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What is with all the Romney bashing?

By Bobby Eberle

Ok, the election is over, and if you're like me, the final results were a punch in the gut. In fact, it's been hard for me to write about practically anything while I sit in a stunned state of "what just happened?" Enough! It's time to move on, and it's time to pick up the pieces and build a conservative machine that can win. What we don't need to do is bash the very man who gave his heart and soul to trying to change the course of this country.

It's really quite sad. Following his election defeat, Mitt Romney was quiet. He congratulated Barack Obama, and he let the dust settle. Only after more than a week, did he host a conference call with major donors to discuss the election. Now his comments during that call are making news, and Republican leaders are coming out and bashing him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtL5PuGUCC0

Ok... let's get this straight. Romney said that one of the reasons Obama won was because he used the same old Democrat playbook. This is ABSOLUTELY TRUE! Name me one presidential election where the Democrat didn't break the electorate down into interest groups and promise them one thing or another. Romney was absolutely right when he said that Obama's strategy was to promise "big gifts" to women, young people, and minorities.

But his comments have been met with "outrage." Give me a break! Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal was one of the first to make news in speaking out against Romney's comments. As reported in the Boston Globe, Jindal (who is considered a "rising star" in GOP circles) said Romney's comments were "absolutely wrong."

"I think that's absolutely wrong," Jindal said later Wednesday at a news conference in Las Vegas at a meeting of the Republican Governors Association. "We have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent."

Jindal's reference to 53 percent was a criticism of Romney's secretly recorded statement at a Florida fund-raiser in May that 47 percent of Americans are dependent on government assistance and do not take personal responsibility for their lives.

The Louisiana governor, an Indian-American who is considered a potential presidential candidate in 2016, said that Republicans "need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education."

Now, granted, Jindal did say that we need to stop dividing American voters. We do. But what Romney said was that Obama's strategy WAS TO DIVIDE them. It's a completely accurate account of what happened.

New Mexico Gov. Susan Martinez has jumped on the bandwagon too. In an interview with Politico.com, Martinez was talking about the Republican party and minority voters:

She expressed disdain for Romney's claim this week on a conference call that President Barack Obama won reelection because he offered "gifts" to minorities and younger voters.

"That unfortunately is what sets us back as a partyn -- our comments that are not thought through carefully," she said...

..."Republicans need to stop making assumptions," she added, "and they need to start talking to younger people, people of color, and ask them -- not talk to them -- ask them, 'What is it that we can do better? How do we earn your vote? How do we earn the ability for you to see that we can be the party that will make your life better and that of your children?' But we can't be the ones that come and tell them how things are going to be and how we have all the solutions."

Oh my gosh! I don't even know where to begin! Is this the "new direction" of the Republican Party? Are we destined to battle the Democrats to see if we can be the party that "will make your life better and that of your children?" If that is the new Republican strategy, I don't want any part of it.

Here's a message to all those Republican hopefuls out there. Get a clue!

A friend of mine asked me why Romney lost. There are a TON of reasons, but one that I told her was that Romney needed to hit Obama harder on the issues. But is it any wonder that he didn't? Whenever a Republican goes out and speaks the truth about America, not only does he or she get blasted by the media, he or she gets blasted by other Republicans. Pathetic!

If we choose to adopt a strategy of "here is what government can do for you," then we will lose... FOREVER. Democrats will always promise more. Democrats will always spend more. It's a stupid, losing strategy.

Going forward, we must remind people of what made America great to begin with. People with bold ideas, taking huge chances... all in pursuit of the American Dream. That dream is alive and well. We must remind people of what lies inside them... not what lies in Washington, DC. People must be reminded that it is government that is holding them back. Imagine what they could accomplish... imagine what they could become... imagine what they can pass along to their children... if government got out of the way.

Want a better job? Want a better life? Want a society that respects the accomplishments of individuals so that we all grow as a nation? Then vote for the party and candidates that will unleash the true American spirit. The more we rely on government, the more we lose part of our soul.

I recently told another friend that there has not been one single government housing project that was ever built that was run-down and neglected from the beginning. They all started out shiny and new. However, if you give someone something for nothing, they will treat it like nothing. That's just a fact.

Over decades, people have been lulled by the left-wing promise of government taking care of them, and if Republicans adopt a "Democrat light" approach, we will lose. We have to change the paradigm. We have to restore hope. We have to ignite the fire. And no, we can't promise "big gifts" like Obama and the Democrats do, and shame on all the Republicans who think we should.

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  1. pypypypyComment by pypypypy
    November 17, 2012 @ 9:11 am

    Tell me about it. I expect this from the left but not from within! Gov Jindhal is off my 2016 potential candidates and Gov Christie too!

    I cannot believe that they would bash one of their own for speaking the truth!

    Good for you Gov Romney. You hit the nail on its head

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    • lot9bComment by lot9b
      November 17, 2012 @ 4:11 pm

      with u all the way.Reps dont get it.Romney got close to half the vote speaking out against abortion,fema,dept of ed,planned parenthood,obamacare,deficit,47%.Maybe they should start there instead of bashing.Neither of those Govs.could ever be that honest with the people.Obama couldnt believe he won.Republicans get with it you always do this to each other.Dems never speak out against each other.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      November 17, 2012 @ 5:37 pm

      I’ve said this since the election: the main reason BO won the election is because the GOP is a splintered group. The dumbocraps, however, are totally united and deviate very little from their official platform. Americans see this in the GOP as weakness–and it is. At some point, we have to come together as a party and completely DEFINE what we stand for. And if the GOP is going to continue to call for the elimination of social conservatives and their stand on abortion, homosexual marriage, etc, the GOP will be gone forever in my book. At that point, what is the difference between Repubs and dems?? None.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      November 17, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

      Romney should have attacked the 47% of the social parasites that bleed this nation dry. Now we Americans have to give up our Twinkies and Ding Dongs because Obama’s parasitical Unions bleed another company to death. Even a Dumb tapeworm knows better than these Democrat Liberal parasites not to kill the Host,,,,or in this case the Hostess. It is the Incompetent Ding Dongs and Gay Twinkies that now rule the nation.

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    • makesenseComment by makesense
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:18 pm

      Here is why Romney is absolutely right and why the Jindal’s are wrong. It is plain and simple human psychology. —

      –>From a teacher in the Nashville area – -

      “We are worried about ‘the cow’ when it is all about the ‘Ice Cream. ‘The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching 3rd grade. The last Presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote. To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
      The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.

      I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support.

      I had never seen Olivia’s mother.

      The day arrived when they were to make their speeches.

      Jamie went first.

      He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place.
      He ended by promising to do his very best.

      Everyone applauded and he sat down.

      Now it was Olivia’s turn to speak.

      Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream.”
      She sat down.

      The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want ice cream.”

      She surely would say more. She did not have to.

      A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure.
      But no one pursued that question. They took her at her word.

      Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it…She didn’t know.

      The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream…

      Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.

      Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream
      and 51.4 % of the people reacted like nine year old’s.

      They want ice cream.

      The other 48.6% percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow and clean up the mess.”

      Remember, the government cannot give anything to anyone that they have not first taken away from someone else.
      Did you vote for the ice cream (bull ****)?

      THAT MY FRIEND, IS HOW OBAMA GOT ELECTED…
      BY THOSE WHO WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE!

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    • vesuvius1313Comment by vesuvius1313
      November 18, 2012 @ 12:21 am

      sexysadie, the gov’t shouldn’t be about regulating morality as that is the job of our churches and states. The federal gov’t needs to be limited to Constitutional powers. You ask how would we be different than democrats – limited gov’t, balanced budget, and strong defense focused on keeping our borders secure. You want to push our morality on others and worse use the gov’t to enforce it and that is something that I don’t want our gov’t to do. I see abortion as a state legislature issue.
      Makesense, if what you say is true that Obama was elected by those that want free things why did Romney get fewer votes than McCain and Obama got 10m fewer than in 2008. Rommney didn’t fire up conservatives despite his organization and big rallies. Yes those that want free things voted for Obama but that isn’t the only thing that got Obama elected.

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    • hijalibreComment by hijalibre
      November 18, 2012 @ 1:26 am

      Pypypypy, I totally agree with you! Jindal and Christie are OFF MY LIST! I LOVE Mitt Romney, and I know he did his very best to win this election for our country! I totally believe the election was stolen by rampant voter fraud! Mitt Romney would have been an AWESOME President! I still want a recount! We might as well live in a communist country with crooks running everything, including election results. As for the comment by vesuvius about regulating morality and saying abortion should be a state legislature issue, do you believe murder should only be regulated by states? Abortion is murder. If you think that is regulating morality, then why regulate murder?

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    • barnrnComment by barnrn
      November 18, 2012 @ 1:10 pm

      I think Mitt and family were outstanding. They ran a grownup race the Obama’s ran a Santa’s race. We are almost at the tipping point, of no return.

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  2. wengbersComment by wengbers
    November 17, 2012 @ 9:18 am

    I agree that promising bigger freebies is not going to work. I do believe that we need to re-awaken pride in this great country. The democrats will not have the minority votes in 2016, that they had in 2008 and 2012. First, Obama cannot pay for all he promised and he will disappoint many blacks and latino’s. Bobbie Jindal and Susan Martinez are already starting to loose votes, because it isn’t going to be the minorities that will elect the next president, it will be the conservative vote. So go out and rebuild conservatism. Vote all the wishy washy republicans out of office.

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    • goodforallComment by goodforall
      November 17, 2012 @ 9:38 am

      You are so correct in your assesment. Lets face it-the large majority of blacks will never understand any other way than by entitlements, and the same can unfortunately be said about the Hispanics. The freebies are all these people care about! Amnesty? Not hardly-already proven incorrect by Reagan who gave it to three million who rewarded the Republicans by reducing the voter support by 7% to George HW Bush. We need to focus on conservatisim-period! We must not compromise our principles. However, we also must get voter ID laws into place to stop the wide spread voter fraud that has been shown within the democratic party. Jindal and Martinex don’t have a clue-they are part of the problem.

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    • susieqComment by susieq
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:14 am

      I fully agree. I do believe that Mitt did an integrity driven campaign…much more than the current administration could ever even conceive of. But the takers won on this one…nobody owes anyone a living…but we will survive…the takers…what are they going to do when the well runs dry?

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:53 am

      Yes I think you are all correct like the article writer says. We can never win by trying to appease the takers and always remember that these people Jindahl and Martinez are lookin to run in 2016.We have to be very careful who we choose to back next time.Romney was a good choice but not a true conservative, but he would have been a good president. Instead of worrying about the voters being divided we need to not be so divided ourselves./ If Romney had had complete backing he would have won. Get third partys out in the very beginning. plus Im tired of politicos who presume to tell me what voters want.

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    • crosstownbus1Comment by crosstownbus1
      November 17, 2012 @ 12:03 pm

      The GOP party that was shaped by the mandates of Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms is no longer relevant. Flip flop Romney was so out of touch with the electorate that he might as well have been campaigning from the moon. If the party has any hope of capturing the White House in 2016, it needs to jettison it’s “rolodex” agenda of the past and get inline with 21st century America.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 17, 2012 @ 12:05 pm

      wengbers, I wish I could believe you, but this election just proved otherwise. I wish conservatives could win, but the fact is we just don’t have the numbers right now. And if things keep going the they are we’ll undoubtedly be outnumbered again in 2016. It’s probably going to take some major crisis to wake people up, because let’s face it, we lost, and I have yet to hear a good answer as to how not to do it again.

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    • makesenseComment by makesense
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:48 pm

      The Democrats has been giving GIFTS to the voters so they will get elected. It is a tried and true technique of politicians.

      What voters do not realize is the long run consequences of their votes. The Republicans need to show the voters what has happened in Venezuela over the last 10 years. A small country blessed with plentiful oil deposits… going from a growing vibrant and rich economy to a crime ridden society whose economy is in shambles …. in just 10 years. Chavez was elected on the promise to the poor that he will give them gifts… and he has by taking the resources from the middle class and the rich. Did the poor improve their lives? No They have become more dependent on government and a few months ago they voted Chavez for another term.

      The Republicans have to cite Venezuela as an example of where we are headed if they allow the Democrats to continue giving away gifts paid for by borrowing from China.

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  3. tejanoangelComment by tejanoangel
    November 17, 2012 @ 9:24 am

    The Libs hate me saying this, but there is no denying it:

    Romney is right. Romney’s recent remarks about having lost the Presidential election to Obama because Obama has perfected the Democrats’ art of buying votes with other people’s money are right on the money. Obama is the greatest political Santa Claus in the history of our country—surpassing the era of the New Deal and the Great Society.
    There are more Obama gifts to Americans than there are stars in the night sky—the litany of largess is endless. Let’s just name a few. We, the taxpayers, are now spending over $772 million on “free Obama phones.” We now have over 8.7 million people on social security disability. Total participation in the food stamp program is now at more than 8.7 million people—perhaps now more than ever in the history of our country.
    I am a fiscal conservative, an old Hispanic grandfather worried to dead about how Obama has mortgaged the financial security of my grandkids. But who cares about fiscal responsibility any more, when there are millions and millions of minions feeding at the public trough?

    And the recipients of the public dole are not just the so-called “poor and the downtrodden”, who you may find shopping at Goodwill for clothes on their backs or selecting canned goods from the food pantries serving the low-income communities. The vast rivers of federal revenues flow into colleges and universities, to hospital and public health facilities, to mortgage bankers, to museums, to farms and ranches, to school districts, to parks, to all levels and manner of local governments and state governments, to non-profits, to cultural centers, to “green” companies—the list is endless.
    Of course these recipients of the public dole, who are recipients either directly or indirectly, are going to vote Democrat, in great majorities, for now and forever.

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  4. drillbabydrillComment by drillbabydrill
    November 17, 2012 @ 9:40 am

    Romney lost because he’s a traditional American.
    We can take our country back in 2016: Rubio as RNC chairman, West/Bachmann for the presidential ticket – that way we have the Black, Hispanic, and Woman thing covered.

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    • thferretComment by thferret
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:34 am

      A west/Bachmann ticket would be awesome! For the Dems!

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    • robbieComment by robbie
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:44 am

      Romney lost because Obama lied, the ballot machines were absolutely rigged, and because he didn’t go after Obama for the acts of treason he committed and continues to commit. Anyone wanting to know what those acts are: start with his utter and complete failure to uphold the oath of office – and everything he has done reflects this. He may be sitting in the white house with that disgrace of a first woman, but he is not MY president and will never be. The Oblunde administration is an embarrassment internationally and an afront to the hard working, taxpaying citizens of this nation.

      That said, I would like to see West/Bachman run and do it as hard and as mean as the felons who have put an imposter in the the highest position in the land for a second time without a single, factual bona fide. However, any oposing team must run on a conservative platform and stick to that platform . If we work hard, we can put this team up under an new party, a true conservative party. Bear in mind that democrats are now communists and republicans are democrats – neither can be trusted with out tax dollars.

      For the troll who posted on this site – you are vermin and your day of reckoning is coming.

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    • mrickyridgeComment by mrickyridge
      November 17, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

      hey drillbabydrill,

      I like the idea of having those three in there. Maybe we could have Rubio/Bachmann or Rubio/West with Bachmann as head of RNC or West Head of RNC. We need people who have the guts and backbones to battle the liberal idiots and moronic media.
      My impression of why we lost is because Romney was being too civil and too nice with these win at any cost democrats. You have to fight fire with a lot of fire. The democrats have no ethics, values or sense of decency and you have to show the american public that. Unfortunately we will pay for 4 more years of uselessness in charge.We also have to get back the senate. If we could have at least gotten another idiot(Reid) out of there we would have had a chance to stop things. Now it will probably be executive orders or stalemates in getting anything done.
      Start preparing the ground forces just like obama did the first time he was elected from day one. He was always campaigning(never getting any real work done). We have to prepare early and get lots of $ behind us, and have us set the tone and the arguments, and stop the republicans from blaming each other. This is why I’m disgusted with the republican party. At least you got to give the democrats credit for sticking together(even when they’re wrong).

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 18, 2012 @ 10:34 am

      Robbie: A West/Bachmann ticket would lose in the biggest landslide in the history of this country, and if everyone took your advice we would see the Democrats in power in perpetuity. I’m sorry but people like you need to wake up to political reality if we’re ever going to take this country back.

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  5. deafyComment by deafy
    November 17, 2012 @ 9:52 am

    “Ok, the election is over … ” is WRONG!
    It had not been counted in full yet, and there’s numerous evidences of fraud … what is left is for us to go to courts and get those obviously fraudulent districts (mostly pro-Obama) tossed out, and guess who won? Romney!
    The problem here is that we are so sheepish that we allow this fraud to be law in our country … fight back as Americans!

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    • vevaComment by veva
      November 17, 2012 @ 7:03 pm

      You can bet there was plenty of fraud! To paraphrase Stalin’s remark: The votes don’t count, what matters is who counts the votes. That was always the plan. Was Allen West the only one who thought so? He asked to have the machines and ballots impounded in his district. He was leading, then in the ealy morn of the next day, 4000+ more votes appeared for his opponent. Just like in MN Franken’s case! During a recount, the election director(?) didn’t count the early ballots. An outside committee, under the public eye of a camera, should do a recount! Period. If Bachmann is so good, why couldn’t she hold her own in the primary debates? She may have all of the principles and conservative requirements, but can’t deliver. Not unlike Romney. He overdid the “I’ve created a lot of jobs” and “can work with both parties” card. He seemed to resist being confrontational. But it should not be “create jobs”, rather the “private sector can create all of the jobs we need. I will work to eliminate every regulation that is preventing that from happening. The government needs to get out of the way.” Only in that 1st debate, which he won, did he really show some fire. Gingrich would have done better, but lacks a good reputation. The Democrat mantra is it’s who counts the ballots!

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  6. wedeyComment by wedey
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:08 am

    I went to many Mitt Rallies and I totally respected the man.
    And I totally agree with him saying he lost because Obama was just a Santa Claus with other people’s money. What amazes me even more that when a family is poor and many have kids with no fathers, they like living the way they are. I would think every parent out there would want their kids to aspire to the American dream. And I don’t agree with Obama, the ones who made it didn’t make it on their own. He stupidly named a few people like teachers and people who built the roads, but he never once mentioned the parents or the churches. He also said they were just lucky. I totally don’t agree, most who made it were willing to learn and work hard. Do the latinos just really want to live a little bit better than slaves because that is what he has been and is supporting, enslavement to the government. But what gets me the people that are getting the handouts just don’t want to just get by, they want all the finer things also but with someone else paying for it.

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  7. thferretComment by thferret
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:17 am

    This is total BS. Rather than the party changing to fit the demographics and actually listen to what people want, the writer is saying that the American people need to change what they believe and change their positions to agree with the Republican party. That has been a fundamental problem with the GOP. They want to force their positions on everybody else rather than listening to what the American people actually WANT from them. The demographics have changed, and so must you.

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    • rightlane1111Comment by rightlane1111
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:02 am

      Disagree…BIG TIME. The Republican Party of today…with some exception is no different that the Democrats of old (meaning the spenders). The new DNC is full of socialist people. The Republican Party is full of greedy people that have become unprincipled to enhance their wallets. We do have a Constitution…and that has gone away. This was our last stop people and we voted in a Communist…not a socialist…a communist. Obama is not going to do anything for the Blacks…he hasn’t so far. They still live in the same old run down dumps…no jobs…BUT THEY DO HAVE A PHONE. Hispanics…some of them are moochers…but many come from a good work ethic and religion…the problem is…America looks like Disneyland to them compared to where they lived. So…we demoralize the Hispanics…just like we did the Blacks.

      Want to change…stop focusing on these two groups (I am not Hispanic nor Black). The problem…the real moochers of our society…even with all the entitlements are the government bids (even if it is higher) to favored people..i.e., backers (either party)…UNIONS…UNIONS…UNIONS. Education is general is a protected section of our society. Look at the section in Obamacare addressing Sallie Mae (NEW BUBBLE COMING). The government is subsidizing the teachers. We have now given over OUR LIVES for Obamacare. Nobody…not any candidate…no Speaker of the House…no Minority Leader has even addressed any of this. We bailout (our money)…we subsidize (our money) people that should not be susidized.

      The government even gets PAID TWICE…once from the lobbyists or backers…and then with OUR MONEY to subsidize the schemes they back…can you say Solyndra. Our Pentagon…is full of graft. We punish our soldiers and reward the desk jockies.

      That’s what has happened to America.

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    • The SentinelComment by The Sentinel
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:31 am

      The Communist party bought the Democrats about 2o years ago. (Check http://www.cpusa.org to see the endorsements for POTUS over the last 16 years) The Communist party in the US used to endorse known Communists, like Eugene Debs for years; then they are suddenly endorsing Democrats. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. Allen West was correct; the Democrats are Communists.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      November 17, 2012 @ 1:26 pm

      The changes in our culture have been taking place over decades. It will take decades to change the “its free” mentality to you have to earn it mentality that built the US to be the greatest nation.

      Romney is a moderate and that in and of itself is not a bad thing, but I knoe many conservatives stayed home because they either would not support him or thought he had this in the bag.

      Some reports say as many as 3 million republicans did not vote! Also, Obozo received fewer votes than in 2008. Even if there was fraud…and I believe there was, Romney still most likely lost. Until the belief that things are free and someone esle should pay my bills is changed, I am afraid the conservatives with the choices they put forth will not see the WH for a good while. This election should not have been close…Obozo should have gone down in flames!

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  8. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:17 am

    What’s with the Romney bashing ??? It can’t be any other way. Obama is always campaigning and that is his favorite thing to do. Democrats love bashing because that is what they do best as well. Democrat voters love bashing also, complimented with name calling and profanity.

    As for me, the election is not over either. We need a recount. The effort has already been started but the rest of you need to join in. Too many reports of lost and miscounted ballots.

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  9. The Answer Is FreedomComment by randymelder
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:19 am

    I’d like to offer an alternative opinion about the election loss and the Romney bashing.

    You say ‘If we choose to adopt a strategy of “here is what government can do for you.” Then we will lose… FOREVER. Democrats will always promise more. Democrats will always spend more. It’s a stupid, losing strategy.’ – This obviously isn’t a losing strategy, but not the only winning strategy.

    To understand the mindset of the majority of Obama voters, you have to ignore math for while and focus on emotion. Obama manipulates using “hope” and fear aka “identity politics.” There is always a subtext of injustice to his presentations and he points the finger at Republicans as the villains. Republicans see through this easily, but special interest groups such as minorities and young women, etc. do not. They start feeling under attack and naturally rebel. Obama’s mantra seems valid since the willing press will bait the Todd Akins of the world to make ***** of themselves while illustrating the exact position Obama is claiming all Republicans have. Quite clever of them, eh?

    Republicans fail to disassociate themselves with extremes out of fear that the religious right donors will stop giving. This exacerbates the problem with centrist voters who see us as weak or willing or both.

    IMHO, Romney offered no ‘hope’ for lower-income voters despite his best efforts. They could not connect with him at any level. He is classy and rich. Moreover, he let Obama get away with positioning him has evil rich and himself as reasonable. Romney almost got a technical knock out in the first debate, but the 2nd and 3rd were off message and disappointing.

    For blacks, Romney needed to say “I have a path for our lower income citizens to gain wealth and escape poverty. That path requires economic growth.”

    For latinos, Romney needed to say “here’s my concrete policy toward illegal immigrants: I will offer a work visa with a penalty and a education visa for each child and spouse.” He had no concrete message or policy. It waffled.

    For women, Romney needed to say “I believe the federal government should not be used to prevent women from making choices for their bodies. I pledge to not sign any law limiting freedom of choice.” This would have locked a larger percentage of female voters.

    At the end, Romney’s message of small government and lower taxes morphed into Obama’s mantra of tax the rich at least something out of “fairness.” This made us conservatives queasy.

    In conclusion, if the GOP wants to get special interest groups to listen to conservative messages, the GOP needs to listen to the special interest groups emotional pleas and find a conservative approach to solving or at least neutralizing their complaints.

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    • Ollie_FanComment by Ollie_Fan
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:07 am

      I didn’t feel like commenting this morning, but just wanted to say to randymelder that although I don’t agree 100% with your post, the idea presented that the GOP needs to adopt their message with the reality of the day is true in my opinion.
      This reality of the day is something most of us are not in agreement with, but we must acknowledge it’s existence to manipulate it OUR way for a change. Fighting fire with fire in a clear message. I thought Romney had done a decent job with this, just not good enough I suppose.

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    • justamomComment by justamom
      November 17, 2012 @ 12:10 pm

      Nonsense. We should become democrats (promise prosperity to blacks, legality to illegals, and abortion to women) so that we can defeat democrats? What’s the point? You can’t become the devil to defeat the devil! You will never out-democrat a democrat! And even if we could, who would want to? If we help tear down the culture just so we can be the rulers of it, then we are worse than the democrats and we deserve to lose.

      Yes, the world has changed. But we don’t need to be as wrong as the world is. We need to go out and change the culture back to one of decency and freedom. That is the real battleground. We need to work every, single day to explain to people why their way doesn’t work. Why decency and goodness are the right way to go.

      People in the GOP need to get it through their heads. MODERATES ARE LOSERS! McCain..LOSER. Romney, the LOSER WHO STEPPED ASIDE FOR THE PREVIOUS LOSER.

      But Romney isn’t to blame. Considering how tepid he is, he really did better than we had any right to expect.

      We, the party, are to blame for putting him up there to begin with. We deserve to lose (though we may not deserve the penalty of having Obama as president). And if we continue putting up tepid losers we will deserve to continue losing.

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  10. VeeDubComment by VeeDub
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:31 am

    GEEZ! Will you people ever get it? Look, we all know that obama can’t legally run for a third term. BUT, they will simply write him in as President. They will make him a write-in winner. And there is nothing, NOTHING, you can give them that will make them change their bigotry. At some point, you’re going to have to drop the PC, Conservative, Christian, good guy persona and admit that bigotry is more pervasive in the black community, than it is the white. Time to face facts folks. It’s not about what obama promised to give them, it’s because he isn’t the rich “white” guy!

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    • arvardComment by arvard
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:17 am

      Romney did not lose the election it was stolen THROUGH MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD. Romney would have been a great president and why is this voter fraud allowed to stand.

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    • BobinmsComment by Bobinms
      November 18, 2012 @ 9:03 am

      If I were to use one word to characterize the Republican campaign, it would be “afraid”. They were afraid they’d say the wrong thing, offend a group, etc. This mentality leads to paralysis and doing nothing. Just look at the last debate. The first debate was highly successful but they were “afraid” to continue the attack. If what you are doing is successful, don’t do it any more. No wonder he lost. Romney is probably the most honest, decent and moral person to run for president in 50 years. His professional handlers let him down.

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  11. JDZComment by JDZ
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:45 am

    This country had the rare opportunity to elect an extremely competent businessman and Governor to the Presidency. Someone even the dirty politics machine from Chicago could not find any scandals or personal issues to expose to the public and had to resort to made up distortions to depict him as someone he is not. Someone of Romney’s caliber typically do not run for political office because they do not have anything to prove or an ego that needs stroked or are a part of some anti-Amercan transformation into a socialist state. He is a true American who felt he could lead us out of the economic mess that the Obama administration has failed to turn around.

    Because Romney is a straight talker and an honest man, he is more blunt (and trustworthy) then the typical politician and his points relative to the various strategies Democrats use to buy votes is absolutely at the heart of why he lost the election. Those receiving government subsidies actually believe that Democrats will protect these “freebies” and that Republicans MAY cut them, and therefore, regardless of their ideology, will always vote Democrat even if the Democrat is a total failure as is Obama.

    The Dems stitched together a myriad of special interest groups who believe that the Democrats will protect each of their self serving interests. Hispanics always vote Democrat, for example, even when illegals are given amnesty…why..because of the government subsidy programs they receive which are really more important to them. The same for other minorities on welfare, food stamps, disability, etc. who have, in many cases, created a life style built around these programs. Then you stack free healthcare insurance on top of these existing programs…and you just put the cream on the pudding. Many younger single women, gay rights groups, environmentalists, military hating extremists, etc. always vote for liberal politicians. Then the final special interest group that are the ground troops for the Democratic party are the public service unions and big labor who launder campaign funds for liberal politicians, help elect them, and expect to continue to get taxpayer funded lavish salaries and benefits.

    This election has revealed to the country that we have actually reached the “tipping point” where the “takers” under the Democrat political party can now continue to elect politicians who they think will perpetuate their government subsidies regardless of the impact to the country at large. It is like having the inmates run the prison.

    Romney had it right and those running our government at all levels are in denial of the huge financial mess coming to the country in the future as a result of this socialist entitlement mentality. No amount of wealth redistribution and tax increases alone are going to stop the inevitable financial crash coming to our country of which we clearly do not appreciate the destructive impact to our way of life.

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    • The Answer Is FreedomComment by The Answer Is Freedom
      November 17, 2012 @ 10:57 am

      Getting angry or crazy with the “takers” as you say isn’t going to get us anywhere. We need to play long ball, and provide clear messaging why conservativism is a better choice. We need to offer concrete solutions to problems and FOCUS GROUP the wording so it’s short and sweet. Democratics are killing us in process and strategy. We can win, but we need to get into this century with our air and ground game.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:30 am

      For years now – since JFK – the Democrat Party has been a mishmash of special interest groups – Homosexuals, Black’s, Hispanics, Unions, welfare recipients – and they don’t even try to push them into one cohesive unit – they work at keeping them in their separate little folder – they can manage them better that way.

      There are three basic groups in the Republican Party, the establishment progressives, the conservative (Tea Party types) and the Libertarians, there is also the “christian” right. But the “bosses” of the Republicans don’t LIKE or WANT the Tea Party or the Christian Right – they tolerate the Libertarians – because they are so few – like Rand and Ron Paul. And the Republican ‘bosses’ don’t even try to cultivate the disparate groups – because they don’t have the same agenda – which is bigger government – which is very much just like the Democrats.

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    • Pat GilbreathComment by Pat Gilbreath
      November 17, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

      JDZ you hit it on the head. For years I have said that the Democrats have the language of love and their ffollowers fall right into their trap. Mitt Romney was an opportunity to get our nation back on the right track. He is a man of integrity and could see the heart of Americans who truly love their country and does not want to see it go down the path of Europe/Communism/Socialism. America was founded on Godly principles and Mitt Romney stood on those standards. We understand the liberal do not want to submit to a higher power, but the day is coming when they will. Only the Lord can help us to set things right and that may not happen until we have gone all the way down. Arise Americans and fight for our rights!

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  12. agnesdayComment by agnesday
    November 17, 2012 @ 10:59 am

    I think we forgot what a workhorse the Republican Women can be. While they have had the lion’s share of phone banks and other campaign tasks, they are a natural choice for making contact with other women and minorities, and helping them see a different vision. We need to hold trainings and workshops on becoming entrepreneurial without a great deal of capital. The older folks are good at that already. It’s the high school students who need to learn. Then, the GOP will be the natural match for people who understand what it means to be an American.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:40 am

      you can be as “entrepeneurial” as you like. Starting a business in the United States is fraught with multiple hurdles – starting right in your own community with licenses and regulations, then it gets worse as you progress to the state, and finally the worst are the federal government regulations and interference with your business – telling you who you can hire, how much you have to pay, what benefits you MUST give, and the matching taxes you must pay. Until the GOVERNMENT is taken OFF the backs of small business – there will be few new ones that start. Tell me why High School students don’t LEARN about the real world in school?

      Republicans with NO plan, or a plan that they don’t even try to present to the public is a fail. How often has Obama gone before the public – campaigning for four years to get Americans to BUY INTO his plan. How often have the Republicans done other than rebut it on Saturday morning in a five minute sound bite. Why don’t the Republicans lay it all out in front of the Citizens and be able to explain how their plan will work. NOT what the difference between their plan and the Democrats – but what their plan WILL accomplish.

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  13. jc711Comment by jc711
    November 17, 2012 @ 11:09 am

    JDZ, i gave you five stars. Not sure why it came up as 4, but you deserve 5.

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  14. keijiComment by keiji
    November 17, 2012 @ 11:16 am

    I am surprised to see Rubio, Jindal and Christie all who were seemingly loyal during the election jump on this as a political opportunity. I suppose since they are potential presidential candidates they are seeing that what Romney said got some of the mainstreamers and moderates and Dem’s unhappy and thought they could score some points. However at what cost? Do we want to promote a welfare state to win votes? Actually I don’t think this works anyhow when ever the Republicans try to out Democrat the Democrats the moderates and liberals still vote for the Democrats.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:44 am

      If Christie is a viable candidate – the Republicans will lose again. I think the same can be said for Jindal – now that his true colors show.

      Rubio is a possibility – but I am into wait and see what is what three years from now.

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  15. stickmanComment by stickman
    November 17, 2012 @ 11:16 am

    Mitt Romney LOST because he was selected by the media and the establishment progressive Republicans to lose. He NEVER put forth a plan of HOW he was going to fix the economy (the only jobs a politician can create are more tax sucking jobs), pay down the debt and quit the deficit spending. IF he had said the first thing he’d do was to allow the Canada Pipeline – that would have put about 20,000 to work, IF he had said he would get rid of all the extra constitutional Czars, IF he had said he would quit giving our tax money to foreign governments – those are a bunch of IF’s – but he NEVER told us what he would even begin to do other than mouth political rhetoric. Obama – flat told that his plan was to raise the taxes on the rich. Since the average income in America is about $47,000 (not NEAR the $250,000 mark) ( http://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/article/average-salary-in-united-states/15200316.aspx ), that’s at least the start of a plan the MOST Americans are willing to accept – it doesn’t affect “ME”. And while the $47K is average – there are bunches and bunches of folks that make less. Even a doctorate degree the average salary is less than $200K.

    Romney spoke ONCE to a University – guess which one – Liberty U. Not once did he attempt to reach out to the other college age kids, not once did he try to warn them of the impending disaster they were headed for with their Government Student loans that not even bankruptcy will discharge – they will have wages and salary garnished when they don’t pay it back – IF they find a job.

    How often did he speak to Hispanics on purpose – south east Florida, Texas, California? How did he even attempt to LEAD or sway the “African-American” vote. Obama could speak to and RALLY his base – it’s larger than the Republican base. Romney HAD to attract more than just independents – he had to pull a few of the votes from Obama’s base. AND HE FAILED to do that.

    The Republican Party is NOT a conservative Party – it is slightly to the right of the Progressive Democrats – but not by much, and they constantly push against the right, not really wanting them there. The conservatives, the Tea Party, and the Libertarians are the TRUE RINO’s (Republicans in name only); they continue to cling with desperate hope that they can somehow manage to outweigh the establishment bosses – and they cannot. ALL of the third parties now in existence are so minor, even the libertarians – they cannot put out a viable candidate – only once – Ross Perot – and that was because he had the MONEY to do it.

    IF you want a conservative Constitutional Party – you are going to have to create one, and you better get off your duff and get started, times a wasting. THEN you are going to have to have viable candidates at all levels – not just shoot for the Presidency; but local city council, County Commissioners, state legislators, governors, judges, and US Congress representatives and senators. FAILING that – conservatism is DEAD.

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    • agkcrbsComment by agkcrbs
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:44 am

      Wow… have you been following anything? You talk like a liberal. Liberals are the ones who buried their heads from Romney’s platform and then ridiculed him for not having one. Did you ever even visit his web-site or listen to his speeches or debates, his other university visits? Obviously not, to be here rattling off a list of stuff he did and then yelling that he “NEVER DID IT!” You closing your eyes with liberals, who intentionally locked themselves into media that were clearly lying to them, to confirm their own false beliefs, was not Romney’s failure. America made its choice between knowledge and ignorance, effort and dependency. Stop deflecting blame, or looking for some tyrannical saviour to rescue the country against its will.

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    • The SentinelComment by The Sentinel
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:49 am

      Interesting that a former slave and founding member of the Republican Party had this observation:
      “The competitors for this office sought as diligently to please their overseers, as the office-seekers in the political parties seek to please and deceive the people. The same traits of character might be seen in Colonel Lloyd’s slaves, as are seen in the slaves of the political parties.” Frederick Douglass, Narrative of the Life of
      Eliminate all political parties! should be the battle cry.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 11:58 am

      @ Comment by agkcrbs. Oh yes, I followed Romney, I voted for him. I also KNEW he would lose. And IF my feelings were and are that he NEVER stepped out and EXPLAINED and pounded it into the Americans – then he must not have done it very well. Obama had been pushing for four years – and his message WAS clear – tax the rich, the Republicans hate you because you are a minority, a homosexual, a woman who wants to be a **** and have them pay for your pains. SHOULD the Republicans roll over and join the party – they are already just the right wing of the Party, controlled by the left wing, that runs the country. There isn’t an ounce of difference between them. Because YOU knew that any slip of the tongue would be magnified to the max – why weren’t the Republicans thinking before they spoke – and then they do worse – the bash each other to death. The so-called debates were not debates – they were opportunities to bash each other lead by that same “main stream media leftists”. Months of throw knives at each other, stabbing each other – while Obama sits back and laughs, watching them destroy themselves. Then you pick almost the weakest of all the candidates to be the one to run. No fire and no planning. I’m ready to say Obama THREW the “first debate” – because then he could “improve” on the next one – and flat out WIN the final debate. Biden was able to chuckle his way through Ryan who was the WHITEST wrong pick that Romney could have made. and “I” like Ryan better than Romney – but two white guys with NO outreach, no strategy to enfold the minorities that are conservative. it was a slap in the face – and they stayed home.

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    • JDZComment by JDZ
      November 17, 2012 @ 12:04 pm

      You definitely have not been paying attention to what is either on the Romney website (59 action based plan in detail) or his summarized 5 step program of which he deals with opening up our oil and gas exploration including the approval of the Keystone pipeline and the pullback of extremist EPA regulations on the coal industry. He proposed a real “all of the above” national energy policy including nuclear which he contended would create 12 million jobs over his first four years in office.

      He proposed a repeal and replacement of Obamacare.

      He proposed a reduction of the tax rates for everyone and an overhaul of tax loopholes for those in the upper income brackets.

      He proposed a curb on the proposed cuts to our defense budgets and a replacement of critical war making inventory of all kinds which will create thousands of badly needed jobs of all kinds for Americans.

      He proposed a more aggressive set of import/export trade policies with China that would bring more jobs back to the USA.

      I could go on with the Romney positions in his platform but will not…but ask you, just what new ideas for turning around the mess we have with our economy did Obama offer in his campaign?

      Romney lost the election because of a lack of full support from conservative America, a myriad of fraudulent voting issues, and the complete support of the stitched together special interest groups who all voted for Obama and his socialist entitlement vision forvAmerica.

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  16. tenkComment by tenk
    November 17, 2012 @ 11:51 am

    Democrats did their big giveaways. GOP has to find way to shut down the money spigot so they can’t. GOP does not need to do giveaways. They have no lasting value. Selling what the GOP can do versus the Democrats is the issue. The GOP did a lousy job of selling this election. They and the candidate did a lot of talking and a lot of advertising but no one understood what the GOP was going to do for people that would be better than what the Dems had to offer. Message, message, message. Start now for 2016. Don’t wait until 2015. Win seats in 2014. Win the presidency in 2016.

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  17. agkcrbsComment by agkcrbs
    November 17, 2012 @ 12:09 pm

    Enough with the talk of “winning”. People CAN win elections and lose their souls at the same time — that’s not what conservatives are about. We don’t win at any cost; we don’t fight evil with evil. We don’t become big-government liberals to defeat big-government liberals. We don’t start making race a qualification to prove we’re not racist. We certainly don’t ask people what this insane woman governor just asked, “What can we do for you to make your life better, to prove we should be the winning party?” Someone who asks that obviously has no idea how to make people’s lives better in the first place, and is just pandering, and aspiring to be the same gift-tosser that just got re-elected. Anybody in the GOP pretending to be “outraged” at Romney’s truth-telling condemns themself with his same comment: they’re unscrupulous salesmen who don’t care what they’re selling, as long as they can enrich and empower themselves… as long as they can “win”. They’re not servants of the people; they’re rulers.

    We need to admit what our republican form of government already admits: the mass of people are easily swayed into delusion, and speaking the truth can lose elections — and that’s not an argument for us to become liars, or false prophets. If the truth hurts and the truth loses, then, guess what? We still tell the truth, and we lose (and survive whatever comes of it). That’s how it is. It’s frankly beyond disgusting that some ambitious elements in the GOP, after we barely fell short after almost entirely erasing Obama’s enormous 2008 lead, would immediately turn around like dogs to vomit, and try to adopt the lies they just lost to. If they think conservatives will support them, well, go ahead and find out.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

      No one asked you to WIN AT ANY COST. But there is no point in sticking your finger in the water if you aren’t prepared to FIGHT to win. No one asked you to lie, cheat or steal – but you on occasion must at least GUARD the ballot box and make sure that those that will don’t.
      @ Comment by JDZ November 17, 2012 @ 12:04 pm Romney “proposed” this or “proposed” that – you might do that in a board room – but propositions get voted down. Obama wasn’t proposing ANYTHING – he was saying WHAT he was going to do, not asking for permission. Raise your hand ask if you can go to the bathroom – heck no, “I’m GOING to the bathroom”. the road to H ell is paved with good intentions.

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  18. Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
    November 17, 2012 @ 12:41 pm

    What’s with the bashing? C’mon, think for a minute, these are liberals……….their brains have never matured. They are still in adolescent “pile it on” mode.

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  19. mysticComment by mystic
    November 17, 2012 @ 12:55 pm

    Read everyone’s comments…and I gotta say, what a great conversation on the article. Nice job!

    I become really uncomfortable when we begin to parcel and pack people into groups. First and foremost we are all Americans…everything after that is simply a contrived tactic to divide us and make us think our groups are more important than the first and foremost rule…we are ALL Americans first.

    Romeny lost due to one simply fact…rules and responsibility. He brought these two hard facts to the table…and many American’s only heard a “Dad’s in the room” speech instead of hearing what he was truly offering.

    Having Obama as our POTUS (and love um or hate him, he is All of our President)gives many a warm fuzzy feeling on a social level…which just like bff’s, you stand up for um even when you know they are wrong. I believe this is the base underlying feeling many Obama supporters endure daily. See, it’s easier to prove out a negative than to uphold a truth. Focusing on Romney does exactly that for Obama supporters.

    Whomever the RNC puts up this next election season, is gonna have to be Regean-esq, a uniter, a articulate orator, and someone that imbues trust and faith by the majority of our nations populace. Diving us into even two distinct groups is still a division…one the Dems love to push and elevate in order to continue in their plans that reshape America into something none of us are gonna recognize.

    I have empathy for those who voted for Obama…and who are about to get a real hard slap of reality over the next four years. What is going to happen vs. what they think is going to happen is chasms apart. The “I told you so” mentality isn’t going to move anyone forward. Instead, mentor, be informative, and ensure we are all listening to one another so as to produce a very clear vision of what we need in a President.

    (Fairly certain this will cut the current Dems to their knee’s. Light of day is always the best antiseptic to any infection that is pervasive within any system.)

    ~M

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  20. Allen SComment by Allen S
    November 17, 2012 @ 1:18 pm

    We the People need to be prepared for what is going to happen to our country under the regime of -0. How?
    II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.
    I Tim 2:1-2 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and ALL who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
    One never knows how God will deal with our country if we put Him first in our daily lives…
    Ex 9:17 “But, indeed, for this reason I have ALLOWED you to remain, in order to show you My power and in order to proclaim My name through all the earth. Still you exalt yourself against MY people by not letting them go.
    Rom 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

      And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

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  21. jkgould0607389Comment by jkgould0607389
    November 17, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

    I live in Chicago the amount of free stuff, (well it is not free taxpayers are paying the bill) given to Democrat Political activist and voters is insane. They magically get subsidized apartments,(when others cannot get in) food, clothing really anything they need. They do not have to be consumers at all whatsoever. Everything is provided for them……they will try to persaude you to this way of life using incredibly insane tactics………if you live here and see this and complain….you will start getting your property illegaly taken, you will get harrassed, followed or my all time favorite even physically assaulted. And NO ONE WILL help you….except maybe some Republicans who are NOT naive that this is going on. Mr. Romney was speaking the absolute truth about gifts and basically bribes because that is what they are. And the people in Chicago getting these insane favors at your expense (the taxpayer) DO NOT want anyone coming along and messing up their favor system. THIS IS GOING ON! And someone needs to have the guts to shut it down!

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 2:45 pm

      Let me tell you – it’s not just Chicago – it’s EVERY big city – if anything – Atlanta is worse.

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  22. Robert Edward JohnsonComment by Robert Edward Johnson
    November 17, 2012 @ 2:33 pm

    Hmmm….it may have even been on YOUR website that I saw it mentioned the Dems have two female or minority Governors, we have seven. I seem also to recall that Bobby Eberle is FROM Louisiana, I even seem to recall Eberle is an Acadian name. Yet two of those Republican minority Governors, Martinez of NM (which we lost thanks to Mitt Romney’s self-deportation stupidity instead of the more reasonable outlook of Perry, Gingrich, Paul, and Johnson) and Jindal of LA, Bobby Eberle’s own state, are telling all of us some reasonable things and Bobby Eberle won’t listen. Sort of like the entire hierarchy of the GOP.

    I recall a Huntsman woman mentioning at the national Log Cabin Convention that only in the GOP would a person in their forties at a YOUNG Republican Convention NOT be seen as out of place. Still, NONE of you will listen. Just remember, Gary Johnson got a bigger increase in votes over Bob Barr in absolute terms (not to mention percentage terms!) than Mitt Romney did over McCain. All of this should be pretty ominous to the GOP, but none of you will listen.

    We keep on with the neocon/theocon albatrosses from Bush and add a new one, the anti-immigrant albatross (way to go, Michael ssssSAVAGE) instead of going hunting where the ducks are which is Hispanics and Muslims. You know that kow-tow to the Jewish vote on Israel that was supposed to get us FloriDUHHHH? Well, uh, how did THAT work for us? I’ll bet it drove away a lot of Muslim voters who now outnumber Jewish ones, and I’ll bet it drove a lot of Ron Paul fence-sitters into the arms of the Libertarian Party, which nearly took Florida from the GOP the way it took NC and IN in 2008. How did our Bush-era sycophant strategy towards Colin “My Lai” Powell and Conartista Rice work for us with getting black votes? Not so much, but I’ll bet it made some bubbas in Florida and Virginia decide to stay home or vote for Gary Johnson. All that stuff “worked for us” about as well as Romney’s brown-face performance for Univision. Maybe he should try better positions on the issues next time.

    Back in the middle of 2011, CNN had Ron Paul losing to Obama by the LEAST votes compared to the other GOP candidates. But why am I even bothering to mention any of this, since it’s obvious from Eberle’s article that he won’t even listen to young minority and female governors within his own party who unlike him are successful politicians who WON elections, something that the GOP hierarchy, and perhaps some of the more air-headed neocon/theocon types in the Tea Party, seemingly have no interest in doing.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 2:49 pm

      YOU have said it much better than I did. THank you.

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  23. Robert Edward JohnsonComment by Robert Edward Johnson
    November 17, 2012 @ 2:40 pm

    A moment ago, I gave the complex answer as to “Why the Romney Bashing?” My simplest answer is the following: thanks to Obama’s moronic handling of the economy and even some foreign policy matters like Benghazi, the election was Mitt Romney’s to lose, and he lost it. So much for the usual arrogant strain within the country club GOP for having a rich businessman instead of an actual “real” politician who came up through the ranks like Obama, first being a State Rep, then a State Senator, then trying for Congress and failing, but then trying for Senate and succeeding (did the IL GOP REALLY have to go out of state and get Alan Keyes who has never been elected dogcatcher? couldn’t POSSIBLY have had found a successful GOP politician in Illinois and ignored the race issue). Nope, we gotta nominate idiots like Clete Williams here in TX whose election against Ann Richards it was to lose, and he lost it. We HAVE to nominate mean old war veterans who dump their wives for younger women like Bob Dull and John McCain. Keep on the way you’re going. The Libertarian Party needs what ought to be YOUR votes.

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  24. docfreemanComment by docfreeman
    November 17, 2012 @ 2:47 pm

    It is a shame that Bobby Jindal is not a natural born citizen of America. Yes he was born here, but once again his parents were not American citizens. I assume that the Republicans will follow the Constitution which the Democrats do not since we have a president that is not eligible per our Constitution. I have lost all faith in Congress when they fail to up hold their oaths of office, “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.” All the Democrats have forsaken their oath of office.

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    • stickmanComment by stickman
      November 17, 2012 @ 2:52 pm

      Unless someone PROVES Obama is a natural born citizen – and they have not – you are barking up the wrong tree – and this is ONE more reason the GOP will continue to lose.

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  25. warmanna2135Comment by warmanna2135
    November 17, 2012 @ 3:12 pm

    Shame on the

    Shame on the GOP. The election was decided from the get-go. Romney/Ryan are decent people who had a plan to help the economy. An older man I talked to recently told me that they’re all liars and he didn’t vote. How many more older people stayed home? I’m older, too, from Ohio, but in effect, my vote really didn’t matter. The large Ohio cities carried Ohio for Obama. The rest of the state was red. Toledo, Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati-all in the union’s pocket. How can nice, righteous people turn around the corruptness that has invaded our government? Perhaps it has been there all along. I am thankful I am at the tail end of my life; I shudder for the young people who will have no clue how to survive when another country overtakes us. Hellllllloooooo China.

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  26. katatkmsComment by katatkms
    November 17, 2012 @ 3:16 pm

    I know what you mean, Why the bashing Romney? When will Our Voices be heard?
    I and I know others like myself are really upset that he lost. What I don’t understand is with all the reports of Votes not being counted, ballots being lost, military ballots not counted, NAACP and Black panthers intimadating voters, throwing or blocking people from voting, double and numerous people voting more then once and even 67 times as one man stated, machines rigged to go to Obama when people were voting for Romney, also contributions coming from overseas to pay for Obama and when reported nothing was done to stop it, more people voting in counties outnumbered voters then there were registered voters, bus loads of illegals voting etc etc. How come the Republicans and others are not investigating this. I and others do not like it when this is apparently be swept under the rug. We the American people need to rise up and demand an investigation and NOT MOVE FORWARD AND AVOID THIS VOTER FRAUD. We feel that Romney and Ryan needs to Demand this investigation because we believe that Romney/Ryan did win and Obama lost and his democrats know it but want to suppress it. Stand up and let our voices and demands be heard. What will you do??

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    • twspears144Comment by twspears144
      November 18, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

      The best man lost the worst man won that is the summation of the election. Governor Jindal’s comments about Mitt Romney’s comments on the reason he lost the election. They were gifts to Young men, minorities and Young women. Mitt was certainly right and most responsible Republicans believe and know this was the reason. Jindals comments are completely wrong and will never recieve the support of conservatives. One question for Jindal is what did you do to get out the Republican vote in Louisiana three million republican voters nation wide could have won the election for Mitt Romney. If Jindal thinks he has the right message for the Republican Party this latest bashing of Mitt Romney does not help his cause. Mitt Romney’s losing was not his fault it was the Republican Party’s they took on the Democratic Parties position of division and time will prove that the Republicans missed a golden opportunity to elect the greatist President ever Mitt Romney. Trenton

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  27. bobmontyComment by bobmonty
    November 17, 2012 @ 3:22 pm

    What has really changed in thousands of years of “humanity” on Earth? In the words of satirist and poet, Juvenal of ancient Rome:

    “The people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now concerns itself no more, and longs eagerly for just two things – bread and circuses!”
    ~ Decimus Junius Juvenalis

    Read the following for more information:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

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  28. brierebearComment by brierebear
    November 17, 2012 @ 4:19 pm

    Here was the problem: had Romney been left to his own centrist/moderate devices, instead of having the “tea party” and neo-conservatives run the show, he might have won the election because he would have gained more support from non-ideological mainstream Republicans. This is why his “gift” comments received plenty of condemnation, because they were insulting.

    Who do you look for in 2016? I’m not a fan of what Chris Christie has done in New Jersey, by slashing funding that provided necessary services to the majority of residents, but he is a moderate. That’s the direction Republicans better consider quickly before they lose more mainstream support in 2014, let alone 2016 if they present a hardcore conservative.

    So many people claim they love Reagan, but even he would not have been the candidate this time around because the hardcore folks would have considered him too moderate.

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  29. jaijacobiaComment by jaijacobia
    November 17, 2012 @ 7:31 pm

    There is no way the GOP lost the election legally. It simply did not happen. Obama did not win because he got the minority vote. He did not win because he got the independent vote. He won because he committed a CRIME!
    The situation in Cleveland and Philadelphia is just a microcosm of the vote tampering that obviously took place nationwide. And the MSM, the CIA and the FBI are covering it up. It has happened in other countries and now it has happened here.
    As we have seen over the past four years, the Democrat party and Obama are capable of absolutely anything. Legal, illegal, constitutional, unconstitutional, and even treasonous, it matters not, they know the corrupt media will cover for them. But even the citizens most addicted to the mass media know the past four years have been the most miserable in American history.

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  30. JDZComment by JDZ
    November 17, 2012 @ 7:49 pm

    We can continue debating/discussing why Romney lost the election and who should be a candidate for President in 2016 and it is healthy to talk about it, however there are some realities that we have to face:

    1. Romney received 3 million fewer Republican votes then McCain received in 2008. There were third party candidates that took votes from Romney and there were significant voting irregularities including many voting districts where Romney received zero votes. None of this should have happened, particularly in the swing states where the results were questionable. Every Republican should have voted for Romney.

    2. Obama got 95% of the Black vote because he is Black, and race should not be the reason for voting for any candidate, regardless of race. The African American voters lost a lot of respect and support in the country for behaving in this irresponsible manner.

    3. Over 70 % of the Hispanics voted for Barrack Obama and, to me, that just shows how self serving they are and unconcerned about the extreme economic problems our country is facing which ultimately is going to come back to bite them as well.

    4. We have 100 million Americans living off of welfare and food stamps and who will continue to vote Democrat for self serving reasons because they are afraid that Republicans MAY cut back on these programs or at least enforce stricter eligibility rules.

    5. The public service unions control most of the Democrat politicians at all levels of government and have a very partisan and incestuous relationship with them. These unions have convinced liberal politicians to collect their union dues through direct paycheck deductions and turn millions of dollars in dues back into campaign donations for these same liberal politicians. These union leaders intimidate all of their members into voting Democrat no matter how incompetent the candidate may be.

    6. We have millions of young Americans voting Democrat, particularly younger and unmarried women, and I am not sure why they are voting for a failed President unless it is through associations with peers or Hollywood celebrities or perceived women rights distractions. Maybe just pure ignorance of the facts.

    The voting blocks in our country have changed over the years and enough special interest groups have now been pulled together under the Democratic umbrella and represent the 47% or more that Romney was talking about. I am not sure any candidate could have won this election other then Obama, and unless Americans wake up to how they are being used by the Democrats in order to stay in power, this country is going to continue its decline because the Dem candidates have the majority of the voting blocks.

    It is California in the making at the federal government level.

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  31. rosecoatsComment by rosecoats
    November 17, 2012 @ 7:55 pm

    http://time4liberty.blogspot.com/2012/11/no-more-mr-nice-guy.html

    Well the elections are over, but the sting of a defeat as a result of a relatively close margin remains. We’re told to stop pointing out the suspicious nature of dozens of election precincts with a greater than 100% voter turnout, and 100% of the vote going to Obama. We aren’t supposed to notice that the election was won due to a swing of about 70,000 strategically-placed votes originating in highly-populated urban areas. We are told to suck it up, to shut up and go away, to quit pointing out the foibles of Obama in regard to Benghazi, Fast and Furious, our dismal economic status, federally-regulated health care, and a multitude of other national disgraces. “We’ve silenced the mainstream news networks, it’s time for all the rest of you to fall in line” the liberal media lectures us.
    Even some leaders of the Republican party are caving; ready to compromise our core values and capitulate to the dictates of one who doesn’t know the meaning of conciliation, as his entire political life is founded on fostering strife and discord regarding race, religion, sex and financial status.
    We were scolded by the state-conrolled media that our candidate was too conservative to attract the independents, while pundits on the conservative side claim that in fact, he was too far to the left to appeal to the conservative base. We are too old, white and angry, the liberals claim. We are told we need to embrace amnesty for illegals, even though our candidate in 2008 who supported amnesty also lost handily. We’re too antagonistic to women, the popular culture tells us, while in 2008, we placed a very accomplished woman in the vice-presidential spot, only to watch her crucified by the media. In fact, that has been the entire, and successful strategy of this adminstration and their lapdog, statist media; to paint the Republican candidates with negative stereotypes; to portray them as being out of touch and hate-filled. It matters not that this protrayal is untrue. It only matters that the public believes it to be true.
    The Republican campaign has relied on their faith in the ability of the electorate to evaluate the plain facts and make their own informed assessment of the candidates. When Obama responded weakly in the debates about the economy, he was not heartily challenged. No one attacked his lack of a plan, or the reason that his only talking point, more taxes on the rich, would not work and would in fact adversely affect everyone, not just the wealthy. When the entire Obama administration claimed for weeks that the attack in Libya was not a coordinated effort by Islamic extremists, but a spontaneous protest over a video, they were not challenged. That lie had been exposed and was so obviously false that the voter would noticed, right? When Candy Crowley waved her paper and claimed that Romney was lying, no one came back to challenged her….not even in the vert next and final debate, which was focused on foreign policy. When the Obama campaign stated that conservatives had declared “war on women” we did not point out their hypocrisy. When they claimed that support of traditional marriage was based on “hate” we did not counter that claim with the fact marriage status is a local issue; not a federal one; and that all of us have gay friends and relatives who we dearly love; heck, gay Americans need their jobs too! When they claimed over and over that the Republican party is racist, we did not counter and point out the racist basis of the Democratic party and their racially divisive campaign strategy. When abortion was continually brought to the forefront, no one on our side said, listen, this is a red herring. The Supreme Court has settled the issue and it is not on the table for any change. We failed to point out that Obama not only supports abortion, but he strongly supports the heinous practice of partial-birth abortion, where viable infants so well-developed as to feel pain, are literally tortured and dismembered before they are discarded. Poll after poll reflects the fact that the majority of the public rejects the concept of partial-birth abortion and indeed abortion in general, and in fact they agree with all the positions of the Republican party including lower taxes, more economic freedom, and the need to repeal Obamacare. Why, then, does the electorate reject our candidates who embrace the ideals of the majority?
    We need to admit that there is a very definite reason that almost all blacks, and the majority of women, Hispanics and young voters swung to Obama, even though he does not really represent the values of any of these groups in anything but a superficial and disingenous way. We need to come to grips with the power of the media in influencing public opinion. If the media continues to pound falsehoods into the public psyche, the voters will believe those falsehoods to be true.
    It wouldn’t have mattered if the Republicans had been represented by Ron Paul, or Newt Gingrich, or even by Jesus Christ himself; there would have been a Candy Crowley there angrily waving her papers with the intent to smear him using a blatant lie. Crowley later admitted that she was wrong, but it is impossible to put the toothpaste back in the tube after the fact. The damage had been done. Sadly, most of the public is not savvy enough to catch on to such tactics.
    We will not win elections as long as we allow the media to control the discussion. Debate “moderators” need to be nominated by both parties, and agreed upon based on impartiality. How can you expect to garner a positive public opinion with biased moderators? It’s impossible.
    Since time immemorial it has been known that negative campaigning works. The Democrats are crafty enough to use “go negative” as their entire strategy. They had the luxury this time of months of relentless smears and negativity while he Republicans were busily attacking our own candidates for many months. Can we really recover from such negative tactics, when Obama had NO ONE on his side challenging him? Apparently not. This is the advantage of incumbency.
    I’ve read literally dozens of article comments by authors who would have been able to produce better campaign ads than what we saw out of the Republican National Committee.
    Only when Republicans fight back vigorously against the lies perpetrated against our candidates and attack our opponents with the vigor with which they attack us, we might have the proverbial “fighting chance”. We also need to quit rolling over and accepting a slew of liberal debate moderators. And, we need to address election reform, as fraud appears to have definitely played a role in the outcome of this election. We might point out that Obama’s foreign policy has not differed significantly from that of George Bush. (THAT will really get their hackles up!) Finally, we need to continue to pound away relentlessly at the Obama administration’s “War on Workers”, “War on Life”, “War on Liberty” and “War on Prosperity”.
    We cannot remain above the fray and rely on rational, well-informed people to place their intelligent, well-thought-out vote. Most people wield their vote the same way they do their cash to buy merchandise; based on advertising and an idealogical image, not on facts. Dirty politics works, and it’s time to fight dirty. Either that or be prepared to kiss our free republic goodbye and embrace instead a future as “useful idiots” for the oppressive socialist regime.
    I think America is worth fighting for, and hope that others will join in the fight. No more “Mr. Nice Guy” !

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    • barfaulknerComment by barfaulkner
      November 17, 2012 @ 9:50 pm

      I am going to say that the one thing that Mitt Romney did not do that would have given him the election. CLOSE THE BORDERS and SEND THEM HOME. The amount of people in the US that believes that we are losing our jobs to the illegals is staggering. My brother who does not vote said he would run.. yes RUN to the nearest voting booth if one candidate said they would close the borders. The illegals have overrun the construction industry, the meat processing industry, the list goes on and on. The Hispanics were not going to vote for Romney so why did he not stand up on this issue. It would have brought Republicans to the polls. This is a no brainer! He lost because of it.

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    • hollybComment by hollyb
      November 18, 2012 @ 12:07 am

      Let’s not forget the names of the republican bashing Romney in 2016, I know i sure won’t….i don’t care for Jindal anyway…..and as for the big fat Man from NJ pfffffffffff
      We feel that Romney and Ryan needs to Demand this investigation because we believe that Romney/Ryan did win and Obama lost and his democrats know it but want to suppress it. Stand up and let our voices and demands be heard. What will you do?? Romney was most certainly the best man for the job.not Obama

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    • gbearComment by gbear
      November 18, 2012 @ 3:25 am

      So let me get this right, criticizing Romney is wrong but Romney having bashed away at his primary opponents was all fine and good? Considering that Romney is currently 600,000 votes under what McCain got in 2008, it seems maybe a few million GOP voters felt about Romney the way Romney supporters feel about anyone who criticizes their guy.

      Obama got 6M less votes than in 2008 and we still couldn’t beat him. That’s the result of having a weak candidate go up against him, plain and simple.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 18, 2012 @ 11:13 am

      barfaulkner, if we’ve learned anything from this election it’s that your approach is part of what did the Republicans in this time. As much I might agree with you, the idea of deporting all illegals is simplyea loser. You can’t just blow off the Hispanic vote because there are just too many of them now. If we’re going to win we need to deal with the problem of illegal immigration in way which doesn’t turn off millions of voters. And I’m not saying give them amnesty because I’ve fighting against that for years. There just to be some middle ground at this point, but I really can’t say exactly where that would be right now.

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  32. gavinwcaComment by gavinwca
    November 18, 2012 @ 12:02 am

    Romney did not loose the election, Barack- clause stole the election. When florida voting distrilvcts all had between 100% to 141%of registered voters vote, Ohio had 100 districts that had 90% to 100 % of voters vote for Barack-Clause ,Pennsylvania threw out republican observers, and had 54 districts where 100% of votes went to Barack_Clause , one district in Florida had 175,000 voters and 240, 000 ballots requested. This is absolute voter fraud, the same thing happened in Virginia . Voteing machines changing Romneys name to Barack_Clause when the vote is selected. The Russians said voters do not decide elections, the people who count votes decide elections, the same applies in America now. When Americans can no longer depend on the ballot box revulation follows .we no longer believe the voteing process works in America anymore.

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  33. vesuvius1313Comment by vesuvius1313
    November 18, 2012 @ 12:11 am

    Bobbie maybe needed to wait longer to write. The point Chavez made about minority and young outreach wasn’t about what the gov’t could do for them but what conservative ideas would do for them. Romney didn’t work to go after the youth vote and if we don’t reach out to blacks and Hispanics then the party is doomed to fail and I need to find a new political party to vote for. I am tired of the establishment republicans telling us to follow losing strategies again and again.

    The party does have too many older white guys running the campaigns and aren’t inclusive enough so that the party does look monolithic. I have had it with the party and ready to bolt unless things change in a way that can be seen. Boehner as speaker of the House isn’t the way to show Tea Party members or Ron Paul supporters the party is ready to include us. There should be a focus on three concerns – limited gov’t based on the Constitution, balanced budget, strong defense focused on keeping our borders secure. Conservative ideas are working men and women beliefs and the party needs to start reflecting that instead of reflecting they are the party of the rich.

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  34. gbearComment by gbear
    November 18, 2012 @ 3:13 am

    Romney deserves to be criticized for running such a weak campaign. Unlike previous losing GOP campaigns by Dole and McCain, Romney had vast financial resources to work with but ended up with no better result. Romney’s inability to talk about anything other than economics, and even there with to narrow of a focus, coupled with his authenticity problem made him a poor candidate from the get go. And spending tens of millions of dollars trashing his GOP primary opponets in both 2008 and 2012 didn’t help his cause either. (Note to future GOP candidates, if you want supporters of other candidates to vote for you if you happen to win the nomination, it might be wise to not pee them off during the primaries).

    But more importantly than Romney being a terrible candidate to go up against Obama is the people in the GOP (that includes many in conservative media circles) that forced this guy upon us. Never again should the Ann Coulter’s or Hugh Hewiit’s of the world have any say on who the nominee should be. Go write your books and blab away on radio and TV, but stay the heck away from dictating who the “acceptable” candidates are!

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 18, 2012 @ 10:54 am

      Nobody “forced” Romney upon us, gbear. He simply got the most votes of all the candidates in the primary. You can second-guess his nomination all you want but at the end of the day we have only ourselves to blame. As for p-ing off the other candidates, well that’s pretty much par for the course during a primary, and when it’s all over the party was fairly united behind Romney. Unfortunately it just wasn’t enough to win the election.

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  35. empty pocketsComment by empty pockets
    November 18, 2012 @ 8:20 am

    So we’re going to bash the ones who bash? Even though they, too are right…or mostly? Okay, I’ll play…Romney, good man, didn’t take the fight to Obama. He missed too many opportunities. It was the CO (community organizer, problem maker) vs. the CEO (chief executive officer, problem solver)and the CO made more voters believe he was “one of them”. Oh, and the free stuff. The left has been buying votes with free stuff for a long time. The right has joined in, too, but it ends up costing us votes. For Dems it gets them votes. The double standard enforced by a majority of the media allows them to get by with lying, but not the GOP. And the GOP has never worked hard enough to get the real facts out there. The NAACP? Started by three white Republicans, two men and one woman. Then we let the left coopt it and use it against us. WE built it. Romney spent a day as a garbageman in Boston among other jobs. How many of you know that? Why doesn’t everybody?

    Jindal is correct. So is Martinez, though less so. Though it’s the left that has divided people, we bought into it. Demographics ring a bell? And government can help people have better lives—mostly by getting out of the way and coloring INSIDE the constitutional lines for its authority. There’s very little the federal government can do better than the private sector. And the more it tries to do, the worse it does everything. Did we make that case? No. There’s ample proof. Ask Stossel. He’s one of very few who focus on that.

    We’ve allowed the left to frame all the discussions. They break our diverse population into batches smaller and smaller then label them with numbers, percentages. The 53% vs the 47%. The 99% vs the 1%. Jindhal is right. It’s about the 100%. And in this election slightly less than one half of the voting age population bothered to show up.

    So Obama got just over half the ones who did, but that’s only 1/4 of the voting age population. Romney got just under 1/4. What about the other HALF? Why are they so disengaged? Maybe pictures of Romney as a garbageman would have reached some of them. Or pictures of Condi as a poor child who grew up to be the first black woman Secretary of State. We have a lot of other poster children for success from little or nothing. Is it “beneath” us to show that, not just tell it, over and over? That’s where Martinez is right. We can’t just preach at people, tell them we know best and expect them to happily follow us.

    We’ve tried appeasing the left, joining in on bashing our own when the left says they’ve been “bad”. That emboldens them just as it would any bully.

    We need to stop giving up and start standing up, if we have the backbone. In an increasingly visual society, maybe we need to draw more pictures. (We laughed at “Julia” but she/Obama reached a lot of people.) That has a better chance of restoring hope to the half who sat it out and of getting the attention and possibly support of many of that “47%” who really do want more from life than a hand out. Star Parker did.

    What good are resources if we don’t use them? We don’t need backbone to lay down. If we aren’t demonstrably different from the left, why should anyone bother to vote? The right said we have better ideas, policies that work, but we didn’t SHOW them that they have worked and can again. So many stories we didn’t tell that demonstrate that conservatism really does help everyone, even the least among us.

    You may call it dumbing down. I prefer “going back to the basics”. We can’t save them all, but we can definately do better than we’re doing. Because conservatism is about the 100%.

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  36. crosstownbus1Comment by crosstownbus1
    November 18, 2012 @ 11:19 am

    With all of the back and forth banter that’s going on, you’d think the election was scheduled for next week. NEWSFLASH! The election is over! Romney lost. Barack Obama has been re-elected to the office of President of the United States. Don’t like it? Leave the country.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 18, 2012 @ 11:26 am

      Right, that’s kind of like what you Obama people said last time: “He won, get over it.” If you guys would leave the country it just might be salvagable. Will you promise to leave the country if a Republican gets elected next time?

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  37. objectiveobjectivistComment by objectiveobjectivist
    November 18, 2012 @ 11:37 am

    Bottom Line Up Front: we need more discussion not less; we need to encourage debate and critiques; we need more diverse set of folks under the Republican tent; BUT “Speak No Ill of Fellow Republicans.” We do this simply by praising the speaker but disagreeing with the approach. We do the disagreeing where it might do some good – among fellow Republicans rather than to a hostile media.

    To win we want a broad coalition (Tea Party, Libertarian, Objectivist, Conservative, Moderate energetically working and voting and making sure the “Democratic ghosts” don’t rise up from the graves in such places as Cook County and Duval County. In many ways, Romney and our campaign in 2012 was ideal.

    What went wrong? Reality check: we are a minority party, we were running against a sitting President, our candidate had modest name recognition, we started out way behind, the media is hostile, there probably was substantial voter fraud, the Democrats probably worked smarter and harder in getting the vote out, racism was working against us.

    What do we do? We redouble our efforts and build for 2016! Losing in 2012 is probably a good thing. Yes, pray for the country. However, the US will probably survive four more years -republican government is resilient and self correcting. Recall Goldwater’s loss laying the groundwork for Reagan’s victory.

    More specifically what do we do? Articulate the big principles that differentiate us from the Democrats that everyone in the tent can agree with. Then attack the Democrats (not fellow Republicans) using specific proposals that reinforce these differences and are positive steps for the country. These “campaign issues or planks” are judiciously chosen and we may disagree with the specifics but we accept them because they were embraced by our fellow Republicans after meeting in the big tent.
    In addition, attack the Democrats on issues that divide their base and that are easy calls for independents. For example, pressure them to repudiate the Black Muslims, revolutionary cells such as the Weathermen, the DNC representative from NY who threatened on national TV coverage of the convention to assassinate Romney. The Democrats have a broad tent too but are better then us (with the help of the biased media and the polite Republican party) in glossing over their differences.

    Finally, use modern technology to win. We should have the goal of “tracking” votes – ours, independents, and theirs prior to election and delivery of these votes to the ballot box. Hard but doable (with different degrees of fidelity) with modern technology. Have well prepared “freedom riders” who poll watch in the Democratic dominated voting precincts in particular.

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    • pudgyComment by pudgy
      November 18, 2012 @ 12:04 pm

      Lots of hot air, very low on action, guys and galls. The next chance we get is 2014. Start working on ways to get the liberals up for election out of the Senate. Top target is Harry Reid. This is a must.

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  38. vevaComment by veva
    November 18, 2012 @ 3:55 pm

    ”– but two white guys with NO outreach, no strategy to enfold the minorities that are conservative.” What’s wrong with being white?

    Martin Luther King said he prayed for the day we would not be judged by the color of our skin! Does that not also mean not being judged for being white? Being black or tan should not be a negative OR benefit? If the people who vote in this country are “citizens”, then shouldn’t the concerns of all be the same? Why do some have to have special attention? If they are Americans. isn’t supporting America everyones responsibility? And if you support America, and its principles of liberty and freedom, why do you ask for “special” attention? WHY do you need that in order to be responsible, to become informed of the issues that pertain to all, to chose a leader that has the country in his/her best interest? Why does there need to be a candidate from the smallest, or second smallest, minority group out of 318 million people? Shouldn’t candidates for president of U.S. be only those who qualify under the U.S. Constitution, qualify by maturity, are educated, knowledgable about governance, experienced in leadership, are loyal to the U. S. and show the most honesty, and more? But not what color or tint of their skin.

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  39. Allen SComment by Allen S
    November 18, 2012 @ 7:09 pm

    ONE OF THE BEST THEORIES OF THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
    From a teacher in the Nashville area
    “We are worried about ‘the cow’ when it is all about the ‘Ice Cream. The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching 3rd grade. The last Presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote. To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
    The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.
    I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support.
    I had never seen Olivia’s mother.
    The day arrived when they were to make their speeches.
    Jamie went first.
    He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place.
    He ended by promising to do his very best.
    Everyone applauded and he sat down.
    Now is was Olivia’s turn to speak.
    Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream.” She sat down.
    The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want ice cream.”
    She surely would say more. She did not have to.
    A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure. But no one pursued that question. They took her at her word.
    Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it…She didn’t know.
    The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream…
    Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.
    Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream and 51.4 % of the people reacted like nine year olds.
    They want ice cream.
    The other 48.6% percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow and clean up the mess.”
    This is the ice cream Obama promised us!
    Remember, the government cannot give anything to anyone that they have not first taken away from someone else.
    Did you vote for the ice cream?
    THAT, MY FRIEND, IS HOW OBAMA GOT ELECTED!

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  40. sheenaComment by sheena
    November 21, 2012 @ 6:17 pm

    There has been a line drawn in the sand with the 2012 election. I personally would have liked Romney to drawn strong contrasts between his ” Reagan” type policies and the politics of personal destruction which won the election for Obama. Romney was possibly too much of a gentleman in an atmosphere of vipers. Republican candidates need to stand up, tell the truth and return to a conservative platform.
    Any reasonable, right minded person who loves light more than darkness will be able to recognize the “enemy” within the progressive, liberal, socialist, agenda of the DEMONOCRATS!
    We are at a tipping point. Obama’s policies will eventually enslave all of us if we don’t stand up for TRUTH! We need leader that take a moral high ground ( which Romney did) but we cannot be afraid to call a spade a spade. I don’t mean that in racial terms. But speaking of Blacks, and Hispanic and unfortunately many women, they are clueless to what is really going on. Obama says whatever he thinks people want to hear and unfortunately many are stupid, naive or ignorant enough to believe him. I’m grateful God is a perfect Judge and after all is said and done, he will judge accordingly. He knows the intent of our hearts. The devil is the great deceiver. He will use whatever tactic he must to ensnare us in his web of lies and deceit. It’s time for America to WAKE-UP! We are getting close to the edge of a precipous from which there will be NO RETURN! Unfortunately, when reckoning occurs, many will find themselves in the lake of fire! From which there will be no return! OUCH!

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    • reelmanComment by reelman
      November 22, 2012 @ 7:37 pm

      Circular GOP firing squad now…the dimdems circle the wagons and change NOTHING in their positions (abortion/monster govt/hi debt/welfare state etc) after they lose…but the GOP….nooooo, they sissy-up fast and after 2 straight moderates lost to a bold liar…
      have not learned their lesson.

      Since when does OzBama have anything to brag about except the win?
      We are a basket case and all he can do is continue the bold lies/smears/demon hunting…
      he put nothing specific forward of course…gutless counterpuncher as all dimdems and the pawn media change their dirty diapers daily so its tough but we are STILL in a crisis so let OzBama do the freezes and cuts! Its HIS extra 6 trillion that bought the votes and no jobs.
      HE socialized medicine and lied about the cost too (3x more so far now).

      NO MORE TAXES…its a spending (to buy votes) problem and always has been…
      and ditch Baseline Budgeting…its a major cause of the overspending because
      it has built-in 5-12% increases in so many federal depts!
      Imagine…automatic, no matter what…BTW, now that ignoring reality and smearing works…look for the pawn media to start this spring on Rubio, etc…how do the genius GOP consultants plan to counter that month after month?

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  41. slynxComment by slynx
    November 23, 2012 @ 8:02 am

    It’s no wonder Republicans keep losing when folks like Jindal & Martinez abandon truth in favor of pandering to minorities exactly like Democrats do! Obviously, they have neither decency nor loyalty in their characters. These are “rising stars” in the Republican party? God help us.

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  42. ladydaiComment by ladydai
    November 24, 2012 @ 1:29 am

    I hope the Reps soon get tired of ripping each other apart. Fraud may have cost Romney the election. I do wish those who know their vote could not have been counted would step forth. This is something we need to work on and not just complain about after it happens.
    The Dems will continue with their fraud and dishonest attacks, promises of taking care of from cradle to grave and when all else fails charges of “racism.” Unlike the Reps they are a unified party. Look at Pelosi and her gang.
    We can discuss many reasons why Romney lost the election but the one that concerns me the most is the many Reps who did not vote. If they had would that have made the difference? Those who did not vote or voted for a third party candidate will see the consequences of O’s win in the next four years as will the rest of us.
    I thought we understood that the outcome of this election was life or death for our country…..whatever happened to anybody but Obama? I think the Dems were able to convince many Reps that Romney was a “rich bad guy.” “Lesser of two evils” has become like scratching fingers on a blackboard to me. We had the most contrasting candidates of any election in my lifetime.
    So what do we do now and in the near future? Hopefully we will be much better united by the 2014 mid term elections.
    What about the behind the scenes people…those who lead and speak for the candidates. Maybe we need some new ones…those with some fight. Was Romney advised to pull back after the first debate, to talk only about the economy and worst of all to act like a watered down Dem.
    First of all we need to demand that not all of the four moderators in the debates be Dem supporters. What is wrong with the Rep committee members!
    Then we need to get out and over our personal vile toward our fellow Reps and support our nominees.
    United we stand divided we fall.

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