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Commentator on Christmas: 'Religion mucks the whole thing up'

By Bobby Eberle

I think I've now heard it all. In a recent segment on NBC's "Today" show, some left wing commentator spoke out against Christmas, saying that "religion is what mucks the whole thing up." Are you kidding me? She said that holidays are made "stressful" because of religion. Excuse me, but I'm pretty sure that Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Right?

The commentator is Nancy Snyderman who is NBC's medical editor. Here's what she had to say:

Now, we can analyze her comments, but what also bugs me is all the laughter that erupts following her comments. Is this supposed to be funny? Isn't one person on that panel shocked that she is put out by the religion of a religious holiday?

As noted in the report from the Media Research Center, this isn't the first time Snyderman has made such an anti-religious holiday remark.

During a November 27 panel discussion on Today, co-host Savannah Guthrie wondered if Christmas was becoming too commercialized: "We ask the question, as Charlie Brown did so long ago, isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is really all about? Has it just gone crazy?"

In response, Snyderman fretted: "Well, the fact that you just said 'Christmas,' I think, is the hot-button item because people say 'Happy Holidays,' they don't know what to say." A puzzled Guthrie replied: "Oh, that's a whole other story."

Snyderman then described what she liked most about Thanksgiving: "...one of those great American holidays where there are no presents, there is no religion, and you really get to give thanks."

This is so crazy, I don't even know where to begin. But more and more, this is what we are inundated with by the media, by the schools, by stores and supermarkets, and just about every other public venue. It's ok to celebrate Christmas, just as long as you don't mention Christ? I don't think so, and I'm sure NBC could find a medical editor who actually has a brain.

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  1. inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
    December 13, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

    Christmas is about Christ, Thanksgiving is about giving Thanks to God for the blessings which those inconvenient Christian Pilgims created the Holiday for, not for the Turkeys who get consumed on Chirstmas and Thanksgiving or the Liberal Progressive Self-God Turkeys who get consumed daily in taxes by the Government God they worship. Our God provides blessings, where theirs just demands and consumes the blessings that God produces for them. A Powerless Progressive Government God indeed whose fallibility and lack of power or reason will soon be as self-evident in economic and moral bankruptcy to those who worship him, as the fecund creative blessings of our God are self-evident to us who believe and produce and multiply and create while they on the other hand just diminish themselves and all who beleive in their religion of SELF who follow them.

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    • stanwolcottComment by stanwolcott
      December 13, 2012 @ 4:01 pm

      I have a simple explanation for this outlook by Ms. Snyderman, which was heartily guffawed in by Matt Lauer as well. Both are Jewish and Christmas is a Christian holiday. It’s as simple as that. It’s not their religious observance, so [Christian] religion would in their view, “muck everything up.” God forbid if one of the goyim on the panel had made a similar comment about Hanukkuh! There would have been a firestorm, not unlike those of the Islamic faith about imagined slights.

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    • 123defenderComment by 123defender
      December 13, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

      NANCY—– CHRIST IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON

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    • truthbetoldComment by truthbetold
      December 13, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

      I have a solution to this whole argument about keeping the Christ in Christmas. We treat Christmas as a civil holiday every 25th of December closing banks, stores, post offices, government offices, etc. We know December 25 is not really Christ’s birthday. Indeed the Orthodox Greek and Russian churches celebrate in January. Why not establish Christ’s birthday as the fourth Sunday in December similar to Easter Sunday and Thanksgiving? It would make it a religious holiday on a religious day and everyone, who cared to could go to church. The stores would not lose a shopping day, the government would not get a free day off and we could put the Christ back in Christmas to his honor and devotion.

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    • CarmineComment by Carmine
      December 13, 2012 @ 9:40 pm

      The fourth Sunday in December sounds good. Considering that He was probably born in late August anyway does it really matter what day we celebrate?

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    • BadgerComment by Badger
      December 15, 2012 @ 8:40 am

      Christmas is for Christ? Gee, I thought it was a celebration of Lyndon Johnson … you know, Santa Johnson who rained money down on all the po people … wasn’t that the first Christmas? If if it’s not in the schoolbooks now it will be before long.

      We should give these fools what they want … Supposedly 75% to 80% of this nation have some form of religion, so if religion is not involved in Christmas all religious people should abandon it .. QUIT SPENDING MONEY ON A HOLIDAY THAT NO LONGER MEANS ANYTHING … see how fast all these talking heads do 180 along with all the string pulling pols who who act as their puppet masters. All these people live off of the fact you spend money on the stuff they advertise … Breshnev said in the late 50′s the commies would take over this country without firing a shot … they had too because this nation is the bread basket to the world … if they destroyed it the whole world would suffer … we have to save this country the same way, and cutting off the money flow to these idiots would be the best place to start.

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      December 15, 2012 @ 5:30 pm

      No Comment.
      No, wait a second. This very dynamic of comments and recomments plays right into this same old song, and it ain’t a Christmas Carol.
      As I celebrate the birth of Christ with my loved ones…..
      As Christians we are taught to do our good deeds and acts of love and kindness and then shut the hell-up about them, (Mat:6). That may be one very good reson why we have allowed these people to speak more loudly and more frequently. They need to shut the hell-up, we have allowed them to run their mouths in their attempt to destroy our religious celebrations.

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  2. JCMartinComment by JCMartin
    December 13, 2012 @ 2:36 pm

    The world is full of idiots (Snyderman is just one example). Now they are all registered to vote. The end of the republic is at hand.

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    • dbamichaelComment by dbamichael
      December 13, 2012 @ 3:53 pm

      Ain’t that the truth. They vote AND procreate. We are doomed.

      CHRISTmas….hmmm, could it be celebrating Jesus Christ’s birthday?

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      December 13, 2012 @ 9:14 pm

      stan,What you give as a reason for Snyderman and Lauers behavior may be so but its not a good EXCUSE. Laughing at any religion is wrong.Bizzybuzzer I never read where God said not to celebrate Christmas or Easter but maybe I missed that. But someone on here said it would be good to celebrate Christmas on Sunday for various reasons, one of which was so stores would not lose business,.Ishop at walmart mostly and I dont shop anywhere on Christmas so why worry about it. Lots of stores are open on Sunday.

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      December 15, 2012 @ 5:39 pm

      ” The end of the republic is at hand.” I fear you are closer to the truth than most know.
      Little children are killed by an EVIL monstor in Conn. and people cry out for more gun control, and not for more prayer in school; or rather the return of prayer in school. The ACLU and their ilk want the baby Jesus removed from the public square and people comply……..why? Fight them tooth and nail, always. We have been fighting war after war, real blood, real arms and legs, and lives, and yet we fear a fight with a bully who wants to destroy our religion? There was one man who died for it and we will soon be celebrating his birth.

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  3. popstComment by popst
    December 13, 2012 @ 2:38 pm

    Snyderman is one of the reason I haven’t watched a network show in over 3 years. At least the animals on The Animal Planet don’t make a fool out of themselves everytime they open their mouth.

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    • dshevlinComment by dshevlin
      December 13, 2012 @ 5:03 pm

      Ditto that popst! I too have not watched any MSM for 3 years either. Couldn’t afford the bill any longer and they weren’t worth paying for..LOL. Your comment reminded me of something I recently read. “Don’t feed the animals” are posted in Zoo’s and around neighborhoods with wild life, right? Why? So they do not get dependent on hand outs. Isn’t that correct? Why then is it ok to do with people? Merry Christmas!

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  4. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    December 13, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

    Jesus did not ask us to celebrate his birthday or Easter. We have the birthday wrong in the first place and God told us to Not celebrate easter. Even the pageant’s are wrong. Man has been messin up ever since created but we still keep on keepin on. We have even established in paintings how Jesus looks and God looks. He told us not to do that either. So what is the deal with people who don’t like us Christians showing our ignorance. That’s a terrible thing for me to say, I know that. I celebrate Christmas even if it is the wrong day. No one is big enough to change it. Easter, I can do without. That just goes too far out of bounds. But I know the reason for it and I celebrate that…on a different date.

    But religion ruining Christmas ? And laughing about it ?
    No telling what you will hear on a talk show. Isn’t it strange that we don’t call her names, use profanity, and boycott her, not even a hissy fit ?

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  5. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    December 13, 2012 @ 2:52 pm

    I don’t say Happy Hollidays, I say Merry Christmas. There is only one reason for the season. Most of these people in media want nothing to do with GOD what so ever. The days are growing short and the signs are all around us that the return of Jesus is soon. The world wants no part of that and you see daily their fight against GOD. No matter what the true day, it has always been celebrated in this country and the world that Christ is the reason that Christmas is.

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    • daveevad1Comment by daveevad1
      December 13, 2012 @ 4:09 pm

      My friend, you need to research this more deeply.

      The reformed Christians who colonized Massachusetts did NOT celebrate Christmas.

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      December 13, 2012 @ 9:17 pm

      daveevad 1-Why didnt they have christmas in Mass.?

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  6. Ollie_FanComment by Ollie_Fan
    December 13, 2012 @ 3:29 pm

    I’m offended.
    Fire her.
    Fire the producer.
    Riot in the streets.
    Burn cars and smash windows….
    Wait, I’m not a Mohammed follower…

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    • joe93Comment by joe93
      December 13, 2012 @ 3:58 pm

      Are you a union member from Lansing? Or a 99%? There are many excuses you can still find to protest. Not to worry, you won’t be in trouble. The press won’t report your destruction.

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    • CarmineComment by Carmine
      December 13, 2012 @ 11:16 pm

      Unless the press finds out you are a christian or a conservative. Then you are in a heap of trouble.

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  7. orpheus75Comment by orpheus75
    December 13, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

    Lady, if you don’t like it so much, then don’t celebrate it! Simple as that. Just tell your friends, family and any children, sorry, I don’t honor “Christmas”. Just say “Happy Holidays” and leave it at that. Knock yourself out with that one.

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    • lampoilComment by lampoil
      December 14, 2012 @ 12:23 am

      The agenda is not to “live and live” but to criticize and attack for the sheer purpose of destruction, based on the Marxist “Critical Theory”. Research Political Correctness, you’ll be quite enlightened.

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  8. js071257Comment by js071257
    December 13, 2012 @ 3:40 pm

    This isn’t what the commentator meant, but religion does muck the whole thing up because Jesus(Christianity) isn’t a religion.
    Yes, you’ve heard this before, but it is absolutely true.
    Christianity is a relationship with Jesus and all religions have done is put the legalism back into what Christ did away with on the cross.
    The bible says this will happen more and more, so while we fight back against the hatred of Christmas, and Christianity, we must understand the we, the church of Jesus Christ, have done a horrible job of showing the love of Christ. Not that we are judgmental, hateful, unloving, but we can still love the individual and not tolerate the sin.
    Without the Holy Spirit, it is impossible for the world to understand the bible, or accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, so our goal should be to be fervent in our faith, our resolve, our witness. Not only through our words, but our lives, to show that Jesus is the only hope for this world and the individual.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      December 13, 2012 @ 6:45 pm

      You have made the best comment of all. May you have a very meaningful Christmas Season and a joyful Christ filled New Year.
      A prayer by R.B. Thieme, Jr: Thank you, Father God, for sending your one and only, uniquely born Son to live here on this earth as we do. Thank you that He was born of a virgin, without an inherent sin nature and that He remained sinless so He could go to the cross and take our place. Thank you that every tiny detail surrounding His birth perfectly fulfilled Old Testament prophecy. You told us what was going to happen and it did! Thank you for the genealogy of our Lord all the way back from David and Bathsheba to Mary and Joseph. Thank you for showing us illustrations of Grace at every step along the way in the lives and events of the people who preceded and lived with our Lord. Thank you for choosing the faithful shepherds in the field to be among the first to witness the miracle in the manger and for the amazing star that showed the wise men where to find the true Light of the world. Thank you for loving us so much in our helpless, hopeless human condition and providing the perfect solution to sin and death. The birth of Jesus set the stage for His earthly ministry and its culmination at the cross, the center point of all human history. There is no greater story, nothing more miraculous than what you planned and orchestrated for our benefit. Man can live with you forevermore because of Christmas day. It IS unequivocally the most beautiful story and He IS the perfect gift! Thank you! In Jesus’ name, Amen.

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  9. elixirmixerComment by elixirmixer
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:04 pm

    Jesus is the reason for the season. Without the birth of Christ, there is no Christmas.

    It’s really that simple and that’s what’s confounding these dunderheads.

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  10. daveevad1Comment by daveevad1
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

    Christmas is the perversion that resulted from the Pope in the early centuries of the Christian era co-opting the Roman orgy-festival of Saturnalia in order to keep converts interested. It is a festival centered on the concept of cheap grace, and feel-good theology around caring for the poor for one brief season rather than every day.

    True reformed Christians have eschewed the observation of Christmas, and still do.

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    • Peter NyikosComment by Peter Nyikos
      December 13, 2012 @ 4:31 pm

      Why would the fact that the Western celebration of Christmas changed a pagan celebration into one celebrating the birth of Christ make it a perversion?

      And what’s cheap about the grace that comes from it? When people do secular things on Christmas, they are not expecting grace from it; if they do celebrate in a Christian way, why label the grace that comes from that “cheap”?

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      December 13, 2012 @ 8:50 pm

      Christmas is all aboutit being better to give than receive. This concepts so threatens the self-gods of wealth redistribution that they must do everything they can to destroy Christmas to insure their anti-Christian concepts and Anti-Christ in the Whitehouse survives.

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  11. gimmesometruthComment by gimmesometruth
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

    Perhaps as Christian believers, we should ONLY exchange gold, frankincense, and myrrh on Christmas Day, and leave all that cheap Chinese **** at Walmart? Jesus did say that the world would hate us because of Him. That is, of course, if we ever reflect His message to the world. WE have allowed a sacred event to become a holiday sales spectacle. Shame on us! Who wouldn’t want to receive the gift of Salvation or Healing instead of a chia pet? Maybe that repurposing would make a great NEW YEARS resolution.

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  12. shafawnComment by shafawn
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

    We give gifts at Christ-mas to honor God’s gift to mankind the gift of Christ. There is no greater gift He could give. Thank you God that we still live in a country that lets us celebrate the birthday of Jesus. Please help us to love each other more to celebrate your gift. Soften the hearts of American people Lord. Draw Christians back to you that You would be our first love again… more than money.
    Thank you Lord in Jesus name I pray amen

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  13. Grouchy OneComment by Grouchy One
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

    Oh, boy! This is ignorant on so many levels.

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  14. ralph45Comment by ralph45
    December 13, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

    I think religion only mucks things up for a society when it’s enforced. That can be overt, as in Saudi Arabia, or subtle, as in many western countries. For individuals, it tends to become stressful when dogma conflicts with conscience, the God-given insight common in all human beings.

    For what it’s worth, “Christ” wasn’t Jesus’ last name, like “Charlie Crist”. It’s an epithet added to his name by early pundits. It’s derived from the Greek, meaning “the anointed one”.

    For my part, I prefer to celebrate his teachings more than his birth or crucifixion.

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    • passthewordComment by passtheword
      December 18, 2012 @ 12:40 pm

      Without his VIRGIN birth, His Vicarious atonement for sins upon the cross and His Resurrection, His teaching would be nothing but philosophy… Without this understanding what do you base your celebratio?.

      Jesus, THE SON OF GOD (JEHOVAH)

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    • deadmanwalkingComment by deadmanwalking
      December 26, 2012 @ 12:40 pm

      I agree with PassTheWord, without Jesus’ cruxificion, we only have a man who was a wise prophet. It is because of his death and resurrection that we have that chance for eternal life with the Father. Jesus conquered death and laid the groundwork for us to also conquer death. Without his resurrection, he would have been no different than leaders of other religions and we would have no hope for eternal life. But he lives today as an intercessor between us and God the Father. Christ is the reason for the season, whether it be Christmas or Easter.

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  15. usmc1Comment by usmc1
    December 13, 2012 @ 5:46 pm

    This is ever so typical of most, if not all, of America today. Forewarned is fair warned; Turn your back on God and you WILL reap your just rewards!
    As for this two-bit , she had best wake up to the reality of who, what, and why Christ is or she had better prepare herself to burn in hell for all eternity!
    I can’t help but wonder just what part of “JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON” she don’t understand!
    It would appear, her only God is all those little colorful wrapped box under her tree!
    How so disgustingly sad! Such a waste of space!

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  16. jen68Comment by jen68
    December 13, 2012 @ 6:05 pm

    Comment removed by GOPUSA Staff!

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  17. rosechComment by rosech
    December 13, 2012 @ 6:53 pm

    Let’s face it, liberals are intellectually stunted by their own egoism. The reason for the season is the birth of Jesus, like it or not. You can work on Easter and Christmas at your usual wage with no extra monies for working on OUR holidays. Works for me and millions of others. You don’t like Christmas (Christ’s Mass), fine, but don’t think we are going to let you impose your mental deficit and thinking on the rest of us. Stay home, read a book and let the world pass you by. You are probably also very stingy and do not want to purchase Christmas gifts because then you would show your stupidity and fear and lack of enjoyment for anyone else as well as yourself. Cupidity, stupidity, mentally deficient all fit these idiots. They don’t have to celebrate and that does not affect us, so they could return the favor. Or, move to a communist country and have no worries about OUR Christmas celebration. Easy and fast solution for them, but hey they couldn’t carp and complain in those regimes but wind up in an encampment, prison or dead. I am from a Hebrew background and we always celebrated Christmas and a lot more fun than Hanukkah!

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  18. JDZComment by JDZ
    December 13, 2012 @ 6:58 pm

    It is sad to see how these people, who must think they are something special or exceptional because they are on a TV network show, choose to demean one of our special holidays, especially one that millions of people across the world celebrate and enjoy. These people all seem to be liberals who are anti-religion and continue to attack the display of faith across our country in every way from taking references of God off of our money, out of the pledge of allegiance, etc.

    All of a sudden, our major networks and the talking heads on their programs, seem to feel empowered to embrace any special interest group more then the majority of Americans, and these networks revel in criticizing much of our American heritage by covering atheists like Bill Maher, who is a scumbag, and those pushing gay rights, atheism, and any number of minority special interest groups more then traditional American values.

    Our country is sliding down a very dangerous slope that cannot be anything but bad for the country. It is like everything is upside down from our traditional American values and heritage. For example, open and unbridled forms of sex is blatantly exposed in both movies and through the Internet. Infidelity is now a normal and accepted part of life. Violence of all kinds including more and more vivid examples of maiming, torture, and murder is commonplace in both real life and in movies, TV, etc. We no longer emphasis a two parent family as a basic and fundamental part of our culture. Out of wedlock pregnancies are actually encouraged and glamorized. Going on government subsidies are encouraged and made easier rather then encouraging Americans to get a job and fend for themselves.

    Our government continues to set bad examples by borrowing 42 cents of every dollar it spends and by taking from working Americans and giving to those that would prefer to not work if they can get away with it. It is a baffling demonstration of insanity and irresponsibility.

    I just think our best days are definitely behind us as those politicians elected to run our government(s) have totally lost their minds and have let down the American people by their irresponsible self serving behavior.

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    • aobrien1Comment by aobrien1
      December 14, 2012 @ 2:38 pm

      Why on earth would NBC hire a new medical editor who actually has a brain? That implies that NBC has people in charge who have brains and that concept is enough to make me laugh or cry, or both. That’s like saying I watch the major networks for news.

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  19. 8ntwegr8Comment by 8ntwegr8
    December 13, 2012 @ 9:40 pm

    I agree, it’s a mess here. One thing that would help is to have everyone pay their fair share in taxes. One reason Mitt did so poorly was his reluctance to reveal how little he’s paid in income tax over the past 15 years or so. He was ashamed to admit it, and rightfully so.

    As far as Christmas goes, it is a Christian celebration, and as long as they don’t try to shred the constitution by using taxpayers’ money or public land to promote their religion, that’s fine with me. I especially enjoy the old-time hymns and Xmas carols.

    Have a great holiday season everyone !

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      December 13, 2012 @ 11:42 pm

      Since Mitt Romney did not show us his tax returns except for 2 years I am very curious to know how you know he didn’t pay his fair share.Did Harry Reid tell you? Pelosi? obama?.I would like to know so I can ask them to tell me how they know.I believe he didn’t show us because that would not have satisfied yours and democrats nosiness and they would have asked for more and more.
      Also in my town we have our nativity scene in front of the courthouse.We are not ashamed to show it.We are not ashamed of believing in God.I see you only got one vote. Thats typical for how American feels about non believers isn’t it. Or more to the point how we feel about believers.

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    • jimnjoyComment by jimnjoy
      December 14, 2012 @ 1:51 am

      The last I heard, Mitt Romney has paid over 60 million dollars in taxes during his lifetime. That money went into the public treasury and actually helped people. What is the big deal about he managing his money in such a way as to save as much on taxes as he legally can? Who doesn’t do that? Also, what is so wrong with a traditional Christmas display on public land? The Constitution says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof;…”. What is Christmas for if not to remember the birth of Christ? Never mind…I already know the answer to that. It’s a way for retailers to make enough money to make-it through the winter. Atheists have their own holiday, you know. The Bible says: “The fool says in his heart, there is no God.” Psalm 53:1. So, April Fool’s Day…April 1st…is their holiday.

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  20. jimnjoyComment by jimnjoy
    December 14, 2012 @ 1:28 am

    Snyderman is just verbalizing what many people think. It’s just amazing that she would say it out loud…or, considering the direction our country is going, maybe not so amazing. In the meantime, not that she would care what the Bible says, but she would do well to contemplate that Jesus said this: “If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”, Mark 8:38.

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  21. Grouchy OneComment by Grouchy One
    December 14, 2012 @ 11:24 am

    I’ve been reading the comments made by others and I have to agree that even the word “Christmas” firmly states that it relates to Christ-ians and Christ, and, therefore has religious significance.
    I also know that the western world hijacked the HOLY-day and made it a national holiday, not only in the USA but in many countries in the Western World.

    Just like January 1 is a holiday for the western world.

    I like what has been pointed out on this forum in reference to the exact day of Jesus’s birth not being a certainty and I know that Coptic Christians celebrate on a different day as well as the Orthodox churches.

    Perhaps it would be better to name a day such as the 4th Thursday or the 4th Friday or the 4th Sunday or 2nd Tuesday or whatever to celebrate a national holiday in honor of Christ’s birth. Christmas has been a tradition in the western world for decades and a lot of fuss and pageantry has been associated with it, which many people do love and respect.

    The commercial world takes any opportunity to make money and I guess they can if they want to. Some people find reasons to throw a party for things as seemingly trivial as the fist day of fall, the first day of spring, etc. It’s all good.

    We changed the birthdays of many noted historical figures to Monday for the sake of convenience.

    I understand the Christians’ discontent that aetheists would expect them to take Christ out of the holiday at all but the bottom line is that if people don’t want to celebrate, they shouldn’t. I don’t see any real reason for me to celebrate Columbus Day, Kwaanza, Hannukah, or President’s Day yet I do recognize Veteran’s Day and Memorial Day and, yes, Christmas. Isn’t it all a matter of personal taste?

    Internationally, Christmas is recognized, as is Eid, Hannukah and many other holidays. Not to sound like a lib, but why can’t people just get along and stop squabbling over stupid nonsense?

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      December 14, 2012 @ 12:05 pm

      You are right Grouchy, but thats not the point. Christians and non believers celebrate Christmas. It is just a few who choose to make it a fight. I think if atheists were as tolerant of our beliefs as we have always been of theirs we could get along. but, they are intolerant of us and expect us to be tolerant of them. Since when in a democratic republic is it said that minority rules?In all these towns where you cant have a nativity scene on public lands why dont they vote on it.?Thats the fair way.If people dont want to celebrate who is forcing them too.?No one forces non believers into a church or synogogue or temple.I grew up near Jehovah witness family and they never bothered us nor us them.We were friends who worshipped in different ways and got along fine.Thwe only religious sect I take exception to is radical islam. Plus I resent muslims that dont come out against killing me and my fellow human beings.

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    • Grouchy OneComment by Grouchy One
      December 14, 2012 @ 1:07 pm

      gopluva, I agree with you except for the fact that I do see intolerance on both sides of the aethiest vs. Christian discourse. I don’t know what can be done about that any more than I know what can be done about people who don’t like the color yellow or purple or whatever. It is what it is and they just won’t ever be friends. But there are plenty of like minded people to befriend so who cares?

      I don’t think anyone should waste time voting or expecting the courts determine if there can be a nativity scene in a public place or someone can wear a t-shirt with a rebel flag out in public.

      There is entirely too much nit-picking **** that goes on in this country and it gets annoying after awhile.

      This is supposed to be a free country and people should be able to put whatever they want wherever they want it as long as they aren’t trespassing. For example, I wasn’t thrilled when some contractor dumped his trash at the end of my driveway and I’d probably get very irate if someone planted a Mexican flag or put a re-elect obama sign on my property! In that case, it would be my right to destroy it. Otherwise, it’s none of my business.

      To me, if people who work in the courthouse or the corner bar decide they want to decorate for Christmas or hang a crucifix in the hallway or put a picture of Fidel Castro on their desk, what difference does it make? Nobody is being harmed except those who let themselves by harmed by letting petty nonsense get under their skin.

      I don’t think that people are trying to force my children/grandhildren to do anything illegal if they have a Christmas party at school any more than I think they should not be taught about Thanksgiving, which is, regardless of what anyone thinks, a day set aside to thank the deities of the Christians as well as the Indians (and these days whatever other deities people may want to observe) for a bountiful harvest. It is ALL history, even though all of it has religious connotations that people can choose to believe or not believe.

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  22. pattycake1961Comment by pattycake1961
    December 14, 2012 @ 1:10 pm

    Several of our cherished ‘federal’ holidays are based on a religious holy day. If people continue to insist that Christ and Jesus be removed from the everyday dialogue we use, then I have the solution. Let’s remove the paid holidays the federal government and others receive for a holiday in which they do not respect or believe. Agreed, they have a choice and a right whether or not to celebrate. But if all want the benefits of our sacred holidays, then do not trash it!, Dr. Snyderman.

    Imagine a world with no religious holidays? No holidays to buy gifts, no biggest shopping days during the year. No Easter shopping days. No holiday pay. Hmmmm. No commercialism…

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  23. stormymonday2Comment by stormymonday2
    January 3, 2013 @ 5:14 pm

    Consider the sources of such idiotic comments. Those who voted for Obama are showing their ignorance and stupidity when they open their mouths.

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