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Message to Teacher: Either Religious Items Go... or You Do

By Bobby Eberle

It's a question about common sense. When a high school has a gay and lesbian group and also has a Bible study group, why is it that the teacher involved with the Bible study group is the one coming under fire? But that's exactly what's happening at one school, where the teacher is being told to remove religious items from her classroom and not participate in the Bible study meetings or activities.

Yes, this story is for real, and it's just another example of how anything goes in today's high schools except Christianity, of course. As reported by WIVB Channel 4 in New York, a Cheektowaga high school science teacher is now fighting back with her own law suit.

Joelle Silver, a teacher at the school for seven years, says she received a "counseling letter" to remove the items from her classroom. The suit was filed against the district, President of the Board of Education Brian J. Gould, and Superintendent of Schools Dennis Kane.

The complaint filed by the AFLC claims other teachers and faculty at the school were not required to remove items of personal or religious speech. One of the arguments the document makes is in reference to a social worker at the school, who the complaint alleges, by contrast, is allowed to promote a "gay rights agenda."

According to the report, all of this started when one student... ONE... complained. And, of course, the student didn't go through the school system. Instead the student contacted the Freedom from Religion group, who is always willing to threaten legal action all in the effort to force God completely out of society.

The American Freedom Law Center (AFLC) has come to the aid of the teacher, Joelle Silver.

Robert Muise, AFLC Co-Founder and Senior Counsel, commented, "This is one of the most egregious examples of religious hostility I have witnessed in a public school. Ms. Silver does not cease being a Christian nor does she shed her constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate."

According to the "counseling letter," which is now a permanent part of Silver's employment file, failure to follow any of the directions would lead to "serious disciplinary consequences, including the termination of [her] employment."

The School District's hostility toward Silver's Christian faith was blatant, particularly in light of the fact that the School District permits other teachers and administrators to display in their classrooms and offices various messages and other items that reflect their personal viewpoints on a wide range of subject matter. For example, a social worker at the very same High School displays inside and outside of her office various messages that promote the "gay rights" agenda, including LGBT-themed posters and advertisements from activist organizations.

Here is a copy of the letter received by Joelle Silver.

But it's not just the religious items. As the WIVB report notes, the school is even coming down on Silver's participation in the school's Bible study group.

The complaint filed against the district also says Silver was told not to participate in the Bible Study Club's meetings or activities, so it could not be interpreted as being promoted by her or the district. The letter states Silver had a 'prayer box' in the classroom that was being used by the club throughout the school day and instructed her to remove it. The complaint alleges that, by contrast, the school's Gay Straight Alliance is allowed to have students participate in club activities during the school day.

When will it all end? This overt attack on Christianity is over the top, especially when one considers what other teachers can do, say, or promote at the same school.

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  1. petarkComment by petark
    January 14, 2013 @ 8:37 am

    I watched ‘For Greater Glory’ last night on Netflix. OK movie but very disturbing. The course taken by the Mexican government at the time to squash Roman Catholics (I’m not Catholic by the way)was eerie, representing the power of the government to suppress the religious freedom of its people (along with the help of the US government and oil interests) struck a chord with me. Could this happen to us? Is it already happening? We had better watch out.

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    • pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
      January 14, 2013 @ 10:28 am

      Good point, petark. You may have noticed that Hollywood hated that movie, the reviews that I read were scathing. I suspect the subject matter had a lot to do with that.

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    • BobinmsComment by Bobinms
      January 14, 2013 @ 11:26 am

      Throughout history, religion has provided a counter weight to the powers of government. Even in tribal cultures the was a shaman or medicine man. Traditionally, the Catholic church has been very strong in central/south America. So it’s not surprising that government seeks to reduce that influence.

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    • rolly0412Comment by rolly0412
      January 14, 2013 @ 12:54 pm

      Maybe Christians should be militant like the Muslims – then the Christians would not be taken for granted and stepped on upon.

      “Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34–39)

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    • sandyinindyComment by sandyinindy
      January 19, 2013 @ 11:25 am

      @ Comment by rolly, You ask that “Maybe Christians would not be stepped on if we were Militant?” Your question reminds me of the current argument on Gun Control: If citizens are armed, thugs would think twice before attacking. If this is a true statement, and I believe it is, yes I think Christians should become more vocal about our religion and carry a “Sword”.

      Thanks for your post!

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  2. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    January 14, 2013 @ 9:24 am

    Yes it is happening all around. You cannot talk about Jesus without having the world come down upon you. GOD is calling his people out of the world. Listen and heed.

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  3. pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:10 am

    Marching in lockstep, right down the path to Banana Republicville, aren’t we? If you are a parent, do whatever it takes to get your kids out of the public school systems, and that includes colleges. If you are a financially comfortable individual or family, with no school age kids or grandkids, do what you can to support parochial schools and colleges – maybe even sponsor a student or two to provide them with a quality private education. Private schools and college administrators: hire these high quality, morally upright teachers away from the public schools. Eventually, when all the public school kiddies know how to have every which kind of sex, but can’t think a thought on their own or write an intelligent sentence, when the country is sliding into oblivion on a river of it’s own dung, maybe someone will wise up and see what has become of us. Then, just maybe, the few remaining intelligent, well-educated, thinking people can save the nation. Until then, provide for your own families, support your friends, take control of your own lives and your own resources and hunker down. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

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    • usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
      January 14, 2013 @ 10:26 am

      Think I would remove the words “Well Educated”, because that is where these people originated from- the college graduates of a few years ago, along with the present graduates- example- ACLU are all college graduates-most even post graduate graduates……. Don’t get me wrong- not all of them are of this ilk, but there weren’t enough to fight the ones that I am talking about

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    • pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
      January 14, 2013 @ 10:38 am

      I understand what you are saying, usafoldsarge, but when I say well-educated, I mean educated in a private university, not a public school.

      “If I tell you only part of the evidence and you believe it, you have not been taught, you have been indoctrinated. If I tell you all of the evidence and you make a decision, then you have been taught.”

      In my opinion, the first half of that quote applies to public schools, the second to the private educations with which I am familiar.

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    • BeemergrannyComment by Beemergranny
      January 14, 2013 @ 11:04 am

      I am so thankful that some of my grand kids are being home schooled. They are using a religion based curricula and they are so far ahead of their “public schooled” friends. I truly believe that we are seeing more families choosing to go this route. The sad thing is,,,they still have to pay taxes to support public education and purchase all their own learning materials, but they don’t mind and are far better off for it. Home schooling groups all around the country are growing year by year. : ) Remember 1 Chronicles 7:14…”14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” Believe it, pray it, own it..every day.

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:03 pm

      Comment by pwpmmp,

      Hear, hear, I agree and have done for decades. In growing numbers, and with greater frequency, members of local school boards, heads of teacher’s unions, public school teachers, and administrators are speaking out for “home-schooling.” What do they know that most parents seem not to understand? That’s right, our public schools stink in most every way. Again, this morning, I walked by my “property-tax” bill; which has been sitting on a table for a week or two. For fifty years the sum due to them, which goes to pay for the local public schools, continues to grow. It never goes down. I have two choices to pay or not to pay. I understand, having read the laws, that should I not pay they can take my home and sell it at public auction. Anyway…I am awake and coffeed before the school bus stops at the corner at 7:10am and returns around 3:15pm. “Those poor kids,” I think to myself and say to my Labrador,(she is very well educated and at home too). With the advent of this wonderful tool, we are all using now, I see but two reasons not to home-school;(**footnote 1). Many parents use the public school system as a baby sitting service, a growing demand due to the increasing numbers of single mothers or single parents in general. The school system, (and it is most always refered to as a “system”) would love to have the children at the age of two, and they have been working on that…”brainwashed comrade…” I can think of a thousand and one reasons to keep your children at home for an education and to be able to take them to all things public on a regular basis like our museums, libraries, parks, arboretums, et al and private like farms, ranches, oil rigs, the ocean, the mountains, etc. What is a single parent to do >Comment by pwpmmp<?

      **1 Consider the dynamic of your favorite search engine. One types in their quest generally to Google. In return Google offers up say 500 different web sites that are suppose to contain the information you are looking for. They are "ranked" in order. We assume that their algorithms which are programed for their spidering method are 100%; meaning that link number 1 contains the most comprhensive and total amount of the information you are seeking. Link number two would then be the second best. Consider this, that their algorithms are way off and that which you really need to know is on link number 402.

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    • braines57Comment by braines57
      January 14, 2013 @ 2:33 pm

      I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. I believe that part of the reason that our public schools are being dominated by liberal agendas is that too many parents have either just home-schooled their kids or put them into parochial schools, instead of standing up for the rights of their children to an unbiased education. I am a single mom, so neither home-schooling nor private schools were ever an option for me and for a long time I worried about this; however, our kids have to live in the real world after they graduate and they had best know what they believe, why they believe it and be able to stand up for themselves and their rights to their beliefs in a respectful but firm manner. This liberal bias does not end with school – it continues on in the working world as well and I think we do a disservice to our children if we do not teach them how to interact with others who have different beliefs – even when they are outnumbered. I believe that this type of education begins at home, and should be taught along with religious beliefs. Both of my daughters are strong, independent young women. The youngest graduates from high school this spring. Both of them are capable of defending their beliefs in a classroom, respectfully but firmly, and they always earn the respect of their teachers and classmates – even many of those of the liberal persuasion. Because of this, I know that they will be less likely to be intimiated later in life, whether by a boss, co-worker or government official. They know what they believe, why they believe it and what their rights are with respect to their beliefs. If more of the people who you would encourage to support parochial schools or sponsor kids to go to parochial schools took the time to volunteer and be active within their local school system, our educational system would be in much better shape. Even now, I can tell the difference between school districts where the majority of parents take an active role and those where the parents leave it all up to the schools. The ability to affect change starts with us and it is up to each of us to accept that responsibility – it is the same whether you are talking about parenting or citizenship.

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 14, 2013 @ 2:58 pm

      braines57 … I believe you have the cart before the horse. Public schools are not being dominated by liberals because parents choose other options. The fact is, parents choose other options because the public schools are overrun by liberal philosophies and teachers.

      As for your girls, what they learned in public school is one thing: reading, writing, math, necessary skills for life. But if they are as strong and prepared in all the other things that matter as you say they are (I don’t have any reason to doubt your word, I believe you), they got that from you, not from public schools. Congratulations, single mom. My own mom was a single mom. In fact, she was actually a single step-mom as my dad died and I never knew my natural mother. I know how hard it can be, and if your girls are as prepared in all the other important aspects of life as you say they are, then take some credit for it. You earned the right.

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  4. whodunitComment by whodunit
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:21 am

    Freedom of religion is, and always has been, one of the basic principles of the United States. That means freedom to practice Christianity as well. The liberals seem to have forgotten this, but then again, they don’t relish freedom as much as conservatives do.

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    • greylady68Comment by greylady68
      January 14, 2013 @ 11:29 am

      They seem to think the Constitution says Freedom FROM religion instead of Freedom OF religion. Strange thing, though, it only seem to apply to Christianity and Judaism.

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    • muddyseafrogComment by muddyseafrog
      January 14, 2013 @ 12:34 pm

      Greylady68; Just curious – I’ve seen a lot of this directed against Christianity, but never Judaism. Perhaps you could enlighten me about where this takes place? Seriously, I’ve seen folks get their panties in a knot about a Christmas Tree and Christmas, but never a Menorah or Hanukkah. Come to think of it, most times I’ve seen Freedom of or “From” Religion, it’s usually being spearheaded by a Jewish person or group such as the ACLU.

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    • oldguy39Comment by oldguy39
      January 14, 2013 @ 12:41 pm

      Jurupa high school, in Southern California, allows Seikh students to wear ceremonial daggers, because of their religion. I’ll bet they draw the line at wearing a cross though.

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    • pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:05 pm

      muddyseafrog, you are correct in noticing that Christians are bearing the brunt of this. Jews are somewhat protected because of what they went through under Hitler, they have political correctness on their side as long as they don’t come to the aid of Christians. Muslims, of course, are under the full political correct umbrella as are Hispanics, African Americans, and gays. That tide can shift, however, as the left gains strength.

      What so many of their blind followers don’t realize is that the left has no respect for God, for life, for country, or even for their followers. They are shape-shifters, using whatever or whoever gets them what they want at the time. They don’t have a creed, a God, a loyalty, or a line they won’t cross if it serves their purposes. They have no values. Eventually, they will “come for you,” no matter who you are, when they want to use you or to take what you have. It’s kind of like the kid in third grade who says, “I’ll be your friend if you do such and such, or give me whatever, otherwise, look out.”

      What the left perceives as our “weakness” is that we are loyal and true to our beliefs. We will help anyone, no matter what they believe or what their lifestyle, if they need help. We won’t agree with them, but we will stand by them because they are our countrymen and women. The left hates that because it’s a mirror they don’t want to look into. They are trying to force us to change, and many of us are changing, because they can’t take the heat.

      It is my strongest hope that, if we stand firm and hold to our beliefs, if we live good and decent lives, if we live out our faiths without hesitation, people will wake up and see that we are not the enemy, we are the friend.

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:15 pm

      This is a premier example of what a public education will get you. So many people either pretend to have read The Constitution or they have read it and do not comprehend it.
      How many times have you heard people, citizens of the United States say that The Constitution states “The separation of church and state.” Morons, I conclude that this is their second-hand understanding because I have never found it in my copy of The Constitution.

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  5. JDZComment by JDZ
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:31 am

    Our freedoms are being gradually taken away from us spurred by special interest groups and this obsession with political correctness that has taken over the country. My question is why hasn’t our judicial system been more zealous in the protection of all individual freedoms has described in the Bill of Rights? We now have the tail wagging the dog in almost every aspect of our lives and I blame the American Bar Association and our very liberal and wimpy judges for allowing our culture to go so far off track. When Christianity, which has been instrumental in the foundation of country, is now considered to be radical and a negative in our culture, we have reached a dangerous tipping point in our country.

    It is clear to me that our country has gone off track in so many ways that are not good for the country as a whole. The Obama administration has just made it worse with their zealous social justice attitude, uncontrolled borrowing and spending, the expansion of the government through regulations into very aspect of our lives, a total lack of interest in bringing our fiscal situation under control, and their inability to turn around our overall economy. It is INSANITY to the max.

    I have to ask myself, who is seeing these obvious problems from the wrong perspective, the Obama administration and the 52% of voters who voted to re-elect Obama, or the rest of us? Who is really in denial of what is happening, and why are they ignoring what appears to me, to be obvious? It is almost like the world is upside down as almost every country is in financial trouble and attempting to ignore the obvious just like our government.

    We are heading for some form of economic and social disaster and it is not going to be pretty. Our government has lost its way and are unwilling to change its priorities and deal with the critical problems first instead of politically driven issues just to stay in office. They are behaving like the Captain of a ship who is realigning the deck chairs while the ship is sinking. INSANITY and IRRESPONSIBLE!

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    • rattlerjakeComment by rattlerjake
      January 14, 2013 @ 12:37 pm

      A friend sent me this video showing the relationship between socialism, marxism, and communism and how democrats and Obama all relate. Sorry for length of this video. It speaks a serious message! This is an absolutely must see video. Take the time to watch this. It is truly unbelievable. Don’t let your ideology get in the way. Keep an open mind. http: //vimeo . com/52009124

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

      “It is almost like the world is upside down as almost every country is in financial trouble and attempting to ignore the obvious just like our government.”

      JDZ, I think it can be explained by the following scripture:

      “because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools. — Romans 1:21-22

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  6. empty pocketsComment by empty pockets
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:32 am

    Those who aren’t Christians such as Jews and even Muslims should beware. It’s over used but remember that the Nazis went after the Jews…first. But they also murdered priests and nuns…and gypsies…and millions of non-Jews in their extermination camps. In fact more non-Jews than Jews though they represented the largest (by far) single group.

    Comes under “gotta start somewhere”. The ultimate goal is the same as the extremist Muslims, to “convert” all to THEIR religion which is the State. History shows us that eventually, those who won’t “convert” are imprisoned and/or killed. If there is no religious freedom for some, there will soon enough be no religious freedom for any.

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  7. peter1589Comment by peter1589
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:38 am

    Sin and Satan: the Opposite and Enemy of Love

    Now if love is the essence of our Christian life, and if our goal is to grow in this love for God and neighbor so as to someday be perfectly united to God in heaven, we need to know what is the biggest obstacle to that love. You all know what that obstacle is: sin; or more precisely, sin and the devil. Many don’t like to talk about such things anymore. They want to make it a thing of the past. “Oh, that’s what the sisters used to teach about in the old days; we don’t believe that anymore.” We sure do.

    The fact is that there is a war raging right this very moment. It’s far bloodier than any war in history. The enemy, ruthless beyond imagining, and it’s led by a commander more skillful than Caesar, Attila the Hun and Patton put together. We are standing in the midst of the battlefield, and the stakes are high—because the fight is over your immortal soul. The enemy is Satan and his legion of demons, numbering in the millions, maybe even billions (Padre Pio once said that there are so many demons in the world that, if they were given physical bodies, they would block out the entire sun!); and these demons will stop at nothing, nothing, in order to drag us down to hell, or better in order to get us to throw ourselves into hell.

    Those among us today who have served in the military will surely tell us that one of the most basic tactics in war is to learn about your enemy: how he attacks, how he retreats, etc. And the more one knows ahead of time, the better prepared he is to fight and the greater his chances for victory. And so, it’s fitting that from time to time we review the devil’s tactics lest we forget and lose our soul.

    The first thing that we must do in order to defeat the devil and shun all his snares is simply to recognize that he really does exist, he and all his demon followers. They are spirits, fallen angels, who have been condemned to everlasting punishment in hell but are allowed to roam about this world for a time, tempting man. It’s strange that today, when the presence of evil and sin is so widespread, so many want to deny this simple truth—a truth to which Sacred Scripture attests many times. In fact, the devil is mentioned 32 times in the New Testament; demons are mentioned 77 times in the New Testament and 12 in the Old; Satan is mentioned by name 14 times in the Old Testament and 32 in the New. These are not just expressions used to signify some kind of abstract evil presence; they are real creatures, creatures who hate mankind and will stop at nothing to lead us into sin. If you want to be defeated by the devil, just deny his existence; that’s exactly what he wants—a criminal works best when his victims deny his very presence, and the devil works best amidst the darkness of ignorance, because then he can appear as an angel of light. It is this fact which led Fr. Gabriel Amorth, the chief exorcist of Rome, to write his book called An Exorcist Tells His Story.

    Having performed literally thousands of exorcisms, Fr. Amorth is convinced that one of the gravest evils of our day is the complete denial of the existence of the devil—even by Catholics, and, may God have mercy, even by priests and bishops. And so, the first step in defeating the devil is recognizing that this “father of lies” really does exist and is alive and active in our world.

    Having exposed the devil, the next thing we must do is learn his method of attack and how to resist. We must remember that Satan and all the devils are far stronger, faster, more intelligent, more powerful in every way on the natural level than we can ever be. On our own without the help of God we are destined for defeat. It’s as simple as that. Only a fool would try to fight an entire army on his own; only a fool would think that he does not need God’s constant help and protection from the devil. So a humble submission to God and constant recourse to Him in prayer is necessary.

    Now, the devil is too smart to start with an all-out open attack. Instead, he starts his attack slowly, with something small: a little gossip, a quick glance at something impure, a little lie, skipping our daily prayers. Think about how he attacked Adam and Eve: he just simply raised some doubts in Eve’s mind, “Did God really say not to eat of the tree?” At that moment Eve ought to have fled, but instead she dialogued with the him. She began to doubt God’s words—the beginning of her fall. How often we hear, “After all, it’s only a venial sin. It’s not that bad.” Or, “Well, I accept most of the Church’s teachings, but not all of them.” But every sin and every disbelief of even the smallest of the Church’s teachings is an offense against God, a tiny victory for the devil. And you can be sure that he who does not mind falling into venial sins will soon be committing ones which are mortal; and he who rejects some of the Church’s teachings will soon reject them all. As C. S. Lewis once said, Indeed the safest road to Hell is the gradual one—the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. To lead a good life you must resist temptation right from the very beginning; do not give the devil even an inch, or he will take all, even your soul.

    Next, as our Blessed Lord teaches in the Gospels, we must never tempt God: You shall not put the Lord, your God, to the test. This is a grave warning to those who are inclined to think, “It doesn’t matter what kind of life I lead; I’ll just make sure I go to Confession right before I die.” As if they can demand God’s mercy whenever they want! Our good God, in fact, gives us plenty of chances to repent, plenty of opportunities for forgiveness…and yet the lines at the confessionals are always so small. By tempting God you are falling into the devil’s snares in the worst way: you are imitating him. Another way we open the door to Satan is by keeping hatred and rancor in our hearts— holding grudges, not forgiving offenses. Fr. Gabriel Amorth stated that one of the chief causes of demonic possession is a hateful and unforgiving heart. Remember, where there is no charity there is no Christ; and where there is no Christ the devil reigns supreme. Now only a traitor lets the enemy into his own camp. Remember, don’t open the door even a little to the enemy.

    So what do you do if the devil gets in, if you are face to face with him, so to speak, if the temptation to sin is right at your doorstep? Resist the devil, says Scripture, and he will take flight. Prayer, frequent reception of the sacraments and fasting. No one can resist temptation, whether it come from the devil or from ourselves, without these wonderful aids. Knowing man’s weakness and the devil’s power, God has granted us so many helps to our salvation; we would be absolute fools not to make frequent use of them. These can only be cast out by prayer and fasting, Christ said. The chief exorcist of Rome, again, makes the profound observation that the sacrament of Confession is even more powerful than an exorcism, and that those in the state of mortal sin are worse off than those who suffer demonic possession; for, the possessed are not responsible for their actions, whereas those in the state of mortal sin are. Call on God for help and make ample use of the many means He has given us. Holy water, sacramentals like the Rosary and the scapular and sacred images, daily prayer, fasting. All these things really do work; that’s why God gave them to us. If we really knew how well-armed is the soul who prays, is in the state of grace and uses sacramentals and the sacraments, we would never neglect these holy weapons.

    Finally, rule number four: never give up the fight. Holy Job said that the life of man upon earth is a constant warfare. Until we leave this world we will be engaged in a battle which has already been won by the Blood of Christ. We just need to stay close to our Lord and our Lady and keep fighting. Be calm and trust in God’s love for you and His infinite power. He is a King Who will never abandon His troops.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 14, 2013 @ 7:12 pm

      Good commentary but since I am not a Catholic I do not believe in the RCC religion regarding their rituals but I do believe what the Bible says about the Devil and his angels. We do need to realize that we as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ have the creatures of darkness to deal with through the power of the Holy Spirit. I can imagine how busy they are in WDC.
      James 4:7 Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
      1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
      We KNOW that God is in control, and that He DOES fight for us. So do not be discouraged by any news; it would be right up Satan’s alley. Take courage, For He that is in you is far greater than he that is in the world! 1 Jn.4:4
      Isaiah 14:12-14How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
      13 -For thou hast said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
      14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
      Ezekiel 28:13-19
      13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering:
      The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper;
      The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared.
      14″You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.
      15″You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you.
      16″By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned;
      Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire.
      17″Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor I cast you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you.
      18″By the multitude of your iniquities, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you.
      19″All who know you among the peoples Are appalled at you; You have become terrified
      And you will cease to be forever.”‘”

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  8. josemledonComment by josemledon
    January 14, 2013 @ 11:40 am

    I GOD WE TRUST
    Most American believe In God.This is not some Christian,right wing,political push,bud a fact,because Christian men and women,on Christian principles,founded this nation,and this is clearly documented It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.If God offend you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home,because God is part of our culture.!

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  9. justathoughtComment by justathought
    January 14, 2013 @ 11:43 am

    Maybe the outcome will be that people realise that respect, love and tolerance are traits worth having, and that over-powering religious dogma or special-interest groups are merely elements of a transition phase on the way to something more wholesome.

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  10. zman17084Comment by zman17084
    January 14, 2013 @ 11:46 am

    I left a comment on the school districts own page, directed to their admin office. I would recommend if you do same, be civil. I’m sure they expect some retort, but posting there isn’t posting here. There you are speaking to “their face,” Here we are speaking with them “out of the room.” Just saying.

    http://www.cheektowagacentral.org/highschool.cfm

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 14, 2013 @ 7:23 pm

      I just sent one as well. Thanks for the info.

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  11. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    January 14, 2013 @ 12:00 pm

    Is this what will ( finally) propel the good people??

    Obamamama is already allowing Israel to fend for itself by arming KNOWN chicago connected mobrohood with goods

    add to that the Unions ( hey is the teacher part of a Union? if yes, why arent they helping) who will crush opposition are helping to destroy America by forcing companies to go overseas with their outrageuous anti consumer/ taxpayers demands

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:29 pm

      Uh …. I grew up in Texas. It’s a long ways from Chicago …. please explain… what’s a “mobrohood”?

      ahhh… never mind … I don’t think I want to know.

      LOL

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  12. tps12Comment by tps12
    January 14, 2013 @ 12:22 pm

    Our government believes in divide and concur, their going after on group at a time one freedom at a time.

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    • shellyComment by shelly
      January 14, 2013 @ 9:52 pm

      tps12: You mean “divide and conquer”!

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  13. kskiddComment by kskidd
    January 14, 2013 @ 12:51 pm

    Two points I would like to make:

    The first is that I was listening to a radio broadcast today, a preacher. I will not give his name here, but say that only to say this is not really my own thinking, but I think the point he made was right.

    We hear a lot today from liberals about abortion. They call it the right to choose, a woman’s health issue and conservatives call it an issue about killing babies. We hear a lot about gay rights. Easy divorce, living together, all kinds of things going on but the real issue all boils down to sex, not love.

    Pro-abortion people aren’t fighting for the right to kill babies; they are fighting for the rights of women to have sex as they choose, and if a baby gets in the way, they kill it.

    The gay rights people, and assorted similar sexual perversion groups are also fighting for sexual rights, not equal rights.

    The Sandra Fluke issue about who pays for her protection is also a sex rights issue, as is the pronouncement by our president that all tax payers must help pay for abortions and the so called “morning after” pill.

    The point the preacher was making is that just about all of the major social issues tearing the country apart stem from one common theme: sexuality.

    This is why the left is making every effort to marginalize the Bible, the Christian faith, and they attack the Catholic Church for the same reason the old western marshal Dillon always shot the fastest guy first when he had to deal with more than one bad guy … The Catholic Church (I am not Catholic) is the “big boy on the block” so to speak. It is the largest Christian denomination. So, they get hit the hardest, the fastest and the most often by the ‘freedom from religion’ crowd.
    Of course, any individual or organization that proclaims Jesus Christ as lord is a target for them. Why? Because sexual freedom is limited by the Bible. That is the primary reason it is constantly attacked. To the left, government is the supreme authority and any one who doesn’t recognize that is a bigoted, hateful, extremist bigot.

    Second point, and I know this one may tick off a few Christians: I am Christian myself. But I believe there are well over 2500 denominations in the Country. Back in the day, when prayer was a part of our school system, prayers were said in a pretty much ‘generic’ fashion. They were acceptable to any one who was a Christian.

    But when it comes to a teacher participating in a Bible study program in the school, I’m sorry, but I think that is wrong. Why? For the same reason I don’t think gays should be allowed to promote their agenda, the same reason I don’t think socialists should be able to teach against capitalism and free enterprise, the same reason I don’t think a teacher should be able to stomp on our flag and tell the kids it’s just a symbol that means nothing.

    What goes into my kids heads is mine to govern, at least as much as possible in today’s America. A teacher in a class room has a responsibility to teach kids what they need to know to function in our society, and I do believe the Christian religion is necessary in order to maintain a free society. But I am sure most would agree that not every thing that calls itself “Christian” is in fact Christian.

    I don’t want my kids coming home telling me that if I don’t speak in tongues and if I say that doesn’t prove one has the Holy Spirit, I am guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost and I’m going to hell. I don’t want a public school teacher teaching something like that in a class to her ‘captive audience’. Nor do I want a teacher teaching my kids that Joseph Smith has a new gospel (or what ever) that he received from the angle Moroni.

    I don’t say this to disparage other religious faiths. I have beliefs I am sure others would not want taught to their kids by me if I were a teacher. For example, I believe that baptism is an obedient response to the gospel, a work of God, not of man, and I believe it is essential for salvation. I know any Baptist reading this will have objection to it. They wouldn’t want me teaching their kids my beliefs in the school room, even after hours in a kids Bible study group, and I agree, I shouldn’t, and wouldn’t.

    My point is, public school teachers should not be involved in Bible study groups with kids. I do believe that Bible study groups during off hours on school property are as acceptable as any other kind of group, kids activity. But I don’t believe people other wise in authority over the kids should be involved. As a parent, if my kids were in such a group, I consider it my responsibility to know what the group is teaching and decide if my children are to participate. But, again, I do NOT believe school teachers should be involved in that because I believe that it matters not only if kids believe in Jesus Christ, it also matters WHAT they believe concerning Christ.

    This is a perfect example of why I don’t want ‘the village’ raising my kids. Their spiritual growth and development is my responsibility, not only because I say so, but because God makes me responsible over them in that area of their lives. I will not allow a school teacher to usurp my authority over my kids where religion is concerned any more than I would allow it where politics, homosexuality, abortion or “what” to think instead of “how” to think are concerned.

    I do think that if the majority of the students wish to have a “prayer box” in a class room, so long as it remains discreet and is not made an issue by the teacher, that should be acceptable. I also think the teacher, if professing to be a Christian, should be able to read the prayer request and pray for the kids. But the teachers prayers should not be a “public” issue among the kids and it should not be contrary to the wishes of any individual child’s parents. It is one thing to preach and teach to adults who want to learn or need to hear, but to side-track kids on religious issues where denominational differences come into play, or even to the child whose parents are atheist, in an environment where they are part of the proverbial “captive audience” is to subvert the households of their parents. I don’t want my kids thinking subverted by teachers with a personal agenda in other ways, and when it comes right down to it the same applies to religion.

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:22 pm

      Uh… PS: I do believe it is correct to teach the true history of our country concerning the role of Christianity and the true thinking of our founders. That is not the same thing as teaching specific denominational dogmas. History is history, religion is religion and there should be a distinction made in the class room. “Render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasers’ and unto God the things that are God’s” The class room is “Ceasars’ domain” as it were, it is right to teach correct history concerning the influence of Christianity in our founding and history. But it is wrong to direct the religious thinking of children to suit ones own personal perspective.

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  14. shafawnComment by shafawn
    January 14, 2013 @ 1:13 pm

    Why is it ok to teach the history of positive influence of religion and culture of Islam to high school kids but not ok to teach the positive influence of Christianity right here in America at the time America was created?

    Simple answer… They hate God

    They don’t want to come to God because their deeds will be exposed and they do not want to change. For this reason they not only do evil things but approve of those who do them also. They will support and approve of any religion other than the saving grace of Christ.

    And that is the world and it will not change.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 14, 2013 @ 7:31 pm

      You are absolutely right!
      Luke 18:27 But He said, “The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”
      Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD,”Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD”
      Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?

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  15. vcamcoComment by vcamco
    January 14, 2013 @ 1:15 pm

    The “secular, athiest liberal political correct” minions, will continue to attack Christianity and religion per se, until the get consistantly defeated in their attacks, and it becomes too expensive for them.

    The only thing those “birds” understand, is a FIGHT ! Bring the fight to them, and they collapse.They are basically “weasel” type cowards.

    This complaint of “one” person is ludicrous,farcical !

    Christianity, needs to become more militant, in this culture War !

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 14, 2013 @ 1:39 pm

      “Christianity, needs to become more militant, in this culture War !”

      I hope you’re kidding. Christianity, by it’s very nature, is not a militant, warrior endeavor. It is true, Christianity gets the blame for every war that ever happened while the people who caused the extermination of more millions of people in the 20th century than in all other previous centuries combined do not get the blame when religion is discussed. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada Saddam Hussein and the like never get blamed for wars and/or mass exterminations of people. Nor was any one of them a Christian fighting in the name of Christ. … A lot of those who stopped them were, but instead of getting the credit, they get the blame.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 14, 2013 @ 2:11 pm

      “Christianity, by it’s very nature, is not a militant, warrior endeavor.”

      kskidd, Jesus himself said: ““Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.” — Matthew 10:34

      He did not intend for Christians to cower and refuse to defend their beliefs when attacked by the evil people who try to destroy them. We should never allow false religions, corrupt governments, or evil agencies push us out of society as second-class citizens because we choose to believe God and the Bible.

      Why are Muslims allowed to block the streets in New York City on Friday afternoons for prayer when Christians are not permitted to pray in public at any public event? Why doesn’t the ACLU fight against Muslims rather than Christians? The simple answer is that the ACLU are a bunch of cowards and AFRAID of Muslims because they know that Muslims fight back.

      The Christian church has been forced underground during periods of persecution, but the Church will never be destroyed because Jesus said “the gates of hell would not prevail against it”. The Christians in our society have been marginalized, humiliated, and discredited by ungodly people while they refuse to stand up for themselves and their savior.

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 14, 2013 @ 2:31 pm

      bna42: I believe you are misunderstand ing what Jesus meant when he said “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.”

      This is the sword that he brought: “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” ~Heb 4:12

      And he said: “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”~John 18:36

      And to Peter, when he was arrested, he said “.. Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? ~ John 18:11

      Yes, there is a time to fight, but to take up arms and go to war against ones own government is not one of them. Not with a physical sword, any way, unless it becomes absolutely necessary, as it did in 1776. I don’t think we are at that point just yet, and if we were, I would say what Mel Gibson said in the movie “The Patriot” … “This war will not be fought on foreign fields. It will be fought among us, among our own homes. Our children will learn of it with their own eyes.”

      Until it becomes necessary to sink to that depth, Christians have no business declaring war. When it is declared on us, and I don’t mean by the media or Hollywood, I mean by a government willing to kill us, then I suppose the argument may be made that we have no choice. But at this point, we do still have that choice.

      Besides, as much as it pains me to see what goes on in America today, the fact is that America is part of this fallen world. It is not the kingdom of Heaven,it will never be the “perfect” place to live, and things will get worse, and worse, because we (America) like it or not, are of this world.

      The good news is that where ever this world (and maybe our country) are heading in the proverbial hand basket, Christians aren’t going. :)

      As for the rest of your comment, about Muslims, the ACLU (I like to call them the American Communist Lawyers Union) and the persecution of the church, I agree entirely with your sentiments, accept to say that even if America and the whole world goes literally to hell, the Lords church, which is not of this world, will stand and never be destroyed. But this is of God, not of “Christian soldiers” fighting here in this world.

      As for the marginalization, humiliation and discrediting of Christians here in America, there are only two things I can say: 1) The Lord knows all about those things, not only from watching us, but from a very, personal experience on the cross. 2) There are countries in the world, many of them, where Christians are put to death for their faith, imprisoned. We are not. Perhaps we should be counting blessings while we worry about the future :)

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      January 14, 2013 @ 7:32 pm

      We’ve read the end of the Bible in the book of Revelation. We know that the world turns against Christians. We know Christians will be martyred and somewhere in there the rapture will take place. (And many who thought they would rapture with Jesus are left behind because they know about Him but they don’t know Him – 10 foolish and 10 wise virgins) Make sure YOU know Him.

      We can’t stop it from happening. Nobody knows the hour or the day but I think you would have to be blind not to be able to see we are in the season that it will happen and the signs that mark it’s happening are occurring exponentially.

      Once the United States is no longer a super power that centrifugal force of good and evil on earth will shift.
      Up until now the world has been able to rely on the United States keeping the peace and or also stepping in when a dictator steps out of line and tries to abuse and otherwise harm the population.
      The bigger picture here is not only will Americans not be able to protect themselves but the United States will no longer be in a position to help anybody else on the planet either. We’re moving “forward” towards the fiscal cliff and it’s not a pot hole. It’s more like the Grand Canyon and that very uncompromising fact is still the driving force for gun control. They don’t want us armed when it happens.

      I am a Christian. I believe Jesus died for the world and God is passionate about saving every single person in it with His free gift of grace. I don’t know how I feel about going to war on American soil to fight other Americans.
      Everyone wants something done but everyone wants somebody else to do it. I see that too. Nobody knows what to do.

      I would rather see Obama impeached. I would rather see the Americans turn back to Jesus. I would love God to raise up another Billy Graham. I pray for revival to sweep across this country and turn the hearts of men and women back to God.
      I believe that is the only true and real answer. I believe in my heart it’s what God wants.
      But as always it’s up to us. Please keep praying for our country. Please don’t let distraction and frustration stop you from praying for America

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 14, 2013 @ 7:40 pm

      kskidd, while it is true that the Bible is the sword you mentioned, I also think that Jesus was insisting that his disciples protect themselves because before he sent them out as witnesses in Luke 22:36 he insisted that if they didn’t have a sword they should sell their garment and buy one.

      The reason he rebuked Peter in the garden for pulling a sword and cutting off the soldier’s ear was because Peter wanted to stop them from arresting Jesus which would have been against the will of God. Jesus understood that this was the time because he had already prayed all night and had asked God to remove this “cup” from him if there was any other way. Peter was interfering with the plan of salvation and the fulfillment of prophecy so Jesus had to stop him.

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  17. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    January 14, 2013 @ 4:42 pm

    I can’t help but to have a disturbed feeling when I hear that AFLC is harassing someone. They claim that their motto is “Freedom from Religion” as stated in the First Amendment.
    The First Amendment says no such thing. And, they haven’t changed it. They still promote such a purpose. What the First Amendment says is: Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…etc. Question: Did you see where it says “freedom from religion”?
    Ms Silver also, according to the First Amendment, can redress her grievances.

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  18. joe23006Comment by joe23006
    January 14, 2013 @ 4:49 pm

    Recently I watched two movies on television; ‘Captain from Castile’ and ‘Goya’s Ghosts’. Both dealt in someway with the effects of The Holy Inquisition and the rooting outof heretics. In most cases the reason was political or bringing independent thinkers to heal!

    This is the secular equivalent of that heinous witchhunt. Conservatives must be brought to heel rather than heal the canon law of progressiveness, handed down from Olympus by St. Woodrow to St. Franklin to God-Emperor Barach. Judeo-Christianity is a threat to progressivism because of the concrete base that is not easily maneuvered into contrary positions by outside influence.

    The free love, anything goes, if it feels good do it rebellion generation is now the establishnent and it feels threatened because it was a minority then and remains so. So what better than to embrace any cause which thumbs collective noses at those who continue to feel there are rules limiting behavior which in the end is destructive.

    “We are to be little Christs to the world.” courtesy Martin Luther. Joelle Silver and many others live by that rule, a rock, and it irritates liberals because their base is like a sand dune, shifting according to the change of wind and water and easily dispersed.

    What better tactic than to undermine the opposition? They will not be able go that deep without burying themselves in the backfill!

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  19. thomasjeffersonComment by thomasjefferson
    January 14, 2013 @ 5:29 pm

    Message to school board: Freedom OF religion not Freedom FROM Religion.

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  20. timeforjusticeComment by timeforjustice
    January 14, 2013 @ 5:33 pm

    Could the person who made this post please tell me where that comment/quote came from?

    Comment by pwpmmp
    January 14, 2013 @ 10:38 am
    I understand what you are saying, usafoldsarge, but when I say well-educated, I mean educated in a private university, not a public school.

    “If I tell you only part of the evidence and you believe it, you have not been taught, you have been indoctrinated. If I tell you all of the evidence and you make a decision, then you have been taught.”

    In my opinion, the first half of that quote applies to public schools, the second to the private educations with which I am familiar.

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  21. truedeelComment by truedeel
    January 14, 2013 @ 6:39 pm

    At one time I honestly thought these outrageous instances of Christian bias was just a few well intended, but misguided individual. I am now convinced it is much more than that and believe a conscious effort exists to silence Christianity once and for all. Although not all the detractors are atheists or even non-Christian, they do share the same angst with the Christian faith. In short it is about hating to be reminded that an immutable truth exists and that God dictates what is right and what is wrong, not man. Too many people don’t want to hear that message and so as the old adage goes out of sight out of mind.

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  22. pkeyrichComment by pkeyrich
    January 14, 2013 @ 6:55 pm

    If this were a Muslim activity, would treatment be the same?

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  24. willyrhoComment by willyrho
    January 15, 2013 @ 11:40 am

    The President and his minions are Anti-Christ. What do you expect from the government? Pro Righteousness? Expect subtle Evil at first, then as the Evil takes over, expect our society to become more and more EVIL and intolerant of Righteousness. The Evil ones and the deceived ones are gradually taking over and with them, they’re on a roll. As the Evil President gains more and more power, expect more and more vileness. What is obvious is obvious. The evidence that our Nation is doomed is the election of a Total Fraud and 50.1% of the people love free stuff.

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