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Is Cain's Victory a 'Protest Vote'?

By Bobby Eberle

Forget Iowa. The straw poll every one is talking about is the one that occurred on Saturday in Florida. That's the one Gov. Rick Perry won, right? Nope. Oh, that's the one former Gov. Mitt Romney won, eh? Nope. When all was said and done, conservative businessman Herman Cain emerged as the winner. Was it a fluke? Was it a protest vote? Or perhaps... maybe the voters are giving the "second tier" another look.

First, the data. In a straw poll election held by Florida delegates selected from around the state, Herman Cain captured 37.1 percent of the vote. In second place was Rick Perry with 15.4 percent followed by Mitt Romney with 14 percent. As the AP notes in its story, "While all declared candidates were on the ballot, the first-tier candidates did not compete. Perry bought hundreds of activists' breakfasts on the sidelines before heading to Michigan. Romney skipped and didn't send representatives to the forum."

Fox News reports that the remaining candidates on the ballot finished with the following percentages: Santorum: 11%; Paul: 10.5%; Gingrich: 8.5%; Huntsman: 2%; Bachmann: 1%. As a reminder, Michele Bachmann was the winner of the straw poll in Iowa.

Following his victory, Cain said:

"Thank you to the Republican voters for this incredible honor of being named the winner of the Presidency 5 straw poll in Florida today," Cain said in a statement after the results were in.

"This is a sign of our growing momentum and my candidacy that cannot be ignored. I will continue to share my message of 'common sense solutions' across this country and look forward to spending more time in Florida, a critical state for both the nomination and the general election," he said.

But does this straw poll mean anything? As noted in the Fox News story, both Romney and Bachmann had left Florida "before the voting began and their campaigns discounted the straw poll's role in the campaign. Other first-tier candidates hadn't actively organized for the Florida vote, either. So the results probably won't shuffle the campaign's standings and were shaping up as little more than a popularity contest among the delegates selected by local party organizations."

Appearing on NBC's "Today" show, Cain said the results were "not a protest vote." Here's what he had to say on Fox News:


So... was a vote for Cain a vote for "none of the above"? Yes, it was, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Ok... before you freak out, keep reading.

Before Rick Perry entered the race, people asked me what I thought about his candidacy. Without hesitation, I told each person who asked that if Perry ran, it would be a "game changer." It was. Perry vaulted to the top of the polls. He instantly become the front runner. The real question is... why? The answer is because conservatives were looking at the field and could not find "their candidate." Some who wanted an alternative to Romney focused on Michele Bachmann. But when Perry entered, that focus and attention shifted to him. He was now the choice of conservatives.

Game over, right? Wrong. With each passing debate, people are realizing that this race is still wide open. Because of some very poor advice on message and delivery, Perry has stumbled. Conservatives are having a real problem with his stances on some of the issues. So then comes the Florida straw poll. Now, if any of the top candidates were truly strong, then he or she would have won the poll even without massive campaigning. The problem lies in the fact that conservatives are once again scratching their heads and wondering what is going on with the top of the field.

If "none of the above" can win a poll, it means that people like Perry and Romney need to do a better job on the issues. It also means that "none of the above" represents a sizable block of voters who want someone who represents them. But most importantly, "none of the above" gives people an opportunity to hear more about a no-nonsense, conservative. "None of the above" now has a name, and his name is Herman Cain.

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  1. onewildmanComment by onewildman
    September 27, 2011 @ 8:21 am

     I think that Floridians saw Cain as the person who truly cared about the voters in Florida. I think Romney and Perry left the impression that Floridians don’t matter and their straw poll wasn’t important enough to bother with. I don’t really care for Romney or Perry. I’m not sure what is about Romney I don’t like. I know that every time I look at Perry and here him talk he reminds me of the crooked politicians from old black & white movies. he just has that look to me and gives me the same feeling when he speaks. I’m not saying that Perry is crooked or dishonest. I’m just saying that is the feeling I get.
    Herman Cain will get my vote before either of those two.
    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      September 27, 2011 @ 10:01 am

       
      Perhaps Herman Cain was saved from the jaws of Cancer by the Divine hand of Providence to show America at the Presidential level how a REAL American Black Man, not Obamanite boy in an adult’s body President is suppose to speak and behave. Yes there IS REAL HOPE FOR CHANGE in the heart and Soul of the African American Community and entire country as well if they would just sweep Obama back under the Socialist rug from which he crawled out, and then proceed to raise some Cain.
       
      Liberal Progressives fear him as he represents everything in the black community they are unable to manipulate, i.e. a truth seeking  African American Alpha male of belief, who believes there is a God and it is NOT him. Obama, please take note as you go down in defeat November 2012.
       

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      September 27, 2011 @ 11:43 am

      I think the Florida straw poll voters may well have watched the previous debate and liked what they heard from Herman Cain.
       
      People keep saying they are tired of the professional establishment politicians.  Perhaps we are seeing that they really mean it!

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:01 pm

      The trolls have been here!
       
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! !

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    • ocollaughComment by ocollaugh
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:28 pm

      Like many others, I like Herman Cain as president. He has superior business sense and has lots of successful business experience.

      Unlike Obummer, Herman is a real person with real workable solutions.

      The sooner Obamacare is defunded and de legitimized, and the sooner Obummer is impeached, the sooner we can all get back to saving America.

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW.

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    • KBBComment by KBB
      September 28, 2011 @ 1:24 am

      Yes, Cain’s victory was a protest vote – protesting against the performances of Perry and Romney, mostly their bickering.  And I don’t put much value on straw polls.  Besides, it’s way too early to detect a bonafide and permanent front-runner.

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  2. thedoveComment by thedove
    September 27, 2011 @ 9:09 am

    One thing that has emerged for me from these debates is that, in my humble opinion, the Republican candidates still don’t get it.  I think they should spend more time–or have their staffs spend more time–reading these comments and others like them, as well as blogs, and less time studying polls.  I don’t want Perry telling me, in these debates, what’s wrong with Romney as a candidate, or Romney telling me what’s wrong with Perry.  I can figure that out for myself, and prefer to do so, thank you very much.  I don’t want you to waste my time telling me why I shouldn’t vote for Candidate X, I want you to tell me why I should vote for you.  What, specifically, do you plan to do to undo the damage done by the Obama years; that’s what I want to know.
    I already know about RomneyCare, and about subsidized tuition for the children of illegal aliens, you’ve hit me over the head with that for months.  Tell me, instead, what your plans are, and do it in simple, understandable terms, not politicspeak.  In November of 2012, one of you will be running against Obama, not Perry, not Romney, not Bachman, but Obama.  Tell me how you’ll do a better job than he has done.  Is that so difficult?  If it is, you haven’t earned my vote.

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    • riverkingComment by RiverKing
      September 27, 2011 @ 9:42 am

      Expanding on your first point, it should be clear to the candidates that Reagan’s XIth Commandment, “Thou shalt not speak ill of fellow Republicans”, is very much in force.  Tim Pawlenty ignored the XIth and paid the price; he’s history.  Michele Bachmann, of all people since she was Pawlenty’s main target, didn’t seem to learn anything from Pawlenty and she is paying the price.  Now Romney and Perry are heading over the same cliff.
       
      On the other hand, has anyone heard Herman Cain say anything bad about any of the other Republican candidates?  His message has consistently been about what he would do and how he would solve the problems facing us.

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    • 2banewshound2Comment by 2banewshound2
      September 27, 2011 @ 11:45 am

      I have to agree with you that we should be hearing from these candidates their plan of action for our country.  I believe that there does need to be some debate though on past actions of each of these candidates cause some people are not actively involved in looking into a candidate’s past actions via news print or internet.  That would leave a bad taste in many a mouth to not have known about the past history of a candidate if that hadn’t been brought out in a venue that one could perhaps catch a glimpse of.  But let’s not focus all the attention to past history… but solutions to our future.

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      September 27, 2011 @ 11:46 am

      Couldn’t agree more……I want to hear what candidates views are.  I am very turned off by all this opponent bashing, particularly between Perry and Romney.  Give me the facts of your plans and I’ll sort everything out!

      I can look up the candidates records on my own (on reputable sites).

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      September 27, 2011 @ 1:18 pm

      We get that kind of ‘tearing down of the other guy’ because the media has made that the way to run campaigns.

      Gingrich sees through that media manipulation, and the others should follow his lead on that.

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    • NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
      September 27, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

      Exactly, Vietnamvet. Gingrich’s withering response to the “gameshow” question about who he would pick as a vp was brilliant. He wants to engage the American people in a debate over ideas, and shows his contempt when the media try to drag him into this tabloid politics. All of the candidates freely admit he has good ideas and would be able to work with Congress to make sure they are implemented. I so hope more people see what a talent we have in him.

      This straw poll was a protest vote for sure. It was Floridians, like all American people, protesting the fact that once again the media and Republican party seem to be trying to pick their candidate for them. This race is still wide open, and anything could happen.

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  3. Kevin in KansasComment by Kevin in Kansas
    September 27, 2011 @ 9:34 am

    People like Herman Cain because he is a real person,  He’s an intelligent businessman who’s run a major coporation.  He loves America and the values we used to cherish.  Above all, he is NOT a career politician like all of the other slick talking heads in the race.  He makes sense.  He does not talk down to people. 

    A stuffed shirt like Romney will probably win the nomination, but my heart yearns for a candidate named Herman Cain.  He represents what greatness can be achieved in America. 

    If the current trend of GOP infighting continues, the hapless republicans will all but hand the evil empire another term, and that will not stand with the American people.

    GOP, you have been warned…countless times.  Wake up.

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  4. savannahguyComment by savannahguy
    September 27, 2011 @ 9:40 am

    Herman Cain is a true conservative and very capable problem solver. He should be a GA senator now except for some last minute untrue mud in the last election.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 27, 2011 @ 10:18 am

      Will these untrue allegations surface again? Will any of them stick? I would imagine the Democrats will invent stuff if they can’t find true dirt. Look at the nonsense they came up with on Sarah Palin. Cain might be better off if he isn’t recognized as a contender right away. Less time to attack him.

      I would certainly vote for Cain. So far I have seen no reason not to. Of course, by the time Texas votes in the primaries, they are already decided. We are stuck with whoever the early states pick. 

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    • ukulelemikeComment by ukulelemike
      September 27, 2011 @ 11:22 am

      txgoatlady, I like your avatar a pretty Boer you have there. Looks like some of mine.
       
      As for the comment, I agree-Cain is the man. probably, at this point, better that he’s not part of the political inside. Better a businessman these days than another professional politician.

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  5. woodyComment by woodyl1011fl
    September 27, 2011 @ 9:46 am

    Herman Cain seems to understand the true nature of our nations position and the destructive forces of the Bloshevik democrat party that are in the process of destroying our nation. The others seem to lose sight of the real war we are in for our own survival.When you see a “D” behind a candidates name or and office holder the only thing that “D” stands for is destroyer or  to coin a phrase from a movie they are the “destructor”(s)

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  6. marilynsComment by marilyns
    September 27, 2011 @ 10:05 am

    Herman Cain is truly presidential.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      September 27, 2011 @ 10:47 am

      Unlike that pathetic excuse for a Black man that pretends to be one in the office now. Since the black community stuck us with this loser Obama, it is only fitting and just that they provide us with the solution to the problem they created in the first place, which was listening to the liberal mantra of entitlement, unlike a Herman Cain who raises the spirit, raises the motivation and Raises some Cain.

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  7. johnmccainComment by johnmccain
    September 27, 2011 @ 10:18 am

    I don’t understand why everyone is saying Hermann Cain is a second tier candidate. I believe that he would be much better for our country than Romney, Perry, or Bachman. He is articulate and an obviously well educated person who has good ideas and I believe would be a clean break from politics as usual.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 27, 2011 @ 10:19 am

      Interesting screen name. Are you a big McCain fan?

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    • johnmccainComment by johnmccain
      September 27, 2011 @ 10:45 am

      My name is John McCain and I am the real conservative. I just look different on TV. 

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 27, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

      Not a “maverick” like the Senator? 

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  8. BobbyComment by Kenneth Kehl
    September 27, 2011 @ 10:55 am

    I know what Hermin Cain stands for but canot say for sure what the others stand for.  Reagan always told pople what he stood for and he had four values he repeated each time he spoke.  Hermin Cain is doing the same thing. I admire a man who knows what his core values are and is able to articulate those values so aothers know what he stands for. If the election were held today I would vote for Hermin Cain. BK

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  9. revdjn616Comment by revdjn616
    September 27, 2011 @ 11:02 am

    What is America thinking? Pushing candidates that are nothing more than establishment talking heads. Herman Cain is not a talking head. Wake up America and Google Herman Cain and see the record of successes he has to his credit in the business world. Much like Ronald Reagan, Herman Cain speaks from a heart that has not been corrupted by Washington insider-ness. He comes with true courage and very real concepts of what America can look like with leadership that does not have a lot of baggage of people he “owes”. Herman owes no one but God for his success. Let’s get the real Americans who are real Conservatives to get on the train that can roar into Washington and make a huge difference in the way America spends money and treats our foreign partners in a Global Market, Global Economy, and Global Relationships.

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  10. ukulelemikeComment by ukulelemike
    September 27, 2011 @ 11:19 am

    People need to wake up to Perry-ask around in Texas: he pushed the Transamerican corridor highway, and was planning on using eminent domain to take the property of thousands of Americans to use for the corridor. This is not a conservative move, and if he’s willing to do this as Governor, what will he do as President? Vote Cain! And Romney is just a stuffed shirt who looks nice in a suit-he follows the same plans as Obamacare, so we don’t need him.  

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    • RobertRComment by RobertR
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:42 pm

      Obviously you’re not referring to the people who voted in the last governor’s election where Perry won a majority of the votes over a handful of other candidates.

      The Trans Texas corridor would have been a Godsend in removing thousands of trucks from our other roadways. It was truly thinking ahead which is something that most people cannot fathom. Governor Perry saw the need for a super highway to move material through the state and free up our regular roadways for everyday traffic.

      If everyone had the idea that taking land for highways was a no-no as your purport then we wouldn’t have today’s’ Interstate Highways and would be traveling across the country on a hodgepodge of Farm to Market Roads. Well come to think of it we wouldn’t have them either!

      Backwards thinking and selfishness is not how you run a country the size of America.

      It would have taken many years to build that highway and when it would have opened it would have done wonders for the State of Texas. But a bunch of backwards thinking selfish hillbillies kept it from becoming reality. These are of the same mindset of those who fought the HPV vaccine that has been proven safe in many countries of the world. We have our share of retards and inbreeds who do their best to keep us in the Stone Age!  If they insisted on having their children exposed they could have opted out.  Most parents otherwise would never even have known that the vaccine existed for their own kids.  At least this debate did bring it back to the forefront and maybe some mothers will have their kids vaccinated.  I’ve lost a lot of friends to cancer and the majority went way too soon.  If a cancer vaccine was available for us to take that could prevent cancer I’d be in that line.  It’s a horrible and painful way to go, taking a toll not only on the victim but on the family also as they watch helplessly unable to do anything about it. 

      I am a Perry supporter and also a supporter of Herman Cain just so people know where I’m coming from.   I’ll take Romney over Obama however if that’s what it takes.  I did vote for McCain even if I had to put a clothespin on my nose to do so! 
       

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  11. 2banewshound2Comment by 2banewshound2
    September 27, 2011 @ 11:20 am

    Part of this story does not seem entirely corrrect as this story cites an AP news wire that the top tier candidates did not compete.  Nowhere close to that paragraph did this story emphasize that Perry did somewhat compete.  Romney may not have competed… but Perry, through his surrogate – Michael Williams, did in fact compete.  Williams, acting in behalf of Perry, spoke to the delegates before the vote… and Perry himself spoke to a breakfast crowd in Orlando before leaving for Michigan.  Let’s not take this victory away from Cain.  
           If being a good debater is the issue…  this country is in real trouble.  The issues should be about this country and how these candidates will act on these issues.  We can only look into each of their past actions and history to see how they will lead this country.  They claim Obama is a good debater.  So to win in November, will we need some who can not only debate… but someone who is not just speaking words… but speaking with conviction that does not change from one day to the next.
         “None of the above” did not win the Florida straw poll… Cain won it, and won it impressively.

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  12. BasiaComment by Basia
    September 27, 2011 @ 11:21 am

    I have admired Herman Cain from the very beginning. A man of character and integrity, who’s actually worked in the private sector, knows the value of the dollar, and cares about this country. People – wake up – Romney is just a polished suit…we need a game changer, and Cain could just be that person we’ve been waiting for.

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      September 27, 2011 @ 11:59 am

      I am also a Cain supporter but to Romney’s credit, he has a very impressive business contribution in his background. When the Salt Lake Winter Olympics was in serious money trouble, they turned to Romney for help. Not only did he “save their bacon” he turned it into a money maker.
       
      People do need to be given credit for what they do right as well as taking the lumps for past mistakes. I don’t know anyone who has made a mistake in their life that doesn’t still remind them of their own fallibility.

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  13. SAnnComment by SAnn
    September 27, 2011 @ 11:49 am

    Does anyone here research any of the candidates? I like Cain and I like his connection to the regular folks and his communication level with us and that he ran a business in the private sector. All of that is good but what about he was/is a strong supporter of TARP and does not believe the Federal Reserve should be audited, which I agree with Ron Paul that it does and I do not agree with Paul on a lot of things. Cain did come out strongly against Islam and appointing Muslims to his cabinet but then caved in on that issue by saying he would appoint Muslims to his administration and judgeships. Cain also has been CEO of the American Competitiveness Council almost since its creation. Don’t know about that one? Check it out as well as his connection to ALEC the organization that wants to rewrite our constitution where he has spoken at their meetings. We, the people, better be careful when that talk of  a constitutional convention is mentioned and the people behind it. Don’t agree and don’t believe? Remember 2008 and what we have in the White House now that you were suppose to get Hope and Change?  I will continue to check out the candidates and what and who they are involved in and with. Want a conservative who believes in the constitution? Better look closer at each one instead of listening to their rhetoric.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      September 27, 2011 @ 12:10 pm

      That is the best advice that anyone could ever give in MHO. 

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    • gthComment by gth
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

      SAnn, please name names and/or sources re Cain and . . .:

      Strong supporter of TARP and doesn’t favor auditing the Fed;

      Caves and says he’ll appoint Muslims to his administration and judgeships;

      What’s the American Competitiveness Council and ALEC;

      And finally, “I will continue to check out the candidates and what and who they are involved in and with.”

      Thanks.  Please do so.  And in the future maybe give us something we can really get our teeth into.  

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  14. RME KRNLComment by RME KRNL
    September 27, 2011 @ 12:11 pm

    Geez, at this early stage, who CARES if Cain’s win was a protest vote or not? Polls often don’t mean much, straw polls mean even less, and any poll taken this early in the presidential race can only and at best serve as a winnowing indicator of who might have staying power, not necessarily who should be the Republican candidate. 

    We’ve still got over 13 months until the election, and that’s more than a lifetime in politics. 

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  15. carolComment by carol
    September 27, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

    I would agree with you.  I watched Herman Cain when he was a guest on the Glenn Beck program.  He seemed to me to be a conservative who also has common sense.  Not a “black man” with common sense but a man with common sense.  He seems to have risen above the fact that he was born a black man and views himself as a man created in the image of God.  One who would not use his race as a weapon whenever he feels as though the winds of change are not blowing his way with a huge chip on his shoulder.  I do not get that vibe from him at all.  He is a man, a business man with real common sense.  I like him.  At this point I really do not feel comfortable with making a decision this early on as to whom I would vote for, but he is on the right side of the balance sheet.  I also like Rick Perry but I am not sure, after watching him in the debates, that he is as strong as he seemed when he first announced that he was running for President.   I do know one thing, we the people need to make sure that Mr. Obama is a one-term president.  This country cannot afford to have this wicked man running the country into the ground for another 4 years.  Yes, I too would like to see this president impeached but I know that it will not happen.  It seems that it does not matter, Republican or Democrat, all backbones have been excised and common sense has escaped out the back door of Washington D.C.  November 2012 cannot come quick enough as far as I am concerned.

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  16. bornagain710Comment by bornagain710
    September 27, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

    No, the people finally heard someone with a workable plan. The man is Herman Cain. If you’ll notice 5 or more people on that debate platform picked Herman Cain for VP. He’s the man that can beat Obama.

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    • RobertRComment by RobertR
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

      Good catch.  I saw it at the time and thought it said a lot about Herman Cain.  Herman is a man’s man so to speak.  No crutches, no excuses, no undermining the other candidates.  I noticed a reference to that in earlier post and they were right.  He didn’t fall for the media’s nonsense of belittling others.  He’s got one of the most positive attitudes of anyone running.  In that sense he does remind me of Ronald Reagan.  He believes we can fix things and we can become a better nation for it.  He makes one feel good about what’s ahead.  Not like our current POTUS who sees doom and gloom and apologizes for everything good or bad that our nation has ever done.  Show me somebody who does something and I’ll show you someone who has made mistakes.  But don’t just look at the screwups, look at all the good this country has done and in some cases has tried to do.  We’re not perfect but we’re not what Obama says we are.  Cain could make America feel good about itself once again and we’re in desperate need of that feeling.  Positive thinking usually produces positive results. 

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    • Comment by LuLu
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

      That’s a good point, RobertR.  May I also say Cain is a woman’s man because many women are getting very tired of feminized juvenile men.
       
      Cain is very decisive, very adult, very capable, without the stiffness of Mitt Romney or the swagger of Rick Perry.
       
      But the most important thing is that he has answers. He doesn’t have to attack the views of other candidates because he firmly knows his own mind and where he stands.
       
      I’m afraid he doesn’t have enough name recognition to get the nomination but he would be an excellent choice for vice president, if not president. I would have a lot of confidence in having our country in this man’s hands.
       
      All that said, I still haven’t made my decision on the nominee but we could do a lot worse than Herman Cain.

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  17. swooperComment by swooper
    September 27, 2011 @ 1:30 pm

    I go back further than Mitt Romney. If I recall correctly, Romney’s dad, George, was head of American Motors around 50 years ago. AM featured underpowered, smallish, cheapish, tinny-ish vehicles that ran poorly, broke down often; and after a brief romance with the public, finally broke down for good [riddance], and haven’t been heard from since.

    Now George’s son, Mitt, hopes to succeed where his dad’s AM failed. Mitt’s already been governor of MA, where he’s trying mightily to play down his underpowered, tinny-ish vehicle, Romneycare.

    The Force (read: Republican Establishment) may end up being with Mitt, but as for me, I’ll go with a newer, genuinely conservative model named Herman.   

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    • The BobsterComment by The Bobster
      September 27, 2011 @ 4:28 pm

      It Mitt wins, he can outdo his daddy by running the two auto companies taken over by Obongo…or do we no longer own Chrysler?

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  18. fortyshooterComment by fortyshooter
    September 27, 2011 @ 1:35 pm

    I’ve always felt that it was a statement against the outrageous attitude of the alleged front-runners who act and look like stand-up cut-ut characters.   Of course, I would support Cain in the General; but I think we can do better than either him or the two former governors, perry and Romney.   I hope Sarah gets in.  Media need someone to pounce on because she scares the **** out of them.

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    • RobertRComment by RobertR
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

      No doubt Palin would keep the media hounds busy.  And that would be good for the party itself not to have our main candidates drug through the next 12+ months of mud.  

      BTW she’s got a new book coming out that list her accomplishments as governor.  It’s on the front of a business card so it’ll be easy to hand out to everybody…. <grin>   I’ve asked a few people to list her accomplishments over the past few weeks and nobody has.  Her only claim to fame is selling the state jet.  Her pipeline went kaput.  She has nothing else to point to as anything she accomplished as governor of Alaska.  Unless you give her credit for quitting 2 years into it…  The current governor stands a good chance of being the best one they’ve ever had.  He gets things done without pissing off everybody in the state.  He’s quiet, doesn’t draw attention to himself and works with other people.  He hasn’t stabbed anyone in the back which is probably one reason he’s successful.  Palin isn’t moving to Arizona because it’s a better place.  She’s done in AK and she knows it.   

      BTW she also scares the hell out of me…  She could do to the republican party what Obama has done to the demos.  We don’t need another problem in the white house.   

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:29 pm

      RobertR, Go here and see the list of Palins accomplishments: http://sirdent.hubpages.com/hub/Sarah-Palins-Accomplishments I would bet she has accomplished far more than you have ever even tried. Your liberal colors show in you choice words and an attempt to degrade her.
       
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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  19. cgretiredComment by cgretired
    September 27, 2011 @ 1:59 pm

    Gee.  A real businessman rather than a phony community organizer.  How refreshing!

    Go Cain!  As someone above said, perhaps this is an opportunity to show the world how a real black leader can actually lead and move this country forward out of the past four years of disaster.

    CGr.

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  20. Srini VaradarajanComment by Srini Varadarajan
    September 27, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

    In a way.  It is a protest against the treasonous policies of bh0, and taking Black votes for granted by Democruds.  And it also is a protest against pretenders (such as Perry, and ESPECIALLY Romney) for the real thing!

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    • RobertRComment by RobertR
      September 27, 2011 @ 2:26 pm

        Wouldn’t a debate between Herman Cain and Obama be a sight to see? Herman can think on his feet without a teleprompter. It would look like a teacher scolding a 1st grader. Herman already forgot more than Obama will ever know. Herman’s hitch as a radio anchor will come in handy down the road. Ronald Reagan’s abilities to ad lib came through for him many times. Nothing like standing there with the lights and camera on and having nothing to say, or just bungling it.

      To me Herman Cain is today’s Ronald Reagan – more ways than one.

      As for him taking the black vote.  He might take a few but the majority who voted for Obama voted for the democrat plank in the first place.  Quite a few were inspired to vote the first time because they could relate to a black man who was going to take from the rich and redistribute the goodies to them.  That didn’t happen so I question if those people will ever vote again.  Guarantee you that bunch will not vote for a black on the Republican ticket nor any Republican ever in their lifetime.  They see us as the boogeyman who wants to keep them downtrodden.  Just ask Jesse Jackson he’ll tell you all about it.  Sharpton will back him up…     

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  21. angel63Comment by angel63
    September 27, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

    Whoever wins the republican nomination, whoever is left standing AGAINST Obama is the person, IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF OBAMA, we HAVE TO VOTE FOR, otherwise, Obama will win.  That means also, NO THIRD PARTY VOTES, DO NOT give Obama ANY chance to win.  WAKE UP OR WE LOSE AMERICA FOR GOOD.

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    • cdrcodyComment by cdrcody
      September 28, 2011 @ 2:59 am

      I agree with you totally, Angel, you said it all.  We have to all vote for the Republican nominee no matter who it is.  Whether you like this or that potential candidate is beside the point.  We must vote for the Republican, period.  Or we will get four more years of the current loser-in-chief.   Incidentally, Cain is the one person the Democrats don’t want running.  They won’t be able to call him a racist, they will call him an Uncle Tom instead.

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  22. montie364Comment by montie364
    September 27, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

    Why the surprise we the people are tired of being LIED to by BOTH party’s. Herman Cain and Ron Paul would be the best thing for America in the last 60 years. 

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    • TRUTHTELLERComment by TRUTHTELLER
      September 27, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

      Herman Cain is a hardcased business man,  Ron paul is a nut case.  The former would be good for our country, the latter would be a disaster. 

      I wouldn’t put those two on the same planet, let alone, in the same sentence.

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    • BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
      September 29, 2011 @ 9:39 am

      TOTALLY agree with TRUTHTELLER about Ron Paul being a nut case…Get him off the stage……Herman Cain and Newt would be a wonderful pair, and I can see them moving our country into what it used to be…..Newt/Cain or visa versa….

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  23. jwilliamsComment by jwilliams
    September 27, 2011 @ 3:31 pm

    Let’s Not Consider this a Done Deal

    When I hear about all the heat that President Obama is taking from his base, especially comments like the recent ones from Maxine Waters or those that were reported on Fox News from a C.O.R.E., representative, I get excited.  It seems that the President’s base is becoming as disenchanted with him as are conservatives and I begin to have hope that this guy will be a one term President. I think a lot of conservatives feel the same way.  At the same time there is this gnawing concern just below the surface of my conciousness that tells me not to get too excited and reminds me just how slick this guy is.

    A good place to look for proof is in his meteroic rise in politics.  Consider when he ran for the presidency he never had anything more to hang his hat on other than being a community organizer or less than a full term senator.  He was able to hide most of his past and the liberal media was in the tank for him all the while.  Even when his associations with Reverund Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, big labor, shady lobbyists, etc., saw the light of day it didn’t make any difference.  Currently, as his latter day scandals like Fast and Furious and Solyndra have been revealed, his dismal ratings in the polls show an electorate dissolusioned more with his governance than with his corruption.  So it would be a big mistake to think this is going to be anything other than a close race and one real possible outcome is that he will be re-elected for a second term.  In that case all we can hope for is that we can pull his legislative teeth by taking control of both houses of congress.  Even that is going to depend on how conservatives behave between now and the election and especially how the independent voters percieve that behavior.

    So it may be that we have to do the best we can in 2012 and hopefully at least keep Obama at bay if he’s re-elected.  If we have any hope of taking the United States back to the vision of the founders, we must act with that goal in mind and not accept less than the type of candidates for office that will support that outcome.  If we cannot find such men or women, we must bite the bullet and wait until we do.  It took us from FDR until the present to get to this sad state of affairs and we may have to be prepared to stay focused for a number of election cycles to correct what ails us. It’s going to take great patience and great perseverance and I hope we are up to the task.  May God Bless America and guide us as He did our founders.

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  24. Daniel from TNComment by Daniel from TN
    September 27, 2011 @ 3:59 pm

    I believe some of the votes in the Florida Straw Poll were for Cain. I also believe some votes WERE against Perry. Perry went to the top almost immediately but his campaign is already unraveling; The “new” is quickly wearing off. He hurts his campaign every time he says he supports something the rest of the country opposes. Give Perry enough time to put his foot further and further in his mouth and his campaign will totally dissolve.
    Side Note. Even before he announced his candidacy, several Democratic organizations welcomed Perry to the race. That alone raised a red flag for me.

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    • TRUTHTELLERComment by TRUTHTELLER
      September 27, 2011 @ 4:23 pm

      Good point, Daniel.

      When the Libs like your candidate, they think of him as a loser, against the anointed one.

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  25. carolComment by carol
    September 27, 2011 @ 4:21 pm

    Might you be THE John McCain?  If so, I voted for you and Sarah Palin in ’08.  I happen to think that Herman Cain could very well be a first tier candidate.  He has the common sense that seems to be absent in Washington D.C.  I like him.

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  26. slingshot383Comment by slingshot383
    September 27, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

    Could Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich be THE dream team?  It seems that a majority belives that Newt is the most knowledgable, but carries baggage.  Having him running as VP to Herman Cain would be a super ticket with a wealth of knowledge and business sense.  Something to think about!

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    • jwilliamsComment by jwilliams
      September 28, 2011 @ 9:56 am

      I do think that Gingrich is the smartest guy on the block and would love to see him debate Obama.  I believe he would own the president if they debated.  I’m afraid Gingrich has too much baggage on the one hand and alternately is considered too much of an inside the beltway politician by others.  What do you think about a Cain / Rubio ticket?  I think that one would be potent and by the way, I would love to see a Cain / Obama debate.  My money would be on Cain.

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  27. handymanherbComment by handymanherb
    September 27, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

    Cain/West 2012

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  28. Spiritof76Comment by Spiritof76
    September 27, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

    I hope Herman Cain wins the Republican nomination. Romney and Perry are mostly RINOs and will say anyhting to get elected.  Mr. Cain will go after Obama with no holes barred going into the election in 2012, if we still have a country by then!

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  29. squirrellyComment by crowtoe
    September 28, 2011 @ 12:49 am

    I HEARD HERMAN SAY HE WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF AUDITING THE FED. I THINK HE WAS AGAINST DOING AWAY W/IT.  HE DID SERVE ON ONE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARDS IN THE MID WEST, BUT I DON’T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM.  IT JUST EXPANDS HIS RESUME .  HE HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL MORE THAN JUST BE CEO OF GODFATHER’S PIZZA. 
    AS FOR HIS LACK OF NAME RECOGNITION, GET BUSY.  TALK HIM UP ON BLOGS, FACEBOOK TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY.  CALL TALK SHOWS AND WRITE LETTERS TO THE EDITOR. ALL SHOWING SUPPORT FOR CAIN.

    THE FACT THAT HE STICKS TO THE PROBLEMS AND THE SOLUTIONS HE HAS COME UP WITH AS OPPOSED TO ATTACKING HIS COMPETITION, IS ADMIRABLE AND SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE MAN’S CHARACTER.    
    CAIN ALSO WON THE STRAW POLL AT THE WESTERN CONSERVATIVE SUMMIT ON JULY 31 IN DENVER BY AN EVEN GREATER MARGIN THAN THE FLORIDA POLL.  PERRY AND SANTOREM HAD BOTH BEEN SPEAKERS THERE AND ROMNEY HAD BEEN REPRESENTED.

    ALL OF YOU FOLKS WHO LIKE AND SUPPORT HERMAN NEED TO SEND 10 BUCKS OR MORE TO HIS CAMPAIGN.  HE HAS SPENT VERY LITTLE, BUT NEEDS FINANCIAL SUPPORT SINCE THE REPUBLICAN BIG SHOTS AND THE FOX TALKING HEADS KEEP DIMINISHING HIS VIABILITY AS A SERIOUS CANDIDATE.  WE, THE PEOPLE, GET TO CHOOSE, NOT THE PARTY BIG WIGS!  WOULDN’T YOU JUST LOVE TO SEE HIM DEBATE THE LIAR IN CHIEF?
      

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  30. GladysMPComment by GladysMP
    September 28, 2011 @ 12:50 am

    I have said that I would vote for whomever becomes the Republican nominee because of the sorry excuse we currently have for a prexy, but after watching the debates I feel that Romney is as cocky and self-certered as Obama.  I am afraid I would have to hold my nose to vote for Romney.  All of  the other candidates seem to possess some humility, but certainly not Romney.  He doesn’t seem to know the meaning of the word.  Perry has admitted making some mistakes, but Romney?  He thinks he is omnipotent.  He reminds me of a saying my grandmother used to make about conceited people:  “I wish I could buy him for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.”  That is how I feel about Romney.  If you don’t believe he is cocky, listen to him speak.         

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  31. jwilliamsComment by jwilliams
    September 28, 2011 @ 7:50 am

    I can guarantee that there is not a person on the earth that wants Obama to be a one term president more that me.  I personally feel he’s done more damage to the United States in less than one term than anything or anyone in our history.  At the end of the day he will make Jimmy Carter look like Abe Lincoln.

    That said, I’ve seen a lot of comments here that suggest we should vote for the Republican candidate regardless of who he or she is.  I agree that we must have solidarity in our vote or otherwise we don’t have the best chance of sending the Obamas back to Chicago in 2012.  At the same time I think we need to make sure that whoever the conservative candidate is that he or she is just not another career politician that will pander to Tea Party concerns, which are popular today and rightfully so, and then be just another scracth my back career politician after the election. 

    The selection process under way right now is where we have to do the hard work of making sure we get the right person on the ticket.  For me right now that right person is Herman Cain and the time to get behind him, shore him up and make sure he can take on Obama is now.  Cain is the type candidate the founders had in mind, a business person that would come to Washington and serve his country for one or two terms and go back to his business.  While he is the right person to me, he does not have the money or the organization to take on the DNC machine in the campaign.  Mr. Cain needs the most help from us now if he is to be successful.

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  32. KarenComment by Karen
    September 28, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

    I heard Herman Cain speak at a tea party rally in Madison WI while the progressives were vandaling our capital and ‘shouting down’ any ideas except their own.   I had never heard of Herman Cain before and ever since that day HE has been my first choice for president. Honest, decent human being, intelligent, thougthful.   I pray that he is the candidate or a VP.  !

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  33. BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
    September 28, 2011 @ 9:34 pm

    I wonder why this hasn’t been revealed by the MSM?? I just saw it on a FB page and I went Hmmmm….Anybody know anything about this??
    http://atlantapost.com/2011/05/25/a-real-reason-to-be-mad-at-herman-cain/

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    • Comment by LuLu
      September 28, 2011 @ 9:47 pm

      Probably because there’s nothing to it. Mother Jones is a far left publication and it’s obviously written by a pro-union, anti-business supporter. When in doubt put the name of the group or the site into your search engine and take a look at it.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      September 29, 2011 @ 8:32 am

      You are right LuLu it is an ultra liberal publication and the author J. Smith only writes from the liberal view point. Just take some time and read some of his stories BUCKEYEFAN and see for yourself.
       
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
      September 29, 2011 @ 10:02 am

      Well that didn’t answer my question LuLu……I didn’t ask about the writer i asked if anyone knows anything about the accusation, if it is true…Perhaps I should have asked if anyone knows where I can find info on this…..I don’t like liberal content either, but, sometimes they tell the truth, albeit, not often..I am not in anyway trying to diminish Mr. Cain’s reputation, as I highly respect this man,  but I do want to know all I can about each and every candidate…Most of them are like an open book on reputation, accomplishments or lack there of….I have knowledge of Mother Jones, but since it was published in an Atlanta newspaper, I thought perhaps someone would know the validity of it..I will keep searching beyond this article, just thought I could get some knowledgeable information about this from someone on here….Thanks ONEWILDMAN, I really wasn’t needing to research the author, as I said, I thought perhaps someone could steer me to the right fact based information that I was seeking….AND I also agree, IMPEACH OBAMA now….But I still think much research is needed on every candidate….I refuse to vote on the advice of MSM, and prefer to know the truths and untruths of all….Thanks for your comments folks…

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      September 29, 2011 @ 10:46 am

      buckeyefan, here is more info:

      Quote unknown –

      Herman Cain serves on the board of directors for Utilicorp United Inc. from 1992 to 2003. Aquila Energy Corp.–as PSI Inc. was later renamed–was made a subsidiary of UtiliCorp, and in addition to its marketing functions, expanded into such related, but unregulated, areas as natural gas storage and transmission. By 1990 Aquila was responsible for 21 percent of UtiliCorp’s earnings.



      In1992, Congress enacted the Energy Policy Act. This legislation allowed
      utilities and other entities to build electric generators and to sell
      the power produced at unregulated prices on the wholesale market. In
      doing so, it unleashed a series of changes in the previously staid
      utility industry unmatched since its birth about a century previously.
      This also lead to the Emergence of Enron and other energy trading
      companies competing in the natural gas market for electric generation.
      Natural gas prices doubled November 2000, and then crashed by February
      2001.

      In December of 2000, Utilicorp announced a plan to spin
      off Aquila, and had sold off 20% in stock. However after the crash of
      the NG prices in 2001, Aquila started to collapse without the structure
      of Utilicorp. So Utilicorp announced it would buy back stock in Aquila
      to try and save it. This hit the entire company in both stock and net
      worth. This was during the same time Enron went down in flames.

      The
      lawsuit against Aquila was a result of employees wanting to invest too
      much of their matching stock into the company, which was showing huge
      returns. The employee retirement fund had over 50% of it’s holding in
      company stock, but regulations from 1933 was supposed to limit this to
      no more than 20%. Employees in the lawsuit claim that the company
      either encouraged them or didn’t prevent them from investing too much
      directly into the company.

      The board of directors had separated
      itself into committees to oversee different aspects of the company early
      on. Herman Cain was the chairman of the compensation committee that
      oversaw pay and bonus’ for executives and other positions. The bonuses
      that he approved were in line for the time when the entire company was
      seeing high profits in the late 90′s. Bonus’s are based on the previous
      year performance. The financial problem with Aquila didn’t show up
      until mid 2001 during the recession.

      There was a Pension and
      Benefits committee and a retirement committee. Herman Cain was not on
      either one of those. Thus Cain didn’t come across the activity and
      paperwork to see what was going on with these committees. The lawsuit
      that was filed named all sorts of people at the top even if they didn’t
      have basic oversight at issue with the lawsuit. Class action lawsuits
      tend to always do this.

      TheMotherJones article author took a few general details and then made all
      sorts of claims that weren’t in the lawsuit they referenced. It is
      typical of liberal writers being lazy. Here is the link to the lawsuit
      paperwork.

      http://storify.com/karl173/the-truth-behind-aquila-and-herman-cain
       
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
      September 29, 2011 @ 11:15 am

      Thank you for the info ONEWILDMAN…That is what I was looking for was some info other than the one I posted, as it came from a Cain disliker..I have found the following article as well….Reading what you posted and this one, I feel a little more comfortable with Mr. Cain’s background….I will still keep an open mind about him and every candidate until the day we go to vote, and will make no concrete decisions until then….Thanks again…I appreciate all the backgrounds of our candidates that I can gather…..
      http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=638159&ticker=WHR:US&previousCapId=311595&previousTitle=Aquila%20Inc.

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    • Comment by LuLu
      September 29, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

      Well, pardon me. Source is very important to me but I won’t spend time pointing that out to you next time.

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  34. BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
    September 28, 2011 @ 9:36 pm

    Will the real GOP candidate please stand up???

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  35. BUCKEYEFANComment by BUCKEYEFAN
    September 29, 2011 @ 2:42 pm

    Sorry you took offense LuLu…..Didn’t mean it that way….I knew the source, and am aware of Mother Jone’s liberal writings…..What I wanted to know, and I should have been clearer I suppose, was besides this source, did anyone know what if anything was behind it, and if any part of it could be true….I did Google and came up with a few other sources, I just wanted some input from others as to what they knew…..

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  36. aclausenComment by aclausen
    September 30, 2011 @ 8:04 am

    This was NOT a protest vote. I was in contact with people who were actually down at the straw poll in person. They were saying people adored Cain! He made the most sense and they connected with him. Plus, these people paid money to vote for their favorite. I’m sure they wouldnt want to waste it. Also, if it were a protest vote, why overwhelmingly would they choose Cain? There are 6 other candidates to choose from other than Romney or Perry. They all flocked to Cain showing that he deserved to win! Donate here to show your support to Mr. Cain and let him know that you stand with him! https://www.hermancain.com/donate#fid=FUND22922&sc=HCARL3Q

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    October 16, 2011 @ 9:19 pm

    I think Herman Cain’s win is a reflection of him being the best Conservative candidate in the race.

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