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Budget 'Super Committee' is a Super Bust

By Bobby Eberle

I thought the idea was stupid before, and now, it appears I was right. Rather than actually making cuts necessary to balance the budget and keep America from spiraling out of control under increasing debt, our leaders in Washington passed the buck. They created a Budget Super Committee to come up with a plan to cut $1.2 trillion out of the budget. If the committee couldn't do its job, then the legislation mandates that across-the-board cuts will be implemented. This was designed to make sure the committee acted. Guess what? They didn't! And now some in Washington want to go back on the legislation that they wrote just a few months ago!

It's actually quite pathetic. As reported by the Associated Press, the Budget Super Committee "appears likely to admit failure on Monday, unable or unwilling to compromise on a mix of spending cuts and tax increases required to meet its assignment of saving taxpayers at least $1.2 trillion over the coming decade."

The panel is sputtering to a close after two months of talks in which the members were never able to get close to bridging a fundamental divide over how much to raise taxes to address a budget deficit that forced the government to borrow 36 cents of every dollar it spent last year.

Members of the bipartisan panel, formed during the summer crisis over raising the government's borrowing limit, spent their time on Sunday in testy performances on television talk shows, blaming each other for the impasse.

Of course, it's the Associated Press, so their emphasis is on the big, bad Republicans not wanted to raise taxes. Just look at the first quote that shows up in the story:

"There is one sticking divide. And that's the issue of what I call shared sacrifice," said panel co-chair Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., on CNN's "State of the Union."

"The wealthiest Americans who earn over a million a year have to share too. And that line in the sand, we haven't seen Republicans willing to cross yet," she said.

I don't even want to get started on this one, but I must make two comments. First, what is this about "shared sacrifice?" Hello! The so-called "rich" pay for almost EVERYTHING the government does. Secondly, we are in this budget mess because we SPEND TOO MUCH. The way to get out is to spend less, yet all the media and the Dems want to focus on is raising more taxes. Remember the budget deal in which the first President Bush agreed to raise taxes? It was supposed to be $1 in taxes increases for each $2 in budget cuts. How's that working out for all of us?

But, I digress. My point is actually not to bash the Dems. Instead, it's to convey an absolute lack of faith that ANYONE in Washington can do what he or she is elected to do. Stop spending so much!

Rather than doing the cutting, they passed the buck to the Super Committee. Here's a summary of what the budget legislation which created the committee does:

Failure by the panel would trigger about $1 billion over nine years in automatic across-the-board spending cuts to a wide range of domestic programs and the Pentagon budget, starting in 2013, according to the Congressional Budget Office. This action, called a "sequester," would also generate $169 billion in saving from lower interest costs on the national debt.

Here's how bad it has become. Not only did the committe not do it's job, but now, Washington politicians want to go back on the legislation that they passed and block the automatic cuts.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., say they are writing legislation to prevent what they say would be devastating cuts to the military. House Republicans are exploring a similar move. Democrats maintain they won't let domestic programs be the sole source of savings.

With nearly $500 billion in defense spending and an equal amount of domestic dollars at stake, plenty of lawmakers are ready to try blocking all or parts of those automatic cuts, if only to win favor from backers of programs whose funds are on the chopping block.

"I have no doubt that there will be efforts to turn it off," said Maya MacGuineas, president of the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Never underestimate the willingness of politicians to try to avoid making some of the hard choices."

So, half of the automatic cuts would come from defense, yet it is the entitlement programs that are swallowing up our budget. I guess it's rocket science or something, but to me, you cut the items that are busting the budget.

This whole situation is an example of political cowardice. We spend too much, and the people in Washington won't stop. They say they will, but they won't. And they have not put forward any plan EVER that will make the cuts necessary to get America back on track.

Granted, it's hard when you have Democrats in control of the Senate and the White House. I do believe that there are a core group in the House who want to get things done. However, this fiasco shows that there are a lot more who are willing to talk than act. Pathetic!

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  1. inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
    November 21, 2011 @ 8:39 am

     
    The mere idea that a super committee must be formed with powers that by-pass our Constitutional way of governing is evidence that the Republic, like Rome was, is in the last throws of its existence. Free men can no longer come together in political comity and Self-Government to do what is best for the people, but only the party. We are no longer the land of Self-governing and providing for Self, but the land of living off and appropriating that which belongs to others. The Liberals Socialists have finally divided our nation for conquest. The Liberals idea of shared sacrifice is when 47-50% of the people pay no taxes while the producers and creators of wealth pay all the freight? Shared sacrifice in a country where all men are created equal is SHARED equally, not redistributed from one party of manipulators to another.
     
    Just how do the American people come to think that anything is ever going to get done in Washington when the nit-wits we elect cannot understand this basic concept? The basic American ties of equality that bind this country together in brotherhood have been rent asunder in Socialism which by definition is Selfish’ism. They have taught us to love our Selves, our immediate gratification, our fleeting pleasures more than we love our own children who will pay the piper. They would have us live in transcendental dreams and eschew reality. Wake up Americans.
     
    “I slept and dreamt that life was Beauty, ( Liberal Dreamers )
     
    Then woke to find that life as Duty, (Conservative Realists)
     
    Was thy dream then a shadowy lie?”
     

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      November 21, 2011 @ 8:55 am

       
      Liberalism is the pillow of the lazy mind and the couch of the lazy body.
       

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    • teapartyproudComment by teapartyproud
      November 21, 2011 @ 10:15 pm

      Liberalism is, indeed, a mental disorder.

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    • richlinderComment by Rich
      November 22, 2011 @ 10:21 am

      Naa…  Liberalism is just a very bad way to run a nation.

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  2. newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
    November 21, 2011 @ 9:07 am

    I honestly believe this so-called “super commitee” was formed specifically to fail, period.  It was a scam from the beginning that was set up to give Obama another reason to blame Republicans for “his” failures.  Most of the people on that committee are extremely partisan and could not under any circumstances come to an agreement especially where the entitlement programs are concerned. 

    It was not so much a “stupid” idea as some contend, but I believe a political strategy for Obama to use in his never ending campaign.  He has managed to keep himself out of the fray, as usual, but the failure of this committee and the so-called “trigger” which is now under questioning, will be a perfect ploy for him to once again shift the blame elsewhere for what some think to be failure, but is actually what he intended to happen in the first place.  I really don’t believe that all this madness is going on simply because every one is totally devoid of brain matter, but because of their evil, maneuverings for their specific goals that have been in place for a long time.

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    • lovemycountry2Comment by lovemycountry2
      November 21, 2011 @ 9:54 am

      Right on, Newsjunky!

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      November 21, 2011 @ 12:16 pm

      The Commission was commissioned to identify spending cuts.
      That sounds simple enough for even a liberal politician to understand.

      Find expenditures which can be reduced enough that 1.2 trillion gets ‘not spent’ over the next ten years.

      There is nothing in that which addresses modifications to existing programs, taxation levels, or reducing the national debt.

      The entire goal is to SPEND LESS MONEY.

      How can any group of twelve (supposedly) intelligent persons fail at such a simple task?

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    • TRUTHTELLERComment by TRUTHTELLER
      November 21, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

      Newsjunky,

      You got most of it right, but, in addition, when Obummer and his merry band of Marxists put together and encouraged this illegal supercommittee, there is another hidden benefit.  If they fail, and they have, huge cuts in military spending will go into effect. 

      Just when we will be needing a strong military to crush the pending Islamic onslaught, from multiple Islamic terrorist governments, the Muslim imposter and chief, will be tickled pink with hundreds of billions in defense cuts.

      The Iraninans, Syrians, Al Kieda and the Muslim brotherhood must be laughing their ***** of at us.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      November 21, 2011 @ 8:59 pm

      Truthteller:

      You’re right!  I heard Obama talking about that today!  He’s determined to cut back on our military spending if they can’t reach a deal, and time is just about up.

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  3. brucefeherComment by Bruce Feher
    November 21, 2011 @ 9:41 am

    The cesspool known as Washington get fuller everyday!
    The good news is that regular citizens, we unwashed masses, are catching on, thank you internet, and I for one will not stand for this latest slap in the face.
    Stay tuned…..

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  4. lovemycountry2Comment by lovemycountry2
    November 21, 2011 @ 10:41 am

    This is a good conservative site, but a lot of computer glitches on these posts, especially with the ratings and star set-ups.

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    • TRUTHTELLERComment by TRUTHTELLER
      November 23, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

      lovemycountry2,

      The rating stars are not full of glitches.  Moveon.org, ACORN, SEIU and other assorted Communist operatives and trolls, go through our posts on a regular basis and punch in one star ratings right down the line.  This brings all the rating averages down.

      When this happens to one of my posts, I consider it a complement and know, that I am definitely exposing their lies and deceptions and by their actions, I am getting to them and they are retaliating.

       

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  5. bna42Comment by bna42
    November 21, 2011 @ 10:57 am

    “This whole situation is an example of political cowardice.”

    And this is the reason the cowards should be unemployed. The gridlock and bickering between the two parties has to come to an end if this nation has any chance of survival.  Voting on members of the House every 2 years and the Senate every 6 years is not adequate to allow the people to have any clout among the politicians financed by lobbyists. If we don’t change the way we do business in this country, there will soon be no business for us to worry about.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      November 21, 2011 @ 9:12 pm

       
      Philosopher Immanuel Kant defined lack of Enlightenment as people’s inability to think for themselves due not to their lack of intellect, but lack of courage. Our present politicians are no exception.
       

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  6. bshambrookComment by bshambrook
    November 21, 2011 @ 11:01 am

     
    The debt commission is just window dressing and does not address the core and fundamental problem which is the bloated federal bureaucracy. Why go after programs that take back from the public and can be used by the Democrats to slam the Republicans, go after the true culprits. If the debt problem was being addressed correctly it would result in the downsizing or elimination of departments and many employees. I would anticipate that enough redundancy, waste, duplication or worthless services, would be identified that their elimination would quickly bring the budget into balance. It would certainly cause an uptick in the unemployment number but I would expect that the unemployed in the private sector would not shed a tear.
     
    HOW TO SLASH THE DEBT IN A WAY THAT CAN BE EASILY EXPLAINED TO TAX PAYERS AND CAN MINIMIZE THE ABILITY OF THE DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT THE ACTIONS.
     
    As part of the process in identifying federal programs and departments that should be cut or eliminated, the Republicans should use the same criteria that insurance companies must meet in Obamacare. Specifically the maximum that is allowed for admin expenses is 20% of the premiums collected and benefits paid out. Given that the government does not have to meet a bottom-line profit to stay in business, let alone grow, I would suggest that the admin expenses for government programs be limited to 10% of the benefits(if they even exist) provided. Each department should be required to build a ”Zero-based budget” plan to justify both its existence and spending programs based upon measurable objectives and returns. I expect this would cut or eliminate many departments, and duplicate and useless programs. This is a process used by many businesses and I cannot understand why so many of the Republicans in Congress who have a business background do not jump on it as an accepted and proven way to address the debt. I also expect that there would be much waste found in the administration of the “entitlement programs”. By removing this it could make a major contribution to dealing with Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security running out of money.
     

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  7. onthebrightComment by onthebright
    November 21, 2011 @ 11:19 am

    Well the whole thing was unconstitutional anyway. Either Congress passed a bill without seeing it (but then again they did that on healthcare) or they should have had the chance to filibuster the resulting “agreement”. Not that they have the spine to make the cuts.
    As stated above, this isn’t about revenue, it’s about spending which must be curtailed.
    I’m really disgusted at the so-called Republican leaders who 1) agreed to this at all (as they were set-up to either cave or fail–either one being a Dem victory), 2) that they offered all kinds of “revenue increases” and still got turned down, 3) all the expenditures will be in the short-term while the cuts are long term (and unenforceable on a future Congress). Dumb through and through, and 4) they had to know the MSM would rake them for the failure and NOT the Dems–oh big surprise, let’s all start whining now.
    So now the Prez is going to add campaigning against Congress to his class warfare rhetoric. Anyone surprised?

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  8. JDZComment by JDZ
    November 21, 2011 @ 11:24 am

    It is embarrassing and a sad state of affairs when we watch our government’s inability to even come up with a way of saving 5 cents of every dollar spent.  That is the challenge, 5 cents out of every dollar.  The stalemate is the class warfare argument that Obama has been using since the debt debate and the obsession that the Democrats have with raising the taxes on the wealthier taxpayers while ignoring the 50% of Americans who pay NO taxes.  This argument is weak from the outset in terms of impact on our national debt, unemployment, or economy because of the minimal amount of additional tax income that raising the tax rate on the wealthiest a few points would have on any of our problems.

    The polarization and lack of willingness of Congress to change anything major with regard to how our government is organized to operate, the budgeting process, the huge entitlement problem, the growing national debt, the “trigger” process that would gut our national defense, the latitude that Congress has to approve their own salaries and perks including passing a policy that allows congressional members to participate in “insider trading” without reparations, etc. is sad to watch.

    President Obama has incited this situation and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid took it to extremes when they forced the Obamacare legislation through Congress against the will of the majority of Americans.  This legislation singularly facilitated the downfall of any chance of bipartisan cooperation on any future legislation during the Obama administration.  It was handled crudely and so partisan that it had all of the attributes of a typical “Chicago” style policital manuever and now the country at large is suffering the consequences on a much broader basis.

    The strategy of Obama leading into the elections next year is to attempt to demonize the Republican party and its candidate for President and to develop the choice for American voters to choose between the lesser of two evils (Obama is working hard but not performing…over the party of NO). He will use class warfare and other traditional liberal arguments against the conservative policies, etc. but will attempt to stay away from his inability to lead this country out of the current recession.  He will attempt to avoid discussing the widespread corruption in his administration that he and Holder are trying to suppress.  He will avoid taking the blame for increasing the national debt more then all of the President’s before him combined. ETC. 

    The Republican Party has to nominate a candidate that will take it to Obama in the national debates and expose all of this nonsense and propaganda for what it is and how incompetent Obama is as President.  His arrogance and inability to deal with obvious problems is scary and leads one to believe that he purposely wants to take this country down just to feed his ego and socialist oriented mindset that exposes his hatred for the America we all love.

    If I were King, I would fire the entire Congress and senior management in our government and have a massive re-election of every seat in Congress based on a clear set of prerequisites to be a candidate.  We need to totally overhaul the federal government from the top down. It needs to be streamlined and much more focused on the critical jobs that we need done at the federal level and taken out of being the largest charity in the world.  We need to reshape the government based on our Constitution and the federalist structure between the state and federal level. Much to be done…heaven help us.

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    • maggiedad2Comment by maggiedad2
      November 21, 2011 @ 2:01 pm

      JDZ,
      We DO have the ability to fire the entire congress, albeit not all at once.  Every two years we can move 435 + 1/3 of the Senate.  I refuse to vote for an incumbent, and I encourage everyone I know to consider doing the same. 

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  9. richlinderComment by Rich
    November 21, 2011 @ 11:39 am

    While it would be wonderful if there was enough intelligent life left in Washington DC to have a proper government, those days are obviously relegated to history now.  The problem of excessive spending has existed for such a long time now that most national politicians (on both sides of the aisle)  don’t even recognize unconstititional spending when they see it.

    Since that is the case, our last (and only) hope left is for an unfortunate program like a budgetary “super commitee” to do what our so-called representatives in Washington are too self-centered to do, that is reduce Federal Spending.

    Till that happens, regardless of how it happens, there simply is no long-term hope for this nation.

    It isn’t JUST a Democrat/liberal problem.  Plenty of Republicans have also forgotten what it means to be a Statesman.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      November 21, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

      Plenty of Republicans have also forgotten what it means to be a Statesman.”

      Hear, hear!  There’s blame to be spread everywhere!  The Unions threatened the Dems not to concede to any cuts for any entitlement program or all hell would break loose.  Just how can anyone find any sensible solutions under those kinds of threats.  The corruption and waste is so rampant, nothing short of God could salvage this country. 

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    • richlinderComment by Rich
      November 21, 2011 @ 4:07 pm

      So it is written, so it shall be done.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      November 21, 2011 @ 9:17 pm

      Not to panic, this is just American Democracy in action as designed by our founders who beleived that gridlock works until such time as the fools can be removed from office and sanity returns to government. It is the Judicial nullifiers of the Constitution they did not account for.

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    • richlinderComment by Rich
      November 22, 2011 @ 10:00 am

      Sad but true.  Problem is, we no longer have as much surplus as we once did.  We’ve been giving it away (to buy votes) for so long, the Golden Goose is already dead.  Too many people in this nation are too ignorant to see it.

      Greece is not the exception in Europe.  Greece is simply Europe’s California.

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  10. jqcitizenComment by jqcitizen
    November 21, 2011 @ 11:42 am

    I agree, that the super committee was a joke. It was primarily designed to pass the buck. We send or representatives to Congress to represent their constituents and the Country in the manner that was intended by the founding fathers and the Constitution with due deliberation and hopefully intelligence. Their primary concern should not be their re-election, personal enrichment, catering to lobbyist or the special interest of any group. Instead we have in large part an Administration and Congress which seem intent on unduly restricting individual liberty, freedoms, and guaranteed rights. Picking economic winners and losers, usurping State rights, pulling more and more wealth out of the private market economy to support an ever-growing out-of-control government.
    We need honest elected officials that realize that they are to represent all this Country and ensure a fair opportunity for everyone, not to guarantee a living-wage or an equal outcome. They need take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously in the performance of their duties. I would like to believe that both parties are capable of understanding that our economic problems primarily result from over spending and not a lack of tax revenue. Over the last several decades, no matter how well the economy has performed, and enhanced government revenues as a result, the government always finds new ways to over spend. They can never get enough. They can never find a department that needs to be abolished, they can never find a regulation that should be abolished, and they can never fail to regulate or tax success out of existence or to ensure that failure is rewarded.
    Our Constitution and our market based economy have not failed our Country. Our political leaders have. In God Trust.     

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  11. Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
    November 21, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

    So who is surprised at this?  All 12 members of this “super committee” should be “dumped” at the next election as well as the idiots, Boehner and Reid, who selected them.  This was doomed to failure from the inception and why do we expect any different.  We have a Congress which is absolutely unresponsive to what the American people want, who are far too busy with their insider trading and their pandering to lobbyists to even care what the electorate wants.
     
    Never mind the finger pointing from both sides of the aisle…………..both sides are equally guilty and there are probably not many more than twenty people in the House and perhaps  ten or a dozen in the Senate who are interested in truly “serving” the people.
     
    Nearly every problem in this country today can be placed directly on the people in Washington, all of them!

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  12. mcoryComment by mcory
    November 21, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

    What ever happened to having skin in the game like Vice President Dofus said all American should have?  Forty-seven percent of Americans don’t pay taxes, and it isn’t the rich. Like Michelle Bachman said everyone should pay taxes even it is ten dollars.  No Republican is pounding this home. So, we have the majority of Dimocrats who believe in raising taxes on the rich, a majority of Republicans who believe in cutting the budget, and Independents who believe in doing both. What a mess!

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      November 21, 2011 @ 4:21 pm

      PaulC, it has become evident that O is fecal matter.

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  13. wdjincComment by wdjinc
    November 21, 2011 @ 1:46 pm

    This was doomed from the start with two from each party serving. Should have had an independent added (someone that both parties would have had to agree with) to assure a majority voting process.

    What a waste of time! Spending needs to be cut severely, so quit making those Solyndra-type loans. We need to ramp up jobs to increase taxes. Taxing from the wealthy would never work well as they would put on their money into stocks and sit on their investments to avoid capital gains and avoid paying higher taxes. We need the rich to put their money into investing in the private sector to expand production and business, SS age needs to be raised to age 70. benefits to illegals should be stopped, curtailment of unions collective bargaining for government employees should be enacted, pensions should be dropped in favor of 401K’s. Also Elimination of the EPA would help in getting environmentalists off the backs of oil-drilling and pipeline ventures…the list goes on. What’s happening in Greece, Spain and Italy could easily happen here unless we act now. 

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  14. MadmanComment by Madman
    November 21, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

    Ths is a real Stupid committee! In the real world and they were running a private company they would be forced to resign and not go past go to go to collect their
    dues which is nothing. At least you could due the right thing now  for what,s best
    for our country. Don’t worry about getting relected just resign.

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  15. Ben_ColderComment by Ben_Colder
    November 21, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

    King Midas touch was golden. Obamas touch is what? _________

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    • paulcComment by paulc
      November 21, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

      O’s touch is fecal matter

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  16. AMVoterComment by AMVoter
    November 21, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

    Who thought this ridiculous committee would ever come up with a decent plan?  Obama should have called the Congress back into session last August and made them remain in session until an agreement was reached instead of going on a lavish vacation to Martha’s Vineyard, and then leaving the country as this latest dateline approaches.
     
    Now Obama is hold up in the oval office furiously working on his important speech to pardon the turkey instead of leading the country.
     
    This country needs a leader!

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  17. billwvComment by billwv
    November 21, 2011 @ 4:47 pm

    Sort of like when the old farmer said, ‘Just throw it up in the air and come what may’.
    And the results were, ‘Sure enough it did’.  What a bunch of hog [hawg] wash !  A super committee that was destined to fail before it ever started.  I am truly amazed at the complete and total stupidity of our elected officials.  Third grade children could find more common ground than this bunch of [no minds].  Need to [fire] the whole bunch and start again from scratch.  Out of over 2 trillion dollars a year they couldn’t even find 1.3 trillion of cuts for 10 years !   AMAZING ! 

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  18. bobnipComment by bobnip
    November 22, 2011 @ 1:41 am

    All of you that say this committee was doomed to fail are absolutely correct. It’s all about the blame game. Unfortunately, the Democrats seem to be winning. The Demos say the committee failed because of the obstructionist Republicans. Congress currently has a 9% approval rating. If you are tuned in to Obama’s B.S. rhetoric then you obviously know he has blamed the Republicans in Congress for everything!  I would point out that the Demos assigned to the committee had no intentions of cutting a single program. That was by design! Their solution is to simply raise taxes. Where are the Republican leaders?  Why are they not pointing out Obama’s true agenda? Damn it to hell, folks!  Even Bill O’ Riley seems to be continually giving Obama the benefit of the doubt! Get Obama in a debate to finally admit he is a Communist! It’s time to take off the gloves and go bare fist on this! The American people, when they find out they have been supporting a Communist piece of garbage, will finally turn against this piece of ****! Why are they not pointing out that Obama’s Jobs Bill is simply another spending scheme?

    We cannot rely on Prime Minister Nevelle Chamberlain type diplomacy anymore!  You saw what it did for England in WWII! Hitler laughed when Chamberlain went back to England and told his people he had everything under control!

    Obama is a clear and present danger. I don’t believe he has any intentions of there being a 2012 election. What do you intend on doing about it????

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  19. richlinderComment by Rich
    November 22, 2011 @ 10:08 am

    Not “doomed” to fail.  Intended to fail, just like the so-called “Stimulus” spending bill.

    We could NEVER rely on Chamberlain type diplomacy.  It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.  The only way “bargaining” works is when you are dealing (from a position of strength) with a government that is controlled by reasonable individuals.   There is no effective way to bargain with radical extremists or demented idealists.  All a nation can do in that case is be ready when he decides to attack you.  From “remember the Alamo” to “remember Pearl Harbor” and now “remember 9-11″  many Americans seem to forget forget about it pretty quickly.

    Perhaps even YOU forget that many voters in America today actually prefer that Obama be a Marxist. Just saying that sounds to to my ears… Times they are a changing… And not necessarily for the better.

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  20. cynicalobserverComment by cynicalobserver
    November 30, 2011 @ 11:04 am

    This committee has driven another nail in America’s coffin so They ill be cordially accepted by Congress and the president.

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