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Denny's Joins Growing List of Restaurants Considering 'Obamacare Charge'

By Bobby Eberle

On Tuesday, I wrote about Papa John's CEO John Schnatter coming under fire from left wing groups for speaking out against the new fees and taxes that will be imposed on his company because of Obamacare. He's not the only one. An owner of 40 Denny's Restaurant franchises says the new Obamacare fees will be passed right along to customers and employees.

As reported by the Daily Mail, Florida restaurant owner John Metz says he will offset the costs of Obamacare by "adding a five percent surcharge to customers' bills and will reduce his employees' hours."

Obamacare requires businesses or franchises with more than 50 workers must offer an approved insurance plan or pay a penalty of $2,000 for each full-time worker over 30 workers.

The program mandates that only employees working more than 30 hours a week are covered under their employers health insurance plan, chains like Olive Garden and Red Lobster are already considering reduced worker hours.

"Obviously, I'd love to cover all our employees under that insurance," said Metz.

"But to pay $5,000 per employee would cost us $175,000 per restaurant and unfortunately, most of our restaurants don't make $175,000 a year. I can't afford it."

Add Denny's to a growing list of restaurants considering ways to combat the costs associated with Obamacare: Papa John's, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Applebee's.

What's amazing is that most Americans simply don't understand what is going on. This is NOT about health care... it's about health insurance. And with Obama mandating a new government health insurance plan, it put the federal government more in control of your health care decisions. Add to that the spiraling costs, and we have a recipe for disaster.

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  1. Frankly FrankComment by Frankly Frank
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:03 pm

    Is this any surprise to an intellegent person? Will this be a surprise to someone who voted for Obama? Oh the reality will kick in and maybe, maybe they will kick themselves. Want free stuff? Let me know what it looks like under the bus. Under the bus? Yes because that is where Obama followers will be found when the stuff hits the fan. that’s where they will find the free stuff. Obama wins and you lose. Way to go America. I hope you enjoy the trip down into the abyss. You know where that is right? It’s a place lower than whale dung.

    “What’s amazing is that most Americans simply don’t understand what is going on.” Oh they will once prices shoot up and they can’t afford anything. HA! Who lost the election you ask? We the people of course. We are going to take it in the shorts big time.

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    • seekthetruthComment by seekthetruth
      November 15, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

      Let the Liberals boycott any business for making cutbacks in hours of their employees and laying off others. They voted for Obama, agree with his policies, so let them go on with their boycotts and see where it gets them! They will only feel the pain that Obama planned for them. Like you, I think JUST MAYBE they will realize what they voted for! We all know the Obama supporters only learn something when they feel some pain!

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    • westtexaslibraryladyComment by westtexaslibrarylady
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

      To any intelligent person the changes these businesses are making are not only reasonable and necessary in order to stay in business, they were also predicted.

      Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that the Obama followers who find themselves “under the bus” will actually understand why they’re there. They will place blame everywhere except on themselves and the people they put in office who are making these things happen. They won’t learn a single lesson from any of this and will simply play the blame game with louder voices.

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    • mysticComment by mystic
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:19 pm

      Great comments! A very clear view imo of what is real vs. what was trying to be achieved and went way over far reaching into its economical affect as well as it’s damaging fiscal impact upon the private market.

      Not having insurance is surely a common understanding of ‘not a good idea/bad choice not to have it’. With the price of private insurance, or even group insurance offered but not paid for by your work place…it takes food right outta the mouths of family’s.

      The best solution would have been big pharma reform and big insurance company reform and let the private market do what it does best… consumer driven prices and accessible care.

      ~M

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

      >> They won’t learn a single lesson from any of this and will simply play the blame game with louder voices. <<

      And we all know where that blame lies; with greedy corporations, and, of course, with Dubya, but that goes without saying.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:16 pm

      “The best solution would have been big pharma reform and big insurance company reform and let the private market do what it does best”

      Mystic, the word “reform” gets thrown around a lot these days. What do you mean by reform “big pharma” and “big insurance”? Since both of those ARE private market, how is “reform” going to allow the private market to do what it does best?

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    • pypypypyComment by pypypypy
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

      Did any of you hear that Gov Jindhal slamming Gov Romney for saying that BO won because he said BO won because he handed out gifts and freebies?

      I must say am shocked that Jinhdal would say what he said!

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    • mysticComment by mystic
      November 15, 2012 @ 5:19 pm

      For Bna42: You’re right…sorry, should have given my definition of ‘reform’ instead of assuming. Thank you for asking so I can answer it. : } This is gonna be kinda long…sorry in advance for the long read:

      Personal background: I’m a retired/disabled nurse (brown recluse bite…downed nervous system, chronic pain patient going on 17 years now.) Back in the day, it became very clear right outta nursing school who truly ‘ruled’ the roost within my chosen field. Big Pharma, Large Hospital Groups and Doctors. Each has their own tendril (if you will) that affects directly the cost of buying into private medical insurance/group medical insurance.

      Big Pharma: They research (read dollars) to create new meds. With their own agenda and tentacles in Washington vis a vie varying lobbying groups (Dow, Lilly et al) they have ‘controlled’ the medical venues within this nation. We can have all insurance we want at rock bottom prices, and gads and gaggles of doctors to service the population..but without the meds, these two groups are nothing. So big pharma is top of the food chain. The big dog if you will..and the government and big pharma really don’t want us to understand that they are the top of the food chain.

      Big Group Hospitals: Don’t be deluded by the ‘private or non profit hospital’ standard (in name only) There are four large groups and perhaps just under a dozen smaller groups, that run ALL the hospital medical care in these United States. Like Big Pharma, they too lobby and have their own profit driven agenda. So without implementation of the products Big Pharma is putting out there… they ensure to make their presence felt and power exerted. These two groups usually work hand in hand…kinda like the AFL/CIO and the SEIU…two different entities, two different agenda’s, but work seamless and similarly to one another. Nice duo huh? I call them the ‘pack dogs’ , as in ‘pack mentality’ as it is the only way they’ve found to survive and get a little in their own pockets on their own right.

      Last leg of this tripod is “Doctors”: God bless those who walk the gauntlet of 12 years (or more depending on specialty) and come out the other side ready to service their fellow man within the art of medicine…and make some decent money along the way. This group is the pack mule if you will…the doer..and with that backbone of our system…exert some fairly hefty slugs to the chest of the Big Pharma and Hospital Groups that they work within. Like Big Pharma and Group Hospitals, they have an agenda…to work their craft, and to operate as much as a small business while having someone else pay the overhead. (Gee, sound familiar?)

      So..with these three groups…their one bemoaned target is Insurance..(any hospital admin, doctor and pharma lobbyist will tell you all about the Evil Insurance company’s….hmmmm? really? ) who must look at all three entities of the tripod and calculate a bearable price to bring to market with the demands of each group AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT DICTATES, which directly affects their service to their customers, price of said service, and what they are able to provide to any given state/county…..while carving out a profit (substantial as it may be) while keeping those prices at a level the economy/consumer will bear. They too are in the business to make money…they are not subsidized by the government, they are not handed tax free exemptions…they are treated as the free business they actually are.

      So…Reform: This is actually very simple in my mind. Treat Hospitals, Doctors and Big Pharma the same way Insurance is currently treated under as private business’/free market principal. Take away the subsidies (not state paid med-i-caide services for the poor, elderly et al)…all the other freebies these big three enjoy) and allow the private market to work the way it’s intended.

      Currently we have medical advances and technologies that we’ve out priced ourselves with the current economy. Pharma research has hit incredible highs, with a populace that simply can’t afford to pay what big pharma is asking for said new tech. So many medical tech advances sit on shelves until such a time the populace at large can afford said new pill/vaccine/treatment; or; until it is subsided by another entity..namely, we the people vis a vie tax dollars.

      Harsh reality, but there it is. Hospitals can help the majority of our population…however due to the nature of some populaces, can’t afford to do so without hitting a hard wall of fiscal irresponsibility. (I know no one who works for free…do any of you? Especially within this field? )Lastly the doctors, who most now work under a hospital due to lawsuit insurance, are relegated to not doing what is best for any given unique scenario…they must instead treat as advised by any hospital board paying for said treatment at a lower reimbursement rate than if that hospital charged openly on cost and free market bearable prices.

      Instead, make all three entities of the tripod, along with those who wish to create insurance, place themselves squarely in the same free market as any other private, non governmental business. That is what I mean by reform (and the background and why I believe this is reform.)

      Whew… there… think I got it all. : }

      ~M.

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    • freelynComment by freelyn
      November 15, 2012 @ 10:26 pm

      It is probably illegal but I would say to make sure to fire/cut back the hours of the employees with Obama bumper stickers. After all, elections have consequences. If you are going to vote for politicians who are going to abuse power to take by force(steal) from the producers in this Country then why should the producers not make cuts to those who would force the Yoke of Slavery upon them.

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    • BadgerComment by Badger
      November 15, 2012 @ 10:39 pm

      bna42 “Mystic, the word “reform” gets thrown around a lot these days. What do you mean by reform “big pharma” and “big insurance”? Since both of those ARE private market, how is “reform” going to allow the private market to do what it does best?”

      When I was a kid our family doctor would come to the house at 10 PM for $40 … an office visit was $12 … my dad made $48.00 a week, was buying a house and could still afford to pay for medical care … then came Johnson, 1965 and Medicaid. Now uncle Sam gives the doctor $100 a visit so the house calls go the way of the dodo bird and $12 office visits are a thing of the past … and then there are the mandatory tests you are relegated to give and charge for … again, you can’t compete with a blank check so once the federal government got involved it distorted cost for everyone involved, and wait till O’Care takes full affect … what I believe he meant was free enterprise on the part of the Healthcare professionals who actually deliver the care … reform insurance to the point of catastrophic coverage and let the healthcare professionals compete for the generic services like colds and sex change operations … :-)

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    • mysticComment by mystic
      November 16, 2012 @ 1:17 pm

      For Badger: I understand what you’re asking, and will do the best I can to parce my original post down some as to the question of the word “reform” as it pertains to the health care big three.

      As I previously posted (it’s long I know) on these three entities that comprise the ‘big dogs’ within the medical health system; each one tied to the other by necessity, have built a system based on non profit/governmental subsidies and freebies; and yet demonize the private industry that is medical insurers. By treating all the entities involved within the health care system as Private Business, taking all subsidies (with the exception of state by state med-i-caid programs for the elderly, poor, disabled) off the table and enforce private market/free market principals to them. This en masse is reform at it’s most rudimentary level and it’s been in need of this reform for literally decades.

      The days of house calls verses office visits changed waaaaay back in the late 60′s. Don’t get me wrong, house visits sound great for a child with a sever fever or flu. However having been a medical professional, our tech now allows us to properly care for and treat on a standard not ever previously seen in our society. Those ‘tests’ everyone complains about…they are the diagnostic tools used by the medical profession to ensure it’s not something more hazardous…so y aren’t so useless you see.

      Money: Makes the world go round doesn’t it? My Grandparents bought their home in Redondo Beach for around 60,000.00. Upon their death 40 some odd years later and that same little home went up for sale…it brought in 1.6 million dollars. So yes, what used to cost in dollars to what we now have in buying power in dollars…is no where near the same dollars. But I digress…..

      We are not rural America anymore. We are not an agrarian society anymore. We are a plugged in, turned on, over stimulated with 24/7 living world real news type of society. We’ve become something our grandparents would have never recognized. We can not compare their experience and what was normal at their time to ours…its simply an apple to oranges comparison that will only convoluted where we are and where we are going verses where we should be and how we are gonna get there.

      Re-read that long long…long post of mine above..and you should find the whole of the explanation there.

      …and thanks for asking for further explanation of what I meant in the word ‘reform’. You are right in that word gets thrown around way to easily without definition of what they mean.

      ~M

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  2. Bob KnowsComment by Bob Knows
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

    Good for Denny’s. The Obamacare TAX should be identified rather than hidden so the voters know how much TAX they voted for and are paying every day. Its not “the rich” who pay. They need to learn that.

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    • wallybluComment by wallyblu
      November 15, 2012 @ 2:52 pm

      I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Instead of raising prices everytime the Government does something to raise costs charge a surcharge to let the customers know why they are paying more.

      And by the way welcome to the 30 hour work week.

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    • bulldogComment by bulldog
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

      Not 30 hours. It has to be less than 30, so it will probably be about 28 just to be sure nobody goes over 30.

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  3. bna42Comment by bna42
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:09 pm

    “This is NOT about health care… it’s about health insurance”.

    Those who had the ability to think and consider the socialized medicine proposal tried to make sure that the American people understood the fact that it is simply a way to put private insurers out of business so the federal government could become a single payer system.

    I don’t understand WHY people can not listen to Obama’s remarks and act accordingly. He said he wanted a single payer system. He said he wanted $5 per gallon gasoline as a means of conservation. He said he knew energy bills would skyrocket. He said he wanted to bankrupt the coal industry. He said private enterprise and the free market was “the enemy”. He said the wealthy need to pay their “fair share”. He said he knew increasing tax rates would not bring in more revenue, but it was simply a matter of “fairness”. He said he wanted to fundamentally transform America. Why aren’t people listening?

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    • DudleyComment by Dudley
      November 15, 2012 @ 2:45 pm

      You are correct sir. Problem is they were not listening. They were too busy watching American Idol, screaming for food stamps, “four more years”, and free phones.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:34 pm

      >> Why aren’t people listening? <<

      A list such as that would have made a good campaign ad. I wonder why the RNC didn't think of that.

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    • bulldogComment by bulldog
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:40 pm

      @ thedove

      The RNC is either stupid or in the tank. Any one of us could have put together great ads with Obama sound bites saying all of this, and asking is this truly what you want.

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    • arwenusaComment by arwenusa
      November 15, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

      They don’t WANT to listen, because they don’t want to hear anything that might make them actually THINK. Or might make them not happy with their choices. They remain intentionally ignorant, a form of dishonesty.

      How were we going to have things go any other way?

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      November 15, 2012 @ 9:52 pm

      bulldog – I swear next election cycle I will put together some sample advertising and make sure the powers that be get to see it. maybe if hundreds or thousands of like minded people made it their personal agenda to produce advertising for the right they might see what we the regular people think the rest need to know.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 16, 2012 @ 11:20 am

      Comment by crunchem
      November 15, 2012 @ 9:52 pm
      • bulldog – I swear next election cycle I will put together some sample advertising and make sure the powers that be get to see it. maybe if hundreds or thousands of like minded people made it their personal agenda to produce advertising for the right they might see what we the regular people think the rest need to know.
      Crunch ..

      If you are serious about this, I’ll be glad to help! Start collecting links and send them me yes. I’ll set up an e-mail address just for this: 8_YEARS_OF_BROKEN_PROMISES@(Email source) – I will open it once I see this is serious or just venting.

      Hey I’m serious. Anyone else wants to help, let’s do it. We may not get them on TV – but hey GOOGLE VIDEO and YOUTUBE are indeed powerful tools.

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  4. rick_kalifornicationComment by rick_kalifornication
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:24 pm

    It’s funny how the left likes to mock and ridicule Ayn Rands “Atlas Shrugged”, yet we are seeing more and more businesses going “Galt” faster and faster.

    The handwritings on the wall.

    We will see more and more businesses cutting back on employees hours as a means of falling under the 30 hour threshold and we will quickly become a nation of part-time employees. The very thing the libs ridiculed under Bush (burger flipper jobs).

    Expect Obama to take credit and make the unemployment numbers look small in the meantime.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

      I am curious because I have not heard. Since many businesses are cutting their employees hours; does this mean they will have to heir more employees with short hours to make up for the hours not worked. Then does this mean more people will have jobs and -0 can brag about employment has gone up?

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      November 15, 2012 @ 9:54 pm

      Allen – probably not since part time work doesn’t count in the figuring – or does it??? On the other hand, if business revenue continues to trail off, you don’t need more people anyway.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 16, 2012 @ 11:34 am

      Comment by Allen S
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:08 pm
      • I am curious because I have not heard. Since many businesses are cutting their employees hours; does this mean they will have to heir more employees with short hours to make up for the hours not worked. Then does this mean more people will have jobs and -0 can brag about employment has gone up?

      Allen, as “Polly Anna” as I see your post, are you just being snide?

      Seriously, do you realize how many PT Jobs people will have to work to “make ends meet”?

      They have to then juggle hours, especially if they have children and at some point, they go, “I cannot do this!” and in some cases I agree, you cannot burn the candle at both ends for too long, without having some health risks/issues.

      Then they will have to go on WELFARE and MEDICAID. Thus the people are left with “ONE MORE” to support.

      IF Obama would just LEAVE US ALONE and quit trying to be “FAIR”, as this is a FOOLS PATH. Because if you are being “Fair” to one group of people, than you are being “UN-fair” to another group and guess what???

      IT IS NOT THE RICH AND FAMOUS.

      It IS to what is left of the MIDDLE CLASS.

      See the RICH AND FAMOUS have tax people/lawyers working for them, helping them to avoid paying taxes and will continue to do so. Even if it means, like most of OBAMA’s staff – Breaking the Law and/or just not paying! Go look at how many of his staff are Tax Cheats. In other words, “Do as Obama and his staff say, NOT AS THEY DO.”

      The Rich are not going to pay any more than they have to. And what they will, it WILL be priced into their company/companies and the MIDDLE CLASSS will pay for these. Sorry to burst the “bubble” – but no matter how you ‘spin’ this – THE MIDDLE CLASS IS LEFT HOLDING THE BAG!

      So much for “FAIR”, huh????

      I WISH PEOPLE WOULD WAKE UP! . o O ( sigh )

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 16, 2012 @ 3:24 pm

      jib54:
      I don’t think Allen meant that the way you took it. We all know that most people need to have a full-time job to make it in this economy. And the answer to his question, is yes, a lot of companies are going to the way of Denny’s and Papa John’s and being forced to hire more part-time people so they can stay in business. And I have no doubt the government will include the part-time employment in the overall numbers to disguise how bad the problem is.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 16, 2012 @ 3:43 pm

      LAPhil -

      Okay, I re-read, and yes I see your point and well stated. Thanks for bring it to my attention. :)

      Allen, please accept my apology for the tone.

      I’m reading a number of blogs and such and it is just amazing to me how many people have little to no concept of Economics and such and the ignorance is getting the better of me and well – I APOLOGIZE for the tone and the wrong reading of your post. I need to take a break, the ignorance of some is starting to cloud my reading, obviously.

      I am going to go play COD-Black Ops to release some stress.

      TGIF!

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  5. kevin30144Comment by kevin30144
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:32 pm

    Have you ever wondered why you have not seen a complete summary of all the new taxes associated with Obamacare in addition to this post related to the new cost being inflicted on business? Maybe the media is still trying to understand the 2800 page bill. I know of 3.2% of sales, I think for Medical device Companies, not gross, but i don’t know the size. I also know about 3.8% on capital gains. I’d love to see a complete summary along with projected cost to the economy. I can’t bare to read the bill, like congress I guess. I wonder if 2800 pages of legal garble is by design?
    Welcome to Socialism and good-bye to any hope for a healthy economy for another 4 years.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:37 pm

      >> Have you ever wondered why you have not seen a complete summary of all the new taxes associated with Obamacare in addition to this post related to the new cost being inflicted on business? <<

      Another good campaign ad the RNC didn't think of. I wonder why Romney lost the election.

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    • BadgerComment by Badger
      November 15, 2012 @ 11:30 pm

      Unfortunately that would only work for those of us who already see through the smoke and mirrors … many of those who voted for O won’t really be affected by any of it because O’s stash pays for the taxes, fees and surcharges for them. They get cost of living increases too .. I always tell people if I give you $100 and you give me back $20, I’m not $20 ahead. I’m in the Red by $80 while you are $80 ahead. So, to get to the point … They are paying taxes to the government out of money that is being paid to them by the government … As long as they can maintain their lifestyles, taxes don’t mean anything to many of O’s supporters.

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  6. RobComment by Rob
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:32 pm

    “CONSIDERING”!? Only the ignorant moron Obama voters on the left don’t understand that at the end of the day, it’s the customer that pays. There’s no considering about it.

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    • NewsWatcherComment by NewsWatcher
      November 15, 2012 @ 5:16 pm

      It’s not just “the ignorant moron Obama voters” .. it is also the idiot moron Obama and his administration. They are the ones that tried to say the Catholic organizations didn’t have to pay for the “free” contraception bacause the insurance companies would cover it for them .. WHO in the @#$% does he thinks pays the insurance company (not to mention .. many are self-insured.)

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  7. LAPhilComment by LAPhil
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:36 pm

    Why doesn’t the House vote to defund Obamacare? The Republicans are in control, aren’t they?

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    • bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:20 pm

      The republicans have the majority of the House. Then their bills are sent to Harry Reid and go into the trash. So much for control. The trash is then ground up and made into paper that they print food stamps on. Also make receipt books for the Obomo phones that are free and welfare checks.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:22 pm

      But doesn’t the money have to be approved by the House?

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    • pypypypyComment by pypypypy
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:40 pm

      The best alternative I hear is to petition your Gov to nullify it

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:41 pm

      Bizzybuzzer, you’re right, but the House could send a budget to the Senate that does not include funding for something the Democrats want. All the Senate could do is amend the proposal and send it back to the House. However, that means taking it out of committee, and that means public discussion, and that’s not going to happen under Reid; it hasn’t happened with any budget proposals already sent to the Senate.

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  8. elderalComment by elderal
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

    Obamacare is yet another example (as if we needed it) of how government is totally incapable of doing anything right.

    How to patch a pothole (govt style): Three engineers with blueprints spread out on the hood of a truck, three guys in another truck enjoying the heat and air but doing nothing, one man on a grading machine (not moving), another on a pavement roller (not moving), one guy holding a “men working” sign (although no one really is), and ONE guy very slowly shoveling material into the hole. This is a crew of TEN to do the work of ONE. Any wonder why your taxes are so high but the “government work” still doesn’t get done??

    This how ALL government projects are done. “High performance” is 10% efficiency (90% inefficiency).

    This is why Obamacare will bankrupt the budget yet you will die waiting for healthcare.

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    • DudleyComment by Dudley
      November 15, 2012 @ 2:48 pm

      A prime example is the TSA.

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    • lwhunterComment by lwhunter
      November 15, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

      Good example. Case in point: Mustang Ranch! Government took it over for back taxes and drove it straight into bankruptcy. They can not even run a ***** house.
      And they are expected to Balance a budget, they can’t balance their own check books. If it was for their title in front of their name they could not qualify for a credit card. The percentage used to be 47% could not qualify on their own. That is not along party lines, that is just credit reports.

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  9. abe022Comment by abe022
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:49 pm

    I look forward to going to a business that has the courage to label the Obamacare tax on the receipt. What better way to make people see the cost of this invasion. That way we can get some of the 47% to pay some taxes.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      November 15, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

      abe022, you’re brilliant! What a terrific idea!

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  10. RME KRNLComment by RME KRNL
    November 15, 2012 @ 2:55 pm

    I ordered a Papa John’s pizza yesterday and, although I haven’t been to a Denny’s in years, I think I’ll stop by one this weekend. May stop by the nearby Chick-fil-A and get something to bring home on the way, too.

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  11. kpjlawComment by kpjlaw
    November 15, 2012 @ 3:08 pm

    People who understand business and economics know that these businesses need to do something to survive. The Obama voters have no clue. Future Chinese historians will mark the reelection of Obama as the end of the United States, although its demise could have been predicted much earlier.

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  12. bigjohn555Comment by bigjohn555
    November 15, 2012 @ 3:21 pm

    It will kick in to Obama voters as soon as they are told that a particular medical procedure or medicine is too expensive for their Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Sibling, Child, etc.
    It is at that moment that they will realize that a government big enough to give them everything is a government big enough to take everything away from them.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 16, 2012 @ 11:40 am

      As I have posted, this what they did NOT see?

      Why do they think they have the “Board” (Death Panel)??

      It is to “manage health care costs”. Again, must be Rocket Science for Obama supporters. They think, the government is just going to smile at BIG COST MEDICAL PROCEDURE?

      Really?

      If you said, “Yes!” I have a Bridge to Hawaii I’ll sell you and I’ll throw in the “REST STOPS” for “Free” …. :D

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  13. brierebearComment by brierebear
    November 15, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

    How many full-time employees does a Papa John’s store, especially if it’s only take-out, really have? Maybe the company should stop giving away 1 or 2 million pizzas (see NFL promotion with Peyton Manning). BTW, I’ve had Papa John’s once … tasted awful. How about helping the local economy by going to the local pizzeria or restaurant?

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  14. Grouchy OneComment by Grouchy One
    November 15, 2012 @ 3:52 pm

    Look! Everytime–EVERYtime– a business is forced to pay for something, be it a license, a payroll tax, health care for employees, a raise in the minumum wage, they are going to pass that cost along to the consumer. If the don’t, they can’t stay in business. Anyone who has ever owned a business and anyone who has even half an ounce of common sense has to know that.
    I, for one, applaud Denny’s if they are actually going to call this what it is. Everyone with any sense knew that when the stupid act was passed that it would hurt everyone but the fools who let it happen. i.e. obama and congress!

    There will be layoffs. There will be businesses closing. There will be further escalating prices of everything saleable. People will stop going out, people will stop buying anything extra and all of those business he strong armed into compliance will be out of business because not only will they not be able to pay their help, they won’t have any customers!

    Thank Mr. Obama for being the bull headed ******* who went at the health care reform from the wrong direction then railroaded it through with threats and coersion. I hope he’s proud that the negative effects hit the retail/restaurant industry so quickly.

    The insurers are the ones who are going to reap the benefits of his ignorance and the people he claims to be helping that were stupid enough to vote him in again are going to get screwed right along with the rest of us.

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    • leorumthugComment by leorumthug
      November 15, 2012 @ 11:44 pm

      You’ve hit the nail on the head. I am already planing on keeping my money and eating at home. I am not going to purchase anything that is not a necessity. And, as always, I refuse to contribute to liberal Hollywood by paying to see any of their movies. I plan to be “not-a-customer.”

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  15. jjb54Comment by jjb54
    November 15, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

    Then those, who are left with NO means to supply themselves with Private Insurance (Obama Voters in mass) will be left w/the TAX until they buy insurance, from Obamacare Insurance Company.

    Then they will SCREAM! Especially when/if they are HIGH RISK health concerns and they … well … and they will after a very short point – DENIED – To high a risk with no chance of return on Government $$$ ..

    This too, is also the writing on the wall. Obama voters did NOT engage Critical Thinking Skills. They only engage, the common addiction mentality – I NEED IT NOW – ….

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 15, 2012 @ 6:20 pm

      For those who voted for Obama & thus Obamacare.

      I wish you had thought things through, beyond “hear & now”.

      Let me explain:

      Yes, in your 20’s and early 30’s you likely do not have much to worry about, health wise. Ah, but once you hit the late 30’s, early 40’s – LIFE CHANGES! Trust me, I’m 58.

      I have some friends in Canada who are waiting for the following:

      Simple Meniscus Repair, to another a Partial Knee Replacement and another a Total Knee Replacement.

      Now I tore my meniscus in February of this year. Had it repaired in March, had to wait a couple of weeks, and yes it was painful and annoying.

      Was told by my doctor, that I was looking at a Partial Knee Replacement in about 5+/- years, getting older is not fun, sometimes. Well the knee decided to “go south” quicker then 5+/- years. Try 2 months! By May I had to have another MRI, because we were drawing out way to much fluid, to consistently over the months, since the Meniscus Repair. Well the knee broke down so badly that I had to have the Partial Knee Replacement done in May.

      Remember those friends in Canada? Well I found out about them in February and now it is the END OF MAY, and all three (3) of them are still waiting for their surgeries. <- Remember this.

      By July I had to go back into the Hospital, because since the Partial Knee Replacement, instead of the clear fluid, it was now BLOOD being pulled (aspirated) from knee. By the End of August we found out that I was allergic to the metal in the Partial Knee Replacement. So in September we had to pull out the Partial Knee and put in a Total Knee Replacement.

      February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November ….. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 months have now passed. Why is that important? Because those friends at the beginning of my post ARE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR SURGERIES!

      Now why are they waiting? Because 2 of them are over 55 years old and those who are younger have priority because they will return the money in taxes quicker than those over 55 years old. That is the reason the two were given. Oh, but you said, “Three (3).” Yes I did. The other is in his early 30’s and is a cancer survivor and is now considered a “RISK”, so he too is on the waiting list, because his is a risk as to IF he can pay it back or not. They think statistically he will ‘die’ sooner than later.

      This is what will happen to you as you get older, or if you get cancer. Doesn’t matter if you are a “fighter” or not as it will come down to statistical cost and recovery of their $$$$, also AIDS victims will be ‘made comfortable’ and will not be given the expensive treatments, because for just that reason – EXPENSIVE – thus you will be made “comfortable” until you die. (Sorry – I know some people, who work in medical hospitals that have already been told this reality. Doesn’t matter how young you are. If you are at a certain stage and/or risk factor you are S.O.L.

      Now for the “other shoe” of Obamacare to drop and please read this carefully and think about it, long and hard.

      I have a friend that works for Planned Parent Hood. (The below is NOT public knowledge and NO I will not give out her name, because the person and their fellow employees, well fear for their jobs. This was told to them, in “BE PREPARED”, but will not be made “public”, until AFTER THE FACT. Abortions cost a lot of $$$. They are not even remotely CHEAP. The first one will be covered by Obamacare, for those who go to Planned Parenthood. The 2 nd one will come at a “cost”: You will have to ‘agree’ to ‘voluntary’ sterilization. You will not be able to get the abortion, the 2nd one, unless you agree to the “voluntary” sterilization.

      See? Youth do not think past, “NOW”.

      How are you going to feel about your parents and grandparents, when they are refused certain care and such, because they are not seen as ‘viable’ to pay back the government for the care they get. Therefore, YOU get to see them suffer and die, likely a lot sooner than they should have.

      Oh, you say, “NOT TRUE!”. Want proof? Go ask your doctor, or print out this post and ask him, “True? False?” Because the above has come from Doctor’s that I work for and their lawyers are already going through the law.

      Finally, when you lower what doctor’s make, there will not be a demand for them. Here is a NEWS FLASH – People go to work for one reason: TO MAKE MONEY. You make it so the job doesn’t pay, they are not going to ‘go there’. “Rocket Science” for some, I know.

      I wish people would engage their brains to see the big picture, the LONG TERM picture of cause/effect and CONSEQUENCES. Not just the “QUICK FIX”.

      Plus and I close with this – There is no such thing as “FREE”. Someone pays for that. When you run out of people to pay for your free – the free ride ends and then the WITHDRAWL begins.

      Just look at GREECE.

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  16. ChewyBeesComment by ChewyBees
    November 15, 2012 @ 5:03 pm

    Denny’s taking action! Talk about hitting the Obama supporters where it hurts. Now all we need is KFC, Popeye’s, Burger King and Long John Silvers to get in on it and the racist constituency will be gnashing their teeth.

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  17. rcc711Comment by rcc711
    November 15, 2012 @ 7:24 pm

    I’m happy to pay 5% extra at Denny’s if I can stop paying for their uninsured employees in my insurance premiums when they show up at the hospital ER and then don’t pay their bill.

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  18. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    November 15, 2012 @ 7:25 pm

    You just can’t make a purse out of a sow’s ear. This so-called president is hard to describe. I don’t even care to describe him. How do you explain a liar and someone blessed with the art of good impressions made up of pure BS ? And we have sat him in the nations white house and even worse.twice!
    Over half of the voters believe he is actually for real and will see to it that they will be secure with him in office. Oh Dear God, we pray for your guidance in the name of Jesus.

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  19. redpatriotComment by redpatriot
    November 16, 2012 @ 3:05 am

    Unfortunately, every time restaurants raise their prices, another segment of consumers stops patronizing that establishment or limits the amount they spend there, to stay within their budget. So Denny’s may find they have shot themselves in the foot. No consumer wants to pay for Obamacare on their tab. Either companies need to suck up the cost, or lay employees off or cut their hours, whatever it takes. Don’t stiff the consumer, they will walk. As they say elections have consequences, and employees are about to find that out. Sadly, the 49% that voted for Romney will suffer the consequences along with the 51% of fools who voted for their “free stuff prez” Obama. Hang on to your bootstraps…it is going to be a wild ride to the bottom.

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  20. uscitizenComment by uscitizen
    November 16, 2012 @ 10:34 am

    Hey obama, how’s the job situation working out for you? Oh, its doing better! B.S.! , wait til next year when all these companies start laying off MORE workers because of your healthcare plan. But then I guess thats part of your plan for re-distributing the wealth.

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  21. gileyComment by giley
    November 16, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

    Those unions that supported Obama are about the face reality. You cannot kill the goose that laid the golden egg and that exactly what is happening now with Obamacare mandates kicking in. Unions can picket all that they want but when the company spends more that it can take in, it’s all over i.e. Dennys’, Papa John and other restaurants are about to get hit. Las Vegas has a very large Culanary union and costumers can only absorb so much of the added cost to meals to pay for those very expensive mandates that are passed on by managers.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 16, 2012 @ 3:01 pm

      Giley -

      This they, the *UNIONS*, do not get.

      The Cost of Doing Business to stay competitive in their market.

      Last year 2011, I had 7 clients, all UNION, all but one, close their doors for GOOD.

      Why?

      The UNIONS priced them out of the market. They could no longer stay competitive. So “Fair Wages” now have become UNEMPLOYEMENT WAGES and some have used that up and are BROKE! Nice job UNIONS! Nice Job!

      The one simply did what they could – They told their employees, either DUMP the UNION or I close my doors and start again as a NON-UNION shop.

      They did not, dump their union and he did. He closed the doors, re-started his business as a NON-UNION and is doing just fine. In fact a lot of his “UNION” prior employees came back to work for him, some did not and are still UN-EMPLOYEED. Wages are fair, benefits are fair and the company is doing fine now.

      There is “Fair Wages” and there is a point where fair is GREEDY and people will be OUT OF WORK, when the COST OF BUSINESS is to the point they lose their competitive edge. Lose the edge and you have to lose the ‘cause/effect’ – UNIONS, in this case or the higher cost of OBAMACARE.

      I wish these people, union members would take classes in ECONOMICS, I know it would be an eye-opener.

      CASE IN POINT:

      I actually advised one client to do just that. Send all his Employees to take an on-liine Econ Class. He did, and his employees became WISE and saw – Market – Costs – Prices and such and realized they needed TO HELP THEIR EMPLOYER stay competitive. They even started to brain storm on how to be more cost effective in production and such.

      Guess what?

      That company is still thriving. But the Employees have also become “Share Holders” in the company and now realize, when the company makes $$$, they do. When it loses, they do.

      It was funny how when a UNION REP came in to talk about the company becoming a UNION SHOP – They, the employees kicked him out the door, especially when they saw, “The Promises of a better life.”

      One of them actually told the rep: “What? You will price our company out of the market and some of us will be out of a job. You are not good for this company!”

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  22. stickmanComment by stickman
    November 17, 2012 @ 3:05 pm

    You talk like you didn’t know this was the way it worked. Of course there is going to be a “trickle down” ObamaCare charge. How else did you think it was going to be paid for? Just like raising the taxes on the Rich – that’s going to be trickle down – actually it will be rush out and HIDE your money. People that make money, that know how to make money, go where they can make money – they don’t hang around to watch someone else take it from them. Watch as California loses MORE jobs and NY and NJ are going to LOSE more jobs – those people with the money that create businesses that hire people. Those that have it are going to “hide it” off shore. There will be more manufacturing going to China and Mexico. and YOU are going to PAY more to buy those jobs and that stuff back, because the people that sell it are being taxed on it and YOU are going to pay that tax – not the sellers.

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  23. brightlightComment by brightlight
    November 20, 2012 @ 9:03 am

    Metz is greedy.Not only is he not going to pay for healthcare but to reinforce his position is also cutting back employuee hours. He feels bad abot it however.
    I wonder why he won’t be paying more per hour ,per employee whose hours have been cut ,just to be fair to those who will stay.He won’t do that.His reply is for them to get another job.
    So, he runs a business whose front end help relies on tips on top of a $3/hour wage rate,is cutting their hours back saving him perhaps $30 a week per empl and eliminating the bulk of the front end workers pay check(tips).By now hiring additional part-timers he puts them through the same routine and they make no money either.
    This is a huge cost cutter for Metz without Obama care,using it as an excuse to enhance his own profits. I am not a proponent of Obama Care but in the restaurant business there may be a need to overhaul the whole compensation issue having them pay a fair wage to front staff and if they can’t do that then get out of the business.
    The public should not be picking up the tab for health care when he is basically not paying his help to begin with The customer is.

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    • jjb54Comment by jjb54
      November 20, 2012 @ 10:33 am

      No less or more “greedy” than you are, Mr. Brightlight.

      Me thinks, you are not such a “Brightlight”. . o O ( sigh )

      It has NOTHING to do with “Greed” any more or less than you are ‘greedy’. Ya, they are just as “Greedy” as you are. So remember, when you point one finger at another, you are pointing 3 fingers at yourself.

      It has to do with economics and costs. Plus, I don’t know where you get $3.00 an hour. Sorry, there are no restaurants that pay $3.00/hr. So that right there proves you know nothing about the industry. . o O ( sigh .. you really are not a ‘brightlight’, when you start spouting numbers that are seriously INCORRECT!) See I have friends/family and clients in this industry. Not one of them pays $3.00 an hour. So your whole argument just fell into the ‘trash bin’. I could find not one DENNY’s that pays only $3.00/hr. as most states have a $7.00+hr min. wage. (oops)

      (Nice job.)

      I found some “hole in the wall” no name ones… But they do not fit under the Obamacare law.

      See, Denny’s has to keep their menus priced so customers will come in and EAT, Mr. “Brightlight.” They have a focus group of who they know will come into eat. The average “joe” who is looking for a ‘good menu deal’ at a low cost.

      The market only supports so much per hour for those jobs. Even the HIGH END EATERIES, only pay so much. The $$$ in this for the Employees is in the TIPS and they fully understand that.

      Wow, you are really not a ‘brightlight’ are you?

      See, I have family/friends/clients that work in this industry, so I guess I have an edge that you do not. See, if they RAISE the salaries in this industry for the waiters and such, guess what goes down? This has also been prove, when the customer is aware that the waiter/waitress makes a ‘good income’ – as subjective as that might be … THE TIPS GO DOWN OR ARE ZERO. The waiter/waitresses do NOT like this! (Well the good ones.)

      TIPS.

      The good waiters/waitresses make very very good $$$ in tips

      IF you are good at your job, you can make Minimum+ wages, which you get and then you can double it easily per hour. IF you are really good, it is even better! I’ve seen good waiters/waitresses make up to $20.00 hour and some even, when they get the richer clients, and IT DOES HAPPEN, can make a couple of $100.00’s an hour. (Even in the lower end Eateries.)

      BUT YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD AT YOUR JOB, Mr. “Brightlight” … . o O ( sigh )

      See, again I stress, the TIP FACTOR has been proven. When you raise your waiters/waitresses salaries, the cost is BIG NEWS. It is not a ‘secret’ and then customers go, “Oh, wait, they make $$$ per hour, so I do not need to be as nice with the tips, if at all.” The waiters/waitresses, again do NOT like this. They like the BIGGER TIPS and the OFTEN Tips.

      Again the above has been proven to be true. So most waiters/waitresses are happy to keep the wages down and for very good economic reasons, as they do BETTER. Now understand the lousy ones do complain and well, they will not last long in the industry and for good reason.

      So, Mr “Bightlight” – has this sunk in yet? Has the “light” become “bright” yet?

      So it’s NOT about “greed”, Mr. “Brightlight” and your so call ‘solution’ would HURT the employees big time, $$$ wise.

      Plus remember, owners of companies are no more or less greedy then YOU ARE! So kind of takes the winds out of your sails, doesn’t it??

      FINALLY – GO TAKE A DANG ECONOMY CLASS. (If you did, which I doubt, then you must have slept through it. So, on the per-chance you did, take some NO-DOZE and coffee and stay awake, pay close attention on how Businesses need to run to stay – COMPETITIVE.

      Then and this is a maybe, you might just become a “Brightlight” … maybe.

      . o O ( sigh )

      Oh and “Brightlight” – what is the difference between the “customer not paying for healthcare costs in Denny’s” and the “tax payers”. How is it okay for the Taxpayers to pay for Obamacare?? I’m going to love to see the ‘Brightlight’ “logic” in this one!

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  24. Jota_Comment by Jota_
    November 20, 2012 @ 3:19 pm

    If every employer drops back to 30 hours it will cause 0% unemployment

    Here is the math

    110 million in the labor force and 24 million unemployed (but only 13 million are being counted)

    Assuming a 40 hour work week equals 4,400,000,000 (4.4 billion) hours total

    Cut back to 30 equals 3,300,000,000 (3.3 billion) hours total

    Which leaves 1,100,000,000 (1.1. billion) hours more demand than are filled

    Divided 24 million unemployed in to 1.1. billion hours = 45.83 hours per unemployed but since they cannot work more than 30 hours this means there is more than enough work for 12 million illegal aliens

    And here I believed Obama was only interested in handing out contraceptives to little girls

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      November 20, 2012 @ 3:29 pm

      Opps!

      I forgot to mention but NO ONE wil have healthcare!

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