calmly explain how said bad guy can not do said bad thing. That is magic fairy dust kinda thinking that simply does not help the situation, in fact it hurts the thinking process to critically analyze and common sense problem solve for the given situation.

      I am impressed that you have passion and a belief in your opinions. Good for you! I am impressed that you are able to share these views in a non echo chamber…and again, good for you! The more we have open conversations outside of a echo chambers, the more we may accomplish. My hope is that common sense will rule the day and all American’s will regain a sense of security enabling them to Pursue Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

      May you continue to dive into your studies with verve and zest. May you be an asset to your family, community and country. I wish you well on your journey to full understanding and honest critical realism within the topic.

      ~Mystic

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    • haley12Comment by haley12
      February 20, 2013 @ 2:18 pm

      SB24,
      you can give peace a chance – I’ll cover you (with my AR) in case it doesn’t work out!

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    • oleteabagComment by oleteabag
      February 20, 2013 @ 4:00 pm

      SB24, IDIOTS like you, who suffer from the delusion that our Constitution is “archaic” and “no longer relevent” need to review the history of Soviet Russia, North Korea, Nazi Germany, etc. etc. ALL of these totalitarian regimes BEGAN their tyranny by disarming the populace. It is NOT paranoid to learn from history. It is foolish not to. You Democrat PUKES would throw away our Constitutional rights with both hands–in exchange for WHAT?

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 4:59 pm

      sb24, I don’t believe you are real. I believe you are a phoney. I believe you are either 1)One of BO’s 3500 newly hired internet propagandists just out doing your job, trying to see which one of the absurd sound bites you guys come up with will float with the common, lowly class, or 2)An a$$ wipe that just likes to say stuff to get peoples reaction. Because I have a hard time believing any real, sane American can actually believe the kind of **** that comes out of your mouth. That may be your problem…not an American and not sane. But I am betting its behind door number 1. Whatever the case, take this to whoever your masters are…you’re wasting your time here. Regulars to this forum are too educated, too wise and too sane for you to get any good results. Know that WE know what is coming, and who the responsible parties are. It is not going to go well with your type. You keep wasting time because its not all quite in place yet. But that is your mistake, because the longer you delay, the more Americans wake up. I am listening as I type to Sherrifs across the USA telling you and BO that hell NO, they aren’t going to enforce laws that are anti-constitutional. You don’t understand us. Because you are not one of us! Take one final message to whoever, your mommy maybe. How slimy and utterly disgusting that you and this poor excuse for anykind of a leader thinks we are not aware of these things to the point that you can throw propaganda at us and we will not realize it. We are so much smarter than you, and also getting ready.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 7:37 pm

      2 SB24 -

      I was asked this by another forum and was at a loss, that I had to explain it:

      My above post about Alcohol accident/deaths …. and so on.

      First off *any* death is sad, I do not want anyone to think I am ‘not concerned’ ….

      But Gun Related accident/deaths – are very much at the low end of this serious problem:

      Let me explain – (for the “sb24 out there)

      So, for every 1 GUN related accident/death – there are 100+ alcohol related accidents/deaths.

      Now (sb24) think about that – 100x’s more are going to experience an Alcohol Related Accident/death – than a Gun related. 100+ MORE people/children are going to suffer from accident/death, related to alcohol use.

      Why are you not crying and screaming “bloody murder” over alcohol and wanting even tougher laws on that?

      I am asking that very seriously.

      I mean if you are seriously concerned about Accidents/deaths of humans (and children are NOT exempt from Alcohol related accident/deaths) In FACT they are far more injured/killed by this than guns!

      Now Cigarettes accident/deaths are 50+ x’s higher than gun related accidents/deaths.

      Think about that – as I break it down for you: out of every 1 (one) single accident and/or gun related death – 50+ people suffer from and die from Cigarettes!

      Where is your CRY FOR OUTRAGE? Do you even realize how many kids are burned and have to live the rest of their lives w/those cigarette scars???

      Sb24, et all — where is your cry for greater control, more restrictive laws and such for Cigarettes? I mean, go visit a burn unit of a hospital and see the damage from a cigarette that caught a house on fire.

      Cars – 3x’s higher — so for every 1 gun related accident/death – there are 3+ related accidents/deaths from cars. This is NOT counting alcohol as the cause – just simple accidents non-DUI related. It would actually be MUCH higher IF we put: Alcohol/Drug use behind this stat.

      Why are you not calling for more control there? I mean 3x’s as many … than guns.

      Peddle Bikes – have a 2+ times higher risk of accidents/deaths than guns! So where is the cry for greater control and stiffer laws ….???

      See? There is little to no danger with relationship to guns as there are Bikes – Cars – Cigarettes – Alcohol and don’t get me started with Skateboards – Cellphones and such as I think you would be surprised by those stats!

      You are told “GUNS” are dangerous and yes they are. But in the “BIG PICTURE”, they are BELOW Bicycle accident/deaths. Cellphone injuries are actually higher than guns! (I just looked it up.)

      So SB24 – PUT DOWN THAT CELLPHONE! I MEAN IT! It is a hazard worse than a gun!

      Do you see what has happened to you?

      You are programed to make a “MOUNTAIN” out of a “mole hill” in the big picture of this REALITY.

      When I posted the above, specifically in another forum, one of the Gun Control Supporters suddenly realized he had been dooped! He realized, as he looked up the Alcohol -vs- Guns, in his case … 100x’s more people die (including children) he went – W. T. F. ???? Especially when he saw how many people have gun related accidents/deaths – he was just a tad angry that he was not told – THE WHOLE TRUTH – He is now no longer supporting Gun Control Laws.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 20, 2013 @ 7:43 pm

      As long as you’re busy calling everyone names sb24 and running them down for not seeing the dazzling logic and truth of your comments, it’s amazing that someone with your obvious superior mentality and foresight is an idiot.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 8:49 pm

      Oh, sb24 – as the last post in this thread below, as of my post here -

      I have not even touched SPORTS RELATED ACCIDENT/INJURIES/DEATH – do you know that there are some sports that are 50X’s more higher than gun related? So for every 1 gun related A/I/D – there are 50+ in some sports.

      OMG! Where is the outradge? (BTW – Most of these are related to kids under the age of 18 years of age.)

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    • thecitizenComment by thecitizen
      February 24, 2013 @ 2:46 pm

      @ Patriot: It is obvious you do not respect the Constitution and consider it to be a living document which is not what the founders intended.

      First, I agree totally with the premise of your post re sb24. That said, I offer a point of order.

      Actually, in their wisdom the founders perceived the eventual need to adapt and change over time and provided just the mechanism by which to do so. It is called the – Amendment. Which in effect, if executed properly, does make the Constitution a ‘living document’.

      However, impatient with and/or stymied by the amendment process activist judges subvert the Constitution with judicial diktat and politicians do the same thing with sleight of hand or executive diktat and then piously refer to working with a ‘living constitution’. Nonsense.

      Of course the judges and politicians full well know that for the common man to go up against the full weight of the US govt to try to fight all these violations and/or usurpations of the Constitution (short of a revolution) is like trying to beat back the wind – with a hammer.

      They have the – power – and they want to ensure that they KEEP that power. The only sure way of keeping that power indefinitely is . . . to disarm the citizenry.

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  3. BillzillaComment by Billzilla
    February 19, 2013 @ 9:15 pm

    “Not only is Big Brother watching, but if the Democrats in Washington State have their way, sheriffs will have the power to “inspect” homes to make sure people are storing their firearms properly.”

    They can try, but it sure could get messy!

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      February 20, 2013 @ 9:20 am

      Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    • thecitizenComment by thecitizen
      February 25, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

      @ Illuminatuo: Investigate the license and scope of the Patriot Act (signed by GWB, 2006). In the name of security (against terrorists ?), at the federal level the PA in effect eviscerates the 4th Amendment.

      State versions of the PA avail themselves to many of the same powers as the feds.

      Check it out.

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  4. 7papa7Comment by 7papa7
    February 20, 2013 @ 8:46 am

    This is just another in a myriad of reasons why the democrats aka marxists must go. This borders on one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. If you have a weapon for the purpose of defending yourself how dumb is it to have it locked up. Why would you want to have to go to a gun safe, open it while some clown has broken into your home and will shoot you if he gets half a chance. Once again we see absolute stupidity running wild with the democrats.

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:40 am

      This is the scary part of the story …

      One legislator claims he ‘didn’t read the bill’ before co-sponsoring it. (what a waste as a legislator).

      The one who submitted the bill says somebody on his staff put that clause in there without his knowledge. (what a waste as a legislator).

      But … who is that staff member? Who were the staff members who actually wrote Obamacare?

      Who ARE these unelected people who work in the background … CAUSING (ignorant) legislators to do things that hurt this country.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:09 pm

      VV, most of these bills are written by outside thinktanks for hire, staffed overwhelmingly if not completely with Soros funded goons and goonettes. The politicians really have no idea what is in most of them. The good old American way, no?

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    • buckeeComment by buckee
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:11 pm

      Not only that, but the perp(s) will be jacked up on adrenaline or worse, while the victim will be unprepared, maybe half asleep and disoriented. He or she is fighting against odds even in the best of cases. To hamstring the victim further with legislation will be as good as taking the gun away altogether, which since they cannot make that happen, the intrusive laws will work just fine. That is, if their goal is to get the victim killed.

      And the leftists are just crazy enough to want to see this happen. The author is right. Vigilance against these tyrants is now a full time 24/7 mission.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 20, 2013 @ 8:10 pm

      If you’ll pardon my faulty memory, this would totally escape the humor capability of sb24. To wit:

      (Supposedly) a raging liberal challenged a police officer with the comment “You have a gun don’t you”. To which the officer responded that yes he did have a gun.

      Then the liberal said “And you have bullets too don’t you” and the officer again admitted that he did. “So, you have the capability to be a murderer” was the smug comment of the liberal gun hater.

      Then the officer put the slam dunk on her with “Yes I have the tools to be a murderer, but I’m not and you have the equipment to be a prostitute. You’re not one are you?”

      Paraphrased, but if you can dig through and forgive my poor recollection and writing/typing skills, that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      April 3, 2013 @ 9:04 am

      Its amazing Vietnamvet. Not only have these “progressive” wannabe traitors bought into all the anti gun hot air there is, they follow Obama like lemmings and they’ve even learned from comrade Obama to blame anything and everything on someone else. The aforementioned “legislator” blaming the clause on one of his staff is a perfect example of the cowards we have in congress. He’s a lying swine.

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  5. jb80538Comment by jb80538
    February 20, 2013 @ 8:50 am

    I believe it would be unconstitutional for someone without a warrant to come in to your home to look for weapons. good luck with that bill.

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    • usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:30 am

      You believe?????? Why in hell don’t you know???
      Graduated from HS last 20 years? No wonder you “believe”

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    • lowlifeComment by lowlife
      February 20, 2013 @ 4:20 pm

      It is patently unconstitutional, but, in today’s world, that doesn’t mean much. Most of what government is doing today is outside of its legal authority, but political-hack, moron judges uphold nearly all of it. We have to give these “legislators” hell because the courts are too politicized and corrupt to do their job.

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  6. lwessonComment by lwesson
    February 20, 2013 @ 8:54 am

    Well well well, so the mask has finally come off revealing the bare Skull Face of the LEFT. I have yet another bet to collect on from friends who said that I was too suspicious, too distrusting, that something like this is just a Hollywood storyboard. Nope.

    Info Wars? Interesting. I am writing a friend in Washington State for his on the scene impression, but this is a warning for all of us. The Bill of Rights is pretty much meaningless to those yielding power.

    “shall not be infringed” is simply tossed aside per the Second Amendment. The First Amendment has also been ignored by His Majesty. Of recent, it seems that it is not just the Taliban, but people like us, Bobby, that are the enemy. Freedom of Speech? Outdated and not helpful for HOPE & CHANGE for the Kommisars in charge.

    Have yet to check completely, but I was sent a note, that our charming Government workers that target shoot with hollow points, have been sent targets with images of people like me and the Missus… Humm? Thats just crazy… or is it?

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:16 pm

      NOT crazy! I guess we’re even…I’m shooting hollow points at a target of a dark complected fella with a diaper on his head.

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    • lwessonComment by lwesson
      February 21, 2013 @ 7:50 am

      spindizzy:

      I have contacted my friend in Washington State. He has also read about the targets of people like you, me, even mothers holding a baby… All of this is part of a desensitizing process for His Majesty’s Army to cheerfully shoot, freely, at us, making Hope & Change a reality. (Eggs have to be cracked to make an Omelet so said some Commie.)

      And on that cheery note, His Highness is ramping up his efforts for a Private, SS like Army that he talked about, and the fawning tingle up the leg Communist addled News Media, IGNORED this!

      My friends who used to scoff at me, “Oh you are too paranoid, bla bla bal, you are not trusting enough, have shut up, oh, and have paid up! They are good people but just could not wrap their minds around all of this, as to do so, breaks the GRAND ILLUSION that all will go along as it has… Rome went through this… as sage observers like Cicero laid out clear warnings.

      Even in post Czarist Russia, with Bolsheviks running about, many had the notion that in Ancient Mother Russia, all would calm down, and life would actually improve. In areas that the Reds had accomplished complete power, gun registration, confiscation, executions went full bore. Russia at least had a well armed populace, and this allowed the anti RED factions (The Whites), to fight back. And fight they did until unfortunately defeated. At least they did not go down in a whimper.

      NOW, we are being WARNED by Russians! They KNOW their Commies, saying that we have Free Ranging Communists everywhere. They plea to us to NOT submit to registration as this leads to confiscation. The new PRAVDA has written about this… Cheers!

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 21, 2013 @ 8:20 am

      Yeah, I know. It scares the bejesus out of me at what I think I see coming to this land. But like I said, more and more Americans are waking up. I like to think there are enough Patriots in the armed forces that haven’t been purged, killed, bought off, or converted, to not let this country go. I read a lot of gripes about our law enforcement community, but actually County Sheriffs, who are elected locally, are probably one of our best allies in all of this. People, we have to stop electing all these bozo’s at every level. Thats where a lot of these schmucks start out. lwesson, have you read anything to the affect of a Soros initiative to get as many of his gang in as Sec. of State’s around the country? We need to stop blindly voting for unknown names on the ballot, regardless of party affiliation, at even small, local elections. Damn, just like Germany all over again!

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    • lwessonComment by lwesson
      February 21, 2013 @ 8:40 am

      No I have not spindizzy, but I would not be surprised per Soros & his evil followers.

      They are effectively using what the Founders feared, democracy, and the poorly educated populace (dead and somewhat alive) to achieve their Communist agenda. Soros could put an ELVIS Pressme up for election, and ELVIS would win due to the name. I think it was you that noted this Republic killer problem on this thread. Enjoy reading your posts.

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    • KBBComment by KBB
      February 21, 2013 @ 11:43 pm

      “…lwesson, have you read anything to the affect of a Soros initiative to get as many of his gang in as Sec. of State’s around the country?….”

      spindizzy, you are right on the money. This Soros thing is real and it is called the “SoS Project” (SoS stands for Secretary of State). When Bush was re-elected in 2004, George Soros was enraged, and vowed to never allow another Repub to get into the WH. So he funded and started up an effort all across the country called the SoS Project, to get Democrats elected to positions of Sec of State in every state in the country. Soros knew and knows that it’s not who voters vote for, but instead who COUNTS the votes that makes the winner. And SoS-es all across the country are the ones who determine re-counts, who make the decision to accept “lost” ballots that have been “found” in car trunks that just happen to be heavily marked for the Democratic candidates, who make the decision for when the voter booths are closed, who make the decision not to count military votes that “arrived too late to be counted”, who preside over the election day workers (google the Veritas Project and see what Democrat voters do on election day). This is a very serious effort put forth every election cycle by Soros that started in 2008, and it really makes a difference. We need to be aware of this SoS Project, and counter it in every way we can by making sure we vote for the Repub candidate for SoS in every state.

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    • lwessonComment by lwesson
      February 22, 2013 @ 7:00 am

      Thank you KBB. We were discussing this last night, and a friend had heard of this insidious plan.

      Stalin once said, “It is not how many votes you get, but who counts the votes.”

      My query is, just what happened to the Republicans in pointing out voter fraud. True the Vote, here in Houston, expressed something about some agreement via a court settlement per the Republicans, that they could not contest… If this is so and not an “Urban Legend”, the Republicans have just played Russian Roulette with an automatic.

      Will pass the word, KBB.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 22, 2013 @ 7:46 am

      And how is Soros doing with that, do you know KBB? Who does Ohio, for example, have as its SoS? There was SO much fraud in this election that I am very doubtful of that 51%. And we have no mainstream media trying to keep things honest! Soros has them in his pocket too. And tons of money. And many of the nations judges, local to federal. The deck is really stacked against us.

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    • KBBComment by KBB
      February 26, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

      Comment by KBB
      February 23, 2013 @ 1:35 am
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      lwesson: …My query is, just what happened to the Republicans in pointing out voter fraud….
      lwesson, first off, thank you for passing along the info on SoS. As to your query above, you have touched on something that must embarrass and anger conservatives everywhere, because it reveals the astounding stupidity and weakness of the GOP. In 1982, they were battered and intimidated by the Dems into signing away their rights to ever – forever – contest any suspected voter fraud at the national level by Dems! Notice at the link below that what the Repubs were “alleged” to have done is standard voting procedures of the Dems today (remember the New Black Panther voter intimidations?). To make matters worse, the judge involved in 1982 has long since retired, but he comes out of retirement every election cycle for the single purpose to re-apply that signed pledge! Read this and then go to the link:

      …The RNC allegedly created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters and, then, including individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls. The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner….
      http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civil-Procedure/Democratic-National-Committee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975

      http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-gop-can-not-legally-help-stop-vote-fraud/

      Trial Court Judge Dickinson Debevoise
      …Democrats alleged Republicans were trying intimidate minority voters in New Jersey and brought the legal action. The RNC, inexplicably, decided to agree to a consent decree before a Democrat-appointed judge rather than fight the claims. The judge, Dickinson Debevoise, appointed by Jimmy Carter, later retired, but decided he would continue to control the case….
      http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/gop-legally-barred-from-fighting-vote-fraud/

      ************

      spindizzy, not sure who is SoS in Ohio, but there was plenty of voter fraud committed by Dems there and elsewhere across the country, so it’s likely they have a Dem SoS in Ohio to facilitate that fraud. Read and then check at the link:

      …in visiting the Democrat advocacy groups in Ohio, they were organized, motivated and purposeful in getting out their vote as was witnessed by the long line of Somali and Ethiopian voters bussed in to polling places…
      http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-gop-can-not-legally-help-stop-vote-fraud/

      FYI – Dems tried very hard to get a Dem in the SoS slot here in CA with Damon Dunn, currently registered at that time as a Democrat in FL and OK, and running here in CA as a Republican. Dunn’s Republican opponent filed a lawsuit against him for fraudulently running as a Repub while registered in 2 other states as a Dem, but the corrupt CA judge denied the case. The incumbent candidate, Debra Bowen who ended up being re-elected, is also a Dem. So it was a maneuver by Dunn and Bowen to ensure a greater chance that CA would end up with a Dem SoS, as there was only 1 true Repub opponent. I see that Dunn is now running as a Repub for mayor of Long Beach. He’s probably found a sufficient number of suckers in LB that will believe he’s a Repub and elect him. Read here and see the link:

      Damon Dunn, now running for mayor of long beach.
      http://www.damondunn.com/

      Previously candidate for SoS for CA
      http://vote-ca.org/Intro.aspx?State=CA&Id=CADunnDamon

      The guilt-ridden “Founding Member” of the SierraNevadaCCW fell for Dunn’s BS, obviously blinded by the “historical” nature of Dunn. Read the first post at the link below, then read the second post by Don Retired Officer. Scroll down to continue to read the wisdom of Don Retired Officer. Note in this thread, they noticed a “similarity” in Dunn’s platform to Obamas. No S***.
      http://www.calccw.com/Forums/general-ccw-discussion/14183-secretary-state-candidate.html

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  7. elderalComment by elderal
    February 20, 2013 @ 9:31 am

    In the 1970′s, there was a mass murderer in the Wichita area (BTK: bind, torture, kill) who was not caught until just a few years ago. I unknowingly met him when my family and I arrived in a suburb, Park City, in 1980. The city inspector came by while I was still unloading furniture and told me (among other things) that I had better keep my dogs quiet. I replied that the dogs were there to keep BTK from slipping into my house and that I was sleeping with a gun under my pillow in case BTK did show up. He informed me that discharging a firearm inside the city was against the law. I told him that if I shot BTK, the people of the Wichita area would have a parade in my honor. Having a gun very well may have saved the lives of my family because it was much later discovered that the city inspector was BTK himself !
    Gun control takes protection away from good people and leaves them defenseless to bad people. The high murder rate in Chicago is a direct result of strict gun control laws there.

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    • whodunitComment by whodunit
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:13 am

      Scary story, but so true how sometimes our “officials” are really the crooks themselves . . . Glad you and your family are okay!

      I have several friends who were beaten and abused by their police officer husbands . . . Just because someone has “power” doesn’t mean they should. I believe that was one of the goals of the constitution — to protect us from tyrants in power.

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  8. fabianComment by fabian
    February 20, 2013 @ 9:41 am

    You put your finger on the problem in DC; they don’t read the bills. That’s why we have Obamacare.

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  9. JDZComment by JDZ
    February 20, 2013 @ 9:57 am

    If a senior couple lives alone in a rural area and someone attempts to break into their house, what should they do in the seconds it will take for a determined criminal to break a window or door? How do they protect themselves from physical harm let alone their property? Even if they have a security system and call 911, the minutes for first responders to get to their location is when the worst case scenarios typically happen which can be disastrous and life changing even if survived for this couple.

    This is just one scenario to contemplate and their are thousands of variations of criminal intent where bodily harm is imminent if protective actions are not taken. The recent case of a Mother who protected herself and her children from attack by shooting through the door of the closet they were hiding in is another.

    I believe that every person has the right to defend themselves and their family from physical harm in the manner they choose that best works for them…it is their right. Most families have to figure out how to do that and work it out for themselves taking into consideration their circumstances.

    If I lived on a farm or rural area, the strategy would be different then in an urban area or a secure gated community. However, most solutions involve some form of firearm for it to be effective as guns give the potential victim an “equalizer” as a last resort.

    So, guns should be allowed for those that want them for both sport and protection. I do agree that background checks and registration should be required when guns are purchased in any manner…stores, Internet, etc. We have the laws in place, just enforce them. I grew up in a family of hunters and also served in the military and know how to use guns, but those that have no experience with guns should go to a government sponsored or subcontracted minimal gun training program.

    I also agree with gun laws restricting the sale of clearly described “assault” weapons and associated large capacity weapons, but these specs need to be very clear and unambiguous.

    But…no law enforcement or government inspector should be allowed to enter our homes without a search warrant for ANY reason…period. Inspecting how I might have my guns locked or otherwise is not justification to enter my home and should never be justification for a search warrant.

    And, for the senior couple I described in the beginning, their best case for surviving a home invasion is a home security system, a 911 call, and ready access to a loaded gun as time is critical to survival.

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    • freedixieComment by freedixie
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:32 am

      “background checks and registration should be required when guns are purchased in any manner”
      “I also agree with gun laws restricting the sale of clearly described “assault” weapons and associated large capacity weapons”
      Registration is the first step to confiscation. What is it about this that you can’t understand? It is not the government’s business whether I have guns or not, or how many I have. As long as I am not a danger to society, they need to keep their nose out of my business. As far as “assault” weapons go, and high capacity magazines, ANY restriction on this is infringement. Why should we not have the ability to defend ourselves against numerous attackers? Rifles account for fewer murders than ball bats and knives. Stop swallowing the liberal Kool-Aid. And we have no “assault” weapons. Nobody owns a weapon that jumped up, ran down the street, and assaulted someone. That is a liberal tag put on “scary looking guns” to demonize them. A true “assault “ weapon is a military rifle that shoots 3 rounds per burst. Very few regular citizens have fully automatic weapons due to the government restrictions, licensing , and cost involved. A person’s right to own an AK-47, AR-15, or SKS should not be tampered with. We should be as well armed as those who would attempt to deprive us of our freedom and liberties. What if the colonists only had long bows, slingshots, and clubs to fight the British? This conversation would not even be taking place because there would be no U.S.A., and we would not have guns. But because they were as well armed as the enemy, they were victorious. Our government is the enemy today just as the government was the enemy in 1776. It will continue to be the enemy as long as it continues to encroach on our rights, trash the Constitution, and seek to disarm us.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:16 pm

      Not to pick nits or challenge you in any way freedixie, but a true assault weapon is one that fires multiple rounds with one trigger pull and hold no matter what or how madamn Pelosi describes one. A M15 is (was) not an assault rifle because it fires (or did) one round per one trigger pull no matter how long you hold the trigger down (I don’t know what the new models do). An example of a true assault weapon might be the M16-1A1 (old stuff now). This was the one that was prone to jam easily thanks to the brains in the white house at the time and his cabinet of wonder boys (I still liked him a lot). It had a selector switch on it that allowed you to fire one round per trigger pull or in another position of the selector switch three rounds per trigger pull and hold or on yet another selector switch position, continuous fire with one trigger pull and hold until the magazine was empty.

      True story. A newby to Nam in 1967 that looked suspiciously like me, on his first assault jumped out of the side door of the chopper and let fly with his M16-1A1 high speed, level trajectory bullet launcher on full automatic at the tree line where they were catching fire from. The senior Sergeant smacked him upside the head on the helmet hard enough to ring is bell with his M16 and told him “Take that da*n thing off automatic. That makes them pick you as the most dangerous target”.

      This just proves that new second lieutenants don’t know as much as they think they do and why they’re considered one of the most dangerous people on the battle field. They have training, authority and responsibility, but no experience.

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    • JDZComment by JDZ
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:28 pm

      Background checks are intended to avoid the sale of guns to felons, under age people, illegals, people on various watch lists, etc. and are routine with a three day “cooling off” period and not intended to deter most of us from owning a gun or set up government confiscation of guns, unless you are paranoid. The same with gun registration of newly purchased guns which helps the police track guns used in gun related incidents and should not be a problem for law biding citizens. We register our vehicles and have drivers licenses which help law enforcement deal with all kinds of incidents. Some amount of trust between gun owners and our government has to be established in order to not overreact, and if the government actually crosses that line we will know it.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:10 pm

      JDZ, I agree with you in principle about background checks before you can purchase a gun, but not registration. Background checks should be OK for just the reasons you state, but I’m against them. How can we be assured that the background check will be on the up and up? People are saying that mental state needs to be part of the check. Who defines the acceptable mental state to buy and own a gun? If Pelosi had her way she would determine that anyone applying or wishing to buy a gun would be criminally insane and not be allowed to purchase a gun and possibly be given a few months in jail while they do further checking. Also, the background check could easily provide the same information to the government as registering a gun; that is who are the people trying or have bought a gun.

      I’m against straight registration because it gives the government your name, address and phone number plus how many and what type of gun(s) you purchased.

      And why should I trust the government? I’ve seen very little to trust in my 70 years and it’s going downhill from where it is (was). Just one example is the Gulf of Tolnkin excuse used to get us in Vietnam with both feet. It never happened. The government lied like a bear rug. On a list of who I trust, the government is on or near the bottom. How many straight lies have we been sold, not by just this administration, but for the last 100 years at least?

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  10. capeteddyComment by capeteddy
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:01 am

    If my state were to pass a law like this and the sheriff’s come to my house, the only thing they will find is a for sale sign because I won’t live in a socialist state.

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    • Texas GuyComment by Texas Guy
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:21 am

      I understand what you’re saying, and agree with you in principle. The problem is that soon there won’t be any place for freedom-loving people like us to live. Even the moon and Mars will be socialist colonies.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

      I can’t say the same thing so easily. How can a person just pick up and move, even if he isn’t held in place by a job of some kind? My house and property are so deflated at this point in time that even if I could sell it I would be a pauper by the time I got to where ever it was that I thought might be better. I understand your feeling, believe me. I just don’t see how I can do it. Or where!

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    • rzraickComment by rzraick
      February 20, 2013 @ 6:39 pm

      One of the examples of the wisdom of the Founders, was in the 10th ammendment. Designed to keep the states more powerful than the central government, it would also protect the rights of the citizens to “vote with their feet”.

      If you did not like the policies of the local government, you could alway have the option to move to a state which had laws which suited you better.

      No the central government has attacked the entire Bill of rights, with the single exception of the 3rd ammendment, which is still correct in principle, but has little application today. (that can always change.)

      But the entire Bill of Rights is in the crosshairs of the tyrants. And as a republic, even a minority has the obligation to oppose the tyranny.

      I reject those who say the people have spoken, and that Obama has a mandate. This is why the Founders made it clear that they hated pure democracy (mob rule) unless it was restrained by law, (the Constitution.)

      So little is understood by many today of the real purpose of the Constitution. It was crafgted to prevent tyranny, and to restrain the power of the central government. It also was designed to restrain the mob rule of a democracy.

      Under a republic, the rights of the individual are protected and and the rule of law trumps everything.

      It is no wonder that the Constitution is under attack from the tyrants in DC, but even by those misguided brainwashed citizens, who support the tyrants.

      It is the ongoing goal of the tyrants to eliminate all freedom. If they are successful, there will be no place in the U.S. where freedom can survive.

      We must reject the propaganda. We must oppose the tyranny. We must stand against the tyrants and even against the citizens who wish to be slaves.

      As to sb24, it matters little if he is a propagandist, or just a brainwashed puppet. He could not be more wrong.

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  11. rodgerpComment by rodgerp
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:12 am

    Minnesota is considering the same type of legislation. MN House bills HF241, HF242, and HF243, sponsored by Rep. Alice Hausman, currently under consideration will grant the same search powers to all 486 law enforcement agencies in MN. So much for both the 2nd and 4th Amendments of the US Constitution.

    It is not about gun control…it is about government control…of the people. The representative form of government in America is dead.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:00 am

      Correct….remember, Demorats are about you doing what they say…not what they do!

      The Marxist’s among us know the Manifesto by heart and removal of weapons is a key to Marxist domination!

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 20, 2013 @ 10:47 pm

      Not too surprising rogerp. Mn. is the state that elected Jesse Ventura governor.

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  12. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:22 am

    translation:

    WHOOPS!
    WE GOT CAUGHT

    Even if that is taken out

    ITS THE NEXT STEP

    from the “it cant happen here” folks

    ITS HAPPENING

    ITS NOW

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  13. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:24 am

    Any law GIVES THE POLICE THE POWER TO SEARCH

    the part that they are talking about need not be specified

    ITS IMPLIED

    Once its a law ( ex: no mags larger than 7 rounds) the power is ALREADY GRANTED TO THE POLICE that a search is legal

    KEEP GIVING IN

    KEEP ELECTING RINOS TO FIGHT THE LEFTISTS

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    • bowler1hatComment by bowler1hat
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:27 am

      Corrections! 1. RINOS are almost liberals or those who too widely stretch their ideologies for political correctness to be continually re-elected. 2. Under the liberal and socialist legislative manifestos (Obama Playbook), any magazine (or clip for the novice) ANY magazine with the capacity of more than ONE bullet would be an unnecessary risk to any population and should be banned. This would be the Mayberry Effect (named after town on the Andy Griffith Show for all those perplexed on where the “Mayberry” came from. The deputy was allowed to carry one bullet in his shirt pocket and an empty revolver.)(I know 99% of you knew that, but Obama’s 1% who do 50% of the broadcasting!)

      They would likely classify the cylinder of a revolver as a magazine and confiscate that as well, then arrest the owner for having a dangerous weapon.

      We have only two documents to consider: The United States Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. It is the duty of every legislator to read and re-read both documents. The best place to read them is in the military sections of almost any cemetery across this land and in any National Cemetery like Salisbury, NC and Andersonville, GA or Camp Douglas, IL where thousands of Civil War soldiers are buried after their deaths from disease and starvation. They must no longer demonstrate incompetence and confusion or partisan ignorance about either document!

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  14. mrpilkingtonComment by mrpilkington
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:51 am

    While They’re at it maybe the sheriff should check for expired dates on milk and be sure we have the proper kind of food in the refrigerator and the gallons per flush on our toilets or check to be sure the thermostat is set on a temp. deemed acceptable by Al Gore. Eventually they’ll want to check for unused bedrooms that can be used to house the homeless.(Think it can’t happen? The Russians did it in 1917.)

    That’s brilliant! send Barney Fife over to check for proper gun storage. He’ll probably shoot himself in the foot.

    I wouldn’t worry too much about this. The sheriff’s deputies I’ve met couldn’t find your house if you had huge search lights shining in your yard.(At least not if a criminal is in your house robbing you at gun point.)

    Thanks to liberals and the democrat party this country is officially classified as FUBAR. (If you don’t know what it means, ask a Marine.)

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    • williambjrComment by williambjr
      February 20, 2013 @ 2:30 pm

      Well; Al Gore is reaching out to the Collages to push his Global Warming adagenda. By the local Mida in Collages, by way of the money stressed Campuses. No Warries?

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  15. thedoveComment by thedove
    February 20, 2013 @ 10:59 am

    >> sponsored the legislation without reading the eight page bill. <<

    Gosh, that’s never happened before. Surely a mistake on the part of the reporter, no legislator would sponsor a bill he or she hadn't read.

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  16. prairelivingComment by praireliving
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:00 am

    Welcome to Nazi Germany and the Gestapo. Talk about a power grab under the guise of ‘protecting innocent people’.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:09 am

      Sad time for a once great nation! Obozo and his crazy Marxist friends see an opening and they are jumping in with a vengeance.
      Vote against any politician at all levels who do not support the 2nd Amendment.

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  17. powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:07 am

    Hey sb24….were you born into a Marxist family intent on world domination? Let me guess…you support Obozo, can’t wait for “I got blood on my hands” Hillary to run and think Pelosi and Reid walk on water.

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  18. whodunitComment by whodunit
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:07 am

    Hmmm . . . Gee, seems like I’ve read about this somewhere before . . . Oh, that’s right, when I read about Nazi Germany . . .

    Pretty soon we’ll have law enforcement knocking on the door, demanding to be let in, (never mind that you’ve got five things on the stove and two in the oven because you’re expecting a dinner party), and you’ll be forced to comply. Or else. Let me guess, there’ll be a fine that you’re expected to pay if everything is not exactly to their liking. So it’ll be a money-making venture for the county, too.

    Keep in mind, that same Sheriff probably won’t show up for an hour if your alarm goes off and you’re being attacked by a home invader.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      February 20, 2013 @ 11:11 am

      True….and note that courts have ruled that the cops do not have a duty to protect you! Only you can really protect yourself! Something the Marxist and weak Demorats don’t get and don’t believe in.

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  19. usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:19 am

    for sb24, I try not to be insulting, and I hate it when I am baited into it.. But I can see that you couldn’t graduate from stupid school, not even after a 2 year head start program… Real World?????? what makes you qualified to determine what the “Real World” is to resemble? How would you feel towards your neighbor who sat on his front steps listening to your wife scream as a couple of goons took turns raping your wife and daughter? How would you feel towards him for sitting there with his weapon(s) waiting for the the screaming to stop??? How would you feel towards him for sitting there waiting for the goons to come onto his property before he shot them? You would hate him for not coming to your rescue, any other comment would be a lie. As for registering guns- no way- the ownership is a RIGHT, owning and driving a car, a deadly weapon in of itself, is a privilege… How far are you from the nearest cop? What do you feel are your neighbor’s obligations to you for YOUR safety? What would your attitude towards him be when he didn’t use His weapon(s) to come to your aid? No doubt you would try to find some way to sue him over his refusal to come to your aid with the weapon(s) that YOU don’t believe he should have… I doubt that there are many of us that could stand to hear your wife/ daughter scream, while you stood by and screamed for help. God forbid that this should ever happen to you….

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  20. rokkyComment by rokky
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:19 am

    Our biggest problem is not just our current government, it’s our current voting public.
    We put these clowns is office and 51% of the public still think Obama is A-OK.
    The first four years of this administration didn’t teach us a damn thing and we jumped right in with both feet and let him slap us around for another four.

    It’s simple, we are a society of handouts and its much easier to just let the chips fall where they may.
    Tax the rich and let them pay for our way.
    Well, that will last for just so long and history will definitely repeat itself.
    Just ask the Roman’s.
    Are we following in their foot steps?

    When Dr. Ben Carson was asked, “Do You think We are
    headed in that direction?”
    He responded,
    “We are already in it.”
    I think he’s right.

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  21. RME KRNLComment by RME KRNL
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:22 am

    Sure, officer, all my weapons (except the one I have concealed on me) are right down here in my basement. Just head on down and I’ll follow you.

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    • freedixieComment by freedixie
      February 20, 2013 @ 1:37 pm

      Amen brother. Ha ha, I love it. Kick him down the stairs and lock the door.

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  22. bna42Comment by bna42
    February 20, 2013 @ 11:52 am

    “Sen. Adam Kline of Seattle. . .sponsored the legislation without reading the eight page bill.”

    Obviously Democrats didn’t learn anything from passing Obamacare without reading it. If a person doesn’t take the time to read a bill and know what’s in it, why would he want to be known as the sponsor of the bill? I would like to hear him explain that to his constituents.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

      Oh, I think as you are aware of – they caught – and have to lie about it.

      I don’t know which is worse – Lying about it or stating you are an idiot, in that you did NOT bother to read a BILL you put your name too??

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  23. jurooComment by juroo
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

    Rush just announced this afternoon that Washington State pulled the police searches “once a year”. The representatives claimed that they did not read the whole bill. Eight pages…..I guess it was too long. I do not know about the rest of the law.

    Tom Coburn and Paul Ryan are looking to compromise on the gun laws with Chuckie Shumer. I e-mailed Coburn, but Ryan only has e-mail for his state. You all might want to try.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 20, 2013 @ 1:02 pm

      Tom Coburn is a physician, and therefore I suspect he is completely against firearms of any kind. He says he is pro-Second Amendment, but is he really?

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  24. David in MAComment by David in MA
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:11 pm

    The democrat socialists about to tear up another page of the U.S. Constitution? That part that sys we will be secure in our papers, possessions and homes.

    I hope the 47% and the other who elected the islamic marxist realize what they have done to America. Maybe they will when they no longer receive their “benefits” under this communist regiem, stupid people, to believe a known liar and his cohorts.

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  25. David in MAComment by David in MA
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:14 pm

    and, what will happen when the sheriff appears at fienstiens door, or gabby giffords door, or and of the other socialist democrats doors, will they resist? I certanly hope s, so they can be arrested for not complying with an unconstitutional law they pass………stupid communists!

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:41 pm

      David, All these people you mention will all have passes. They are the elite! Laws don’t apply to them, only to us. Its kind of like a club, you know?

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  26. freedixieComment by freedixie
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:19 pm

    @sb24
    “Maybe when the next Adam Lanza finds his way to your town, you will still be around after the carnage you all enable,”

    No, you pinko commie liberal, it is YOU, and those morons like you who have enabled such carnage by implementing your “Gun Free Zones” which are nothing but easy targets for deranged individuals. It is a common fact that guns are used more times each year to save lives than to take them, but your lame stream media will never report that because they are on the “down with guns, disarm everyone” bandwagon. Evil exists. That is the real world fact. Progressive/communist/fascist/liberals/idiots elect traitors like we now have in their various offices who appoint liberal, anti-Constitution judges who let too many of these criminals run loose when they should be in cages, or executed.

    “the Constitution is a document that consists of more than one archaic afterthought that has outlived its usefulness”

    Might I remind you that it is this same document of “archaic afterthoughts” that protects your right to spout out stupid comments, that same document which you seem to loathe so much. It baffles my mind why commies like you who obviously hate the Constitution, and the men who wrote it, want to live in this country. Why don’t you go to a third world cesspool that is more in line with your way of thinking, such as China, North Korea, Mexico, or Cuba?
    Outlived its usefulness? So, freedom of speech, the right to defend myself and family from criminals (this includes the government), freedom of religion, the right to not be forced to lodge soldiers in my home, the right to be secure in my home without unlawful search and seizure, the right to face my accuser(s) in a court of law, etc., these have outlived their usefulness? You are a prime example of what is wrong with this country, and why we are in the pathetic shape we are in right now.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 20, 2013 @ 1:06 pm

      Adam Lanza spent entire days in mommy’s basement playing violent video games, and he chose the elementary school because it was the nearest facility that had the most people he could hurt at one time. If the liberal pinkos and the ACLU had not forced closure of the mental institutions, these people could be out of society.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 5:48 pm

      @freedixie – Why do these commies want to live here? Many of them don’t really want to live here, but they are imbedded here. They have work to do. Find out where most of these guys get there paychecks from. They are teachers, or politicians, or union thugs, or bill writers, or professional students, or journalists, etc. Seriously! If we could find out who pays them, there is your real answer.

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  27. kenlunde1Comment by kenlunde1
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:19 pm

    This happened to me:
    One morning while driving to work at about 5:15 am I came up behind a officer of the law. (I use the term loosely) He was driving down the middle of the road at about 10 mph. I flashed my lights once with no responce and followed for another 100 yards and again flashed my lights. He pulled over and stopped to let me by and then turned on his blue lights. I got out of the truck and asked what the problem was. Well to make a long story short hw asked for my drivers license and I showed it to him. He then said he had seen a second license in my wallet and he wanted to look into it. I said get a search warent. Next thing I know I am in handcuffs and my wallet is searched and as am I. When he finished he said with a big smile I do not need a search warrent. No I did not get a ticket for anything. No he did not find a second drivers license. This is also the same police station where a tax payer was shot to death inside the station about 6 months later.

    SO IF YOU THINK THE USA IS THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE I BEG TO DIFFER.

    And yes I do keep loaded wepons around the house and I sincerly hope I never have to use one.

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  28. ctroopComment by ctroop
    February 20, 2013 @ 12:34 pm

    JDZ said,

    “And, for the senior couple I described in the beginning, their best case for surviving a home invasion is a home security system, a 911 call, and ready access to a loaded gun as time is critical to survival.”

    I don’t disagree with that, but his/her (?) priorities are FUBAR’d! Whether living out in a rural area, miles away from any police agency or right next door to the police station, your FIRST line of defense is your gun! I think IF JDZ did actually serve in the military he/she (?) must have been pushing a typewriter. And he believes in registration – which ultimately means he believes in confiscation because that is where registration WILL lead. For God’s sake, what part of “shall not be INFRINGED do some of you not understand???

    Why doesn’t EVERY gun owner in Washington write to their representatives AND their county sheriffs and TELL them that any attempt to “inspect” their homes without a warrant WILL BE MET WITH DEADLY FORCE RESISTANCE! Sign the letters “Molon Lame” and mail them from a public mailbox. For God’s sake let’s stop screwing around with these progressive S.O.B.s and let them know that F#!*ing around with the Constitution is putting THEIR lives in danger!

    The problem isn’t so much with the police, sheriffs and individual soldiers who are ignorant enough (or malicious enough) to enforce such “laws” but the S.O.B.s who LEGISLATE them! Snakes are best killed by chopping off their heads – not stomping around on their tails.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 6:07 pm

      Here’s what I think, ctroop. sn24 and JDZ are the same guy, posting under two different names, playing good cop, bad cop to try to make it sound like the good cop is more realistic and actually has some credence of believability. These new guys come around here, and other conservative sites, often in two’s, agreeing and supporting each other and the liberal agenda “just a little bit” and trying to make their rubbish sound so common-sense. JDZ, if I have you pegged wrong, my bad, that’s the breaks. Thinking people should realize, if not from common sense then from history, registration is the tool of confiscation. Background checks are the joke criminals laugh at. Let EVEYONE that wants to, carry. Lock up the crazies! Crime rates would not neccesarily plummet, since most of the statistics are gang and drug related, but the random crazy shooter would be dealt with rather quickly following both of these two recommendations.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 21, 2013 @ 12:16 am

      Cops have guns to protect themselves, not us. That is unless they are being paid to protect criminals like we have in the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches. But they still don’t have them to protect us.

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  29. williambjrComment by williambjr
    February 20, 2013 @ 1:41 pm

    So should the Sheriff’s Department go into somebody’s home and take their guns and ammo. Would that not constitute theft by the act of taking their personal property,

    That the current Democratic situation which they are ushering in socialism, capitalistic progressive, socialism on the American people. We are having our Constitution aborted or killed. However, one would like to put it for the socialist progressives cannot have strong family units, the belief in a higher power, such as God and a strong nation where the people have the right to protect themselves.

    While the media is in there beds haveing an orgy with that progressive socialists, communists, and others who would be so extremely happy that the American way of life is destroyed and freedom is turned into dictatorship. The American people need to stand up for their rights, or we will lose our freedom, in my eyes, but I am only one who cares about my country, my fellow American, all our Constitution and the direction which these socialist communistic progressives are invading and overthrowing our American civilization and way of life through the act of tyranny and the dissolution of the American Constitution.

    In the meantime, our federal government is denying the United States of America, security and the need for better border security and the local police and sheriffs departments are complaining about the ability to properly do their jobs due to their inability to have proper funding for their services. While the federal government is selling arms to the enemy, such as druglords, drug cartels and giving them the carte blanche runway for intrusion into America to our central plains and lower 48 states, while posting a “Caution Signs” stating this is a human trafficking, drug running area.

    While in the mean-time, intruders or invaders in the homes flourish, leaving the American people who are at the mercy of hardened criminals, Into our country, homes and lives . Without the ability for the American people to protect and defend their family and loved ones and properties is being forced on us through so-called gun control and legislation.

    This is what socialistic progressive life as the current administration is trying to bring to America and establish it as law and will be more than happy to lead us to the predators that are foaming at the mouth to be freed from their pit by these new socialistic progressive ordinances.

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  30. whodunitComment by whodunit
    February 20, 2013 @ 3:01 pm

    Let me see . . .
    “Inspecting” for illegal drugs? Whoops, not allowed.
    Okay, “inspecting” for illegal aliens? Again, not allowed.
    “Inspecting” for criminals or even deadbeat dads? Oh, no, gotta protect those rights!

    But “inspecting” legal firearms? Oh, sure, according to the Dems, that’s all fine . . .

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 20, 2013 @ 6:15 pm

      Excellent points!

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  31. gopuc12450Comment by gopuc12450
    February 20, 2013 @ 3:01 pm

    WWI, WWII, Korea, Nam, Afghanistan; All wars started by Democrats! It appears they now want a war in America!
    I know a few good people in the Democratic Party, but damn few.

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  32. oleteabagComment by oleteabag
    February 20, 2013 @ 3:55 pm

    So . . . I’m just curious . . . HOW is this different from British soldiers barging into private homes to disarm law-abiding colonists? Didn’t we fight a revolution to stop that sort of thing? And now here is our Communist-in-Chief and his minions in law enforcement trying to legalize the SAME DAMNED THING in our country. This SHOULD NOT STAND. It is an OUTRAGEOUS and egregious violation of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights that was written SPECIFICALLY to prevent this sort of invasion. And Obama wonders WHY gun and ammo sales have soared and people want to be armed to protect themselves from an overreaching government?

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  33. wdjincComment by wdjinc
    February 20, 2013 @ 4:04 pm

    Obviously Unconstitutional!

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  34. juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
    February 20, 2013 @ 6:42 pm

    Hey SB24 – Here’s the skinny. Registration, confiscation, elmination. Not paranoid, just the truth. First like Germany, Turkey, Guatamala, Uganda, Cuba, Soviet Union, China, they determine how many guns there are out there, then they come for them, then they exterminate those who do not fall into line with their Communist way of thinking. Learn, go to the libray read up on countries and the people who are left defenseless. Taking guns from innocent citizens will not deter crime it will fuel it. But most importantly it will allow the government to take over your life, that is if they deem that you will be lucky enough to live. What do you think the Holocaust was? Or maybe like the left wing Communist nuts you believe the Holocaust was just make believe. Trust me when I say this, it won’t be just those possessing guns when they come to inspect. They could be coming to take your husband, your wife or your children. Get educated now before it’s to late.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      February 21, 2013 @ 12:05 am

      Probably wasting your time juicyfruit56. Anything you say will be determined to be false by liberals and when you offer written proof, they will deny that too. In their eyes, they are the only ones that know the right path to take and the rest of us are paranoid dimwits.

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  35. nateComment by nate
    February 20, 2013 @ 6:51 pm

    @vietnamvet I was wondering if that bothered anyone else as bad as it bothers me.Unbelievable

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  36. Repossess AmericaComment by Repossess America
    February 20, 2013 @ 7:28 pm

    If that bill actually says “assault weapons”, then the only homes they could legally go in are homes where the owner has a license to own machine guns. Fully automatic weapons. AR15s ARE NOT assault weapons.

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  37. gentlemanjimComment by gentlemanjim
    February 20, 2013 @ 8:08 pm

    If you get hit with a bat it’s considered an assault weapon. Let’s ban all bats unless they’re being used by a professional baseball player.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      February 20, 2013 @ 8:43 pm

      Oh, GMJ – I did not, in my above stats, get into Sports Related accidents/injuries/deaths …. Some of them are seriously HIGHER than gun related accidents/injuries/deaths. Almost up there with Alcohol. :O

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  40. stormymonday2Comment by stormymonday2
    February 25, 2013 @ 5:52 pm

    The stuff these liberal, Socialist are trying to impose on the people should scare you enough to start standing up for your rights before it is too late. These liberals have no respect for our Constitution. What do you expect? We have a “President” who has no regards for it either.

    “Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.”

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  41. stormymonday2Comment by stormymonday2
    February 25, 2013 @ 5:58 pm

    The gun companies and ammonition makers should refuse to sell those billions of bullets, which will be used against American citizens, to the Federal Government. Arm the people, not the Feds.

    This President has no regards for American citizens, nor all who fought for her. In my opinion, he is a disgrace to all who fought and died to keep us free. He strengtheneth the hands of the evil doers and those who hate us. He does not stand for anything that is right and good.

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  42. mountainmomentComment by mountainmoment
    April 3, 2013 @ 5:35 am

    While there are several good points here, I must remind you that Obama has already used tactics that are unconstitutional, immoral and/or not within his rights granted to the Executive branch. He passed Obama-care without giving those voting on it time to even read the bill before it was passed. He is killing thousands over seas with drone attacks and plans to do the same on US soil. He promised not to raise taxes for those making under $250K and then did just that for all tax brackets. Billions of rounds of ammunition have been purchased by “Home Land Security”. Hundreds of thousands of caskets have been purchased by FEMA. Youth camps have been created to train young men to fight by FEMA…..YES FEMA. Our military is being gutted with those promoted that answer the question “Could you shoot a US citizen if ordered to do so” correctly. A bill has already been sent to committee that will REMOVE the term limits for our president. Sheriffs all over the country are rising up apposing gun restrictions because they know that guns taken from law abiding citizens will only weaken the American people. I can go on for some time. Know this…..He has an agenda and it is NOT in the best interest of the American People. His interest is self serving and tyrannical. You speak of rising up as though it is something we should do……It has already begun.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      April 3, 2013 @ 8:32 am

      >> A bill has already been sent to committee that will REMOVE the term limits for our president. <<

      Simply passing a law won't do it, that would require an amendment to the Constitution.

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