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Fake Sick Notes and Dems in Hiding... The Latest from Wisconsin

By Bobby Eberle

Need a note from your doctor so you can continue protesting the Wisconsin budget bill? No problem. Now there are "doctors" on the street corners of the state capitol passing out "sick notes" to whomever needs them. Meanwhile, 14 Democrat legislators continue to remain in hiding, having fled the state rather than fulfill their duties to debate and vote on measures Republican Gov. Scott Walker thinks will help save the state budget.

Fox News reports that "as thousands of protesters on both sides of an epic budget standoff in Wisconsin faced off Saturday at the Capitol, alleged doctors were handing out 'fake' sick notes to protesters -- allowing them to call in sick while the budget impasse continues."

Protesters told Fox News they obtained the notes from alleged doctors standing on street corners handing them out to whomever asked. The protesters said doctors did not examine or inquire about their current health condition before passing the notes out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XDVsKaIfXU

All of this is due to the uproar caused by Gov. Walker's latest budget proposal. In order to help address the state budget deficit, the budget proposal asks state workers to "contribute more to their health care and pension costs." The bill also "largely eliminates their collective bargaining rights." What Walker is trying to do is address the unsustainable benefits packages that has been negotiated by the state unions over time. Much like on the national scene with Social Security and Medicare, these state entitlements are breaking the bank. Walker is asking state workers to contribute to their pensions, just like private citizens do with their 401(k)s.

Watch the latest video at video.foxnews.com

The Wisconsin State Senate has 33 seats, 19 of them held by Republicans. Most state bills can be passed with a simple majority, and thus there are plans for the legislature to get back to work on Tuesday. However, as noted in a follow-up story on Fox News, the budget-repair bill they have been blocking requires a quorum of 20 senators to pass, while other measures require only a simple majority of the chamber's 33 members."

Of course, Barack Obama has felt the need to step into Wisconsin's business by attacking the budget proposal and calling it "an assault on unions." Obama advocacy group, Organizing for America, "has bused in some of the nearly 70,000 protesters Saturday." It's a move that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called "inappropriate." The Hill reports on Graham's comments over the weekend in which he said, "When the president talks about Wisconsin I think that really is inappropriate. The governor of Wisconsin is doing what he campaigned on ... there was an election on his proposals and he won."

In response to Obama's comments, Gov. Walker said, "The president should stay focused on fixing the federal deficit." Remember that Obama budget? The one that increases spending, borrows about 40 cents out of every dollar spent, and adds to the national debt. Walker is making the tough choices that Obama avoids.

Walker also said this weekend that Wisconsin "potentially could be leading the way when it comes to budgetary and fiscal reform in this country." He is right. Other legislators need to take notice. When we are in a fiscal mess of historic proportions, we simply need to cut spending. Period. Maybe Wisconsin battles will be the shot heard around the country.

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  1. jdani2011Comment by jdani2011
    February 21, 2011 @ 9:02 am

    I would suggest that the legislature pass a non-funding bill requiring legislators to be at work, be verifiable ill or conducting legitimate state work at another location, or resign.  They are not interested in carrying out their responsibilities so they should not be considered legitimate legislators.  Give them 7 or 14 days then they loose their seat.  The Governor then replaces them as if they had died or resigned.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      February 21, 2011 @ 10:01 am

      Great idea! Of course, there are those doctors who are willing to sign their excuses. I would like those docs names to be posted so we can avoid frequenting their offices.

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    • Double AceComment by Double Ace
      February 21, 2011 @ 10:11 am

      To Godsgirl: Here is a list of some of the doctors involved. Note they seem to be connected to the University of Wisconsin.

      Dr. Louis Sanner -Northeast Family Medical Center –  3209 Dryden Drive —  Madison, WI, 53704 — (608) 241-9020
      Dr. James H Shropshire MD  –5001 Monona Drive–Monona, WI, 53716-2636 – (608)222-8779
      Bernard F. Micke, MD – UW Health Odana Clinic — 5618 Odana Road –Madison, WI, 53719 – (608) 274-1100
      Hanna Keevil, M.D.  UW Health Odana Clinic — 5618 Odana Road — Madison, WI, 53719 – (608) 274-1100

      Note: The University of Wisconsin Medical School says it is investigating doctors from its program that were writing “permission” slips. Some of the doctors listed above are UW physicians.

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    • loribmeComment by loribme
      February 21, 2011 @ 10:38 am

      Those doctors are knowingly and willingly falsifying records. 
      Their license to practice medicine should be yanked.

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    • nwoodsComment by nwoods
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:39 am

      What these Family Practice physicians in Madison have done is to falsify medical records for individuals who are not their patients and who they have not examined.  This is malpractice and as such is reportable to the WI Department of Regulation and Licensing.  I would recommend that anyone who is as disturbed about their actions as I am report them to DRL at http://www.drl.state.wi.us/  

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    • BillComment by Bill
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:19 pm

      Is’nt it a illeagle in most states to falsify medical records. Why not get some people that are willing to testify to no exam to get these fake sick slips?
        It could be made illeagle to boycot legislative sessions by a simple majority, then there would be leagle grounds to bring the cowards in to vote like they were electid to do.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      February 21, 2011 @ 6:27 pm

      If those docs are affilitated with the U of W and they are public employees, well, there is some more money saved – they could be fired.

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    • ggfilthyComment by ggfilthy
      December 26, 2013 @ 3:52 pm

      Just tell them the same thing I tell my employees…I don’t want a doctors excuse… I don’t want to know how many times you puked… I don’t even want to know if your sick….Just tell me your not coming in. If you are NOT here enough or not responsible for your job your fired… end of discussion! If you are that sick…that much…then you need to change your life style. A bill needs to be past requiring a minimum amount of presents… or you are dismissed.

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  2. onewildmanComment by onewildman
    February 21, 2011 @ 9:08 am

    Any Doctor who gives out a sick note to any of these Democrats should charged with fraud against the state of Wisconsin. On top of that these Doctors need to be reviewed by the Medical Board. That being said these Government workers need to shut up and do their share. It is time that the non government workers stop being the ones to always have to tighten their belts and sacrifice. There is no reason that in these hard time that government workers get a free pass while we pay for them. These same people are the ones pointing fingers at corporations and their “Golden Parachutes” when in fact that is exactly what they have. They are hypocrites! They protest the government as if it were a business. It is not it is the people they hurt and they absolutely do not care that We The People are the ones that they hurt, not the government. If we continue to give to these people and their corrupt unions who only care about the money they can take and have no regards about the fact that We The People suffer. We the non government will all be the working poor and when we reach that point there will be complete economic collapse as the working poor will stop working because they will be slaves to the government and all who are employed by it.
     
    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      February 21, 2011 @ 10:02 am

      I also think it is past time for lawmakers salaries and perks to be reviewed – they, too, should pay more of their healthcare premiums, etc. Perhaps this could be offered as a compromise by Governor Walker.

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  3. godsgirlComment by godsgirl
    February 21, 2011 @ 9:59 am

    In the private sector, if you don’t show up for work, that is called a “no call – no show” and it is a fireable offense. I would have lost my job 5 days ago. That is exactly what should happen to the Democratic lawmakers who have been given safe harbor by the lovely state of Illinois, that great bastion of freedom.The only thing more disgusting than the public employees who drain my pocketbook for their living and are unwilling to back down on their demands are the “lawmakers” who are not willing to do their jobs. That means that the public is paying them to not go to work – no wonder those of us who pay taxes are rising up against this nonsense.

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    • BillComment by Bill
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:31 pm

      I think the public employees have a right to protest & voice their opinion, however they should not have the right to do it during the time the taxpaiers are paying them to work. The schools should fire anyone that dose not report to work. If the fired teachers want their job back they would start as new hires just like anyone eles that applies to fill the vacency. The students that are absent should be notified that failure to show up will be UNEXCUSED Absence.

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  4. Double AceComment by Double Ace
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:01 am

    Why don’t the state pull the medical liscense of people who are willing to lie, cheat and steal. I certainly wouldn’t want to be treated by someone with so little integrity. I want someone whom I can trust. As for the so-called Democratic legislators, Give them warning to report to work and anyone failing to do so is removed from office and new people are appointed. People who actually want to represent the people. Why can’t the State senate just proceed with hearings and those who aren’t present will not have a say in what is happening. Personally I think they should take disciplinary actions against any and all teachers who skipped classes to attend these protests, then remove them from their positions and replace them with people who actually want to teach. These teachers, by their actions are teaching the students all the wrong things.

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    • JambleComment by Jamble
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

      I am a retired teacher and I couldn’t agree more. I am appalled that teachers would abandon the classroom to go out and act like a howling mob. Worse still, they encouraged their students to go along with it.
      What sort of example are they setting?
      As for the doctors who signed the phony sick notes, they should lose their medical licenses, imo.

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    • wallybluComment by wallyblu
      February 21, 2011 @ 3:29 pm

      Just a question, aren’t these teachers and students the same ones who are protesting increased tuition?

      Let’s see increase the cost and lower the price, how logical.

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  5. F.R. DuplantierComment by F.R. Duplantier
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:03 am

    TODAY’S LESSON
    “I don’t care if your dad’s out of work
    Or state budgets are going berserk:
    I’m a privileged creature,
    A public school teacher,
    An incompetent, overpaid jerk.”
    (politickles.com)

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

      When you call names, you loose credibility. It adds nothing to the conversation. It is the difference between anger and opinion. When you call names, conversation stops. My dad taught me that when I was ten.

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    • JambleComment by Jamble
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

      You are correct lightwriter, Duplantier has no credibility.

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    • sage84Comment by sage84
      February 21, 2011 @ 7:31 pm

      Lightwriter:
      You can try this mnemonic to remember the difference between these two words:
      Loose had an o that was loose. When it lost the second o, it became lose.
      This can help you to associate the word with one o with the idea of loss, linking spelling and meaning.

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    • JamesMarineComment by JamesMarine
      February 25, 2011 @ 2:30 pm

      Sage, that was classic!  But, if you tell me you’re a school teacher I’ll chamber a round.

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 25, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

      How about this? A loose noose never hurt a loser. You’ll never write it as A loose nose never… without catching yourself. :+}

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  6. Old BillComment by Old Bill
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:05 am

    RE THE BUSSED IN PROTESTERS Senator Graham is absolutely right this is inappropriate on the behalf or BHO as he has more on his own plate than he is able to deal with.  This is a Wisconsin problem and should be dealt with by the Government of the State.  That is Governer Walker and the Wisconsin Legislature.
    The evasion tactics of the Democratic Legislators is reprehensible, and deserves harsh action.
    As to the Doctors on the street corner run their names through the license agency of the state and if not found to be a registered MD throw the excuses out.

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    • loribmeComment by loribme
      February 21, 2011 @ 10:41 am

      FYI, Senator Graham rarely gets anything right.  He is my senator.  I am surprised to see him take a stand in favor of American citizens.  I am grateful he did say what he did but I still do not like him as my senator.

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  7. irishflyer71Comment by irishflyer71
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:21 am

    Whatever happened to separation of Federal versus State governance?  From a pragmatic standpoint, even comments may be construed as Federal officials interferring in State governance.  Perhaps unable to solve Federal problems Federal officials possess excess time allowing them to involve themselves in State governance.

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:43 pm

      Did Obama influence the outcome of the Super Bowl by making a prediction? When people have their rights trampled on, the president should speak out whether it is in Egypt or Madison. By the way, he froze the wages of federal employees. I heard no cheers on this forum.

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    • soccerreffComment by soccerreff
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:35 pm

      By the way, he froze the wages of federal employees. I heard no cheers on this forum.
      Yes, he did freeze it after raising it by about 80%. If he so worried about peoples right being trampled on why does he not speak out about those slandering the Tea Party activists?

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 22, 2011 @ 6:56 am

      soccerreff LIES – It’s probably kind of obvious to everyone out there that federal EEs have not seen an 80% rise in wages in 10 years let alone during Obama’s time in office. STOP with the BS “facts” posted just to get people riled up.

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  8. JDZComment by JDZ
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:33 am

    I thought Gov Walker handled a tough interview with Chris Wallace extremely well and I am proud of him and the other Governors that are taking on this budget and union problem in spite of the lack of support from the federal government.  President Obama should not have got involved in the Wisconsin issue but, it shows where his sympathies lie and it is not with the majority of Americans who pay taxes.

    The idea of allowing public service unions to organize was a mistake, and then to further allow them to have collective bargaining was a bigger mistake, and we now see what it can lead to and why we have to do something about it.  I can rationalize the police and fire department employees having some independent employee representation because of the nature of these jobs.  These jobs are critical and they are dangerous, and so it can be said that it is good to have some form (union or arbitration) to keep the government from taking advantage of these critical public service employees.

    That being said, the rest of those in public service positions need no union representation and that needs to be changed. None of the balance of the jobs, like teachers, garbage collectors, street maintenance, government administration, etc. are any different then the “at will” jobs of most Americans, and do not need a union to represent them and “strong arm” our politicians and government leaders into unrealistic levels of salaries and benefits.  And, what happens, as you all know, if they do not get their way, they do not pick up the garbage, or fix potholes, or will call in sick and not show up at the schools to teach our kids, etc.  These are important public service needs that they are paid to fulfill, but are not the kind of jobs, like police, fireman, miners, steel workers, etc. that are dangerous jobs that need some independent employee representation to make sure their work environments are safe, etc.

    Keep at it Governor Walker, we need Wisconsin to break the ice so that we can fix this problem across the country, in spite of President Obama.

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  9. SapientComment by Sapient
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:54 am

    This is most revealing.

    Not only are they willing to ask the tax payer to foot the bill for exorbitant pay and benefits unheard of in the private sector, they want to do the protest on the tax payer’s nickel as well…and are willing to lie to do it.
     
    When someone turns in a fraudulent sick leave notice, that is falsifying a government document where I come from.
     
    And friend, if the T Party or other supporters of the Governor are willing to do the same…shame on them and they should be treated accordingly.
     
    This is about honesty, pure and simple.
    God bless

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  10. Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
    February 21, 2011 @ 10:58 am

    We should be thanking all these people………………they are highlighting the problem existing in all states with their public employees unions. I live in a blue state and have no hope our government will take this sort of action but I applaud it as do all people with any fiscal responsibility. That would include the people who voted in last November’s landslide Republican House election and all those who changed their governors as well. My state came close and might even do it the next time.
     
    The Demonrats in Wisconsin who are hiding out have managed to defecate in their own hats by running away and if they continue hiding out, they shall have effectively pulled those hats right down over their ears. The last legislators to pull this stunt were from Texas……….they ran away to Oklahoma and those actions resulted in turning a Democrat State House of representatives into a Republican legislature which the left has not been able to get back!

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    • StevenComment by Steven
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:42 am

      The turning of those districts from Red to Blue sent quite a few people to jail because it was pretty much illegal.

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  11. scotpondComment by scotpond
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:02 am

    You can sanction the MDs. Can I sue the guy who made the video shown on FOX news who says “I’m pro government. I went to the rally carrying my NAZI – HITLER sign”. Two signs among thousands and which ones do the media search out and focus on? There wasn’t a single hate sign at the Restore Sanity rally in DC. NOT a single one.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:44 am

      Scotpond you are a joke. Doctors lying is fraud no matter who the fraud is directed at. Yes there were hate signs at the Restore sanity but because the were directed at Palin, you probably did not see them as hate. As for your Nazi Hitler sign, I would assume that was not to support love or peace as it is completely unacceptable to compare people to Hitler who don’t even come close to least of the atrocities committed in Hitlers name. And why would you not think that the worst of the worst not be singled out and focus on by the media? Are you that dumb or naive? You don’t carry a sign like that unless you want to be noticed.
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:38 pm

      Onewildman, you clearly were not at the Restore Sanity Rally. It was exactly as advertised. No anger. Very positive with the theme that we work with many people with different points of view every day and get the job done. I was there, you were not. The joke is on you. Why are you such a hater?

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    • CharieComment by Charie
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:57 pm

      SC, have you seen any pictures on the MSM of their signs?  I have and you see no pix of these signs.  I saw one that had a picture of Governor Walker with crosshairs drawn over it.  There were also signs with filthy language on them.  If you say there were not rotten signs at Restore Sanity, I’ll call you a liar.  It’s what the Left thrives on and they can’t restrain themselves.

      I’m sure you can somehow equate doctors being unethical and probably illegal with one video showing a nazi/hitler sign.  There is such a thing as free speech in this country and the unions are getting more than their dollar’s worth right now.  They’re trashing the capitol building and taping up signs all over the marble walls and banisters.

      The AFL-CIO and UAW are planning how this week’s protest will go.  The buses are all ready to go.  I’m sure Trumka will be on the podium spouting his union lies and hyperbole.  Who knows?  There may actually be some teachers there.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 21, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

      Lifelighter so you were there and you saw every sign displayed. There were hundreds of signs over a vast area of space I doubt you saw them all and I’m not even sure you were there. Anyone can make that claim.I do know their were anti FOX and anti Palin signs. I saw these on TV and the internet. Nothing I said implied hate so I must then assume that your are a liar and hater. By the way scotpond was the one with the Nazi Hitler sign. If that is not a display of hate what is?
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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    • Comment by LuLu
      February 21, 2011 @ 3:00 pm

      Really?  Not a single hate sign at the so-called Sanity Rally?
       
      Want to see the signs from that rally?  Go here.  http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-100-best-signs-at-the-rally-to-restore-sanity

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  12. swright712Comment by swright712
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:26 am

    Do we need more evidence than this that these unions are crooks and way out of control.  They falsify documents saying they are sick.  Now all non government employees are paying their salaries while they do anything but their jobs.  They need to be fired.  They need their document falsifying butts out in the real world where they receive pay like everyone else and where the employer can actually make them work.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:34 am

      If the teachers (and the word needs to be used loosely in this case) in Wisconsin keep up these shenanigans they should be fired. Gov. Walker could really send a message like Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. It’s really pathetic to see so many public servants acting so irresponsibly.

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  13. John E. NevolaComment by John E. Nevola
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:28 am

    It is curious how this President lauds the efforts of the Madison, Wisconsin protestors and rallies behind the Egyptians in Tahrir Square but admonishes the Tea Party rallies as promoting violence.
     
    Both the President and his lapdog mainstream media ignored the ugly signs in Madison and the beating/molesting of journalists in Egypt but were complicit in accusing talk-radio and tea party protests of inciting the shooting spree in Tucson.
     
    How is America supposed to solve the pressing problems of our times when our leader and the media have such an insidious agenda? 
     
    This President has decided that he will be a President only for the Left.  He will embrace their causes, fight their fights and intervene in issues that are none of his damn business in support of the Leftist agenda.  So be it.  I doubt there are enough on the Left to re-elect him.   Now let us see if the rest of the country still wants him to be President in 2012!
     
     
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  14. SAnnComment by SAnn
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:29 am

    Doctors? Or are they abortionists who hold a license to practice doctoring? I know no doctor in my life that would do something so against their oath. Their license should be revoked.

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  15. pypypypyComment by pypypypy
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:30 am

    Yes indeed, these doctors should be prosecuted for fraud. A doctor’s job is to practice medicine and cure ailments, NOT falsifying and handing out fake sick notes.

    I also agree that these 14 DemocRATs should be given a time to return to cast their votes. If not they should be replaced and so should the teachers. There are many more who are willing to take their jobs in this economy.

    My God, if the Republicans ever did what these 14 rats are doing, there would be an uproar. I am sure Mr Obama would have spoken out against them. Incidentally, what was it he said during the SOTU, about being civil?? So why is he using such word like “assault on the Unions” Does he think it is fair for the Unions to be skimming of taxpayers for their pensions that is simply unsustainable?? The Governor is merely “leveling the playing field” for tax payers.

    THe Governor should stay strong and hold steady. What he is asking is not unreasonable. If he does not nip this in the bud, things can only get worst and out of hand, like in Greece and France where the Unions there are so powerful that they can hold the country hostage, grinding things to a halt. Collective bargain is bad news esp in the public sector, and with Mr Obama behind them, they will effectively govern the United States.

    When Trade Unions were very powerful at one time in the UK, Mrs Thacther in a show down, took them down and cured the Brits of the British disease, the strike fever.

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  16. Daniel from TNComment by Daniel from TN
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:31 am

    Here’s a suggestion for Governor Walker. After the Democrats hiding in Illinois have been there 30 consecutive days, he should declare that they have established residence in another state, declare them ineligible to hold office in Wisconsin as a result of their new residence, and call for special elections to replace them.
    As for fake sick notes for teachers here’s a possible suggestion. Local systems usually have a clause in teacher contracts that gives school boards the authority to require “sick” teachers to visit specific doctors for excuse notes. This option should be exercised immediately, if it exists.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:56 am

      I thought we should have shut down the Texas borders when our Dems left several years ago and not let them back in the state. I like your idea about establishing residence by being gone more than 30 days.
       
      As far as the doctors writing notes, there are always crooked doctors out there willing to do anything for money. Look at the quacks that take care of the disability claims. The only patients they ever deal with is people suing their employer for disability.

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    • BillComment by Bill
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:28 pm

      Or charged with desertion.

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  17. StevenComment by Steven
    February 21, 2011 @ 11:48 am

    This issue again shows why the Right will never be taken seriously.  Just look at the comments about removing the politicians for standing up for what they believe in.  Yes they left the state to avoid the vote being able to take place. They did so because they know even if they fight their hardest the rubber stampers will just vote yes with out even attempting compromise.
    Its kind of like when the Right whispers “Filibuster” to kill a bill even the ones they sponsor.
    Sure the Tea Party is having a mild amount of success but its also doing its fair share of damage by insisting it get its way 100% of the time.  Politics is about compromise.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:59 am

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:00 pm

      They are not standing up for what believe, they are running like cowards. They care nothing about the real people of the state and it’s time for the workers of that state to say we have had enough of the legal extortion used by the Unions to get what they want. It boils down to 25,000 state employees vs 5,600,000 citizens who are paying the bills. It’s not right for these government employees to live high on the hog while the people struggle to make it day to day. It’s time for government employees to do their share. As far as I’m concerned the Governor can start firing them as soon as he wants. There are many quantified who are willing to take their place for a fare wage and benefits.
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:01 pm

      Compromise didn’t serve us so well the last time the Republicans were in control. That is why they got voted out of office. And don’t think the Democrats didn’t use the filibuster when they were in the minority. “W” could barely get any judges confirmed because of the Democrats. The Republicans have let two of Obama’s extremely radical Supreme Court nominees (lifetime appointment) skate through in the name of compromise. Compromise is highly overrated. The Democrats are only willing to do it when they are in the minority.
       
      I can’t think of another example like this where Republicans protested their minority status by leaving the state. Yet this is the second time Democrats have pulled a stunt like this.

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:42 pm

      Amen. Way to go Steven. Don’t you hate being the voice of reason and common sense on a blog filled with lame opinions and insults. Thought I would let you know that you are not alone.

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    • pypypypyComment by pypypypy
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

      U know Steven, if a person works in the private sector, refuses to do his/her job and taking fake sick leave, their employment would be terminated.

      If these so call politicians are not doing their jobs (which they clearly are not) then they should not be allowed to stay in office. I would like to know whose money they are using to pay for their food and lodgings in IL. If they are using taxpayers money, they should be prosecuted for it because I dont think running away and refusing to cast a vote can be classified as official business. 

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    • BillComment by Bill
      February 21, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

      It would be just as bad if the right pulled the same prank. THESE PEOPLE WERE ELECTED  to represent their districts not to hide from their duties. If theyy do not want to do their job why did they run for the office. The congress in Wiscon only needs a majority present to vote on a non-funding bill, They should pass a law making it illeagle for legislators to avoid doing their duty.  Buy the way Filibuster is leagle and is covered in the laws of both Federal & Stat. If they want to do things the correct way I applad them, but hiding out or voteing present is just plain Derilection.

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      February 21, 2011 @ 2:47 pm

      They have effectively abrogated their duty and are not doing the job for which they are being paid. Daniel from TN is right, they need to be removed if they wish to reside in another state.
       
      And, by the way, why do you not remove yourself from this site. I would imagine, since we are talking about taking votes, you would lose hands down if a vote were taken to kick you off.

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  18. CharieComment by Charie
    February 21, 2011 @ 12:31 pm

    Yeh, yeah, Steven.  The Right is so not taken seriously that they swept most of the House, Senate and governors seats in the country.  In Wisconsin they swept the Assembly, Senate and governorship.  Not a blip on the horizon.  You talk silly.

    As far as I can tell, all those doctors work for the University of Wisconsin.  There are two docs listed as working in Odana.  Odana is an Indian town in the Bad River reservation on Lake Superior so they came a long way to do their dirty work.

    You can talk all you want about this “sick out” being by the teachers’ union but this is being run by the AFL-CIO and AUW which, the last time I heard, were not public unions.

    Just heard on the radio that that Green Bay Packers may be Super Bowl Champions but the Democrat state Senators have the best running game.

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  19. PWSOpinionComment by PWSOpinion
    February 21, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

    Wouldn’t it be considered conspiracy to commit fraud for a Dr. to provide a note to allow a worker to receive a note allowing them to be out sick and collect funds from the School District, Agency or entity that pay their salaries?

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  20. BobinmsComment by Bobinms
    February 21, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

    This situation can be summed in just a few words.
    Unscrupulous .
    The ends justify the means.
    The rules do not apply to me.

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 12:51 pm

      You are talking about the Republican governor, wright? :)

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      February 21, 2011 @ 2:54 pm

      My, my, lightwriter comments…………….perhaps you should learn to spell or is it just that you have problems with homophones, am I right, wright or rite?
       
      I predict there will be even fewer Democrats serving in the Wisconsin legislature after the next election.

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    • Comment by LuLu
      February 21, 2011 @ 3:18 pm

      Obviously he had a public school teacher from Wisconsin, Dingbat.

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    • sage84Comment by sage84
      February 21, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

      Lightintheloafers~ please use your assistive technology devices before posting!

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  21. donComment by don
    February 21, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

    Is a lying, cheating, stealing union creep any better because they claim to be a teacher?  Exactly what is a teacher supposed to be teaching?  Are their students now permitted to lie, cheat and steal rather than study and take legitimate tests? 

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    • JambleComment by Jamble
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

      I am a teacher and I agree.

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  22. CharieComment by Charie
    February 21, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

    There have been a lot of calls in to the Milwaukee radio stations regarding this.  Quite a few people who were there for a counter-protest got in line for these doctor’s excuses so there’s a lot of proof, including signatures and doctor’s license numbers.  Their faces are all over the internet so there’s no way they can say they weren’t doing this unethical thing.  These doctors (and they are all real doctors) should be stripped of their medical licenses.

    Maybe they’ll be able to get jobs on the “death panels” from their friend Obama.  ROTFLMAO  He has become personally involved as has his organization.

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  23. lightwriterComment by lightwriter
    February 21, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

    I couldn’t sleep last night. I have been following the Madison conflict on the news and read the opinion of some of my friends on Facebook. That set my head spinning until I wrote a three-page essay for a blog that I will be posting soon. The Wisconsin conflict between labor and the governor is a very big deal. This is not a basketball game where you root for your side and go home happy or sad based on the outcome. This is a serious moment in history. What we are witnessing now, is equivalent to “going nuclear.” This is not a battle between conservatives and liberals, Democrats and Republicans, or union and non-union. It is a battle between people who make things and provide services and those who gather wealth and power by gambling on the labor of others. The “Corporates” are great at turning us against each other while they gain more and more power. They own most of our elected leaders, much of the media, and have taken over the agendas of many special interest groups while airing clever commercials to discredit those that are in conflict with their prime goal of growing in wealth and power. They do it all with the wealth that they have acquired by picking the fruits of the labor of the rest of us. When the “Citizens United” decision came down from the Supreme Court, the “Corporates” took a giant step forward in being able to control nearly every election and every issue in this country. The “Corporates” only have one enemy left that is powerful enough to counter them. The buffer between their ambition and the wellbeing of the average American citizen is the labor unions. Even in their diminished strength, they are a thorn in the side of the “Corporates.”
     
    For my “right-leaning” friends who tell stories of union abuse, I can match you three to one with stories of abuse of labor throughout our history. I hope you can see that our self-interest and fear of the “other” is being taken advantage of by those who wish to manipulate us for their own purposes. We cannot band together for our common good with those that are “the other.” They divide us as pro-gun vs. anti-gun, religious vs. non-religious, my religion vs. your religion, pro-life vs. pro-choice, union workers vs. non-union workers, and on and on. For the love of whatever god you believe in or don’t – wake-up from your media-induced comas. Join our brothers and sisters who are fighting for their right to join together so that their voices can be heard. When they can no longer be heard, we all loose. “United we stand, divided we fall.”

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    • BillComment by Bill
      February 21, 2011 @ 2:21 pm

      This is all true. You are just reading the comments of the biggest UNION of all: TAX PAYERS. They have only ONE union represintive the VOTE. The most recent vote was cast in November & at this rate will probably be reinforced in November 2012. Just as the Left ruled from 2006 until 2011 the truth still rings clear. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSIQUENCES!

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    • Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
      February 21, 2011 @ 3:29 pm

      That was quite a rant……….now would you please explain what the bloody hell corporations have to do with PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS. Public employees are paid by John Q Citizen…..you and me and everyone else who pays taxes. We’re tired of these greedy disingenuous public employee union members who earn better salaries than those who pay them (us) and who have far better retirement plans, which again WE pay for and Cadillac health care plans the latter two of which the particular public employees in Wisconsin contribute a big fat goose egg for.
       
      Shame on you lightwriter but at least you didn’t misspell anything this time.

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    • itsallaboutintegrityComment by itsallaboutintegrity
      February 21, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

      Sorry lightwriter, but I have to agree with the dingbat.  The same could be said of the left and their power grabbing agenda.  Secondly, I was a “Teamster” for a year or so many years back and I worked in a factory under the UAW organization and I will tell you that there was more panhandling, work evasion and union member contract breaking than anything I have ever seen in a non-union shop.
      The union adage is, “Get as much as you can get, for as little work or commitment as you can get away with.”  The whole problem with this give me/socialistic leaning society is that they have been “given more than what was ever earned” for so long, that now they view it as a “right and just entitlement!”
      As the Bible states in 1 Timothy 6:10, “For the love of money is the root of all evil;which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”  While the reat of the world measures tragedy by natural catastrophes and disease, we in America seem to be more concerned with our “financial” well being.  God forbid we should have to give up our “Beemers,” “Mercs” and “Life-styles” for the good of our neighbors, state or nation.
      “United we stand, divided me fall” is a truth that lends itself to subjectivity.  It is when used as a mantra by either the far-left or the far-right that it becomes meaningless and soiled.
       
      SEMPER FI

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      February 21, 2011 @ 5:15 pm

      Sure thing, lightwriter.
      The unions want us to hate the Corporations and Obama wants us to hate ‘the rich’.
      You are all birds of the same feather, and chirping the same sad song.

      Union workers in the private sector are down to 7% because the ‘organizers’ sucked the life out of manufacturing.
      Union participation is up to 30% of public sector employees, because it seemed that ‘government’ could never suffer the same fate as private companies.

      But, guess what.  Governments ARE going broke (just like the manufacturers did) and for the same reason…organized bloodsucking.  The unions never know when things are ‘good enough’.  They continually push for just a bit more.  And, when somebody says “enough” they scream bloody murder.

      Times are changing, lightwriter.  The time for public unions has past, and so has the time for ‘progresssive government’.  Things were only allowed to get this far because too many of us have not been paying attention.
      But, we are now…and all of the unearned gravy trains are going to get derailed.
       

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 8:38 pm

      There is a war going on. No one hates the rich. It isn’t about class warfare. People like Bill Gates (Microsoft) have made billions and use their billions to help the world in many positive ways. Others use their money to buy influence for their own selfish ends. Here is the connection between the Corporates and the destruction of the unions. The Corporates have lots of money and use it to remove obstacles to getting more rich and powerful. Look at the cuts congress is proposing. They are proposing the cutting of agencies that protect the air and water that you breathe and drink, agencies that regulate the weird things that they do on Wall Street, the division of the IRS that investigates hidden off-shore moneys. Who do you think benefits from this? Not you and not me. My millions are all right here in the states with all taxes paid (the millions part is a joke).
      The corporates pay for the politicians, and the politicians deliver. The corporates are so big and bad that they have little competition. Enter the unions. Yup, the unions are, when united, pretty big and bad in their own right. As you all mention, unions are not about to be nominated for sainthood, but they end up on the same side as most of us non-corporates, because they use their power and money to support candidates who will stand up to the corporates (a handful of billionaires that Arnold Schwarzenegger called out by name a few months ago). If you don’t get this, you aren’t really open to the truth, and the big boys have successfully won the war. They count on our petty fights with each other to stay in power. Sorry for the rants, but sometimes I thing we are a bunch of sheep being herded by the wolves. I’m tired of being a sheep.

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  24. BillComment by Bill
    February 21, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

    These people are AWOL or GOLDBRICKING and should be charged as such.  They are employees of the government and are subject to the Government.  If nothing else they should be fined.

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    • lightwriterComment by lightwriter
      February 21, 2011 @ 1:25 pm

      Bill,
      When you can’t filibuster, and the governor doesn’t negotiate, there is nothing else that you can do. Remember how our Republican US Senators said, “Maybe we can’t stop health care, but we can sure slow it down.” Similar but the Senate has mechanisms for slowing down or even freezing legislation. The governor thought he could steam roll. I will predict that a couple of gutsy Republican legislators are going to the governor and slowing him down. They already have some pretty good concessions from the union. Don’t forget that the demonstrators have a lot of families and friends and legislators do have to consider backlash in the next election.

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  25. BillComment by Bill
    February 21, 2011 @ 1:15 pm

    Doctors signing false statements should be charged with fraud and should be fined or lose their license.

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    • bethcz8Comment by bethcz8
      September 21, 2013 @ 1:16 pm

      No, they should lose their license and be JAILED for this fraud.

      A fine is merely a cost of doing business… or a cost of participating in the protest.

      Just taking their license will only allow them to move to another state which does a poor job of looking at other states’ licenses, and set up shop again.

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  26. BillComment by Bill
    February 21, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

    We are at the point of good against bad or bad against good,  you are either good or you are bad.  You have to be trusted as bad or trusted to be good, there is no in between you are one or the other.  You can’t play both sides against the middle, there is no middle.  So you have to choose your side.  no switching, either.

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  27. CharieComment by Charie
    February 21, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

    This has been posted in several places on Facebook:

    Wisconsin legislators are not allowed to vote on budgetary matters without at least one member of the opposition party present.  The suggestion is to table the budget and bring out the “concealed carry” and “voter photo ID” bills and vote on them. 

    I think the Dems would be coming back to Wisconsin by plane, helicopter and  if the Republicans did that.

    Bottom line:  This state is Flat Broke. Almost Bankrupt.  No More Money.  In the Red.  I don’t know how it can be said any more plainly than that.     You. Can’t. Get. Blood. Out. Of. A. Turnip!

    Lightwriter, you might consider adding something of substance to the discourse.  WRIGHT?

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  29. pleasepasstheteaComment by pleasepassthetea
    February 21, 2011 @ 2:55 pm

    The bottom line Lightwriter, Steven and the other liberal on this site is this:  You can wring your hands and cry about fairness and compassion and display all the fake sanctimony you want, the bottom line is that THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.  What about that is so difficult for you to understand?  THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.  These union protesters have a lot of nerve complaining about having to pay into their own healthcare and pension funds.  The only reason they HAVE jobs is because their jobs are paid for by the private sector also known as the taxpayer.  That’s right.  The taxpayer whose own financial situation becomes more precarious by the day because they are struggling to keep a roof over their own head WHILE paying for the cushy salaries, pensions and healthcare of government, union workers, whose salaries, healthcare and pensions are far superior.  How fair is that????  Hmmmmm???????  Not only is it NOT fair, it is an outrageous affront to the taxpayer.  How dare the unions complain about ANYTHING.  The only reason they have a job is because the private sector pays for it.  They should be THANKING us for the welfare we dole out to them in exponentially ever-increasing amounts every year, to the detriment of our personal solvency as well as the solvency of our nation.  But that aside, THERE’S NO MORE MONEY!  If you’re family budget is tight and you want a new plasma TV, do you go out and buy that TV??  Not if you’re responsible.  You risk losing everything by living beyond your means.  This is economics at its most BASIC.  The problem with socialism, or redistribution or whatever you would like to call it, is that eventually you run out of everybody else’s money (Margaret Thatcher).  And this is where we are as a nation right now.  There is no more money.  Clear?
    And as for lightweight’s comment about Obama freezing the salaries of government workers, you conveniently omitted the rather salient facts that a).  Obama jacked up those salaries BEFORE he then froze them and b).  Obama significantly increased the government work force, also before he froze salaries.  The end result is a huge increase in government spending at a cost which he has now frozen, which will also continue to increase exponentially.  In other words, deficit spending frozen at unsustainable and bankrupting levels.  But in typical liberal fashion, your arguments are all smoke and mirrors, obfuscation of the facts or better yet, omission of the facts altogether when those facts get, how shall I say, inconvenient. . . .
    Obama’s involvement in Wisconsin’s government business is unconstitutional like everything else he does.  He was NOT elected governor of that State nor was he elected as a legislator of that State.  The residents of Wisconsin threw out the Democrat governor and voted for Scott Walker, whose campaign plank was to do EXACTLY what he is now doing.  The State house also turned from a Democrat majority to a Republican majority.  They are doing what the MAJORITY of voters of Wisconsin demanded in the November elections.  There are also rumblings that teachers are being ordered back to work because polling indicates that the people are NOT behind them.  Face facts – a seismic realignment is taking place in favor of the conservatism of the Founding Fathers.  Hate to burst your bubble there but that is the reality.

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  30. Comment by LuLu
    February 21, 2011 @ 3:01 pm

    I want to be sure no one misses this link since the liberal trolls are citing this rally as having no hate signs. Look for yourself.
     
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-100-best-signs-at-the-rally-to-restore-sanity

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  31. buzzmasterComment by buzzmaster
    February 21, 2011 @ 3:37 pm

    Unions… can’t live with ‘em, can’t live without ‘em.  Once upon a time in America and Europe, there weren’t laws to protect workers from abuse by some employers.  Unions were born out of a need to establish some degree of protection.  Since then, laws have been written that protect workers and then some.  Alas, history has taught us that outdated institutions refuse to die.  Unions now have a symbiotic relationship with Democrats in blue states, relying upon strength in numbers, both with votes and with money.  Democrats have had to accept unions are bedfellows in order to win elections, just as Republicans have had to hold their noses with some alliances.
    So here we are with another case of party politics.  Whereas most doctors are members of the Republican Party. But in Wisconsin, they know who butters their bread and will behave, or misbehave accordingly to keep clientele and perhaps their licenses.
    I have never supported unions, and that point was driven home when I worked in a foundry in Wisconsin.  I was told I would have to join the union after my first month on the job, or quit.  Luckily I found another opportunity and quit.
     

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  32. CapnoverComment by Capnover
    February 21, 2011 @ 3:54 pm

    I just sent the following to the AMA, will be interesting to see how they reply, IF they do!

    “There are Doctors in Michigan passing out fraudulent excuses to teachers who have chosen to shirk their jobs in order to attend the rally against the Governor’s actions.  This is documented in various videos, and there are names available of those Doctors in question.  Is this or is it not grounds for these Doctors to be barred from practicing medicine?  Is it not falsification of records?  Please respond, thank you.”

    Perhaps a flood of inquiries would help our cause?
     

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  33. PeedyComment by darerick1814
    February 21, 2011 @ 4:11 pm

    Question:  Can someone please tell me how much of Governor Walker’s pension is being included in the budget reform?  Not only his pension but the plensions of all the other “so-called” fiscally conservative republicans and tea toddlers.  When George Bush was president, due to deregulations the corporate heads robbed the taxpayers blind out of 401k and pensions and they inflated stock returns as diversion to their underhanded business practices.  You are hypocrital if you ask something of someone but you are not willing to apply it to your own situation.  You say your are American and you love this country so so much and you top it with feigned interest in God.  Well then prove it!   If you are not willing to put your own livelihood on the line than please shut up and stop playing the victim who’s disparagingly left with all of the debt for generations to come…. boo hoo….please republicans stop playing the victim!  Either lead by example or shut up already!  This country is in transition economically, socially, and politically and it will be in transition for years to come as a result of what has transpired over the last 10 years and NOT what has transpired over the last 24 months.  Get a grip people.  Either you are a part of the solution or part of the problem and the latter is certainly not very patriotic.  Patriotism should not be defined by the utter lack of respect and blatent disregard for the Leader of your country but rather what YOU can do for your country!  We need individuals who are Leaders not cheerleaders standing on the sidelines with pacifiers in their mouths waiting for someone to do for them what they cannot do for themselves.  If you don’t like paying taxes then read your History and consider yourself lucky that you were not a Negro Slave, or perhaps a woman, or perhaps an immigrant endentured servant, or some other casualty of egomaniacal capitalists.  You think you are so noble but your pride testifies against you time and again and the blood of the innocent cries out througout American soil from the persistent desire to be in control of eeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyyythiiiiiiiiinnnnnng! Grow up people and stop whining already!  Make a change yourselves or close your trap.   

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    • Comment by LuLu
      February 21, 2011 @ 4:42 pm

      Your comment makes no sense.  It’s nothing more than an irrational whine.
       
       
       
       

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    • pleasepasstheteaComment by pleasepassthetea
      February 21, 2011 @ 7:30 pm

      Huh?  I agree with LuLu – your comments are all over the place and nonsensical really.  Here’s the bottom line darerick – we’re out of money.  It’s time for pubic employees to go find a real job in the private sector and start contributing to the fiscal prosperity of our country instead of continuing to suck the life blood out of it.

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 21, 2011 @ 9:19 pm

      Sorry darerick, I clicked the 1st star by accident instead of the 5th.
      Poor Lulu and PPTT – You confused them with all these ideas all at once.

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  34. Spiritof76Comment by Spiritof76
    February 21, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

    The ones writing phony doctor notes are the same Obamacare physicians that donned the white coats to appear in the phony White House support for the bill in 2009.
    Walker should declare that any teacher that does not report back in class will be fired.  It is time to get rid of the financial cancer called public employee unions.  FDR would not authorize them.  It was a gift from JFK!

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  35. scotpondComment by scotpond
    February 21, 2011 @ 8:09 pm

    WALKER HISTORY Milwaukee County must offer to reinstate 26 courthouse security guards who were laid off nearly a year ago when then-County Executive Scott Walker replaced them with private guards as an emergency budget measure, according to an arbitrator’s decision issued Monday.
    The county did not have a true budget crisis at the time and county officials failed to give the union representing the security guards an opportunity to make some alternative cost-saving proposals before laying them off, according to the decision from arbitrator Amedeo Greco.
    Greco’s ruling also said the $125,000 annual savings from privatizing the courthouse security estimated by county officials was overstated by nearly $53,000.
    The ruling calls for immediately hiring back the laid-off county workers with back pay, with any unemployment compensation or wages from a new job subtracted.
    The County Board rejected the security outsourcing idea in November 2009, when Walker tried to get the move included as part of the 2010 budget.
    But Walker unilaterally ordered it last March, saying the county faced a potential 2010 year-end deficit of about $7 million. British owned Wackenhut is being paid $1.1 million a year under its contract with the county for security.

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  36. scotpondComment by scotpond
    February 21, 2011 @ 8:12 pm

    WALKER’s Union Busting HISTORY: Milwaukee County must offer to reinstate 26 courthouse security guards who were laid off nearly a year ago when then-County Executive Scott Walker replaced them with private guards as an emergency budget measure, according to an arbitrator’s decision issued Monday.
    The county did not have a true budget crisis at the time and county officials failed to give the union representing the security guards an opportunity to make some alternative cost-saving proposals before laying them off, according to the decision from arbitrator Amedeo Greco.
    Greco’s ruling also said the $125,000 annual savings from privatizing the courthouse security estimated by county officials was overstated by nearly $53,000.
    The ruling calls for immediately hiring back the laid-off county workers with back pay, with any unemployment compensation or wages from a new job subtracted.
    The County Board rejected the security outsourcing idea in November 2009, when Walker tried to get the move included as part of the 2010 budget.
    But Walker unilaterally ordered it last March, saying the county faced a potential 2010 year-end deficit of about $7 million. British owned Wackenhut is being paid $1.1 million a year under its contract with the county for security.

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  37. scotpondComment by scotpond
    February 21, 2011 @ 9:12 pm

    People who infiltrate a demonstration with hate signs that they waive in front of FOX TV cameras should be charged with FRAUD too.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 22, 2011 @ 10:29 am

      You are full of it. The only people I have seen infiltrating were Liberals trying to libel the Tea Party. They were caught on camera and then tried to lie to the reporter even tho they showed him the footage of himself. Wheres the proof scotpond? You were the guy with the Hitler sign. In case you forgot what you said: Comment by scotpond
      February 21, 2011 @ 11:02 am

      You can sanction the MDs. Can I sue the guy who made the video shown on FOX news who says “I’m pro government. I went to the rally carrying my NAZI – HITLER sign”. Two signs among thousands and which ones do the media search out and focus on? There wasn’t a single hate sign at the Restore Sanity rally in DC. NOT a single one.
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 22, 2011 @ 10:45 am

      Check FOX TV NEWS – they ran the on camera interview with the kid who did the videotaping of the DR giving him a slip. Said he told MD he was employed as a janitor and said right on camera that he went in with his Hitler sign. Check FOX archives.

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 22, 2011 @ 12:27 pm

      scotpond the only Hitler sign and sign likening to Hitler were carried by the people who are protesting against the Governor and the Republicans. So what I suggest is you post a link showing this incident. I can understand why main stream media did not show whats going on as it would just create more opposition to the Union.
      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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  38. KarenComment by Karen
    February 21, 2011 @ 9:36 pm

    Jamble – KUDOS to you as a retired teacher for writing a post that is mindful of the responsiblity of these teachers to be at work!  I’ve heard that some teachers who are not protesting here in WI are being ignored, ostracized and even bullied by their ‘fellow’ union teachers.  What ever happened to freedom of and respect for choice?  karen

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  40. BethanyComment by Bethany
    February 22, 2011 @ 8:03 am

    While I agree that it is never best to call anyone names, I believe that Duplantier was just making a light-hearted rhyme.  ‘Jerk’ is a pretty mild put-down.  Please lighten up already.

    Well, evidently I have not yet learned how to correctly reply to a post. This was supposed to appear on page 1 of the comments under Duplantier’s little poem. Oops!

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    • VirgoVinceComment by Vince
      February 23, 2011 @ 5:02 pm

      Don’t sweat the small stuff, Bethany, you made it and that’s what counts!
      If ‘jerks’ get excited about little things like that, what would they do with something serious, like if it was directed to them specifically?
      There was nothing wrong with that rhyme, but if you notice, it was written on another site and copied, not by Duplantier, himself!  (politickles.com)  It’s meant to be a joke, to tickle someone’s funny bone, but first, you have to have one!
      I have a question for those who oppose use of names:  What word would you offer to replace ‘idiot?’   Sometimes, there is no substitute for a good, non-pc name, to make a point!   And don’t hand me that ‘ad hominem’ BS, I’m not impressed that you know a latin term, which is your way of calling a name!
      Try again, Bethany!

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    • BethanyComment by Bethany
      February 23, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

      Thanks for the encouragement, Vince.  Onewildman told me how to make sure my posts ended up under the correct original post.

      As the saying goes – Don’t sweat the petty stuff and don’t pet the sweaty stuff …

      There are surely enough serious issues out there to get upset about without us sniping at each other.

      Have a good evening!

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  41. Randy DuttonComment by Randy Dutton
    February 22, 2011 @ 1:19 pm

    RICO – prosecute the perpetrators of this fraud under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 22, 2011 @ 1:30 pm

      “Patient was suffering from severe anxiety and depression. Unable to work.”
      Prove it’s not true.

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  42. SallyDiComment by SallyDi
    February 23, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

    Really, when you think of it, what the Demon-crats have done in Wisconsin is not that much different then Pelosi and her Democratic minions did when they had sessions behind closed doors–”No Republicans Allowed”.  If it wasn’t so serious, I would almost laugh at thier feeble attempts to hold back what the American People really wanted when they voted overwhelmingly Repuplican last November!

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  43. JamesMarineComment by JamesMarine
    February 25, 2011 @ 2:03 pm

    It seems like only yesterday Congressman Alan Simpson was calling seniors the greediest generation for expecting to collect on social security benefits after paying into the system their entire lives.  That was okay with democrats.  But now, shortly after Obama filed suit against the state of Arizona, we have Wisconsin.   How are Wisconsin protesters not greedy?  Unions are driving our country into the ground and it’s high time someone had the stones to put the brakes on.  For the President to enter into the fray is unconscionable.  Things are getting weird, both here in the U.S. and abroad.  Muslims still hate us, but they want a democracy like ours.  Unioneers say they’re patriots, but don’t care if their behavior destroys America, just as long as they get “theirs.”  None of them seem to care about anyone but themselves.  No one is willing to make the smallest personal sacrifice for the benefit of the greater good.  As a career Marine, I find this all sickening beyond belief.  I wonder if this will eventually be settled in the streets here as is currently happening in the Middle East?

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 25, 2011 @ 2:26 pm

      JamesMarine, Why does everyone need to sacrifice except the top 2% who get the big bonuses, stock options, GOLDEN PARACHUTES on retirement, benefits from profits and corporate welfare? n Some of them (ex. Gates, Buffet ++) are saying the gov SHOULD tax the top 2% group more. Please don’t give me the argument that they can send a check with all the $s they don’t want. They’re asking for a change in the tax rates that applies to everyone in their bracket because they know that it wont mean the end of the growth of business or new jobs.

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    • scotpondComment by scotpond
      February 25, 2011 @ 4:08 pm

      ALL Muslims don’t hate us. Listen to them when they talk to our reporters on the ground. They want to know how they can get their kids into our colleges. Turkey came to us to hire someone to set up an English reading program for their kids. Saudi Arabia is coming to us to organize teacher training programs. Everyone loves America and wants to be like us and use our best ideas.

      When I visited China, teenagers sidled up and politely asked if they could “practice their English on me”. Tour guides pointed out all the things they have built based on what they learned from America. Their engineers spent 10 years here studying Hoover Dam before they started building their big dam. They’re restoring tumbled down sections of the Great Wall of China and restoring/preserving the ancient Huton neighborhoods around the Forbidden City in Beijing and other landmark buildings/temples so they can provide the “Disney” experience for tourists who come to see historic China.
      They’ve had their development failures too. They built the Bird’s Nest stadium in Beijing for the Olympics but they don’t have sports and concerts like the US. Now it sits dark and empty because the can’t afford to turn on the lights, much less heat it. You could make a fortune over there if you could work out a money making operation for that stadium. They built a high speed train from Beijing to the airport to impress visitors during the Olympics. It’s mostly a tourist ride now because a taxi ride to the airport is cheaper and more convenient to access with travel bags than riding the train.

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  44. scotpondComment by scotpond
    February 25, 2011 @ 3:45 pm

    Great article telling the history, the FACTS about teacher benefits in WI. Not big bad Unions getting everything they as for but years of teachers accepting lower pay in exchange for deposits to their pension funds. The School districts loved these deals because it COSTS LESS than a pay increase. No employer contributions required for Soc Sec Tax on pension deposits.
    http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/02/25/the-wisconsin-lie-exposed-taxpayers-actually-contribute-nothing-to-public-employee-pensions/

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 28, 2011 @ 9:41 am

      What you fail to state is that in the last 10 years there has been an increase in par of a little more than 21%. So they do get pay raises and the state dose put money in their pension plans. The article you point out is written by a liberal and he does not show the whole truth as you would have people believe. One other thing the cost of living is much less than say California. About three times less. These Teachers do indeed have pay raises until they reach the top wage. The reference to pay increases they didn’t get but were instead used for retirement is not the sane thing as their normal pay raise. They also fail to mention the average pay is about $46,000 . Anywhere you can make almost half the price of the cost of a home is doing good. Even if you make 1/4 of the cost you are doing good. I have no sympathy for these teachers and their union.
       

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

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