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It's Time for a Little Common Sense with Airport Screenings

By Bobby Eberle

The travel season is upon us. As people get ready to see friends and relatives for Thanksgiving and Christmas (insert PC holiday of your choice), added attention has been focused on air screenings and the procedures of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). In the search for terrorists, do we really need to be searching three-year-old kids? In the search for possible airplane bombers, do we really need to search nuns? A little common sense goes a long way, and it's time for our government to give it a try.

First, we have the story of a three-year-old girl who became upset when she had to let go of her teddy bear at the airport. The incident caused TSA officials to "flag her" for a closer inspection. Are you serious? As HotAir.com reports, it just so happens that her dad works as a television reporter, so we're all going to hear about it now.

The column makes some good points about security and searches. Is it possible that a terrorist would use a child and possibly load up the child's toy with explosives. Of course. Al Qaeda has used children as bombers repeatedly. However, there are clearly adults involved. If the three-year-old is suspected of carrying a bomb, shouldn't the "parents" be the ones under closer scrutiny?

Or how about a nun being given "the business?" Is this really necessary? Or the new full body scanners authorized by the Obama administration? Is it necessary to get a "peek" at people in order from them to fly?

Ok, is it just me, or did you smile when Janet Napolitano said "ping at a private area? Just sayin'.

The security procedures should be focused on those people most likely to commit a crime. Yes, call it profiling, or whatever you want. I call it common sense. ALL major terrorist attacks over the last several decades have been committed by radical Muslims, yet we are going to screen three-year-olds and nuns?

Of course, not everyone who refuses the additional pat-downs may be excluded from flying like the man in the video was. According to a story on CNSNews.com, the Council on American-Islamic Relations "has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes." When CNSNews.com asked Napolitano, "Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?", Napolitano responded by saying that "adjustments" will be made.

Did she answer the question? I don't think so.

Security is important, but our procedures for making Americans more secure must have some basis in fact and reality. Look at the data. Perform an analysis. Draw conclusions. Simple, right? Apparently not. Otherwise, we'd focus security on all the cargo ships that come in and out of the U.S. every day. We'd focus on people most likely to commit terrorist acts... not nuns and kids with teddy bears.

Pilots are up in arms about the screening procedures too, as they are also subject to pat-downs. Does it make you feel more secure to see a pilot being searched?

One 20-year airline pilot, Patrick Smith, recalled once being stopped and questioned because he had a butter knife in a bag. "If a pilot like me is going to be up to no good, why would he need a butter knife?" he said. "I'm in control of the entire airplane!"

Walsh argued that it sends a disturbing message to passengers for them to see pilots being searched. "They must think, 'This is the guy flying the plane. If you can't trust the pilot who can you trust?'" he said.

Good points. Oh what a little common sense could do.

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  1. EldrigeComment by Eldrige
    November 16, 2010 @ 8:48 am

    IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO HID, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL. HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE HOLY LAND LATELY?
    HOW MANY NATIVE BORN “NUTS” DO WE HAVE AROUND? HAVE YOU HEARD OF ANY “UNHAPPY” CITIZENS LATELY, THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT MEANING FOR “COMMON” SENSE THEN YOU AND I HAVE. I AM SO SORRY TO HAVE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE ALOT OF “EUROPEAN” AMERICANS THAT WOULD NOT HESITATE TO DO “DREADFUL” ACTS AGAINST THEIR HOME COUNTRY. WE LIVE IN A VERY DIFFERENT ERA THAN I WAS BROUGHT UP IN. IT REALLY SADDENS ME TO THINK WHAT OUR COUNTRY HAS SUNK TO.
    I DO BELIEVE IN PROFILING. MOST OF THE “BAD” HAS COME FROM “MUSLIMS”. FACE REALITY. BE DILIGENT. IF WE DON’T FIGHT THEM IN THEIR HOME LAND, WE WILL BE FIGHTING THEM HERE. REMEMBER 9/11, AND NEVER FORGET IT.

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  2. GeraldComment by Gerald
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:21 am

    Common sense has become an oxymoron because sense is no longer common. I agree that a 3 yr old could be used as a bomb carrier BUT it’s the parents who need to be checked. Anyone can get a nun’s habit at a costume store & “become” a nun so no pass there. But consider: this spring my 92 year old Dad joined 60+ other WWII vets ranging from 85-92 and many in wheel chairs for an Honor Flight to D.C. EACH of them went thru the full TSA search in a small Iowa airport. I think that trumps the examples you provided: decorated, aged WWII vets who fought for the freedom to be patted down like terrorists. Yes we need to profile and this is one ‘profile’ that should get a pass at every airport; if not, terrorists have ‘won’! (proud son of that vet and a Viet vet myself)

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  3. TomComment by Tom
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:23 am

    Why can’t members of the administration answer a simple question like that posed to J. Napolitano about scanning a Muslim woman with a simple “YES” or “NO”? Leaves me to believe that there is an agenda involved with Obama’s signature on it.

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  4. FaithinJesusComment by FaithinJesus
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:24 am

    To Eldrige and anyone who feels similarly about this: Almost 20 years ago, I was the victim of a sexual assault. I have been healed of that, but I refuse to subject myself to another sexual assault just to get on a plane. My body is my own, and I am the one who determines who looks at me naked, who touches it and how. To ask what’s the big deal if I have nothing to hide is one of the most inconsiderate questions you can ask, whether you know me or not. And it’s a stupid question to boot because I DO have something to hide – my body is mine, it’s my right to decide who sees it in all it’s glory, and it’s not subject to a complete stranger to grope at his or her will in the name of “security.” My body and my privacy is something to hide, as is yours and everyone else’s. And don’t get me started on the TSA screeners who want to touch little children where it’s not appropriate! If our government is really serious about security, then they need to train TSA screeners in counter-terrorism training. It’s the behavior, not what they look like.

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  5. F.R. DuplantierComment by F.R. Duplantier
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:25 am

    NEW DEPARTS
    When I travel by air now and then,
    The security staff wave me in:
    I don’t have to be scoped
    Or publicly groped,
    I just hand them a lewd 8×10.
    TAKEOFF
    “With security lapses reviewed
    On Flight 253, we conclude:
    Due to differing beliefs
    About bombs in one’s briefs,
    Every passenger now must fly nude.”
    WELCOME TO AMERICA
    “You illegally crossed our border?
    You’re a drugs and weapons importer?
    You’re a sociopath
    Spewing venomous wrath?
    Yes, everything seems in order.”
    ZERO TOLERANCE
    When the stewardess gave it a tug,
    I complained that my seatbelt was “snug.”
    She said I’d regret
    That insidious threat:
    “Backwards, ‘snug’ spells ‘guns,’ you lug!”
    PROFILES IN CARNAGE
    Multiculturalism assails
    Common sense until it fails:
    Screeners x-ray granny
    And pat down the nanny,
    But ignore young Arab males.
    (politickles.com)

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  6. handymanherbComment by handymanherb
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:26 am

    Make everyone eat a piece of bacon,or have a pig to pet before you get to fly, since muslims believe they will go straight to hell if they touch pork,problem solved.
    And if the brain dead would stop saying, they can do anything they want to me, I’ve got to fly, you don’t have to fly, you chose to fly, if you stopped flying, like in a boycott, real changes would be made.

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  7. FranciscoComment by Francisco
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:41 am

    I cannot say I am for either full body scanner or “full” body pat down!?! It is damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Nothing extraordinary has happened since this all started, whatever threats came were caught. So why spend more tax payer funds for the “body scanner’, etc.?!?! I think the Gov’t has gone “out-of-control”, we do not see this in Europe except maybe when you board a U.S. plane!
    Once they removed a very small nail clipper because it had a nail file attached to it! Ridiculous! If I want to do harm all I need is my ball “point” or any pen or even pencil. But that was never put in place was it????? We are not only idiots BUT also hypocrits!

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  8. ROCnDOCComment by ROCnDOC
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:43 am

    Thank You,Thank You,Thank You,…I (and I’m sure many others) have been saying this for some time. Please Profile! That’s how you catch the bad guys! That’s what “profilers” are for. This is not racist,not discriminatory, nor illegal…it’s common sense. I’m convinced that if a candidate ran a campaign these days with those 2 word on a billboard-”COMMON SENSE” that they’d win in a heartbeat. In fact, that’s kinda what the Tea Party is saying,partly. TSA is the most poorly run organization I’ve seen. Quite frankly,I’m a little tired of being treated rudely and unprofessinally by someone I’m quite sure has minimal education(based on their grammar),because I either did or didn’t place my shoes directly on the conveyor. How bout a little universal conformity? I tried to explain this to a TSA employee once, very nicely with no attitude, and I thought they were gonaa have me incarcerated for subservise activities. Please..common sense, stop pat down searching my 76 yo grey haired,bee hive mother.

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  9. ROCnDOCComment by ROCnDOC
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:45 am

    subversive

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  10. LardasComment by Lardas
    November 16, 2010 @ 9:46 am

    William Pitt of the house of Commons once proclaimed “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human liberty; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
    As evidenced by thousands of new laws added to the books each year in this country. But, no matter how cleverly this Marxist argument is made, the hard fact is that whenever you give up a Right you loose free choice
    Free travel is guaranteed by the Constitution article Five (Liberty)the unlawful TSA and home land security are in violation of several articles of the Constitution, they are taking license, that is arbitrarily taking control of individuals and making a crime out of what ordinarily would not be a crime, thus turning a right into a privilege: public access to transplantation, if one cannot understand this basic right, then we are doomed to become slaves of the government

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  11. MichaelComment by Michael
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:08 am

    The tine has come to afferm our humanity I will not fly with my family under these conditions. To pay to be humeliated is wrong punish our enemys. Elim9inate them one by one. Allow armed citizems to petrol airports and city steets. Soon all enemys well disapear. They will be DEAD. Close all ports now. make what we need forget the world.We can get our liberty back kick out the problem now!

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  12. Chris BComment by Chris B
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:12 am

    I personally have nothing against full body scanners (although I have heard that there are some possible health effects that that is a concern for me). The charge of vouyerism is a weak one, I can’t imagine anyone who has to check hundreds of people for potential problems would even have the time to find anything exciting in any one of thos eimages.
    The other problems are clearly excessive. Common sense must dictate appropriate responses. One of the best ways to sneak in a false negative (a missed problem) by spending too much time on false positives (searching kids because they cried over a teddy bear). There is some concern that these scanners can be fooled by those who know how, so this is also a case where false negatives can sneak through the system.
    If it really worked, if it were really safe, if it was really cost effective, if it actually cuts down delays at the airport, then I have no problem with it. But these are a whole lot of if’s.

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  13. MatthewComment by Matthew
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:12 am

    Common Sense?
    The government use common sense?
    That’s funny!

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  14. jtmmnmComment by jtmmnm
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:15 am

    A good leader should set the example. I suggest Ms. Napolitano set the example for the flying public by subjecting herself to the full body scanner and the full body pat down on nationwide TV.

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  15. JoeComment by Joe
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:16 am

    The airlines have secured their selves right out of business. I will never fly again. That really does solve the problem “no fliers no need for security” It is sad that this has gotten so far out of control.

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  16. TxMontyComment by TxMonty
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:17 am

    I work at the airport once a week as a volunteer and wear a distinctive uniform and an ID badge. Have done so for four years and still I have to submit to full body pat-downs. Reason? I’m in a wheelchair and can’t stand upright long enough for them to do a full body scan. Taking my shoes off, removing my jacket and belt (try doing that while sitting down in an armchair) going through the embarrassing pat down then getting dressed again takes about 20 minutes. I’m sure glad I don’t hold up other customers. CUSTOMERS? Oh, they’re not customers to the TSA. They’re suspects. All of them, otherwise they wouldn’ have to be subjected to such humiliation. The Bureaucrats who dream up and enforce such regulations are completely out of control and need to be lassoed by our elected officials in Congress.

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  17. carolajComment by carolaj
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:17 am

    In Jan. 2002 my brother and sister-in-law won a trip to Hawaii. At the airport the stupid guard started opening her sealed catheters. Since you can see what is in the clear packaging, how ridiculous can you get. He also was going to confiscate my brothers stethescope because it was a “potential weapon”. Thank goodness there were clearer heads or they couldn’t have gone.

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  18. TxMontyComment by TxMonty
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:19 am

    Just have to applaud Lardas’s comment. Thank you!

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  19. AlwaysRIGHTComment by AlwaysRIGHT
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:23 am

    If you are among those people who are objecting to the supposed “nude” scanner, I say “GROW UP!” Nobody gives a damn about seeing the black and white fuzzy nearly x-ray looking images of your body. TSA people have a job to do. If they or anyone wants to see nudity – there’s free full color hi-res images and videos on the internet. An outline of your breast or an image of your genitals that is comparable to what you’d see on a naked mannequin isn’t anything to get all upset or excited about. GROW UP… or stay home from the airport – because I want the security there to protect me from the insane jihadists intent on killing us. I don’t give a damn if someone feels your breast, or your thigh, or your genitals in an effort to check for explosives or hidden weapons. Get over it. And get on the plane.
    You’re an adult boarding a plane… walk through the scanner, and move on, there’s someone behind you (me) and I’ve got a flight to catch.
    By the way, does a bomb strapped to a child have to occur before you understand that it’s possible? Finally, the TSA does something proactive, and everyone reacts like just because their precious child wouldn’t carry a bomb, no children should be searched. Well, it’s going to happen one day, so let’s prevent it.
    Another thing – muslim women should not be excluded from these procedures! That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. What’s next, should we exclude gang members from going through metal detectors at schools? If muslims want to drive cars, show their face on the license. If they want to travel by plane, go through the procedure!

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  20. ROCnDOCComment by ROCnDOC
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:24 am

    the mental picture I get of that scares me

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  21. carolajComment by carolaj
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:26 am

    Sorry, but I was a victim of profiling. My husband and I were returning home from his father’s funeral and were pulled out of line because we were wearing “cowboy clothes”. Also, a Hindu boy who was wearing a similar outfit was pulled. His brother, who was wearing traditional clothes including turban was allowed right on the plane. We were considered potentiontial hi-jackers because of our clothes. When we finally got on the plane we were separated and I found that one of my bosses was also on that plane. The young Hindu couldn’t understand why he was pulled. He said after all it was his brother wearing the turban who could have a hidden weapon. And the stupidity goes on and on.

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  22. JoeComment by Joe
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:38 am

    It is the need to do all of this **** that is so offencive, and that is exactly why I won’t fly anywhere. I’ll drive, and you can fly. Hope your arms don’t get to tired :)

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  23. linemech46Comment by linemech46
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:38 am

    I’m not sure about anyone else that’s left a comment because I didn’t read through them all, but I sure feel like my fourth amendment rights are being violated. The argument of “if you have nothing to hide, then what’s the big deal” does not hold water with me, nor does it all for the sake of safety. The Nazi’s used the same philosophy in world war two when disarming the public. It’s all in the name of safety give us your weapons and we’ll protect you. Look at what happened then. Our country is being slowly turned into a police state, and quite frankly I’m getting fed up.When is the American public going to wake up and say “enough is enough, we’re not going to take this anymore!”? I’m tired of having to be politically correct because it might offend someone. If our fourth amendment rights can be violated then screw being pc and start pulling the folks out of line that look like they could be a potential problem. Oh that’s right, I forgot. Anyone that has served this great nation, by Napolitano’s memo is now considered a threat as well. Give me a break!

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  24. OakComment by Oak
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:44 am

    Little by little our freedoms and rights are being eroded in the name of safety and security.
    I feel the events of 9-11 stem directly from the government telling people not to resist hijackers. “Don’t worry, you will just get a free trip and everything will be alright.” If we had resisted hijacking from the getgo, there would have been fewer hijackings and 9-11 would not have happened in the manner it did.
    Of course, if we kept our noses out of the business of other countries perhaps, ah well, niether here nor there.

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  25. FranciscoComment by Francisco
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:45 am

    One comment I read about nun clothes can be had at a costume shop BUT so can anyone acquire or make an Arab “female” garment with a burka! Question one should ask “is the person under those garments a male or female” or “are they wired”??? I have Muslim friends, like I tell them. I don’t believe their female should be hiding their faces (heads) for the purpose of having an identification card or driver’s license. This is NOT in the Quran (Koran), Alah the great did not obligate this. It is just male chauvinism! and they (my friends) agree! I have the English translation of the Quran, I suggest you all buy it and read it, too. To be able to counter anything a Muslim will tell you.

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  26. LindaComment by Linda
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:47 am

    This is a really tough one. I bet those people in the twin towers would have appreciated all the passengers being scanned or patted down before getting on those planes. We live in hard times. I truly hate that people can’t just let others live without trying to take freedoms and life away. But that’s the way it is now. I don’t have any answers, wish I did! I will not fly again unless there is no other option. I don’t want to be exposed to massive x-ray nor do i want to be groped. But I understand the need. As has already been mentioned in previous opinions, there are those who will use a baby or young child or any kind of costume or deception to hide weapons of all sorts. The parents may look and act totally “normal” and innocent! That is how the terrorists work! They do anything and everything to appear just like “one of us”. If you haven’t noticed, there have been a lot of terrorists who have lived their whole lives in the USA, who are light skinned, who appear to be just “one of us”. They live in our neighborhoods and become our friends and work side by side with us and pay taxes and are concerned about their children and enjoy the luxuries and opportunities that they can. Suddenly they turn out to be a terrorist and everyone is flabbergasted, “I can’t believe he/she would do such a thing!” “I just never saw anything different about them!” “I can’t believe my neighbor of XX years was actually a terrorist sleeper!They were such good neighbors!”
    I don’t like the situation, but until there is a better answer, there isn’t much else to be done. By the way, I think profiling is a great first step, but it isn’t the total answer.

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  27. Midwest ValuesComment by Midwest Values
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:53 am

    If passengers agree to this, what’s next? Police need probable cause to do a pat down when they pull someone over. That’s for a reason – in America we have rights. If we let them get away with this, next your children will be groped every day in order to enter their school. Or maybe you will be groped on your way into your office each morning. It will become “normalized” and “just how it is” I say NO! This is not how it will be. Fight back. Complain to the airlines. Complain to ACLU. Where are they at this moment?

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  28. NancyComment by Nancy
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:53 am

    The sad thing is that any group we completely exclude from screenings will be the very next group the terrorists use to get past security.
    Common sense can’t always work when your enemy’s main goal is to kill you, even if it takes suicide or killing their so-called loved ones to accomplish it.
    Remember the couple that had explosives in their baby’s bottle?

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  29. AlwaysRIGHTComment by AlwaysRIGHT
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:56 am

    Linda – I like your reference to the people in twin towers. Good point. In fact, you make a lot of good points. These people who object to having their kids or even babies screened – they don’t get it – terrorists could be posing as parents with “baby bomb.” If anyone thinks that’s crazy, did anyone think of a shoe bomber or an underwear bomber before it happened?

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  30. Midwest ValuesComment by Midwest Values
    November 16, 2010 @ 10:58 am

    The big deeal Eldridge is that the scanners are not safe and the alternative is abhorrent. Which do you choose? Cancer or groping? You might say its just the price we have to pay to be safe on a plane. Whats next? Will it be the price to go into the grocery, or the mall? What if a terrorist blew up a mall? Would the TSA institute the same draconian measures at every mall entrance? Come on! Look at what you are so freely agreeing to.

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  31. Bill1776Comment by Bill1776
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:02 am

    All the screening and searching is completely unnecessary. There is another way which is so simple and inexpensive I doubt if they will do it.
    I read an article a few days ago about a tactic used in Israel to stop the suicide bombers on the buses. They put a bucket of hog lard right up front by the driver. Muslims believe that if they touch pork or get pig grease on them they will not go to paradise but be condemned for eternity. So a smart leader in Israel had the pig grease installed and signs put up letting everyone know about it. So if an islamic terrorist straps on a bomb and blows himself up on a bus the pig grease will fly everywhere get on him and …whoops – no paradise, no virgins, nada, nothing but misery forever! Guess what, it worked. Suicide bombers on buses stopped cold.
    Put a container of pig grease in the air ports and on the planes with a big sign to let the people know it is pig grease. Then you will need no screening or searching.

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  32. KurtComment by Kurt
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:10 am

    Some people who are for these procedures seem to have forgotten, or never learned, that the x-ray machines are virtually useless for liquid explosives anyway — as per experts who helped test the things. They also forget that the TSA members who screen our luggage fail more time than they succeed in locating “bombs” — materials that are sent through in luggage to test TSA screeners. And they forget that bomb-sniffing dogs and metal detectors, which are relatively inexpensive, cheap, and non-invasive, operate just fine.
    You say “grow up”; I say “study up.”

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  33. KathyComment by Kathy
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:32 am

    Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Hey Obama, Napolitano, you’re trampling on the Constitution once again, and it’s time for Americans to see that your removed. If we are a nation of law and not of men.

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  34. Liberty4310Comment by Liberty4310
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:35 am

    It would be one thing if subjecting ourselves to such invasive procedures really did prevent a problem. However, there isn’t any evidence that either the full body scan or a complete pat down will prevent a bomb from getting on board the airplane. No one has yet gotten through the metal detectors carrying a bomb, at least not in this country. Why do the extra examination? Why run the additional risk of causing cancer? As for the pat downs, my body is sacrosanct. It belongs to me. No stranger has a right to touch it without my consent just because I bought a ticket to take me from point A to point B.
    There is a much simpler solution to the whole airport security issue. When I came from Tel Aviv a few years ago, we walked in the door and stood in a ticket counter line for about 10 minutes. At the head of the line, a security agent did a visual check of our open luggage that took all of 20 seconds. At the counter, another security agent stood next to the ticket agent while she asked a couple questions. Moments later, we were on our way, went through a metal detector and up the escalator to the main concourse. The whole thing took fewer than 13 hassel free minutes. There has never been a bombing or hijacking of an aircraft coming out of Tel Aviv.
    What was different? Well trained security agents knew who and what to look for and what questions to ask. Ms. Napolitano and the rest of her idiot bureaucracy need to talk to the Israilis and LEARN. Our TSA must start knowing who and what to look for and what questions to ask. Simple. It’s my understanding that we have never consulted the Israelis or have ignored their advice.

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  35. Liberty4310Comment by Liberty4310
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:41 am

    I’m reminded of a scene in the movie “Planet of the Apes” where Charleton Heston is manhandled by an ape. He says, “Get your filthy hands off me you ape!” I think we know who the apes are.

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  36. JanazurComment by Janazur
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:43 am

    I have to agree with the comments of AlwaysRIGHT and Linda. GROW UP! What good are all your “rights” and “hard fought freedoms” if your *** is blown across 3 states? I’ll also bet the people killed in the Twin Towers would go for all the scanning and groping necessary to see that another 9-11 never happens. Another thing, if Bush had seen fit to attack Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq and Afghanistan, we probably would have nipped this terrorist BS in the bud and gas would be 25 cents a gallon.

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  37. Liberty4310Comment by Liberty4310
    November 16, 2010 @ 11:46 am

    Nuts! The line was: “Get your hands off me you filthy ape!”

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  38. swooperComment by swooper
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:00 pm

    Why don’t we do what El Al Airlines, run by the Israelis, does? They profile EVERYBODY, and their trained questioners question everybody. Until they are satisfied. No pat-downs, no body scans.
    The result? It works for them. There has never been an El Al plane hijacked or blown up or seized by terrorists. And they are not necessarily bound by a strict flight schedule, which is designed to further unbalance a would-be terrorist.

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  39. mo ky fellowComment by mo ky fellow
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:03 pm

    Vanity, Vanity! I wish all you complainers would get down off your high-horse! When I fly, I want to at least feel safe and I believe the full body scan is the best way. I don’t care how you are dressed, I don’t care how young you are, I want everyone checked. If an adult is dead set on killing themself by bringing a plane down, they most likely would want their child to go with them. A bomb can be strapped to that child. A woman who dresses in a nun’s habit has not made herself a nun.
    ———CHECK EVERYONE WITH A BODY SCAN———-

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  40. LucyLuComment by LucyLu
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:32 pm

    Wow, some of you want to fly a lot more than I do.
    What else would you be willing to do to get on those planes?
    Those of you willing to strip for Janet Napolitano and Obama are already part of the socialist, big brother mentality.
    You’d fit in much better in Cuba. Maybe you could catch a plane.

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  41. nutstoyouComment by nutstoyou
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:44 pm

    When you ask the question, “If you have nothing to hide, you should not mind the search”, you are asking the wrong question. The question should be, “Do you want to get to your destination in fragments or would you like to get there in one piece”? I have no sympathy for Muslim women. Were it not for Muslim crazies, we wouldn’t need any of this!The minute you would exclude someone – child or wheel chair – you can rest assured the Muslim crazies would use this as a means of doing us harm.

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  42. SandyComment by Sandy
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

    I would agree to the full body search under two conditions:
    1) I would insist that it be done by someone of the opposite sex. That way at least I would enjoy it.
    2) I get to do the same to my searcher (see # 1).
    As to the scanner, a couple of wraps of aluminum foil would certainly give the TSA a puzzled expression. Or you could make letters spelling out Howdy!

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  43. USNpopsComment by USNpops
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:50 pm

    This entire situation makes me sick.
    I read all this BS, and then look back at the reason for it in the first place. 3000 people died on 9/11 due to people being allowed to carry Box Cutters aboard a plane.
    Since then, we have Underwear bombers, shoe bombers, suspects with explosives hidden in body cavities, Printer cartridges loaded with explosives etc. etc. etc. We have women and children in the middle east blowing themselves up in public places, and threatening to do the same here in the US.
    So do we bow to these whiny people that feel their privacy is more important than having the plane I fly on be blown out of the sky by a bomb.
    And yes perhaps a bomb hidden in a sweet young girls teddy bear by a converted Muslim parent that sees Sharia Law as the rule of life. Remember that under Sharia Law, a girl is a commodity to be used or abused as the males around her might deem necessary to further their cause. Life, even a sweet young girl’s life, is not considered that important.
    Or a gun made out of a material undetectable by the normal scanners. They exist, and without close scrutiny, could get on board the plane I fly on.
    And “Profiling”, there’s another joke. There already have been numerous muslim converts that are regular folks that might be living next door to you. Living the American Dream until they decide to act. Why did not they profile the guy at Fort Hood before he killed so many. Plus profiling is “Politically Incorrect”.
    We must in this day and age give up some of our privacy and yes even dignity, to be safe from those that would do us harm. They are making it a point to use our own ideas of right and wrong as weapons against us.

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  44. GACComment by GAC
    November 16, 2010 @ 12:53 pm

    My one real concern about the Full Body Scanner is how much radiation am I being subjected to while being scanned. After reading news articles about supposedly benign medical scanners giving almost lethal doses of X-rays because its out of adjustment, I worry about exposure. I am not willing to risk my health to fly because the government says that that is the only way to be safe in the air.
    I have a suggestion for “Frequent Fliers”, Pilots, Flight Attendants, and anyone else worried about the X-ray exposure from the “Full Body Scanner.” My suggestion is to buy and wear a “Dosimeter Badge.” A dosimeter measures exposure to radiation, and changes color when exposure reaches a hazardous level. I spent less than ten minutes online searching for dosimeters and found several sites that sell them for around $60.00.
    If the scanners are hazardous and enough people have dosimeters to prove it, sounds like a Class Action lawsuit to me.

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  45. FireMallComment by FireMall
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:06 pm

    Sorry folks. this is too long but here it comes anyway.
    FireMall ·
    Ok: Besides the obvious legal issues with the TSA agenda , there are some things that have been eating at me, which ,Imo, are even more important to America’s safety & well being than the 4th amendment.
    #1– I heard the Muslim airline passengers are / will “Not” BE required to go thru the Body scanner for so called religious reasons or even have their turbines or burka’s disturbed along with No touching. Wth is this Dot “O” Gov.BS ??
    I don’t have the Christian Verse & Chapter regarding nakedness of this exact issue , but I should have the same rights to claim to Opt out under the same religious beliefs scenario, Right ? Regardless to Any / All Religious affiliation ??
    I see “Reverse Profiling” issues here, Does anyone else ?? Goose & Gander ??
    The POTUS & Gang have many times ,used “Profiling” as their defense of what I, as An American Citizen ,consider , America’s Enemies.
    Why can the American Citizens “NOT” use the same “Tactics” in their Own “Self Defense” ??
    As far as I have learned , Islam & Christianity are very similar to a degree.
    At least up to the point where Mohammad & “our” own Dot Gov have PC re-defined, the written word of Islam while obviously Ignoring all other Peaceful religions.
    Current Example: The Healthcare Law exempts Muslims from mandated Health Ins. because of Insurance being considered Gambling by the Quran.
    News flash folks , I will be claiming the Same exemptions as a Christian.
    All True “Practicing ” Christians/ religions are forbidden to Gamble also.
    With one Politically Correct difference, I/ others, will be “Denied” the same rights as the Muslims. Place bets here !
    When did the Majority’s Rights become secondary to “We The People’s” sworn enemies’ rights ??
    #2– The Most logical resolution to the Illegal Search issue would need to be addressed in a simple “Treat the Cause” “Before” the “Symptoms” are a clear & Present Danger , to all Americans as well as Their Freedoms, & Rights To “Peace of Mind”
    Next, Yes: I am aware of the Political Correctness violations I am about to commit by posting my OP here.
    So in my own defense in advance,for what I believe should be the “First” & Foremost issue in lieu of the TSA invasions.
    Tough S—t : I have the right to say hell no , I won’t go , if the Muslims are Allowed by Nappy-tano to do the same .
    The problem with the TSA issue is , It does not actually address the Illness. Only the potential Symptoms are being dealt with. Which is still more than the POTUS is doing.
    Are ya’ll ready ?? Here Goes ! PC gone crazy !
    The Present & past Admins have not done anything but Kick the Enemy PC football around for Political gain / reasons for Decades.
    I suspect the U.N. also has a major hand in this self-defeating , unnecessary , Anti-Freedom fiasco to Socialize America.
    It Is way past time { if not Too late} “To Eliminate the Illness” which is carried into / upon America’s innocents by the very perverted minds of the Enemies of America’s Citizens , which obviously , the Politicians / powers that be , are afraid or unwilling for whatever reasons ,to deal with.
    Especially when considering the U.S. has all the Military Might required to eliminate any and all Threats to “We The People” of America’s way of life, thus, in “No” uncertain terms , by any means necessary. & I mean Any Means. Period !
    Some worry about taking the Islamic terrorist / Muslims to the Pit and starting WW3. Guess what ? The drunk in the bar is aware of our Politician’s Fear & “Will” use it to the max. As seen & Proven thus far.
    News flash !– WW3 has been in motion for years.
    Even when the Wimps in DC are not admitting to it .
    However, Imo, Non-admissions are very close to Aiding & abetting the enemy regarding the Security / Safety of Americans in this case. ref: Oath of office.
    To date , I see more actions from the present admin that “Empower” the enemy and next to nothing in Eliminating the Enemy within & abroad.
    In the Real world I live in , I relate the In-actions of Dot Gov in dealing with the Muslim’s threat, to dealing with the Fighting Drunk / Con at the dance hall. Ref: Hate filled from childhood types, sound familiar ??
    One can talk, reason,& even beg, the Fighting Drunk to change his beliefs / ways till hell freezes over & said Drunk will only become more combative, deceitful & defiant when confronted.
    SO- In the end there “Has” to be a showdown. I.E. If the drunk gets his butt Beat bad enough & often enough, in a very severe way, The Drunk “Will Not” be coming back for another round.
    And as Life will Historically show. “We” will be wishing “We” had eliminated the Drunk from “Our” dance hall long before the Drunk could cause harm to the Other Patrons / Patriots. Just as any good bar tender / “Our” National Leaders would / should have already done.
    Problem Solved ? Not while PC is the first rule of War.imo.
    When our Leaders {I Hope}, start adhering to their Oaths of Office “To Protect & Serve” & Eliminates the Drunken Insane Threats from our Nation’s Dance halls & Land , this will be the Day “We The People” will be “Free To Dance” in “Peace” once again. As Per: The Constitution & Bill of Rights,& Military duties “Of ” — The United States of America.
    There ya go folks, Say I’m Politically Incorrect if some choose to. But ! Prove it with your own familie’s well being in mind.
    BTW: On a couple of related side notes.
    I heard a LIVE broadcast on Charlie Jones’ “Texas Overnight” radio talk show. during which A Sargent “in” the Afghan war zone called in and stated 2 things which, “our” so called , Leaders, are afraid to talk about.
    The war in Afghan is getting more intense these days for primarily 2 reasons.
    #1— President Carzi is obviously a Double agent for the Enemy & is really PO’d about the night bombings doing what “our” military is there to do. Eliminate the Enemy. hmmm seems Carzi should be on the list as well. like Obama would OK taking out one of the Main Players of America’s Threat.
    #2— Next, this is something I either missed or it hasn’t been leaked yet which the Sargent said.
    The enemy is becoming more well suited for war. Why ? Because “We” are actually fighting Russia’s Muslim troops these days and the Sargent relayed to the Listeners that the Russian Muslim troops are Very well trained & adept Marksmen / soldiers. Now Who the heck are “We” “actually” at War with ?? My guess / Most Nations in Europe & All of the Mid-east. WW3 anyone ?? Russia went broke fighting the Islam Taliban threat years ago.
    Sound familiar ?
    Now How many Nations are the Taiban’s allies now & the U.S.’s enemies to boot??.
    If our oldest & newest leaders are also too afraid to deal with the enemy as Enemies, then they All Also should hear– in 2012—————————-Fire-M-All.————————-
    From: Stickville TEXAS. AMEN

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  46. missvioletbComment by missvioletb
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

    For all of you who think it’s “ok” to just comply with this insane policy, then don’t be surprised when YOU might be found to be an undesirable element in YOUR socialist society, and asked to board a train without any questions. How far are you willing to go? I hope you get ready to grab your ankles when these psychos decide to start searching for things in body cavities.

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  47. Double AceComment by Double Ace
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:27 pm

    This has nothing to do with hiding anything. It has to do with the fact that the people who are trying to blow up airplanes with Americans on them are muslims, and yet there will be “adjustments” for muslim women and my daughter and wife qill be subject to full body scans or pat downs? ***. This is America and we are Americans. If anything we should be checking muslims more closely than the rest of the population. If muslim women don’t have to submit then neither will my family members. The airlines could end up goiong broke over this kind of BS. While on the subject do you have any idea of the kind of people that are patting you down or ogling you daughter. These people would be on welfare if it wasn’t for the TSA paychecks they are receiving.

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  48. AmericaFirstComment by AmericaFirst
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:30 pm

    THE TERRORISTS MUST BE LAUGHING TIL THEIR SIDES HURT!
    Can you imagine how stupid this all looks! How great they must feel, how important. They are making great changes in our country, while our freedoms are being striped away. Our Government is becoming like their own “Shariah Law,”..demanding, obsessive, controlling, punitive, and suppressive! They won’t have to do much more, and we will have our own “Shariah Law,” only by another name.
    I second the opinion that, “Those of you willing to strip for Janet Napolitano and Obamanation are already part of the Socialist, big brother mentality!” LITTLE MINDS ARE EASILY LEAD.” These people are stupid about the World, and what is going on..
    Oh, and I cannot get over the fact that MUSLIM
    women are not to be searched! How do we know they are even women?? These people, this “Political Movement,” (not a religion) should be kicked out of the United States. Are we are becoming a Muslim Nation! Look at what is in the White House, listen to what he says, and see who he visits, and where he pay homage..
    Lets search the Vets, the children, the elderly, but, “ANYONE in Muslim dress, is given a pass!
    (I thought all the terrorists have been Muslim.) We don’t have too much further to go, and we will be on our knees, five times a day, facing the East.

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  49. AlwaysRIGHTComment by AlwaysRIGHT
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:33 pm

    May I request a nice-looking female to do that cavity search? And may I have a drink?

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  50. Midwest ValuesComment by Midwest Values
    November 16, 2010 @ 1:35 pm

    Oh we are grown up all right. Grown up enough to know when the govt is being intrusive and our 4th amendment rights are being trampled. 3,000 people have died from terrorists. Bad enough, that’s true. However, more die every day from car accidents, drugs, crime etc. Its time to put this in perspective and realize there are better ways to prevent attacks than personally assaulting every single passenger who wants travel by air. Please get real and understand the implications of “bending over” on this. It will only get worse. And why aren’t the airlines outraged and protesting that the TSA is going to irreparably harm their industry?

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