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Atheist Complaint Means Big Business for Restaurant

By Bobby Eberle

Last month, I wrote about the Lost Cajun Kitchen, a small, mom-and-pop restaurant located in Pennsylvania. The restaurant made news, because it offered a discount on Sundays to anyone bringing in a church bulletin, and a particular atheist decided to sue them over it. Little did the restaurant owners know just how good that action would be for business!

As I noted in my July 6 posting, "John Wolff, who is an atheist, filed the complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission against Prudhomme's Lost Cajun Kitchen in Columbia." Here's more from the York Daily Record:

Wolff said the practice discriminates against him because he does not attend church.

"I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particularly in Lancaster County," said Wolff, a retired electrical engineer.

Sharon Prudhomme, one of the co-owners of the restaurant, said she is not discriminating because diners don't have to actually attend a church or synagogue service to get a bulletin. She said area religious leaders told her that anyone can walk in a religious building and obtain a bulletin, without attending services.

Prudhomme added that she has no intention of changing the discount program, which she created to bring more traffic into her restaurant on a traditionally slow day.

So what happened next? Just like with Chick-fil-A, the attention has resulted in big business for the restaurant. As reported in The Christian Post, "Owner Sharon Prudhomme explained that business has been up and support has poured in from all over the country and even the world."

"It has definitely picked up," said Prudhomme to the York Daily Record, adding that "everybody that comes in [offers] a lot of handshakes, hugs. Everybody is offering a lot of support."

Here's what John Wolff had to say in his own words:

So... the man says he has no animosity toward the owners of the restaurant, yet contacts an organization in order to take legal action against it? Come on! No one is being discriminated against and no one is showing intolerance in this situation except for Wolff.

The local newspaper hit the nail on the head with their op-ed about Wolff by writing, "It seems, like so many atheist complaints are designed more to draw attention to oneself than to right a serious constitutional wrong."

So church folks can come on a Sunday and get a 10 percent discount on their mess of crawfish if they hand over a church bulletin. Big deal.

Restaurants offer all sorts of discounts based on debatable criteria - to senior citizens, to youth sports teams, to people who buy the newspaper and clip out the coupons.

Wolff and the Freedom from Religion Foundation should find something better to do with their time. It seems the more attention they draw to blasting organizations that have Christian principles, the more it helps the organizations. Hmmm... maybe they should keep it up! Chick-fil-A and the Lost Cajun Kitchen seem to be doing just fine.

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  1. inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
    August 9, 2012 @ 8:18 am

    Listening to the ramblings of this confused secular soul, you begin to realize just how fast the quality of one’s life deteriorates when the triple threat Providential design of body, mind and spirit that was created in the essence of life called man, chooses to operate only in two of the three dimensions of only body and mind, sans spirit. Just pity the fool, then pity America, for having lost the heat and the passion of the spirit of that eternal flame from which each soul is lit.

    If you follow his logic then granting a senior citizen a restaurant discount discriminates against young people and should be denied. Better America starts discriminating against fools no matter what the age.

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    • CarmineComment by Carmine
      August 9, 2012 @ 11:29 am

      Look at the puss on that guy. Why do all these people look like they were just shot out of a cannon?

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    • Blu OwenComment by Blu Owen
      August 9, 2012 @ 12:07 pm

      FREEDOM FROM A RIGHT
      The rights conveyed under the Constitution gives everyone the freedom to choose whether they wish to take advantage of such rights. This is a person’s individual right to choose. The concept of freedom contains at least two elements:
      The right of choice, the choice of and the choice of not. In the case of religion this would be the freedom of religion and the freedom from religion. The right to be religious and the right to totally reject religion. Those who say they should have a freedom from a right already have that under our Constitution simply by not taking advantage of such a right.
      When a person states that they have a freedom from a right, something that they already possess, and legally states that they should have an additional right of preventing others from exercising such a right, freedom suffers.
      “Rights” only apply to a persons right to choose, not to the human senses: vision, hearing, smell, taste, and touch. When someone claims they have a right not to see a cross on something they directly infringe on another’s right to see it.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      August 9, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

      Well said, Blu Owen. I personally believe that the atheist who complain. Have a deep seeded doubts that they are right and there is a God. This an attempt on their part to gain security in their belief.

      I do know several Atheist. None of them are bothered by religious symbols in public. They do believe wasting their time over what they see as fiction.

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • Lech DharmaComment by Lech Dharma
      August 9, 2012 @ 5:15 pm

      Precisely, inluminatuo. If a restaurant wants to give a 10% discount on Thursdays to anyone who comes-in wearing a purple shirt, aren’t they “discriminating” against people who don’t HAVE a purple shirt in their wardrobe? How about restaurants that offer a “kids eat free” day? Aren’t they “discriminating” against adults in general, and people without “kids”?

      When a Las Vegas resort or even a restaurant “comps” someone’s meal, or dessert, or hotel room, are they not discriminating against everyone that they do NOT do that for?

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    • WarpfieldComment by Warpfield
      August 9, 2012 @ 5:31 pm

      One could see atheism as just another religion. The act of believing in something could be equally as strong as not believing in something. I read a few weeks ago about a group of atheists going to some road where some Christians had performed a ceremony, anointing with oil, etc. The atheists had actually brought soap, and scrub brushes to wash away the oil. If that isn’t religion, what is?

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    • MorganComment by Morgan
      August 10, 2012 @ 2:22 pm

      Here is a message to this man

      Psalm 9:17
      The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

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    • seektruthComment by seektruth
      August 11, 2012 @ 1:26 pm

      I know this is irrelevant but it appears to me that Mr. Wolff is a very bitter old fuddy-duddy and probably is very lonely.
      Quite sad that even some of our older generation feel that they are “owed” something from others. In his case a discount that others are given by complying to the requirements for getting one.
      His fight is not with the restaurant owners but with the “right wing” establish that are taking away “his rights”? I wonder if he truly understands what he’s saying? In this case his right to get a discount without having to comply with the criteia for getting one?
      Gee, Mr. Wolff, then we better stop this “right wing conspiracy” from taking over the free-commerce of Americans, nation wide. and we better extend this to EVERY discount offered anywhere in America by people presenting some sort of coupon or card to receive that discount. For they ALL are discriminating against all those people who do NOT have the card or coupon.
      Gee! I have an aversion to clipping coupons from the morning rag, BUT I DEMAND MY DISCOUNT ANYWAY!
      Poor old guy. He’s probably going to be admitted to a care facilty soon and will seldom get any visitors and be remembered as an old grouch who hated everyone.

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  2. smericleComment by smericle
    August 9, 2012 @ 8:43 am

    As an atheist, I’m saddened to see the escalation of the issue into the news. It’s issues like this and the recent Chic-fil-a mess being paraded on high that is deepening the divide in America. Instead of focusing on the 90+% of commonality between various groups in America, we allow the media to focus our attention on 5% differences between us and generate anger and hate.

    Much like the chic-fil-a mess, this does not represent the majority of atheists; just as Jeremiah Wright does not represent the views of all Christians.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      August 9, 2012 @ 8:58 am

      Of you dropped your banana and it falls on a dog turd contaminating it only 10% while the other 90% remains clean and common to all, would you still eat it? For the Liberal the answer apparently is Yes. This is what you get to ingest when you embrace the Liberal Gay Democrat agenda. “Bon Appetite”

      This IS a free nation and you can eat whatever you wish, just don’t expect me to pay for your foolishness in higher taxes and higher medical bills which is what Obamacare is really all about. You get to eat and play where the sun does not shine, and we the American taxpayer get to pay for the flood of your poor life choices in the financial rain that always follows poor life choices of contaminated food, ideology and play. With great freedom is supposed to come great responsibility which you liberals flee from as fast as you can with both feet. It is not your love which covers a multitude of your sins, but the power of other people’s money.

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      August 9, 2012 @ 9:11 am

      And who are the ones escalating these issues into the news? It is the very people (gays and atheists) that should be keeping their mouths shut if they dont want to paraded on high! The vast majority of the people living in this country do believe in God in one way or another and are herterosexual. The gays and the atheists are the minorities in these cases but for some reason they feel the need to be put on a pedestal of some sort. That the rest of the population should have to recognize that they are there. I am not a homophobe and I particularly dont care if you believe in a God or not. Just dont tell me and the rest of us that we must recognize all of you. Live your life the way you want to and believe what you want as long as you are not hurting the person next to you! You are nobody special that needs special recognition or attention!

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    • philbeauxComment by philbeaux
      August 9, 2012 @ 9:55 am

      No smericle, we are not creating division. The division was started when those on the left began to attack traditional family values. Now that they have willing allies in the mainstream media, activist judges and self-seeking bureaucrats, they somehow feel that they own a morale superiority when it comes to social issues.
      What has happened is the majority of this country (ie- the ones that still believe in God and “That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”) are sick and tired of the minority left dictating to us how we are suppose to live and think. We’ve had enough of being made to feel that we are somehow wrong in our religious beliefs.
      For the life of me, I just can’t understand how people who are so adamant about their freedom of speech and tolerance toward their beliefs and way of life can be so intolerant of others and quick to censor the speech of others that don’t agree with them.
      No. We didn’t cause the division. We’re just tired of being blamed for it.

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      August 9, 2012 @ 10:02 am

      And again I forgot say that this wanting to be paraded on high is all part of the left wing agenda to change this country into a socialist, marxist society where god will be banned outright within time. That is why the news media plasters these poor lost souls on the front pages of newspapers and the spotlight on the evening news! These communists are on the march now and believe they have a shot at 4 more years to transform this nation into a satellite of European socialism!

      We must do all in our power to save our nation!

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      August 9, 2012 @ 12:04 pm

      “As an atheist, I’m saddened to see the escalation of the issue into the news. It’s issues like this and the recent Chic-fil-a mess being paraded on high that is deepening the divide in America.”

      But you do realize that the atheist is the one “escalating this issue into the news”, just as the homosexual is “escalating their issue into the news”.

      Why do you think the “5%” should continue to try to force their opinions on the vast majority? If you want to be an atheist, that’s between you and the creator, but you should not have the right to try to use the courts to attack a business owner over something as petty as a discount. Have you ever considered that it is the atheist and the homosexual who are “deepening the divide in America”? Why can’t they live and let live? They demand “tolerance” while they are the most intolerant people on the planet.

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    • 3up3downusmc85Comment by 3up3downusmc85
      August 9, 2012 @ 3:31 pm

      Unfortunately for these atheists, God only offers salvation and eternal life to those who BELIEVE. Imagine the cries of discrimination when it comes time for admission to THAT club.

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  3. onewildmanComment by onewildman
    August 9, 2012 @ 8:45 am

    It seems to me that all those who point the finger and say they are against the self righteousness of Christians. This old man is the one who is self righteous. He is the one with the problem of thinking he is better than others especially Christians.

    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! ! !

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  4. nancyjComment by nancyj
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:09 am

    What struck me most, was the man’s face. He certainly looks unhappy. How could he look any other way?
    Everyone should pray for him to see the light. He is getting close to the time when he will wish he had opened his heart.

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  5. jazznut50Comment by jazznut50
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:10 am

    I am much more concerned with the kind of food served at these restaurants, as opposed to their “politics”. Are you ONLY going to eat at restaurants whose owners follow “your” ideals?

    Chick-Fil-A’s food is factory-farmed, MSG and chemically laden. I wouldn’t eat there for that reason. If you are a Christian and concerned about following the dictates of that ideal, you should be concerned about what you are putting into “God’s temple”. Chick-Fil-A would not “pass muster” on that one.

    I assume that the Mom and Pop restaurant probably does, and I would eat there for that reason.

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    • mguy04Comment by mguy04
      August 9, 2012 @ 9:31 am

      jazznut50 – why do you think the mon-n-pop place has any better ingredients than Chik-fil-a?

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    • jayleighComment by jayleigh
      August 9, 2012 @ 9:46 am

      No, Christians don’t patronize only “Christian” businesses! But what happened here is an example of how the everyday American views the U.S.Constitution! It was about the right of a CEO of any corporation to be able to voice his/her views without having some idiot on a city council say that those views have now lost that biz the right to have a permit to build in that city! That’s what it was about. i doubt that 100% of the people who showed up at the Chic-Fil-A locations were Christian, but ALL believe in the Constitutional right of freedom of speech.

      You have the right to choose where you eat. So, don’t patronize any fast food place if you are so concerned about how the food is prepared. Your boycott won’t hurt CFA, MickeyD’s or any other FF restaurant. Your rant was self-serving and missed the point totally.

      The Chic-Fil-A situation was a First Amendment issue, NOT a Christian issue. It just happened that it was a point of view by a Christian business owner that came under such vile attacks by the liberal left. It had nothing to do with Christians supporting only Christian businesses. You need to pay attention to the issue and stop worrying about whether Chic-Fil-A puts MSG in their seasonings.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      August 9, 2012 @ 10:25 am

      Jazznut50, Where do you get your information? MSG is not used in Chick-Fil-A. You must be thinking of Campbell’s soup. The other thing is what chemicals are you talking about. You know slandering a product, company or person, can land you in court.

      By the way. I have informed Chick-fil-A of your comment.

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      August 9, 2012 @ 12:33 pm

      Jazznut50, This is not a case of Chick-Fil-A food which you mistakenly say does not “Pass the Muster” it is a case of you, another misguided Liberal who seeks to “Puss the Master” who inspires the Christian leaders of profitable Chick-fil-A.

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  6. AMVoterComment by AMVoter
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:13 am

    Such a pathetic old man.

    Where I live there’s a restaurant which offers a discount to anyone ordering in Spanish.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      August 9, 2012 @ 1:29 pm

      That is one restaurant I would never visit. They have the right to offer that discount, but I have the right in an English-speaking country to communicate in English. If I was eating in a Spanish-speaking country I would expect to communicate in Spanish.

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  7. Comment by NealGraham
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:28 am

    EVERY time I hear “tolerance” coming from a liberal or an athiest or similar person / group, I see exactly what it is – INTOLERANCE on their part! This guy is INTOLERANT of ANYONE practicing their religion, otherwise it would not bother him so much that those who “bring in a Bulletin”! As the article says, you do NOT have to attend church to obtain a bulletin. If you are dead set on getting the discount, you can just go get a bulletin at a church & then just leave. It is always the INTOLERANT that scream the loudest about tolerance.

    Tolerance is liberal speak for: You don’t agree with me, and I’m going to beat you over the head with MY BELIEFS until you break and give in and ultimately agree with me. They are INTOLERANT of ANY beliefs that are not 100% in alignment with their ‘beliefs’. The TRULY tolerant people are in fact conservatives, Christians, etc., because they are willing to live and let live. To put it another way, while they STRONGLY disagree with the homosexual lifestyle – they are okay with those people living their lives how they choose, AS LONG as their chosen lifestyle is not SHOVED down the conservatives / Christians / etc throats!

    The radical homosexual lobby is going out of its way to try to FORCE their beliefs upon EVERYONE, through legislation in congress. If you don’t know about these bills in Congress, PLEASE go and read up on them. There are also il-liberal backed treaties in Congress that would DECIMATE the USA if enacted, such as the LOST treaty (Law of the Sea) which would make the UN (Utter Nincompoops) in charge of our waterways a certain distance from shore. The list of treaties and bills in congress that would RADICALLY restrict the RIGHTS of US Citizens, is long. PLEASE go and read up on it online! Our nation’s SOUL is at stake!

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  8. Mort_fComment by Mort_f
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:42 am

    Needed to go a step further. Ban ALL discounts, ban ALL rebates, ban ALL marketing gimmicks. No more senior discounts at the movies or museums, no more Ladies day at ballparks or bars, no more coupons in newspapers or mailed to residents, etc., etc. For every one of those discounts and rebates are aimed at specific classes of people. His complaint is a classic illustration that we have far too many lawyers, and we need to create work for them.

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    • jayleighComment by jayleigh
      August 9, 2012 @ 9:52 am

      Yeah, and i assume your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek. That’s what makes his complaint such a non-issue. Thanks for the laugh. You make an excellent point. My Vet gives coupons and discounts for various things – sometimes it’s for “small dogs” nail clips half price. i have a large dog, so maybe the month he offers that service, i should sue him because he discriminates against my large dog. HUH?

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      August 9, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

      Next he will want to remove special handicapped parking privileges because he thinks it descriminates against he who mistakenly thinks he is not handicapped, but Liberally handicapped.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      August 10, 2012 @ 10:48 am

      inluminatuo, You know all liberals are mentally handicapped. Excuse me. I meant to say mentally challenged. I don’t want to offend. LOL.

      we had one of those types here. A few years ago on Mothers Day at the Angels stadium. This clown sued because they would give him the free item for mothers.

      He then filed a class action law suite against Angles. You can read about it here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2440983 That is if you are interested.

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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  9. genesalComment by genesal
    August 9, 2012 @ 9:56 am

    The guy doesn’t have any point at all. Freedom from religion even turned him down. Freedom from religion in private enterprise is, frankly, none of his unGodly business. His complaint is a non Complaint, the Constitution doesn’t cover his alleged grievance. He should change his attitude quickly or go to a ‘nonexistent’ Hell.

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  10. thedoveComment by thedove
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:05 am

    “Wolff and the Freedom from Religion Foundation should find something better to do with their time.”

    They don’t have anything better to do with their time, that’s why they spend so much of it fishing for issues they can use to add some excitement to their otherwise very dull lives. “Hey, looka me, I made the news. Ain’t I somethin’?”

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  11. roscoebonifitucciComment by Roscoe Bonifitucci
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:20 am

    Atheist, like the Leftist Pond Scum they come from, are Shrill, Small Minded, Mean Spirited and even Demonic Proxies. They attack America’s Patriotic, Morality and Spiritual Life. Think of them as agents of Joseph Stalin. A destroyed America is on their agenda. Just the Truth folks.

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    • thedoveComment by thedove
      August 9, 2012 @ 10:28 am

      The problem with generalizations is they are so often wrong. I don’t think all atheists fit your description any more than the description of Christians by SOME as gun-toting fanatics fits all Christians. Pick a group, any group, and you’ll find a mix of tolerance and prejudice, both in varying degrees, within its membership. The idea that everyone who doesn’t believe in a god wants to see the USA destroyed would be laughable if it weren’t so serious.

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  12. bmpazComment by bmpaz
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:23 am

    What a whiner. You don’t HAVE to go the restaurant if you don’t want to. You DON’T have a right to dictate to a business what they can offer discounts for or not and essentially dictate that they MUST believe what you do. Plenty of people that don’t agree with Starbuck’s CEO personal beliefs still buy its coffee. It seems like atheists and the left are the intolerant ones. Get over it.

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    • CarmineComment by Carmine
      August 9, 2012 @ 11:36 am

      I don’t buy Starbucks coffee. Not only is it over priced, but in my opinion it’s crummy coffee. Thomas Hammer is a lot better. Aren’t I supposed to be allowed to make these decisions without being bothered or coersed by others?

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  13. toologicalComment by toological
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:38 am

    I believe these athiests and gays are so self conscious of their twisted beliefs that they make up their own version of everybody else. First of all there is no real self righteous Christian. All humans are unrighteous but by Jesus they can be cleansed of their sin. So no one can be “self righteous.” And everyone is offered this same saving grace. Grow up to you dissenters and leave the Christians out of your twisted world. We don’t condemn you, we just don’t want your values pushed upon us. The Lord tells us to leave you alone and if it is your choice to go to hell so be it.

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  14. mrblint888Comment by mrblint888
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:57 am

    I believe a Divine Creator made the Universe, or that God IS the Universe. I also believe we are unable to know what God is thinking or what God will do. We might hope and pray that “God rewards the righteous and punishes the wicked” or that God will shed grace upon men of good will and they will prosper. But we should never act as though we know what God will do or never think that God owes us anything or that God is on Our side. Which pee-wee soccer team is God rooting for today? The one your child is playing on, of course. You might want to believe that Scripture is “God’s word”. I say, I really have my doubts about that. For certain, it was the work of human beings telling stories and suffered through several translations, sometimes by committee, who were translating a translation. What many people like me are concerned about is the impossible certitude of people who think they can speak for God, and know what God wants us to do, and the impossible certitude of people who say Goes does not exist! Now, I don’t want my life to be guided by someone else’s belief that Scripture is the Word of God, or by someone else’s belief that God does not exist for that matter. The best we can hope for in secular society, in a representative democracy, is that men and women be of good will and treat each other as they would like to be treated. The golden rule. So, atheists, please pipe down. Theists, pipe down. Live your own lives and stop trying to impose your views on each other, and on this country. Religious freedom also means that other people have the right to be free from your religious views. And everyone should stop confusing belief and faith with science. The theists think their beliefs are good science. The atheists think their beliefs are good science. You’re both wrong.

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    • genesalComment by genesal
      August 9, 2012 @ 11:30 am

      What a crock!

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    • JamesTComment by JamesT
      August 9, 2012 @ 3:01 pm

      mrblint, you are certainly correct when you say that we should “never think that God owes us anything”. However, concerning the Scripture, that is about the only thing you were correct in stating. To say that the Scripture “suffered through several translations” is a dramatic statement with little truth contained in it. It is more fitting to come from the mouths of atheist professors at our universities of so-called higher learning (which translates as “follow the party line or you’re out the door, teacher”) than to come from the mouth of a true open-minded thinker who has researched his subject. Also, there is more evidence for consistent accuracy and reliability of Scripture than in many of our “scientific” journals which tend to contradict themselves at the drop of an ego. Anyhow, look into it with an open, humble, and prayerful mind and see what God shows you. (See Hebrews 4:12 for a recommendation by the author).

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    • suzetteComment by suzette
      August 9, 2012 @ 3:19 pm

      I have always found that people that say the Bible, God’s Word, is “the work of human beings telling stories and suffered through several translations”…and other such things have NEVER truly read the Bible, but are just quoting quotes they have heard. They will often protest that they have read the Bible, but they haven’t, not really. Reading a few verses here and there is not reading the Bible.
      If there is truly a God, and I believe there is, He is able to preserve His Word to us even through fallible man.
      I challenge you to READ it before deciding it is not the Word of God. You may have just missed the most important letter you’ll ever recieved.
      It is so odd to me that you would refer to the ‘Golden Rule’…The ‘Golden Rule’ originates from Scripture….the Bible, the Word of God. Matthew 7:12 and also Luke 6:31. You seem to like that part…. what makes you think you wouldn’t like the rest? Read it before you decide.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      August 10, 2012 @ 9:42 am

      sitting on the fence that long has had to have damaged your behind, no?

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    • kakdljComment by kakdlj
      August 12, 2012 @ 3:36 pm

      Mrblint888 “Best we can hope for is that men and women be of good will and treat each other as they would like to be treated.” The golden rule! What a great saying, wonder where it came from? “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.” St. Matthew 7:12

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  15. cornerguard66Comment by cornerguard66
    August 9, 2012 @ 12:14 pm

    In order for an atheist to deny there is a God, they must first admit that there is a God to deny. They then state that there is no such God. It is like putting a “beware of dog” sign in your yard. You are stating there is a “dog” in the yard, but the only way to find out is enter the yard. But if you don’t enter the yard you will never know if there is a dog. So you are just denying something you are not willing to prove. On the other hand, Christians entered the yard and found that “God is Love.”
    If someone says to you, “You have no right to impose your morality on me” what they are really saying is, “I have a right to impose my immorality upon you.” The test than become what is best for our country? The answer is that their “immorality” will give you Detroit, Michigan which has been a Democratic area stronghold for 90 years. On the other hand imposing “morality” will give you Michigan’s second largest metro area Grand Rapids which has been a Republican stronghold since the founding of the Republican Party. Detroit is known by everyone for its corruption and the Grand Rapids area was recently voted #1 place in America to raise a family by Forbes Magazine.
    Gays claim that they are “born” gay. However, their greatest fear is that a “partner” will “go straight.” In other words, be “healed” of being gay. If you can be “healed” of something then what you have to be “healed” of is by definition an “illness.”

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  16. Comment by Pamela J Solich
    August 9, 2012 @ 12:59 pm

    WHAT A JERK! Make your complaints to the owner or owners BUT don’t go to someone that is going to take it public and to the courts. Let me guess, his kids are atheist so they incourage him??
    What a joke.
    What is wrong with people. I’m so sick of people like this that does nothing but cause more hatred etc out there. People are already frustrated with no jobs, HIGH GAS PRICES and HIGH food prices.
    Complain about this but this should have been face to face with the owner and allow them to explain.
    NO everyone has to make a mountain out of a mole hill

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  17. Comment by Kenneth Randall
    August 9, 2012 @ 1:03 pm
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  18. Comment by Kenneth Randall
    August 9, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

    As a small business owner, I am only too happy to tell miserable people like him to take his business elsewhere. What right does he or any other activist to come in and dictate who a man should run his business? If you don’t like how a business is run or the opinions of those who run it, then go someplace else! Any questions?

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  19. vevaComment by veva
    August 9, 2012 @ 1:17 pm

    I don’t know the man who doesn’t go to church. Maybe he has worked very hard all of his life. Maybe he has many health problems. But there must be many Christians attending church who will invite him to come with them. Maybe that is what he wants, to have others care.

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  20. bna42Comment by bna42
    August 9, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

    “Maybe that is what he wants, to have others care.”

    If he wants “others to care”, attacking them over a discount in a restaurant is not the best way to win friends and influence people. If he is a professed atheist, surely there are atheist organizations that will support him and “care” about him. Christians care about him, but he has rejected them.

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  21. Comment by Gary Causer
    August 9, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

    These people simply have too much free time on their hands. So, they watch too much TV and learn that the world is rotten because it’s run by people they disagree with who, surprise, are religious.

    That means religion must be stopped so the world will be then run by people they agree with who are not religious.

    It’s not that unusual to wish for the impossible, just frustrating. And frustrated means finding someone to take it out on.

    Besides, this guy did get his “fifteen minutes of fame” didn’t he?

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  22. OldpatriotComment by Oldpatriot
    August 9, 2012 @ 4:22 pm

    I am constantly amazed and amused at how utterly stupid liberals are.

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  23. TexannaComment by Texanna
    August 9, 2012 @ 4:48 pm

    Well, take that old man’s AARP card away from him. No more senior discounts either.

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  24. mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
    August 9, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

    ‘The Lord moves in a mysterious ways His wonders to perform.’

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  25. jdb121Comment by jdb121
    August 9, 2012 @ 5:23 pm

    The restaurant did not discriminate. The church would not discriminate. Some people would discriminate and try to keep the wolf from the door…..but since when was it illegal for anyone to form an organization and stipulate or qualify who or how people are permitted to join that organization? If you are not a millionaire, you can not belong to a millionaire’s club. It is that simple. Why would you want to? Wouldn’t you feel out of place? If the qualification had been the first person in a white and red checkerboard shirt, are all those people who do not have white and red checkerboard shirts being discriminated against?
    Let’s be a little bit rational……

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  26. slickzipComment by slickzip
    August 9, 2012 @ 5:24 pm

    AMEN GOD helps those who believe and help others ,,,

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  27. jamesfromyoComment by jamesfromyo
    August 9, 2012 @ 7:10 pm

    Well Mr. John Wolff – 3 points: 1st You say you don’t have anything against the restaurant owners…but then you file a lawsuit. So you’re a liar. And being an atheist that’s OK because you don’t believe in heaven or hell so you don’t have to worry about the going to the latter. 2nd point – since as an atheist if there were 50 people in the restaurant and a poll was taken, you’d probably be the only atheiest. So it’s your 2% against the other 98%. But since you’re discriminated against lets change the rules for your 2% and disregard the other 98%. You live in a society where majority rules – you lose! Point 3 – Judging from your photo you’re a pretty old man with not too much time left and you’re miserable. Why? Because you’re an atheist and you’re not far from your grave and you don’t believe (so you say) in a god or an afterlife, so you’re feeling pretty miserable. Still time to change your mind and join us religious fanatics.
    Oh and BTW, I forgot too mention somebody forgot to turn the light on upstairs. If you really insist on going there to eat and want to get even, you don’t need a lawyer. The discount you’re complaining about is 10%, so just don’t leave a tip. There you’re even and didn’t have to waste your time on a lawyer.

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  28. reijoComment by reijo
    August 9, 2012 @ 10:37 pm

    Maybe this man was just looking for a bit of notoriety or perhaps just some cheap publicity. Maybe a case of time on his hands and needing to waste it in some futile exercise.

    It always amazes me how a few people will always hunt for some trivial pointless excuse to put forward a case for discrimination against “poor old me”.

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  29. Comment by Carrol Jorgenson
    August 10, 2012 @ 1:12 am

    I’ll bet a weeks paycheck, that had Mr. Wolfe quitely and simply asked for the same discount based on the promotional ad, it would have readily and gladly been given him.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      August 10, 2012 @ 9:47 am

      in an earlier story I read the owners did make just such a statement…

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  30. Comment by Bill Kildow
    August 10, 2012 @ 6:05 am

    My answer to the ridiculous John Wolff. You are a sorry human being – BUT your religion does match your brain EXACTLY – you don’t have any.

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  31. truetexanComment by truetexan
    August 10, 2012 @ 9:38 am

    God Bless You Christians for your wonderful comments. I have just read them, and they truly made my day!

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  32. Comment by Daniel Drawe
    August 10, 2012 @ 11:30 am

    The restaurant shouldn’t be open on Sunday according to the commandment to keep the Sabbath Day holy and the patrons shouldn’t be going out to eat on the Sabbath. Had the restaurant owner been obeying the commandment to not conduct business on Sundays, he wouldn’t be in a position to be sued by the ungodly.

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  33. Mort_fComment by Mort_f
    August 10, 2012 @ 12:08 pm

    If you truly wish to rigorously follow the Sabbath, then I suggest that the Sabbath starts on Friday, at sundown, and continues to Saturday at sundown. During that time you shall not do any work at all, which includes cooking, cleaning, mowing your lawn, riding in a vehicle, writing, or even using a light switch. Neither shall you use any money during that time period. It was only Roman Christian synods, men, that changed it to Sunday. Did they , at that time, negate the preceeding commandments for Sabbath observation? I doubt it.

    We are a secular society in many ways, but one which recognizes the existence of many religions in our midst, and does make accomodations. To each his own beliefs, just so long as it respects the rights of others.

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  34. faithbelieverComment by faithbeliever
    August 10, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

    All I can say is I will pray for this man. Even though he has no belief, God still loves him. As said, there many discounts given and I’m sure he will take his senior citizen discount where they give it and not complain about it.

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  35. commonsenseneededComment by commonsenseneeded
    August 11, 2012 @ 9:19 pm

    Maybe we should file lawsuits against people like this man, who think that just because they don’t believe in God, don’t go to a church or synagogue, no one else should be able to enjoy some discount in price from a like believing soul! I am sick and tired of the minority on a given subject, trying to control what the majority wants. The majority should rule, and those who don’t see things the same way, should understand that it’s just a difference of opinion, in which they are strongly outnumbered, and that doesn’t a lawsuit make. What a waste of court time, and the courts should impose sanctions and fines on lawyers who submit this kind of nonsense.

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  36. kakdljComment by kakdlj
    August 12, 2012 @ 3:56 pm

    This man Mr. John Wolff is old and may not have long on this earth. We need to pray for him to find out about Jesus before he dies. Only God knows what made him a non-believer, but he still loves him and wants him to repent. The Bible says “it is not his will that any should perish, but all should come to repentance.”

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