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No coffins, no embalming: Residents unhappy with plans for Muslim cemeteries

April 28, 2016 at 11:51 am 88 News
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DUDLEY, Mass. (AP) — On the site of a long-idle dairy farm, leaders of a local mosque hope to build a final resting place for about 500 Muslim families – to the dismay of many residents of this quaint town in central Massachusetts.

In arguments cemetery developers and activists decry as thinly veiled bigotry, neighbors say they fear burial practices could contaminate groundwater because Muslims traditionally do not embalm bodies and bury their dead without coffins. They also cite concerns about noise, vandalism and increased traffic on the narrow road where the cemetery would be built. One resident said he worried he would have to put up with “crazy music” like the Islamic call to prayer.

Similar sentiments have been expressed by people in communities around the country where Muslim cemeteries have been proposed, including Farmervsille, Texas; Walpole, Massachusetts; Carlisle, Pennsylvania; and Farmington, Minnesota.

In some cases, opponents have succeeded in defeating the new cemetery projects, while in others, Muslim groups have appealed and judges have cleared the way.

In Farmersville, near Dallas, some residents were openly hostile during meetings on a proposal to build a Muslim cemetery on a 35-acre site just outside the city. Farmersville is not far from Garland, where police fatally shot two Islamic State followers last year after they opened fire outside a cartoon contest lampooning the Prophet Muhammad.

“People don’t trust Muslims. Their goal is to populate the United States and take it over,” Barbara Ashcraft said during a meeting in August.

“You’re not welcome here!” another man yelled, according to news accounts.

City leaders were so bombarded with complaints that they published an informational guide on the city’s website, assuring residents that there is “no training facility planned for this site … no terrorist activity associated with this site … no plans for a mosque at this site.”

Diane Piwko, a Farmersville resident and business owner, said she worries the cemetery – proposed for prime property overlooking a lake – won’t be maintained and will become an eyesore at the entrance to the city.

“I am not basing any of my decision on why I’m against the cemetery on religion,” she said. “I base it on bad business practices.”

Muslim leaders have been taken aback by the level of resistance.

“We were absolutely flabbergasted, to be honest, to see that kind of opposition,” said Ismail Fenni, a representative of Al-Marhama Islamic Burial, which wants to build a cemetery in Walpole, south of Boston.

“All we’re trying to establish is a place for a final resting place for the loved ones of the Muslim community members,” he said. “No other activity is going to be happening in a cemetery except what is customary for a cemetery.”

There are relatively few dedicated Muslim cemeteries around the country, so many Muslim communities use sections of other cemeteries to bury their dead.

In Dudley, the proposal from the Islamic Society of Greater Worcester has been met with angry comments at local meetings.

“You want a Muslim cemetery? Fine. Put it in your backyard, not mine,” Daniel Grazulis said during a zoning meeting in February, drawing a round of applause.

Jason Talerman, a lawyer for the Islamic Society, said he believes the opposition is rooted in Islamophobia.

“They like to say it under the guise of, ‘Oh, we’re just trying to protect our water supply,’ but it’s thinly veiled,” he said.

Desiree Moninski, who lives across the street from the site, once farmed by her grandparents, said she and other opponents have legitimate concerns that have nothing to do with Islam.

“I grew up here. It’s farmland, and I’d like to see it stay that way,” she said.

“A lot of people moved here because it’s peaceful and quiet. I just don’t want a cemetery here, period. Any kind of cemetery. It doesn’t matter what kind.”

In January, a Minnesota judge overturned a local board’s denial of a permit for a cemetery near Farmington. In his written ruling, Judge David Knutson called the denial “arbitrary and capricious.” The judge said the proposal was rejected despite a “lack of any justification based on the health, safety and general welfare of the local residents.”

In West Pennsboro Township, Pennsylvania, a local board rejected a plan for a cemetery proposed last year by the Bosniak Islamic Cultural Center of Carlisle. A judge quickly overturned that ruling.

Douglas Cwienk, a hydrogeologist who testified for the Muslim group proposing the Pennsylvania cemetery, said that Muslim burial practices are unlikely to contaminate wells or groundwater, and that not embalming is better for local groundwater in most cases. (Jewish tradition also prohibits embalming.)

In Dudley, Muslim leaders have agreed to bury bodies in coffins or concrete vaults to appease residents on contamination concerns. Muslim families in the area currently bury their dead in a cemetery in Enfield, Connecticut – about 60 miles away.

Amjad Bhatti, president of the Islamic Society, said some of the comments have hurt because he considers the U.S. his home after moving from Pakistan 20 years ago and raising his family here.

“They belong to this land now,” he said. “This is our country.”

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  1. frainhrc April 28, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    If it is your Country then why don’t you wish to assimilate and follow its norms? When you form groups to fight back against terrorists, assure no support to them from peaceful Muslims, stop the hateful parades in our towns that demean and slur Christians then perhaps we’ll be more open to your desires when within reason. When will you understand that it’s not your religion per se or the color of your skin that has Americans upset and afraid of you, it’s some of your member’s actions and hate. When the peaceful Muslims become proactive to stop that behavior you will be welcome like other legal immigrants.

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    • Barbara April 28, 2016 at 3:52 pm

      The British college professor who came up with islamophobia is back tracking on his statement. He says what he said was all wrong —that these people are dangerous to all of us.!!!!

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    • notw April 28, 2016 at 6:06 pm

      What would happen if a truck with pig manure ran off the road
      and fertilized the fields. could they be used then?
      Maybe some pigs were on that dairy farm to begin with. Search it out.

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    • axmann1 April 28, 2016 at 6:10 pm

      Health concerns are a valid reason to deny the cemetery, until the effects of rotting bodies are shown to have no impact on local soil and groundwater. All cemeteries should be located with the concurrence of the local community to avoid disputes, lowering of home and property prices, and cultural concerns.

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    • 7789361 April 28, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      It isn’t racism to refute a diabolical worldview. Arab Christians and ones with different religious-worldviews are persecuted in Muslim countries. This is what Muslims are told to do to people who resist Islam, by their religious book in Sura 5:33,” Their punishment is execution, or crucifixion, or cutting off hands and feet or exile from the land.” In Sura 9:5, “Fight and slay the infidels (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.” I suppose this is what “peace be upon him”, speaking of their prophet means.

      So-called “neutral” Secular Humanism The new State sanctioned religion in Government, Law and Education of the US imposes its values of no creator of the universe or man, and no moral absolutes on everyone today. It persecutes Christians too. When secular humanists tell you they have no religious worldview which indoctrinates malleable school children using adult school teachers starting with Kindergarteners, they are being dishonest. When our school teachers led us in The Lord’s Prayer, it was unthinkable that one day a new State sanctioned constitutional worldview would be normalizing promiscuous sex, and homosexuality to them, by government legislation as it is today.

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    • Bayushi Zero April 28, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      Actually, their “religion” cult is the primary problem. Islam is a theocratic ideology of murder, rape and conquest. Muhammed was a warlord, slaver, pedophile and rapist.

      The other thing contributing to the problem is that the large majority of Arab Muslims are inbred and the majority of the Islamic extremism comes from Saudi Arabia. Arab Muslims have been inbreeding for generations and it has had a deleterious effect on their overall intelligence, leading them to being more susceptible to the idiocy of Islam and thus more violent, especially if they’re Wahabbists.

      Islam has no redeeming values whatsoever. It is a blight upon Asia and a societal cancer. The honest truth is that the only cure is complete eradication.

      This is the existential battle of the 21st century, where National Socialism and Communism were the same for the 20th century.

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    • purpleredmonster April 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm

      We know so little about Islam and typically what we are told is in essence a lie. A few years ago our secretary of state and one of our ambassadors met with a Mr. Abdrahaman to discuss troubles that were occurring in the north Africa area. Mr. Abdrahaman was paraphrasing the Koran’s “rules of engagement” found in the 47 Surah: “Whenever you encounter the ones who disbelieve [during wartime], seize them by their necks until once you have subdued them, then tie them up as prisoners, either in order to release them later on, or also to ask for ransom, until war lays down her burdens.” Unless a nation submitted to Islam, whether it was the aggressor or not, that nation was by definition at war with Islam. Now before people get too excited let me state that this took place in 1786 when John Adams and Thomas Jefferson went to London and met the envoy from Tripoli. Please note that things have not changed. So as members of Islam force their positions on us realize that they are at war with us.

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 8:59 pm

      frainhrc, you’re giving them way more credit than I am willing to do, by assuming there ARE any “peaceful” Muslims. My opinion is there are the “violent” Muslim jihadis, and then there are the “non-violent” jihadis, whose job is to come here, breed like COCKROACHES until they overrun us, and STEAL our country out from under us at the ballot box. This is what they have done in other places. They are an INVASIVE horde of THIEVES whose only desire is to conquer the world and spread their FILTHY death cult of “Islam” to the ends of the earth by stealing other people’s countries and DESTROYING other cultures in favor of their own.

      They are like that bird that lays its eggs in another bird’s nest to be hatched by the unwitting mother bird, and when they hatch, will kill HER offspring so she will feed only THEM.

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    • greyguy April 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm

      In the meantime Everytime there is an out break of Muslims wanting to develop land for whatever reason, start trucking in the Pig Blood and contaminate the land as has been done in several locations around the US…SOMETIMES ITS CALLED FERTILIZER IN MY AREA. Stops um cold every time.

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    • hpinnc April 28, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      What really makes me mad is in my state we have burial laws everyone has to abide by, one of which he body has to be put in a coffin, & all that I have seen, have to be put in a vault too. These yahoos come over here from a muslim land that they are free to practice their stupid religion in, I say it is not a true religion it is a cult.They want us to accommodate them in every way, if they want to come her, they should abide by our laws or stay in the lands they came from. If they are not happy with our culture & our laws, they should go back where they came from. They cause trouble everywhere they go. They can’t see how stupid & one-sided their beliefs are. Their leader, Mohammed, was a pedophile & lover of goats. Looks to me like after 1400 yrs. they would have figured out how silly & dumb their “religion” is. They are just a bunch of ignorant savages who need to stay where they can practice their beliefs w/o interference for others who don’t believe their B/S.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:42 am

      If they don’t wanna embaln the bodies or put them in caskets, then take them back over to the ‘holy lands’ and bury them there. Either abide by OUR country’s laws, and put them in a casket/bury them or get out..

      I am getting sick to my stomach over all this bowing down just to give muslims special treatment..

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    • dennis123 April 29, 2016 at 7:41 am

      They can only assimilate to a degree because it is a religious thing and it appears that Muslims practice their religion more then Christians and that can be problematic.I don’t personally believe that America was designed for Muslims with their music and head coverings the whole 9 yards but they are here to stay.The Constitution protects their freedom to worship as they see fit,it’s the Christians that are the problem,lol lol.Just joking but it is beginning to appear that way.Liberals are all for it but what liberals forget is that Muslims don’t look well upon same gender sex and marriage and transgender toilets,and they believe that men are 1st and woman 2nd,this stuff will come back and bite the behinds of liberals and they are drowing in numbers.

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  2. disqus_DW3qxKdlwn April 28, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    Communities may NOT prohibit religious religious use nor prohibit educational use of a given land. This law is called the Dover Amendment. With that said, that Muslim cemetery can NOT be prohibited. Beside doesn’t the First Amendment rights extend to Muslims as well? I say that it does.

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    • mikeb April 28, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      So I start a cemetery in my back yard? Nonsense. Zoning laws are zoning laws.

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    • deedee3 April 28, 2016 at 4:16 pm

      NO NO NO….NO embalming…no coffin…no cemetery !!!! That is barbaric and DISGUSTING ! Get with our ways or GET THE HELL OUT !!!!!

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      disquis, if Islam was an actual RELIGION–and not a FASCIST movement for world domination MASQUERADING as a religion in order to hide behind Western countries’ “religious rights” while they plot to overrun and conquer us, then it would apply. But our Constitution does NOT require us to “tolerate” seditionist INVADERS in our midst whose objective is to replace our Constitutional form of government with their filthy “sharia law”.

      In fact, if our laws were being enforced, there would BE NO MUSLIMS in the US. Chapter 2, Section 212 of the US Immigration law of 1952–the one STILL in effect today–says that NO person who is a member of any organization that seeks to overthrow by violent means our form of government and Constitution can be admitted to the US as an “immigrant”. Therefore, not a single ONE of these invasive, MURDEROUS cockroaches should have been let into the US as ALL are members of just such an organization.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:43 am

      But we ARE allowed to discriminate against religions for health and safety reasons.. Its called Zoning laws.

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    • xlncskip April 29, 2016 at 11:10 am

      Newsflash…Islam is NOT a religion. It is a political-philosophy/script that instructs the adherents to spread Islam and eradicate infidels. It has religious overtones as camouflage.

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    • disqus_DW3qxKdlwn April 29, 2016 at 11:30 am

      Folks: When I speak on the Dover Amendment, I am speaking on Massachusetts General Law (MA State Law) Section 40A prohibit communities from zoning out religious use and educational use, however size and dimensional aspect is STILL subject to regulation. For example, communities may require off-street parking for the church that be adequate.

      I am speaking on the matter of STATE LAW in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in regard to zoning. Under the FEDERALIST system, MA is within their right to have the Dover Amendment on the books and nobody outside of Massachusetts can legally force Massachusetts to repeal it.

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    • petroskhan April 29, 2016 at 9:55 pm

      You’ll support the Muzzies in this, yet you would likely support forcing Christians to bake a cake for homosexuals, or photograph their “wedding”, or other such claptrap.

      And as for the 1st Amendment, that’s all well and good, but we do have a federal law, 18 USC 2385, “Advocating the Overthrow of the Government”; if one would take the time to read it, Islam falls under this category, and is therefore illegal; ergo, Muslims should not, and legally CAN not, be allowed in the United States.

      You want to cite, and claim we should abide by, the law? I can play that game, too.

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  3. slick April 28, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    All of you liberals should take a bow. You’ve done a good job, along with your little presidente, at screwing up this country.

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:35 pm

      slick, you would THINK the liberals would have noticed what has happened to Europe after they were all tolerant and let HORDES of these cockroaches come flooding into their countries, and would sit down and SHUT UP about how we should all “tolerate” and LOVE the cockroaches.

      Taking in Muslims is EXACTLY like the story about the woman who took in the half-frozen poisonous snake she found on the path and saved its life, and was bitten for her troubles, and as she lay dying and asked why the snake had killed her after she saved its life, it said, “I can’t help it–that’s my nature. You knew I was a snake when you took me in.”

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  4. humboldt April 28, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    It worked for the ‘wise guys’ for decades. We should be happy a few of the islamic, muslims are being buried.

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    • jebor April 28, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      I would prefer “burial at sea”, with Osama.

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    • rivahmitch1 April 28, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      I’d recommend cremation, either pre or post mortem.

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:37 pm

      NOT without embalming and a coffin as required by LAW most places, humboldt! We are NOT required to adapt their barbaric customs. THEY are supposed to adapt to OUR culture and customs if they want to live here!

      If they don’t want to embalm, then they can cremate. They’re just running another of their CONSTANT whinefests to force US to adapt to THEIR primitive, BACKWARD “culture”.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:45 am

      I agree teabag. BUT we do give the same ‘consideration to Jews” in the US.. So there is precedent.

      BUT imo they should be required to bury the dead (IF in the USA) the same as anyone else.. Put it in a damn casket or cremate it.

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    • oleteabag April 29, 2016 at 9:38 pm

      Not the same thing at ALL, ituser. For openers, Judaism is an actual RELIGION, and they’re not trying to take over the world or KILL everybody who is not Jewish.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser April 30, 2016 at 12:43 am

      True but i just was trying to point out, we already do give religious exemptions for burials.

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  5. Barbara April 28, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Well, well, Mass. now you are finally getting that we the people having been trying to tell you for how long now. You gave these people your open arms and now look at what you have. You gave them an inch and they have taken a mile. What is happening in England RIGHT NOW —will happen here if you don’t join the rest of them and getting them out of here. THEY WILL PUSH AND BULLY THEIR WAY ON ALL OF US. tHEY BEEN WANTING THIS AND WANTING THAT. STOP BEFORE IT GET ANY WORSE. TELL THESE PEOPLE NO. AND SEND THEM BACK HOME. YOU CAN THANK YOUR OBAMA FOR THESE MESS. He is laughing his rear off behind your back.!!!!1

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  6. amazedhuman April 28, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    Residents are ‘unhappy’ about this? The residents had darn sure better start standing up and putting a stop to the nonsense. These people come into OUR country, then they need to play by OUR rules. Being politically correct has put America in the crosshairs of every single lunatic fringe outfit on the planet. It’s time for that to stop. Get these people either under control, or out of our nation. There is not a single solitary country on earth where people can flood in and demand things be done their way like the Muslims are attempting to do here. And America has got to get back to being strong, solid, and unified against this influx of stupidity. Which is exactly what it is. Get real or get gone. Simple as that!

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    • jebor April 28, 2016 at 3:51 pm

      Not imagration, INVASION !

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    • deedee3 April 28, 2016 at 4:11 pm

      You are so RIGHT……GO TRUMP !!!!

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    • Goldminer April 29, 2016 at 10:29 am

      Most of the comments are very accurate and VERY on point! So many people in our nation (and particularly the young) are soooo ignorant of not only world history, but also our own history and our form of government and, NO, we are NOT a democracy!! I fully agree with you: come to America to BE a US citizen, assimilate, adapt, or do NOT come here! There is NO requirement in our Constitution that WE have to adapt to those who come here or to give up our values for theirs and make them feel “good.” That is, frankly, a disaster. How many people who go to an Islamic country demand pork because they like it and eat it at home and if they don’t get it, they sue the restaurant owner? Think it would work? NO!! WE are AMERICANS: NOT globalist wimps!

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  7. hardheaded
    hardheaded April 28, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Frankly, what’s wrong with the local cemetery, is it full? and why can’t they just bury them like we do, a body is like any other body, it’s a body, the soul or the ensents has left the body. That is how we here in the America do it. Why do you need to change it?

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    • oafdawg April 28, 2016 at 3:50 pm

      You’re assuming Muslims have souls!

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:49 pm

      hardheaded, I’m sure they would NEVER want to be buried in the SAME dirt as us mere infidels. No, they require their OWN special everything. THAT is how they steal your culture and replace it with with their own, BACKWARD 7th Century ideas!

      Just because it is what they WANT, however, does NOT mean we have to give it to them. If they are too good to be buried next to infidels, then they can be CREMATED. But what they CAN’T do is poison the ground water and pollute the earth with bare naked, UNEMBALMED dead bodies. UGH. Primitive barbarians! The more I learn about their backward, 7th Century “culture”, the more REPULSIVE I find it!

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:47 am

      I agree teabag. I doubt they would ever wanna get placed in mere common (infidel infested) cemeteries.

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    • paoldguy May 1, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      Lots of Christian Churches and Jewish congregations have their own cemeteries. There are special cemeteries for veterans. The idea of a Muslim congregation wanting their own is really not a strange one

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  8. taxed2deth April 28, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    Why hasn’t someone strewn bacon and pork rinds all over the property? That should slow things down a touch.

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      taxed2deth, it would be better to just run a herd of LIVE PIGS onto the property. I’m pretty sure after the pigs do their business all over that dirt, they wouldn’t want to be buried there!

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  9. hardheaded
    hardheaded April 28, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    oafdawg

    You’re right, I assuming sorry about that, won’t let it happen again.

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  10. deedee3 April 28, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    Their customs are not only barbaric and disgusting, but a threat to health and the environment. If they cannot live with our rules and regulations….maybe they should just go back to where they came from. We won’t miss them.

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  11. disqus_aFy5JVzmli April 28, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    Tell the damned muslims to integrate into our society or get the hell out and go back to the hell hole they came from.
    DON’T COME TO OUR COUNTRY AND TRY TO CREATE THE SAME BS YOU CREATED IN YOUR COUNTRY.
    YOU CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM IT REMEMBER?????

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    • hpinnc April 29, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Very well stated, sir!!!!

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  12. gentlemanjim April 28, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Not a problem, we’ll dig the hole with a backhoe and then put all of the Muslims in that hole and bury them!

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    • oleteabag April 29, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      Good point, ituser. it certainly is NOT irrational to fear them, or to HATE THEM, either. In fact, I think that is the only RATIONAL response to these inbred savages! They’ve been inbreeding for centuries, and at THIS point are genetically damaged SUB-HUMANS, at best!

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  13. Tom April 28, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    Jason Talerman falls back on the same tired old attack used every time Muslims or any other such historically and proven intolerant group wants to pull something heinous and meets well-thought out and meaningful moral resistance. This attack is to blindly accuse any who does not blindly submit or go along with the will of the intolerant of being bigots, racists, or in the cases such as this, “Islamophobic.”

    The actual truth is that bigotry, racism, and islamophobia are all the wrong words to describe what is actually the truth here. The correct word is “takiyya”.

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    • Bayushi Zero April 28, 2016 at 7:56 pm

      *taqiyya

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      Tom, don’t know about you, but I get really TIRED of being called “Islamophobic”. “phobia” implies that you are AFRAID of whatever you are “phobic” about. I do NOT fear them. I HATE THEM. There IS a difference!

      Unlike the liberals, I know an ENEMY when I see one, and ISLAM is the ENEMY of freedom. It is FASCIST in nature. The Muslims were ALLIES of Hitler in WWII, after all. So they can embrace this filthy death cult and call it a “religion” if they want to, but I’m not buying it. They are the NAZIS of the 21st Century, and the enemies of us ALL.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:49 am

      Actually teabag. A Phobia is an Irrational fear of something. With all we have seen what Islam does to the rest of the world, its NOT irrational to fear (or hate them).. On the contrary, its VERY rational!

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  14. The Dutchman April 28, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    Just turn a bunch of pigs loose on the property, problem solved!

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    • Bayushi Zero April 28, 2016 at 8:01 pm

      Texas has an excess of wild hogs. They’re usually hunted and slaughtered, though I’m sure that patriotic Texans would be happy to capture and ship several dozen to Massachusetts to tell the Muslims to piss off.

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  15. papasparky April 28, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    Find an old timer who “remembers” when the site was a pig farm before it was a dairy farm and have him tell a newspaper reporter . . . problem solved!

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    • deedee3 April 28, 2016 at 5:26 pm

      Good idea…

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  16. Tom April 28, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    (Part 02)

    As such, it is only wise and prudent to pay close attention to what is really going on when someone tries to persuade you or those who would be your representatives to permit someone or something that has consistently proven to be a lethal threat into your home or your community. Islam demands that all of its adherents support and/or indulge in jihad. For them, crime, destruction, barbarity, mutilation, subversion, and even murder are all ordained and even sanctioned under Muhammad, in the writings they follow including the Quran/Koran and by edict of Imams, Mullahs, and Ayatollahs everywhere. After all, who in their right mind would even consider allowing a mad, ravenous, rabid, vicious dog move into or reside within your community or allow the same inside your home with your family and your children. It would take someone who is truly suicidal, delusional, or who is an absolute traitor in every since of the word. And yet, bringing such rabid dogs into our communities, homes, and in among us is precisely what our would-be leaders (including Barack Hussein Soetorro Saborka (not really sure of the spelling of these two supposedly stolen identity names) Obama (in my humble opinion, the criminal petty little tyrant Muslim Islamic Jihadist-in-chief) and the very Muslims working to subvert our nation and others while enacting stealth and overt jihad in the process. And “takiyya” is the primary means being used to accomplish this jihad.

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  17. Tom April 28, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    (Part 03)

    It is precisely because of takiyya that wise and prudent civilized and decent people, including Jews and Christians, cannot and must not believe a single word uttered by any Muslim or trust them in anyway ever. For what is takiyya? Simply put, it is the Islamic practice of intentional sanctioned lies, deception, subversion and misdirection of every form considered right and just when used to further jihad and the aims of Islam in every way. In such use, it is completely acceptable and even required for Muslims to be valued and treasured friends to your face, entering your home as guests, and then rape and butcher your wife and children in the name of Muhammad and stab you in the back, literally. In fact, this has happened on numerous occasions and is well documented. For them, giving their word or entering into agreements mean nothing and they can lie, twist, or renig on anything without guilt or shame for their guile and evil deceptions. With this said, how in the world could anyone in their right mind ever believe or trust the word of any Muslim Islamist anywhere in any way?

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  18. Tom April 28, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    (Part 04)

    And yet, to disbelieve their word concerning their construction of Mosques, cemetaries, shrines, community or supposed civic centers, and anything else they can turn into Islamic Jihadi recruitment, supply and command centers is somehow supposedly racist or so called islamophobic. Really? And just how many Muslim homes, mosques, and the like have been proven to hold surveillance information, jihadi paraphanalia, plans for jihad and murder, and worse? Too many! This is how I and anyone else with any morality and intelligence can say definitively “no” to the will of Islamist, even with regard to building cemeteries and how we can demand that not only our government stop importing them and their vile evil Islam into the USA, but deport those that are already here, including those in their thirty some odd terrorist training camps spread around our nation and in Dearborn, Michigan. They, their quran and Muhammad, and their evil Islam are most certainly not welcome here. They are all welcome to return home where they have been and continue to destroy Christian and Jewish structures, rape, murder, and deface and destroy valuable historic relics and cities that have the misfortune to exist among these ungrateful, primitive, backword, and likely inbred pig droppings scum.

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  19. RNavyVet April 28, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    There is always cremation, oh I suppose they don’t believe in that either.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:51 am

      No but they do believe in blowing themselves up to kill infidels..

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  20. deedee3 April 28, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Tom….I love your writing…you say it all so eloquently. Thank you …YOU GOT IT !

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  21. millerstwo April 28, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    Ingrates!
    These stinking filthy pork sucking cowards and their pedophile profit Mohammerhead are the most hypocritical liars since Hillary Clinton!
    How dare they come to our Country and demand that we cow-tow to their every wish and demand even after we ‘GIVE THEM’ all that our wonderful Country has to give…FOR FREE!!!!! Sounds familiar doesn’t it?, as we already have a home grown group doing the same thing!
    The reason these imbeciles are even here is because of their sick life style and the way they choose to live. They transitioned their original disgusting sand dune Homeland into an even worse huge pork laden **** with sand on it …..so the next time they come a knockin’ for more ‘free bees’ all I can say to them one and all is…..’F**K YOU’!!!!

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  22. camille522 April 28, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Sorry will be any community that allows any Muslim into their community for any reason. This is their game…Move in and slowly start making demands to have a Muslim this or a Muslim that. Next thing you know, you’re no longer in charge of your community, they are. The Muslims are here for only one thing..conquer and then kill anyone who objects or tries to stop them. You are a fool if you think it is anything different. Muslims should not be allowed to live in America because of this.

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    • Bayushi Zero April 28, 2016 at 8:04 pm

      Unfortunately, the Utopians are too ideologically retarded to understand this.

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:52 am

      And more than likely by the time they DO (on the off chance they have a moment of clarity), it will be too late to do anything.

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  23. xlncskip April 28, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    NEWSFLASH!!!!! You folks are NOT in the Middle East. You have CHOSEN to come HERE. THAT means that YOU adapt to us and our mores, NOT us adapting to you and yours! You don’t like it, then you may leave and we’ll take care of turning off the lights.

    I refuse to cooperate with your Muhammad dictate to conquer the entire planet and install Islam wherever you land. Adapt or leave! You may also stop bitchin’ about not getting your way!

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  24. mjazz April 28, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    In Santa Clara, a church and a business were denied building on property because the water table was too high.
    Yet they approved of a mosque with a cemetery- even though there are wells nearby.
    Here Muslims receive special rights denied others:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/11/not_the_little_mosque_on_the_prairie.html

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    • oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      I guess that is no surprise, mjazz, when our government has already been infiltrated and OVERRUN with Muslim Brotherhood PLANTS, thanks to our traitorous Muslim-In-Chief. The process of “taking over” is already well underway, when so MANY of them have been insinuated into positions of power and authority over us in the government.

      ANOTHER good reason not to vote for a Commucrat, EVER. They have NO SENSE, and should NEVER be trusted anywhere NEAR political power, because they apparently never MET an oppressive and totalitarian government system or culture they didn’t like! The irony is, the COMMUNISTS who have taken over the Democrat Party think they are “using” the Muslims to advance their power. In fact, the Muslims are using THEM to get the power to overrun and conquer us!

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      ltuser April 29, 2016 at 1:54 am

      That’s cause since our Muslim in chief got into the white house, every governmental agency seems hell bent on caving into all demands muslims make, while doing all they can to deny the same to Christians…

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  25. oleteabag April 28, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    ““We were absolutely flabbergasted, to be honest, to see that kind of opposition,” said Ismail Fenni, a representative of Al-Marhama Islamic Burial, which wants to build a cemetery in Walpole, south of Boston.”

    I’m sure they WERE “absolutely flabbergasted” that Americans are smart enough not to be taken in by the BS these INVASIVE COCKROACHES use to push themselves in and take over entire countries.

    As for their filthy cemeteries, the residents have a VALID complaint. The burial of unembalmed bodies just thrown into the ground with no coffin could very WELL result in the contamination of ground water, and cause diptheria and God knows WHAT diseases.

    MOST places in America, bodies are REQUIRED to be embalmed for this reason! WHY should these foreign INVADERS get a “pass” on health and sanitary requirements? As I’ve said before, if they don’t want to assimilate, adapt to our culture and FOLLOW OUR LAWS and health/safety regulations, then they are welcome to return to whatever Middle Eastern or African HELLHOLE they fled from to COME here. I’m sure I am not the ONLY American who is sick of these pushy, demanding COCKROACHES always pushing their FILTHY DEATH CULT and barbarian culture in our faces and demand WE adapt to THEM. My answer is not just NO, but HELL NO!

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