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Councilman asks Man to Turn in His Weapon... Look what Happens Next!

By Bobby Eberle

During a city council meeting in Oak Harbor, Washington, a veteran was testifying against the city's ban against guns in their public parks. The citizen who was testifying was asked by one city councilman to remove and turn in his legally concealed weapon. When the citizen refused, the councilman walked out. But that's only the start. It's the next city council meeting that became really interesting.

First, there's the January 15 meeting of the Oak Harbor City Council. Lucas Yonkman steps before the microphone to testify. Below is an edited video of Yonkman's testimony and the remainder of the meeting. You can skip ahead to around the 2:00 minute mark.

As reported by MyNorthwest.com, the city councilmember who walked out is Rick Almberg, and he surely had no idea of what he started.

Here's what happened at the next meeting:

The council was met by 160 people Tuesday night, many who were packing heat.

There were handguns in holsters and rifles slung over shoulders and an unknown number of people concealing their weapons as the Oak Harbor City Council met. Many attended the meeting to show support for veteran Lucas Yonkman who Councilmember Almberg tried to have kicked out of City Hall last month, including Joe Hawkins who openly mocked him. "Mr. Almberg I just want you to know that I have a concealed ham sandwich right here I don't want you to get up and walk away," he chuckled.

Most attended the meeting to oppose the city's ban on guns in parks and the marina. The Second Amendment Foundation had threatened to sue if the ordinance wasn't overturned.

The Whidbey News-Times that the ordinance that put the city in an uproar was voted down by the same city council that put the ban in place the first time.

The armed members of the audience ultimately won the day at the Tuesday night meeting as the council members unanimously voted to reverse a ban on guns in city parks. Councilman Rick Almberg created a region-wide controversy by leading the council in a decision not to immediately bring the gun-related city code in compliance with state law, but then dramatically walking out of the last council meeting when his colleagues refused to pass his motion aimed at disarming a member of the audience.

But on Tuedsay the council avoided the spectacle of drawn-out public comments by quickly passing the ordinance and only allowing the audience to speak during a half-hour comment period; they made it clear that it was a threat of a lawsuit, not public pressure, that pushed them to act.

The liberals on the city council can say what they want. Whether it was the threat of law suit or the pressure from outraged citizens. It really doesn't make a difference. What matters is that no government entity should be allowed to infringe on anyone's Constitutional rights. Period. If that City Counciman Almberg doesn't like it, maybe he should resign rather than just walking out.

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  1. sam236Comment by sam236
    February 9, 2013 @ 8:58 am

    Typical liberal “my way or the highway” response–the councilman didn’t get his way so he walked out. He seems to believe anyone lawfully carrying a concealed weapon is a crazed maniac, even though the veteran who spoke was completely calm and rational. Oak Harbor is a military town, so I’d bet the councilman is serving his last term in office.

    Very classy response by the mayor.

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    • RoBoTechComment by RoBoTech
      February 9, 2013 @ 11:32 am

      Typical Liberal is soooo correct.
      Th is one is the poster boy for Liberals.
      He tried to get a motion voted on to get the CCW out, and when he was denied, he took his ball and went home.
      They didn’t need him, so his effort was moot.
      Just like in Michigan when the Democrats actually skipped the State to stop the vote on Union bargaining reform.
      Held off the vote for a week, then it was passed without them.
      Then they whined and cried because they weren’t there for the vote.
      Insanity.

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    • ohsaycanyouseeComment by ohsaycanyousee
      February 9, 2013 @ 3:25 pm

      I agree with the councilman. First, why isn’t there a sworn police officer attending this meeting. I wouldn’t want a citizen attending a meeting armed. Oh, by the way, just because he served doesn’t mean he is deserving to carry. I served too, but that doesn’t give me an automatic right to carry. I also work in law enforcement.

      Try walking into a federal building trying to pull that ****. You’ll get slammed to the ground quicker than you can say momma. The gun nuts have taken this way too far.

      I say arm EVERYONE, criminals too, and let the best man win. Because the way this **** is going that’s what it will end up being. Protecting one’s self in public and in their home is one thing, but attending a meeting is another. When will this stop? Oh, it goes to show just how stupid this gun freaks are. The councilman excused himself from the meeting and he’s getting attacked. He didn’t say anything mean to the person. All he said was that he didn’t feel comfortable and now the gun freaks are racking him over the coals. I thought the Mayor was an idiot for his comments. If he believed so much in what he was saying I wonder if he was “packing.”

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 9, 2013 @ 3:58 pm

      “Protecting one’s self in public and in their home is one thing, but attending a meeting is another”.

      I am laughing at your contradicting yourself. Attending a PUBLIC meeting would be one of the places where you would want to protect yourself in PUBLIC!

      Yes, you would be confronted IF you tried to enter a federal building because THAT is explicitly prohibited by federal law. I see nothing in this story to suggest that he was violating the laws of his state by attending a public meeting while armed. The citizen in question obviously was not violating any laws because the councilman ASKED him to turn in his weapon. If he had been illegal, the council would have had him arrested and disarmed. The laws in my state prohibit carrying a weapon into ANY public building, and even though I have a concealed carry permit, I obey the laws and I am NOT a gun freak.

      “All he said was that he didn’t feel comfortable and now the gun freaks are racking him over the coals.”

      After reading some of your comments, I suspect the councilman would have more reason to be “uncomfortable” around YOU than the other guy. It’s odd that a veteran who claims to be a law enforcement officer would humiliate law-abiding citizens by referring to them as “stupid gun freaks”. It sounds to me like you should be prohibited from carrying a weapon if your attitude toward law-abiding citizens is that disgusting. No one is claiming that being a veteran has an “automatic right to carry”, but perhaps people in law enforcement with your attitude should be prohibited the “automatic right to carry”.

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    • pur48tedComment by pur48ted
      February 9, 2013 @ 5:34 pm

      @ohsaycanyousee….
      What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do you not understand?

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    • whodunitComment by whodunit
      February 9, 2013 @ 10:55 pm

      The Veteran and the Mayor were impressive. Calm, rational, and personable. The Councilman on the other hand acted like an arrogant, histrionic fool, one who decided he wanted to change the laws right then and there. He seemed to think his opinion was the only one that mattered.

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    • blogengeezerComment by blogengeezer
      February 10, 2013 @ 2:31 pm

      What a blessing to have Scott Dudley as Mayor. We travel by RV and have stayed at enjoyable Oak Harbor often and for extended periods. Being life long ‘Armed Citizens of the United States of America’, we are ‘Armed’ as we travel. To have those of the Liberal (in the restrictive and regulatory Obsessed terminology) mentality (or lack of), attempt to render us as ‘Subjects’ to Their Totalitarian doctrines, I find objectionable, at the very least.

      To address ‘ohsaycanyousee’ and his overbearing self righteousness. I have read the ‘manifesto’ from Chris Dorner, the disgraceful LA police officer who obviously is a Liberal Leftist. I find ‘ohsays’s comments on par. BTW that is a condemnation to Your character. To attempt to render ‘others’ helpless and defenseless, is a taught mindset from an early age. You are in effect “An incurablly obsessed BULLY”, of which the world has far too many. Now we All realize why Our 2nd Amendment is in place. To Protect ourselves from the likes of ‘ohsay’ and those of the same Tyrannical belief.

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    • usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
      February 11, 2013 @ 8:37 am

      To ohCAN”Tyousee. And you are a cop,gee I think I saw you in a video where a cop stops a guy walking with a side arm on his hip raking him over the coals for the legal carry, just because HE (cop being GOD)didn’t like him legal carrying. The cop was like typically portrayed a big heavy guy asserting his supposed authority. lack of a civil tongue ye be having.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      February 11, 2013 @ 9:07 am

      This veteran like all veterans clearly showed why our founders gave us the 2nd ammendment right to bear arms,,,,to insure that all the others are obeyed. The disoriented and fearful councilman only succeeded in displaying the type of arrogance by irresponsible untrusting and untrust worthy so-called progressive people who live in fear, that are unworthy to sit in the higher councils of authority where reasonable sane men of courage engage in acts of real leadership. Followership not leadrship is all his type have to offer. There are tens of thousands of returning veterans who have learned this lesson in blood who silently walk among us concealed. Let their voices be heard and their guns remain concealed to protect and defend a Constituion that non-serving elected cowards refuse to do.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 11, 2013 @ 9:11 am

      oldsarge,

      The man SAID he worked in law enforcement. Hopefully he is a jailer, clerk, or “meter maid” who is not authorized to carry a firearm.

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  2. poorgrandchildren.comComment by poorgrandchildren.com
    February 9, 2013 @ 9:14 am

    Gun grabbers need to be charged with murder.

    There were 26 children and DISARMED adult victims murdered by a crazy man at the school in Newtown, Connecticut. There were about 56 million children and DISARMED adult victims murdered by crazy governments during the Twentieth Century. Those who DISARMED those victims are accessories to murder and need to be held accountable.

    Defending the Second Amendment is a matter of life or death, and gun grabbers are on the side of death.

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    • lawman1947Comment by lawman1947
      February 9, 2013 @ 10:20 am

      Interesting thought…and I can’t disagree with you. I support the 2nd Amendment (I’m retired Law Enforcement) and only worry about the whackos who go crazy with a firearm. So, I carry 100% of the time and will do my best to contribute to the safety of my family & our community. Remember – those of us who are armed and willing to defend ourselves and others might be the only thing standing between the whackos and your family.

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    • dfrieze2001Comment by dfrieze2001
      February 9, 2013 @ 10:24 am

      Amen Brother!

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    • groschen1936Comment by groschen1936
      February 9, 2013 @ 11:03 am

      It’s tragic that so many seem to be unaware that the courts have on numerous occasions ruled that the Police have NO legal obligation to protect citizens from harm! The ultimate protection is the responsibility of the individual, which is the purpose of the Second Amendment that explains it as a pre-existing Right unalterable by Government.

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    • bowler1hatComment by bowler1hat
      February 9, 2013 @ 1:23 pm

      I would not try to dispute your stats on government murders. I assume included Lenin’s assassination of a royal family and the millions of civilians who died as as WWI and the revolution overlapped. There is Stalin’s 20 million, Hitler’s 6 million Jews, Japan’s Nanking and hundreds of other places where unarmed peoples faced planes, tanks, gas and atomic power. While some may justify one as saving a million American/Allied lives in an invasion of Japan, some of these murders were Saddam Hussein’s Kurds, political opponents and allies. These deaths were at the hands of tyrants who clung to power at any costs. Idi Amin Dada enjoyed his brand of “justice” and on occasions was rumored to eat select victims as did Jeffrey Dahmer.

      In a society where much of this nation has entrusted or even surrendered all sense of responsibility and mentality to the “national daycare” style government, we see people unwilling to think for themselves and will take, “whatever Obama says” as fact, as truth, as law. The entitlement society that is still looking for his stash with their Obama-phones pre-election bonuses are willing to follow his intelligent way of ending gun violence by taking them away from those who have registered legal guns in only a few years span. How many centuries would his legacy take to strip the illegal guns from the criminals who would likely double the 56 million score in St Valentine’s Day Massacre style for sport or retribution? Who would have the ability and the guns to prevent the next massacre or killings with a knife or club?

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    • recce1Comment by recce1
      February 9, 2013 @ 2:58 pm

      bowler1hat, thanks for a thoughtful post. You might find http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM on the site Freedom, Democide, War by R.J Rummel helpful if quite sad on the incidence of Democide; the murder of citizens by government. Counting just various types of socialists the number approaches 171 million souls in the last century. If one lumps all deaths due to the Crusades, the Inquisition, witch hunts, AND slavery of Africans, the 30 Years War in Europe, and Native Americans together as Christian democide that total approaches 39 million, less than 25% of that of socialists, although still far too many.

      Your final question is most pertinent. We should remember it took the police about 20 minutes to respond to the shooting at Sandy Hook. Thanks again for your post.

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  3. Glenn ShannonComment by Glenn Shannon
    February 9, 2013 @ 9:33 am

    Think the real fear is a ban on ammunition like the one California passed. You can have all the weapons you want but with no ammunition they are worthless.

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    • rattlerjakeComment by rattlerjake
      February 9, 2013 @ 10:05 am

      There will now be a strong BLACK MARKET in ammunition, guaranteed! Who’d have thought that anything could cross the border into California illegally in greater numbers than Mexicans.

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    • btmimsComment by btmims
      February 9, 2013 @ 12:50 pm

      And then we will have hidden manufacturing, just like during Prohibition. Many will save all their brass, all that we would need is bullets and powder available. I’ve not looked at bullets, but they used to be made of straight led and you can just melt that and pour it in a cast. I read up on making powder a few years ago, but it was more expensive and time consuming for 99% of us than it’s worth. while it’s legal, anyway. Powder requires mixing certain ground up, granular/powdery materials together and then there’s some kind of grinding/refining process. I imagined something like a cement mixer filled with ball bearings was what it looked like/how it worked. If the sale of ammo were illegal, it would become quite profitable to have these sites, probably out in the sticks right where all the old stills are.

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    • HisStoryUnComment by HisStoryUn
      February 9, 2013 @ 1:00 pm

      The ammo ban is on the table but not yet passed into law in California. Whether the ammo ban happens or not, the federal government has already started the “black-market” for it by purchasing BILLIONS of rounds from manufacturers, thereby driving up the cost and the availability nationwide! People all over the country are having a very difficult time getting ammo due to the shortages created by the government and it is not isolated to California. Stock up if you can! Ammunition will only become more valuable as this continues.

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    • btmimsComment by btmims
      February 9, 2013 @ 5:01 pm

      Oops forgot about primers. Still, people will find a way.

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      February 9, 2013 @ 10:54 pm

      @btmims

      Molding one’s own bullets is a simple thing to do. I have several bullet molds and an electric smelting pot. I use two sources of lead. One is bullets I’ve picked out of backstops, and the other is lead ingots that must have a certain amount of tin mixed in. Easy peasy.

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    • ruralguyinthewoodsComment by ruralguyinthewoods
      February 10, 2013 @ 3:48 pm

      Luckily we have groups putting in the works, laws that will require all citzens to be responsible and carry protection since those who don’t become a liability to others around them. People who are anti-gun are anti-American, what happened to our treason laws? If we can’t eliminate the demoncrat(communist) party our country will continue to erode from the inside, we should be sending them to those socialist countries they’re to make this into, where they’d be happy.
      RG

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    • kngplyrComment by kngplyr
      February 12, 2013 @ 1:35 pm

      Looks like the Mexican cartels will have a new product to sell.
      I would just like to see if their merchandise has “made in USA” stamped on it. We still have no answers to Fast& Furious do we?

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    • abxchangeComment by abxchange
      February 16, 2013 @ 8:33 am

      Maybe the Department of Homeland Security just purchased 200 million more rounds of ammunition so that no one will be able to load their guns. I suppose they will hand it over to the Muslim brotherhood like they did the rockets, etc. Anyway this video is the first thing I’ve seen in a long time that made me have a happy smile! Since Obama started his Presidency, i feel like the citizens of the United States are the underdogs! We take a back seat to the illegal aliens, the newly established Muslims that don’t want to assimilate into our culture but insist we assimilate to theirs. I just hope we can all protect each other from the left. It looks like some people in law enforcement (ohsaycanhesee) would be standing behind the big wigs like those who stood beside Abbas in Syria while he murdered Christians. Better remember who they are so you can watch your back!

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  4. thomasjeffersonComment by thomasjefferson
    February 9, 2013 @ 10:10 am

    Awful liberal for a Navy town. I’m gonna have to start carrying my concealed ham sandwich again.

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  5. empty pocketsComment by empty pockets
    February 9, 2013 @ 10:17 am

    That city council proves that when the people stand up to the bullies—the bullies turn out to be wimps.

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  6. cricket23Comment by cricket23
    February 9, 2013 @ 10:42 am

    Class act on the part of the Citizens of Oak Harbor City!

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  7. bless2liveComment by bless2live
    February 9, 2013 @ 10:42 am

    The city councilmam is not mature enough to be in such a responsible position with the city. He lacks integrity and his judgement of a this particular situation was pathetic! He did the best thing for all by leaving his post!

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  8. theengineerComment by theengineer
    February 9, 2013 @ 11:14 am

    As is the case with many who are in a position of power, liberals want not just some control, they want total control. It is just this type of thinking that the founders worked very hard to deflect when they penned our constitution. Law abiding citizens are not the problem, they can, and probably will be, the largest part of the cure.

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    • vevaComment by veva
      February 9, 2013 @ 6:08 pm

      Illinois has some of the strictest gun laws, and is the highest in crime – in the nation. The criminals have guns, and, apparently, use them.

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    • blogengeezerComment by blogengeezer
      February 10, 2013 @ 9:02 pm

      Veva knows the truth. Chicago now has over 100,000 gang members. Up 40% since the ‘Hope and Change’ of 2009. With 13% of population black, that (overwhelmingly) govt tax Payer subsidized demographic, accounts for substantially over 49% of the crime.

      80% of Chicago homicides are gang related. ‘West’ African gangs against ‘East’ African gangs (whoda’ thought), Asian gangs and Hispanic gangs. All vying for ‘Control’ and ‘Respect’, while subsidized and spawned into ever increasing ‘dependency’.

      1.4 million gang members across the USA and rapidly increasing (more perpetual dependency ‘Hope and Change’). Chicago has far exceeded the prosperous, periodically fatal, good ol days of ‘Al Capone’. He and his ‘associates’ would be terrified to live in the Chicago of today, especially anywhere in the path of the rapidly expanding ‘south side’ influence.

      Does Anyone of intelligence still honestly believe that being forcefully ‘disarmed for safety’ is a great concept?

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  9. spiritof76patriotComment by spiritof76patriot
    February 9, 2013 @ 11:24 am

    I extend kudos to the mayor and city council. I pray that their sanity and principled observance of established constitutional and legislated laws would spread to and be adopted by our other public SERVANTS…at all local, state, and national levels. For this miracle to happen however, WE THE PEOPLE must do more than just pray. Only by proactively working to communicate with and show by example the wisdom and reasonableness of our positions, as Mr. Yonkman did so well, can we effect the changes this country so badly needs.

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  10. bna42Comment by bna42
    February 9, 2013 @ 11:35 am

    “Councilman Rick Almberg created a region-wide controversy by leading the council in a decision not to immediately bring the gun-related city code in compliance with state law”

    I thought it was interesting that Oak Harbor was NOT “in compliance with state law”. This identical situation is happening in my city currently. The city has prohibited concealed weapons in city parks and cemeteries even though state law allows the practice. A pro-gun group has threatened a lawsuit if the city doesn’t change its mind. However, our city is known for spending thousands in legal fees when they are in the wrong but their councilmen’s egos won’t allow them to do the right thing.

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    • mogul264Comment by mogul264
      February 9, 2013 @ 9:29 pm

      Here’s an idea! Elect NEW Councilmen! Ones with less inflated egos and willing to admit mistakes when they make them! AND, willing to make actions to correct them! If you allow them to REMAIN in their posts, you are NO better than they!

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  11. lawman1947Comment by lawman1947
    February 9, 2013 @ 11:35 am

    Just thinking about our 2nd Amendment rights, and all those who would take them away, including crazy local government officials. It makes me think back to when I began a career in Law Enforcement to protect and serve the citizens of my community. That was in 1971, at which time I began carrying a firearm 24/7. I was told it was my duty, that I should be prepared to do my job, whether on duty or not. Obviously a firearm was critical to being prepared.

    There was a District Attorney in a neighboring County who issued a statement that he firmly believed in our Law Enforcement Officers preparedness. He indicated that he would prosecute any Police Officer (on or off-duty) who was not carrying a weapon at all times. It’s been awhile, and there may have been other factors in his statement, but I’ll never forget what he was trying to do by keeping us armed and ready to defend ourselves and others.

    Police Officer may not be Constitutionally required to protect and serve, but by the sworn oath we all take, it is our DUTY. And today in my opinion, private citizens also have a duty as well as a right to defend themselves and their families. Can you even imagine how it would feel to helplessly watch as a deranged armed shooter began firing on you, your family, and others – while you stood there with your unarmed thumb up your ***?

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 9, 2013 @ 12:38 pm

      “And today in my opinion, private citizens also have a duty as well as a right to defend themselves and their families.”

      lawman, I think the fact many people are not understanding is that politicians DO NOT CARE about the safety and protection of private citizens. The politicians care about CONTROL of the people, and they know that control is not completely possible as long as the citizens are able to defend themselves.

      A government that will allow its own U.S. Ambassador murdered without trying to rescue him and then tell us that “there wasn’t time to respond” absolutely does not care about its private citizens.

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  12. tps12Comment by tps12
    February 9, 2013 @ 11:42 am

    It only proves even if they act like their listening they want it their way. They really don’t care about our rights. They only cared about being sued.

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  13. sickntired2Comment by sickntired2
    February 9, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Councilman.

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  14. luetteComment by luette
    February 9, 2013 @ 12:38 pm

    My son went to pick up his daughter from Kindergarten, he was shocked to see essays taped to the hallway walls in which the school had asked its students to do a report on “Why there should be Gun Control”
    I dont think parents are aware of how far the liberal agenda is going behind parents backs in the classroom. I also doubt if in their discussions, they told the children that in Australia, where gun control has been done, Gun Crime has increased 40% in just one year, or any other true statistic on this issue.
    They are trying to create classrooms full of little leftists, and ridicule parents views in the process.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      February 9, 2013 @ 3:39 pm

      luette, you are absolutely correct. Take it from this retired school teacher, the liberals look at education AS indoctrination, from kindergarten all the way on up. And what they get away with, just like the above, would make parents sick if they knew. If you could go into your childs school unannounced and privately observe your childs classroom you would be shocked at many things. But that isn’t possible in today’s world. Parents, get your children OUT OF public school systems and find a private school that you can be more involved with what your children are learning. Or better yet plug in to a home schooling network. The public school system is BROKEN and union run!

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      February 9, 2013 @ 11:10 pm

      @spindizzy

      Yup! When I did my practicum for my M.Ed. here in Minnesota, I sat in a 2nd Grade class during the mock elections with Bush and Gore, the kiddies cut out ballots from their special election-year academic fliers. One little girl came up to the teacher, whimpering, “Teacher … I can’t remember who to vote for.” The teacher softly cooed, “Now … who did we say was ‘for the children?’” The little girl gleefully blurted out, “Oh, yeah! Gore!” and ran back to her seat to mark her ballot.

      When the ballots had all been counted, Gore had won, but by a narrow margin. The teacher turned to me and hissed in a noisy whisper, “I can’t believe so many of them still voted for Bush! They must be getting that at HOME!” The teacher didn’t know me at all, as it was my first day in her classroom, but it does show how leftist the teaching community has become, that she wouldn’t even probe to find out my political sympathies first. Nope, she just assumed I was a communist right along with the rest of them.

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    • blogengeezerComment by blogengeezer
      February 10, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

      Mao was undeniably a ‘Leftist’, Schools ‘at one time’.. taught that ‘Fact’. After creating a totalitarian governed system of Perpetually Dependency Addicted, unarmed and helpless ‘Subjects’, Mao became fully aware of what an unsustainable drain they became on China. He formed the ‘Red Brigades’ to go door to door, through the crime infested cesspools of Urban China and forcibly remove All of the useless elements from society. The Red Brigades force ‘Marched’ (no buses, trains) the millions of failure ideology ‘created’ parasites, including their ‘enabler Professors’, off to the Agrarian system, to WORK for their own survival. Most never returned. Prof Rummel estimates from 1 to 38 million, were ‘composted’ over the course of China’s National Socialism Power of Democide.

      Mayor Dudley is an excellent counter force to the Mao’s of US society. Stay strong Oak Harbor. Stay based on Freedom Oak Harbor. Minimal govt is historically the safest form of government. The more Powerful government…the more DEADLY.

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  15. odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
    February 9, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

    You can bet this anti-gun councilman enjoys certain protections afforded him due to his office. Someday, hopefully soon, he’ll be out of office and having to live as an ordinary citizen. How will he feel about working without armed guards only feet away? How will he react if faced with armed criminals? As they are assaulting, raping, and tormenting his wife and loved ones, will he lecture them about the evil gun? Or will he be too busy crying, begging for his life, and wishing he had a gun himself?

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  16. 101squadronComment by 101squadron
    February 9, 2013 @ 4:05 pm

    Comment by lawman1947, it was once described to me as
    “We have sheep, we have wolves but some of us elect to be sheepdogs to protect those less fortunate from the wolves.”

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  17. JDZComment by JDZ
    February 9, 2013 @ 5:35 pm

    Our country is sliding more and more toward socialism as the “nanny state” government continues to grow and expand it’s control over our individual freedom. It is a form of sickness that envelops those in control of government at all levels as they become so egocentric to convince themselves that they know best and must create laws and regulations to enforce their visions for the country and its citizens.

    Think about some of the things on the table under the Obama administration:

    1. Taking control of the healthcare industries in our country (1/6 of our economy).

    2. Expanding the scope of the EPA to include carbon emissions by bypassing Congress.

    3. Allowing eminent domain to be expanded in new ways that force people out of their family homes in
    favor of commercial projects that are politically cronyism motivated.

    4. Forcing politically correct policies on everyone including atheism and gay rights.

    5. Finding new ways to take assets/earned income from one to give to others under the blatant guise
    of wealth redistribution.

    6. Forcing citizens through regulations to drive smaller and less safe cars.

    7. Trying to confiscate guns from law biding citizens.

    8. Raising the cost of everything we need (food, clothes, shelter, etc.) through EPA regulations.

    ETC. It is a never ending quest by liberal politicians to constrain or eliminate our individual freedoms.

    As the governments at all levels continue to grow and build trillions of dollars of unaffordable debt and eventually cannot raise enough taxes or fees, or borrow enough money to keep kicking the can down the road, what is going to happen to our country..our standard of living..our national security? We see cities going bankrupt. We see states like California run by liberal legislatures building more and more debt and heading toward some form of financial crises as states cannot print their own money. And our only back up for all of the lower level governments in crises is our federal government which is in an even worse financially deepening crises of its own, especially under the Obama administration.

    It is sad and sickening to watch happen.

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    • mogul264Comment by mogul264
      February 9, 2013 @ 9:59 pm

      Think about the name: GOVERN’-MENT ~! The first part, ‘Govern’ is what, by it’s very nature, it is attempting to do. When it overreaches itself (WHICH IS OFTEN!), it needs to be slapped down, forced to back down, and become the docile mediator, the WILL AND INSTRUMENT OF THE PEOPLE, it is supposed to be, NOT RULE AS THE DOMINATOR! This goes for it’s leaders, most ESPECIALLY! Government works FOR US, IT DOES NOT REIGN OVER US!

      GOVERNMENT is like FIRE! Fire will BURN EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES! We must deprive it of fuel, stop the bonfire, stop that chance to CONSUME us, by REMOVING its power, the power of spending dollars unchecked, the fuel of not keeping a close watch upon its activities and actions!

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  18. mrsgunnut10Comment by mrsgunnut10
    February 9, 2013 @ 5:43 pm

    If Rick Almsberg is an “Elected” City Council Member or otherwise, he needs to be fired. Don’t just let him walk out, throw him out and kick him down the stairs. The City Council of any City must, always, work for the Citizens that support the City with their Tax Dollars. He, obviously, thinks he is the Mayor or Commander of the City, or whatever to act the way he did. I say, good for the Gun Owners, they seemed to have shown the Council that the Citizens WERE their Bosses and not the other way around. Bravo Gun Owners. Thank you for your time. TSgt., USAF Retired.

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  19. BeemergrannyComment by Beemergranny
    February 9, 2013 @ 7:03 pm

    Glad the City Council finally got some common sense from somewhere. This is what is going to start happening all over this country and not just over gun control. The good people of this nation are getting fed up. Taking more and more freedoms away from the people and then taxing them to the point of having a huge percentage of their pay checks taken away is finally registering with a lot of people across this country that there is something very very wrong with things from Washington on down to all the little hamlets in this country. You can’t have a great nation if the people are treated like peasants. It’s been tried and every time, it fails.

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  20. copakemanComment by copakeman
    February 9, 2013 @ 7:26 pm

    i hope baldy went up to the roof and jumpped off, so wouldn’t have to continue to live in a country that allows crazy people to carry weapons to a concil meeting. if baldy wanted to ask a question, why didn’t he directly ask the question ? he is a liberal/socialit /communist sponge who would never stand up for himself. i hope baldy doesn’t get paid for the meeting he voluntarilly walked out of.

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    • recce1Comment by recce1
      February 11, 2013 @ 4:48 am

      Don’t you have any cojones? Just go there and push him off the roof. After all you have murder in your heart. Quite frankly you’re no better than most progressives.

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  22. nutcaseamericanComment by nutcaseamerican
    February 9, 2013 @ 9:10 pm

    The politicians would have us disarm because they tell us that THEY will protect us. Well lets examine how well they have been doing…

    Columbine 32 dead
    Katrina 4,081 dead
    Sandy hook 26 dead
    Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma city, NY (9-11), Hurricane Sandy, and on and on.

    In an emergency the only people you can count on is YOU!

    Even at Sandy Hook, the police took 20 minutes to respond. Even if he didn’t have a “high capacity” magazine (he didn’t even use the “assault” riffle) he STIL could have killed that many people in 20 minutes with a club!

    If any of you are counting on the government (police, firemen, or anyone) to “protect” you, you are in for one rude awakening!

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  27. chieftainComment by chieftain
    February 11, 2013 @ 1:42 am

    Kudos to Mayor Scott Dudley and the majority of the Oak Harbor City Council who showed the nation, in particular the Obummer administration, that gun-control laws are going to be very hard to pass and almost impossible to enforce. Patriotic Americans are NOT going to let this happen. Judging by the actions of the citizens of Oak Harbor following this meeting, the tenure of those liberals on the city council is going to be short-lived.

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  29. TomPFComment by TomPF
    February 11, 2013 @ 11:07 am

    Wow! Great video! As a conservative trapped in CA and living with legislators and a citizenry who are 180 out from the Oak Harbor Mayor and most of the fine folks who commented here, I am VERY encouraged to read all the positive support for the Mayor and the Veteran. It gives me hope that the rest of the country isn’t as messed up as it is here in CA! Trust me – you need to stand STRONG against infringments on your rights, 2nd Amendment and others, because once they’re lost, you’ll never get them back. We here in CA can’t even FATHOM that we’d ever be able to concealed carry in this state!

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 11, 2013 @ 11:41 am

      “We here in CA can’t even FATHOM that we’d ever be able to concealed carry in this state!”

      So NO ONE in CA carries a firearm and you have NO gun violence? There is NO murder, no armed robbery, no sexual assaults, etc? Isn’t it amazing how the government refusing to allow citizens to defend themselves affects the crime rate?

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    • TomPFComment by TomPF
      February 12, 2013 @ 11:47 am

      bna42: Huh? I think you misunderstood my post. No, the sheriffs in CA, mostly in the southern large cities which are the most population dense, have an issue rate of something below 4% on CCW permits. You have to prepare a “Just Cause” statement to justify why you should be issued a permit, and very few make the cut. You have to be a doctor carrying or overseeing large amounts of drugs, a business owner carrying and transporting large amounts of money, or something of that nature. The vast majority of us can’t get a CCW permit, and crime is RAMPANT all over the place! Gangs, drugs, shootings, rapes, murders — we got ‘em all! Certainly no reason to let the population protect itself, right?!

      It was nice to see a Mayor and City Council uphold the Constitution and particularly individuals’ rights to defend themselves. It certainly doesn’t happen down here in CA!

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  30. exseabeeComment by exseabee
    February 11, 2013 @ 5:39 pm

    Another Liberal Pacifistic , (L.P.P.)! I live in SoCal and have a very good friend who has a concealed weapons license. I too feel very safe when out with him. Yea, don’t let the door hit you on the way out! LOL!

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  31. proudcitizenComment by proudcitizen
    February 11, 2013 @ 6:23 pm

    City councilman Almberg broke his oath to the office he holds and he should simply be impeached or resign as he did not act within his duties. He presumably serves the people who elected him and he is not following the letter of the law he swore to uphold. If he does not understand his duties he does not belong in that job.

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  32. proudcitizenComment by proudcitizen
    February 11, 2013 @ 6:29 pm

    As for Comment by “ohsaycanyousee” that “just because he served that does not give him the right to carry a concealed weapon…I think Sir you are missing the point. He has that right because the constituion and a legal permit gave him that right. Not all who served do have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, I presume you are one of those who does not have one and lack the knowledge to know the difference.

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