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Chamber will support establishment candidates against Tea Party

By Washington Times (DC)

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce's new push to get involved in Republican primaries by defending incumbents against tea party challengers could actually make it easier to unseat them, according to the head of the influential Club for Growth.

Chris Chocola, the club's president, said the battle between the chamber, which he said advocates big business, and the rank-and-file free-market conservatives whom his group represents is well underway as Republicans try to field their candidates for the 2014 congressional elections.

The latest fight is shaping up in Idaho, where the chamber announced this week that it will run ads defending incumbent Rep. Michael K. Simpson, a Republican, against a challenge by lawyer Bryan Smith. The club has endorsed Mr. Smith.

"The chamber is pro-business and we are pro-free market, and that is the difference," Mr. Chocola told The Washington Times. "The opposing views are not new, but there seems to be some heightened interest from the establishment types to get involved in a race like Idaho. If that heightened interest continues there might be more chances that we end up on opposite sides."

The fissures within the Republican Party began at the end of the Bush administration but have intensified in the wake of the 2012 elections, with groups such as the Chamber of Commerce and Karl Rove's super PAC American Crossroads signaling that they plan to play a larger role in GOP primaries after watching tea party-backed candidates win the nomination but then lose to Democrats in general elections that analysts said were winnable. Examples are the 2010 U.S. Senate races in Nevada and Delaware.

Republican consultant Kevin Madden said the business community generally stayed on the sidelines in primary races, leaving the playing field open for the Club for Growth and other groups that have focused most of their attention on toppling establishment candidates.

"That has changed," Mr. Madden said. "I think it is going to be a more competitive advocacy environment. I don't see them going head to head, but I think these business organizations are going to be much more active in shaping the opinions of persuadable voters in races that matter."

Indeed, the chamber vows to be involved this election cycle and has left the door open to entering more primary races.

"We believe the stakes for the American economy and the business community are high, and we plan to vigorously participate in the 2014 elections," said Blair Latoff Holmes, a chamber spokeswoman. "Job No. 1 is protecting and expanding the pro-business majority in the House and gaining seats in the Senate."

"We will continue to evaluate our involvement in 2014 as we always have, measuring candidates records and positions on a broad range of issues important to the business community," she said.

But Mr. Chocola believes Republican voters are keen to break with what they see as big business interests, and having the chamber involved will help define the battle lines.

"We are happy to have people define the difference between the candidates and we think that, certainly in Idaho, they are helping," he said.

Other races where the chamber is taking sides include a House seat in Alabama, where the organization backed Bradley Byrne over tea party-backed Dean Young, calling Mr. Byrne the best candidate "to help grow our economy, create jobs and put our nation back on a sustainable fiscal path."

In West Virginia, the chamber is backing Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, who is running for U.S. Senate, and Evan Jenkins, who is running for a U.S. House seat.

The business group threw its financial weight into the GOP primary in Kentucky, where Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is facing off against Matt Bevin.

In Idaho, the pro-Simpson ad warns that the free-enterprise system is under attack from House Democratic Leader "Nancy Pelosi and her allies who want more government, more spending and more regulations."

"Mike Simpson is fighting back, working for a balanced budget, reducing our dependence on foreign oil and fixing the Obamacare mess," the narrator says in the ad. "Mike Simpson, conservative, Idaho strong."

Responding to the ad, Mr. Chocola said he is not surprised that the chamber would back Mr. Simpson since both supported the $700 billion Wall Street bailout in 2008 and backed raising the nation's borrowing limit by trillions of dollars.

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  1. missieb2000Comment by missieb2000
    December 9, 2013 @ 9:20 am

    There was a time when the difference was that if an establishment candidate won the primary, conservatives would hold their nose and vote for them. That stopped in 2012 and if the GOP doesn’t get with the program, they will be the ‘new Tories’ and will lose every time without the conservative base.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 9, 2013 @ 9:39 am

      Yes I was one who held my nose to vote for some of Rino’s. No more I lived in Arizona the last time McCain was up for election for the Senate I held my nose and turn my back when I voted. When will the GOP learn that is was the Tea Party that got them the majority in the House in 2010.

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    • gopluvaComment by gopluva
      December 9, 2013 @ 9:41 am

      You are right. Roves super pac would be an enormous help to conservatives winning. Why the repubs cant come together like the dems do is beyond me,all I can figure is because the GOPZ wants to be too moderrate and forego values to get votes.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 9, 2013 @ 10:08 am

      gopluve
      Sorry but I don’t see Rove as a help. He is not a real Conservative.He was the best help the Democrats in 2008, 2010 and 2012. Rove is the leader of the Rino’s. if Rove succeeds in keeping the Tea Party candidates off the ballets the GOP will lose. When was the last time Rove picked a real winner? He didn’t even support Reagan in the primaries in 1980. The only reason Rove had anything with Reagan’s administration is that he back Bush Sr. Look at the Tea Party candidates that got no support from the GOP and lost in the last two election.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:29 am

      Three cheers for rove!

      He is/was the ‘architect of the biggest spending ‘republican’ administration.

      He also gets the nod for the NDAA massive assault on the Freedoms and Liberties on the American People.

      He also led the charge to get ‘immigration’ laws thrown out and ignored by both administrations.

      He is responsible for the 45-50 million illegal aliens in this country based on his helpful refusal to allow funding for the border control plans, allowing for unlimited criminals to enter this country.

      Rove was Bush jr’s valerie jarret.

      Not a nickles woth of difference.

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    • greyfoxComment by greyfox
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:45 am

      I have been a republican for many years, initially supported the tea party but when you demanded purity in the party, I knew we had a bunch of idiots claiming to be a republican. Please regain your intelligence and quit nominating the idiots who have cost us 6 senate seats in the recent elections. Why did so many of you stay away and refuse to vote for Republican in the last presidential election? He did not have the 100% conservative plank so he was not worth your vote? Please tea party members, think of politics as a marriage. It is a compromise. When we refuse to vote for someone who is not 100% conservative, we put another Nancy Pelosi in power. I will vote for anyone on the “right” side of the isle versus the Nancy’s of world. O well, I guess you will just continue to cost the party elections.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:53 am

      greyfox…

      WE, The People have the RIGHT to demand anything we want.

      And THAT includes HONEST POLITICIANS that will honor their campaign promises.

      While you may not have the strength of Character to demand Integrity, the rest of us do.

      WE, The People, refuse to accept less than the best….

      Yet you tell us that the lowest common denominator is just as good?

      How has that made your life better?

      Still enjoy watching ‘swat’ teams going out and breaking down doors of ‘the wrong house’ and murdering innocent Citizens and never being held accountable?

      I can go down a very long list of government abuses of power that should have never been allowed by Honest Men and Women in political office.

      But you find them acceptable?

      The ‘republican’ party throws elections when they cannot control the candidate.

      WE, the Voters, do not ‘throw elections’ by refusing to vote for unqualified, dishonest persons of low Integrity and moral qualities.

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    • ksr1Comment by ksr1
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:53 am

      @ Greyfox, Agree, but one has to make sure that the ones picked are not just “LIB LITE”. A consrvative does have a chance if we follow the Regan 11th commandment of thou shall not talk bad of other REPs. Those who are RINOs (e.g. LG & MM) do us no favors. Part of the reason we lost is that the conservative side picked some of those too far off the right side of the scale, and had no chance in the general election. We need true conservatives who are electable and will not sell us out after they are in office.

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    • missieb2000Comment by missieb2000
      December 9, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

      @ greyfox- don’t try to blame me and other conservatives for the debacle known as Romney 2012. He outspent all of the better candidates, plus for those libertarians who think that their guy was all that great, who do you think fed all of the negative info about Cain to the msm? It is not my fault that I will not vote for whatever slop the gop serves up. If they want my vote they had better earn it, not expect me to keep coming back like a battered spouse.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

      missieb2000

      I wish I had said that.

      on a side note, I gave greyfox ONE star, but the system upped that to 3 stars.

      Is this site run by the same people that count democrat votes?

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 4:27 pm

      greyfox

      Just something for you to consider…

      Why would the party change anything as long as they OWN you and will vote for whoever they choose?

      I do hope you don’t get too much lint in your hair while your rolling around in the bottom of the party pocket.

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    • calizuz1Comment by calizuz1
      December 10, 2013 @ 5:18 pm

      Oh no, here we go again. Disagreeing to disagree. We have to stop all this bickering…..or we will surely sink. I agree with all of you with regards to Conservatives. There are Repubs and there are Repubs. The more Liberal they are the worse it is. However, we have to consider that a nonvote is a vote for the other side. We have to vote for who the person that has been selected to run against the Libs. Even if that person makes our stomachs turn.

      The Liberals truly think they have everything sewn up. They gleefully rejoice that all of a sudden the Tea Partiers are targets. GET OVER IT!

      Like theives in the night they steal our American identity. It is imperative that we stick together…..

      Cicero said it best:

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

      But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

      For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

      He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

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  2. BobinmsComment by Bobinms
    December 9, 2013 @ 9:40 am

    No news here. Maybe it will divert some of the chambers money away from support of the illegals.

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  3. ksr1Comment by ksr1
    December 9, 2013 @ 9:57 am

    My question is; Why can they not see the future in light of what has happened in 2012? The Karl Rove crowd and their likes screwed our chances for a win in the general elections last time around. Supporting MM from KY and those like him is just another way to say we want the same thing to happen again. We do not need a party full of “LIB Lights” doing our bidding. The real conservatives must step forward to place ELECTABLE true conservatives on the ballot. Since we have had all the “Hope” one can stand, now is the time for true “change” for our country to get this economy back on track.

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    • davnkatzComment by davnkatz
      December 9, 2013 @ 8:20 pm

      That word “electable” is misleading. In the last two elction cycle, more of the TEA Party got elected than GOP establishment incumbents. That happened despite the establishment GOP’s bad-mouthing and refusing to financially support TEA Partiers. Michelle was on a run-a-way until Rove and his bunch of RINOs/CINOs joined the libturds in castigating her. The TEAParty candidates who lost dang near upset the cart in spite of the establishment GOP’s disparaging tactics.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 8:31 pm

      davnkatz

      Odd isn’t it?

      Conservatives CAN WIN in spite of the ‘republicans’ doing their best to ensure they lose.

      It will continue to get better with each election cycle.

      And look for new Conservative Senators in November. And prepare for the lawsuits from both democrats and ‘republicans’ to contest the counts.

      And this time I sincerely hope they overplay their hands and commit provable felonies that we can force action on.

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  4. crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
    December 9, 2013 @ 10:41 am

    Anybody interested in the theory that the ‘republican’ failure to provide acceptable candidates is intentionally to lose political seats in favor of the democrats?

    Bush the elder, was no Conservative, but a left leaning moderate that was forced on Reagan in exchange for party support.

    When Reagan left after 8 years, the voters expected the Reagan policies to continue.
    They got stabbed in the back, so the voters started staying home on the Presidential ballot, and just voted for the lower seats.

    Dole was left of center and any, and ALL, Conservatives that tried for the nomination were told to drop out or lose and national funding for their next re-election campaign.

    GW was heralded as a “conservative” but outspent any democrats and never saw a spending bill he wouldn’t sign into law..

    mcKainnedy was the same. Useless as a Conservative that would rather sleep between kennedy and dodd than act like a (lower case) conservative.

    Romney, not a nickels worth of difference.

    In Colorado, the VOTERS chose Dan Maes and the party had no control over him, so they backed a third party intentionally to split the vote to ensure a democrat win. The same holds true for the ‘republican’ senate contender, none to very little support to beat the democrat candidate.

    It happens in every State and local level elections.

    Who seriously needs any ‘republican’ office holders?

    The party needs to learn that what they want has to be EARNED by providing Candidates that are not repugnant to the voters.

    The current failed ‘leadership’ in the party has no intention of releasing control until this nation is 100% socialist and under complete control of government.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:12 am

      crustyoldgeezer
      You are so right the so called GOP establishment remind me of a baseball team that would benches the players that help them win games. They would criticize one of their pitchers when he pitched a no hitter and hit a home run to win the game. If I thought a third party had a chance of winning that where I would be. Sad but too many times a vote for one of the GOP”s Rino’s is no better than a vote for s Democrat.

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  5. messupComment by messup
    December 9, 2013 @ 10:44 am

    Need proof We The Elite People of culture of corruption in ALL of Washington DC are crony capitalists??? They’re literally “circling-the-wagons” to protect their well organized, well ordered plans of: 1)greed, 2)power and 3)corruption. They have all We The People’s hard earned tax dollars and are going to fritter it all away just to hold on to their existing turfs and continue working to expand their tentacles into more avenues of fleecing We The People. Pay very close attention, “Too Big to Fail,” and Big Business are aligned to squeeze every last red cent from our cold, clenched fists with their crooked lawmakers in Washington DC. It’s obvious. Pray. Amen. Join a Tea Party urgently.

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  6. crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
    December 9, 2013 @ 11:37 am

    We can get a list of the biggest ‘republican’ donors and write them letters.

    “Dear Sirs,

    We understand that you support the status quo republicans for unlimited illegal immigration, government handouts to large corporations and other wastes of taxPAYER funds.

    We also realize that your products are duplicated in other countries and shipped to the United States.

    WE, the People have a choice.

    Buy your ‘American Made’ products, or buy from China.

    YOU also are given a choice.

    DEMAND Conservative Values from those you support and financially punish them for violating campaign promises, both past and future, and start supporting those groups that present American Candidates that Love and Support the Constitution….

    Or watch us send out money directly to China.

    Sincerely,

    (name withheld to confuse the nsa)”

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  7. constitutionalistComment by constitutionalist
    December 9, 2013 @ 11:43 am

    The formerly grand old party will be losing many more members.
    I live in AZ and totally agree about McCain and now he has been joined by Jeff Flake(another RINO showing his true colors). Because of them after many more years than I will tell I have left the former Republican party and will not hold my nose and vote for RINOS.

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 9, 2013 @ 12:01 pm

      So you will vote for the Rino’s and help the GOP keep losing elections.

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  8. handymanherbComment by handymanherb
    December 9, 2013 @ 11:46 am

    When will they learn that TEA Party is WE The PEOPLE, we don’t need anymore RINO’s all this chamber sounds like is more democrats who want to keep deluting the
    Republican Party with Dem lites

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  9. hardmanbComment by hardmanb
    December 9, 2013 @ 11:59 am

    Someone please, please post a list of these Chamber of Commerce RINOS who will be supported against conservative and tea party candidates.

    I need the list of names, so I can vote and donate against them.

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  10. gopuc12450Comment by gopuc12450
    December 9, 2013 @ 12:24 pm

    Personally, I will NOT vote for a RINO, nor an establishment lap-dog.
    A candidate without substance or a proven record, does not deserve my precious vote.
    Boehner, McCain et al, will not prevail just because Carl Rove chooses.
    Remember Rove’s assessment in the last election – so much for accuracy.

    If the Party don’t need my opinion, they don’t need my vote.

    check this out:
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/_T-F_zfoDqI?rel=0

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 9, 2013 @ 12:44 pm

      gopuc12450
      You so right Rino’s will not have my vote.

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  12. middlegroundComment by middleground
    December 9, 2013 @ 12:33 pm

    If the Tea Party had called itself the Anti-Inflation Party, the American-Patriots Party, the Anti-Colonial Party or some other name that even an idiot could understand, perhaps we wouldn’t be in the position of being more than 17 billion in debt with half that debt created by Obama’s policies. The only difference between Lenin’s Communist takeover of Russia and Obama’s Communist takeover of the US is that Obama needed to move slowly by shifting wealth to the rich and to a mass of unemployed, dependent poor. However, Obama’s background is so poor and so biased, he may not even be aware of the plans of those who placed him in the presidency and who are using environmentalism as a weapon or mask.

    Franklin, Jefferson, Madison and other colonial leaders have to have been fully aware that Britain’s plan for her colonies was to force them to remain dependent and controlled by Britain. In the 1770s the rallying cry for the common man may have been taxes and lack of representation, but the Royal Edict of 1764, which give the “Native Tribes” the potential coal and iron resources of western Pennsylvania, Alabama and what would became Michigan, Illinois and Minnesota, would have sent a clear message to those brilliant colonial leaders of Britain’s long term strategy – dependence on Britain for manufactured goods with the colonies furnishing only raw materials. King George was after all not only Britain’s king, but also king of Hanover, the center of modern German industry. In spite of how we may view the Hanover kings, they were extremely bright as well as pragmatic and by the 1770 German immigrant iron workers were flooding into the colonies for opportunities. You think they, as well as the Quakers from England’s Midlands wouldn’t have recognized pebbles of hematite iron ore in the stream bed of every river draining the Appalachians.

    Obama and the Democratic Party leadership’s plan for the US seems similar to King George’s plan; namely, to shut down our fossil fuel industry’s production of domestic power, thus to make us dependent on importing oil and natural gas from OPEC and shipping our own energy to China. When Obama attacked the use of domestic coal and claimed in September of 2012 that the US had only 3% of the World oil reserves and that windmills and solar panels were the answer to US energy needs, he was so far from reality and out of date that I knew he was getting his information from foreign interests or at least interests whose cancerous propaganda was being spread throughout our government. Cheap energy from dams and fossil fuels is the foundation of every nation’s industrial economy and most pragmatic economists know this and those who specialize in energy economics track every activity by the number of “energy slaves” necessary to accomplish a job. For example, if you drive a 200 horsepower car each horsepower is equivalent to 20 humanpower. So your car is actually a 4,000 peoplepower car. A 1910 car would probably have been only a 5 horsepower car and a modern jet aircraft equivalent to an army of people.

    Until fusion power comes online in what is believed to be 2030, we and the rest of humankind are stuck with dams, fossil fuels and fission power plants. Solar panels and windmills because they only work part time furnish supplemental power.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 1:38 pm

      Just to clarify a point you tried to make.

      IF Americans would get over the indoctrination of the last 50 or so years of the federal government and their union thugs and drones Indoctrinating Americas Youth in the government indoctrination and propaganda centers posing as ‘schools’ THE would understand what “TEA Party” is, means, and STANDS FOR.

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  14. diamondjimComment by diamondjim
    December 9, 2013 @ 1:49 pm

    I have no doubt that the Tea Party contributed to the capture of the House in 2010 through supporting and getting out the vote for conservative Republican candidates in the general election against Democrat opponents. Now, however,they seem to have forgotten that the first rule of elections is WINNING, and to do that you have to have ELECTABLE candidates! Losing on principle because our guy was “purer” in his conservatism, (especially on social issues)than his Democrat opponent may make you feel righteous, but it ain’t going to get the job done if we expect to win control of both legislative bodies and, eventually, the White House.

    Had the Tea Party not backed a two Moonbats and a couple more Neanderthals, there would be Republican Senators from Delaware, Missouri, and Indiana in the Senate right now AND we’d be free of Harry (The Weasel)Reid! Further, if so many true conservatives, (including evangelicals who just could not vote for “that Mormon”) had not stayed home in the 2012 presidential election we’d have Mitt Romney in the White House right now instead of Pinocchio Obama. O.K…..so Mitt was was perhaps not as ideologically “pure” as some would have liked, but for crying out loud, would he not have been better for the country, the world, and all of us individually than Obama?? Seems like a no-brainer to me, and frankly those who stayed home also appear,IMHO, to be no-brainers as well!

    While we waste time and money fighting among ourselves,Obama is using his second term to appoint legions of bureaucrats who are under civil service and not subject to removal by a Republican president, and these people will continue to perpetuate Obama’s policies through regulation and internal “guerrilla” action (or inaction) long after he has gone to play golf all day in Hawaii.

    Time to wake up, Tea Partiers, and stop pissing in the soup. We don’t need Hillary Clinton in the White House either!

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 1:59 pm

      “if so many true conservatives, (including evangelicals who just could not vote for “that Mormon”) had not stayed home in the 2012 presidential election we’d have Mitt Romney in the White House right now instead of Pinocchio Obama ”

      IF the ‘republican’ partyhad not spent so much time and money trashing Conservative to force the voters into voting for a very flawed person, we would have had a person in the White House that knows and understands the Constitution and the foundations this nation was built on.

      The ‘republican’ party threw the election by forcing the inacceptable on the table and forcing the Voters to make a choice.

      Their choice was to allow a known marxist to be elected rather than an unknown that owed his sole allegiance to the party elite.

      A known enemy is more easily controlled and defended against than a ‘friend’ with a very sharp knife in the middle of your back.

      IF we had HONEST people in all the RINO seats, we would not be having any problems controlling the slime in the white house.

      Wake up, grow up and stop telling us that we are too stupid to vote in the ‘right’ way.

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    • middlegroundComment by middleground
      December 9, 2013 @ 3:37 pm

      My point in criticizing the name Tea Party is that it defines the issue as only taxes and that is not the real issue. In addition, today’s students may not even know what the term “Boston Tea Party” means. They had to have had a traditional course in American History and it is my understanding that is not what is now being taught. It is like a comment by a person who claimed to have been in Barack Obama’s class on the Constitution. He reported the entire course was on the 14th Amendment and slavery, a minor issue.

      The real issue is centralized and total control of America by a Washington bureaucracy and in that manner is similar to Moscow’s control of the Soviet economy. Basically, it doesn’t work because it is inefficient and wasteful with the police state it needs to survive, a damper on all individual progress and initiative.

      The basic issue is do we want Obama’s Communism where the state chooses winners and losers or American free-enterprise where those who succeed have analyzed what our society needs and provide it. The free-enterprise system is vicious with few succeed and most fail, but the alternative is an Obama Commiczar deciding what is best for you and what companies should survive with state funding for the select.

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    • juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
      December 9, 2013 @ 6:36 pm

      First of all Diamondjim, Romney losing was not because of the Tea Party but because Romney himself was an underground Democrat just as McCain, McConnell, Paul Ryan just to name few are. As I watched the campaigning and debates not once did I hear Romney talk about the Obama Health Care bill. He was in favor of it. When asked by the media if he was sorry for instilling a similar program in Massachusetts he said he was not sorry. Why didn’t he go after Obama on Benghazi in the debate? He new that would have put him way out in front. The plan was for him to lose, just as it was for McCain. That is why the GOP establishment backed both of these losers. For sixty years the Democrats have been planting undergrounds in the Republican Party to establish a one party system. True Conservative Republicans would never have had the attitude to just go along to get along for votes. The Democrats and all of these underground Democrats in the Republican Party are more dangerous to our country than our enemies in the Middle East. And can anyone out there say with certainty Romney would have repealed Obama Care had he been voted in. And last, why are We the People allowing this man Barack Hussein Obama to turn our country into a Communist one? Have we all lost our minds?

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  15. gm1919Comment by gm1919
    December 9, 2013 @ 3:43 pm

    Who said we have to vote democrat or republican. I say we start a constitution party and get support from tea party, evangelicals and libertarians. I believe we would win. The democrats and republicans do not share my values and ignore the constitution. karl Rove is a rino blowhard who wants to talk about tea partiers losing less than 10% of all races they entered. We need to buck the establishment which happens to be liberal progressive democrats and republicans. They will say and do anything to save their jobs. We need to defeat the democrats and cannot do that with the present republican party.

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  16. flyervicComment by flyervic
    December 9, 2013 @ 4:15 pm

    The Chamber needs to wake up. The primary way to start turning sound this country is to start biting out ALL incumbents. These self-serving pukes have all forgotten that they work for us, the voters. They have all failed us miserably, especially over the past 5 years. Accept the fact that they are ALL losers and can the “my senator/rep is OK; all the rest are bad” attitude. VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS starting in 2014 and continue to do so until they get our message .

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 4:23 pm

      Those RINO’s and liberals are all bought and paid for.

      Why would the chambers of commerce across tha nation choose to get rid of perfectly good assets that are paid for and performing ‘just like new’?

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  17. greyfoxComment by greyfox
    December 9, 2013 @ 6:20 pm

    Crustyoldgeezer: Greyfox here, sorry I didn’t hear what you said last time as I have all this lint plugging my ears from being in the pocket of the “Party”. You appear to either be the author of this site as you seem to be the only one who has to respond to every other entry. My main point is we lost MO and PA because we had two “oldgueezers” who made stupid comments about rape. I have a two daughters and I really resented those comments. You talk about “We” how about some rights for your wife and daughter, but then perhaps you are single. I agree with much of what you say but also I believe we must not do a Cruz (I am from Texas and voted for him) fight when all we can do is to lose. Instead, let us be sharpshooters and pick off fights we can win. Grey fox going back to the lint filled pocket.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 9, 2013 @ 11:40 pm

      you seriously need to get your facts straight before commenting.

      FACT, YOU are a big part of the problem.

      As long as you stay in the pocket and let the elitists running the party that you will always vote for their guy, they will never change.

      They are intentionally losing races because they don’t care who is in office as long as they can be controlled and relied upon to do the bidding of whichever party needs thei help in any manner.

      As long as you continue to work to maintain the status quo, you have little value to the nation since it is your actions, or inactions, tyhat is empowering the Anti American activities of both political parties.

      Ted Cruz went to war and won the fight, because after the smoke cleared, he was proven to be 100% right.

      Maybe you should take a course in military strategy and the art of war so you can keep up?

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    • mudguyComment by mudguy
      December 10, 2013 @ 9:07 am

      crustyoldgeezer
      You are so right too bad we have too many Greyfoxs in the pockets of the GOP gathering up so much lint in their hair, eyes and ears now they have become so comfortable that they can’t see what is happening to our country. Like last night on Hannity Senator Graham was still blaming Ted Cruz for the shutdown. And Greyfoxs of the GOP still believe that.

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  18. peletierComment by peletier
    December 9, 2013 @ 7:27 pm

    If it is true that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants to help keep the Beast in power, and to continue on his ways to destroy our Nation, values and moral fiber, I am not surprised the Chamber would support all Corrupt Republicans and RINOS’s, living off Barack Obama and his Lberal Democrat Cartel…

    Did you learn about Sen. Feintein calling our Men and Women crazy people???? That is were our True Enemy lives… Not offshore!

    Our Nation needs new Leaders, with ***** of Steel, to get our Country back on track and away from Liberal Socialists who want a Welfare State!

    MAY GOD PROTECT OUR NATION!

    Everyone enjoys “sweet money and entitlements”, don’t they? by

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  19. skepticComment by skeptic
    December 10, 2013 @ 10:38 am

    I still hope to see the Tea Party somehow organize and align with the Libertarian and Constitutional parties and let the Rino party crash and burn.

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    • crustyoldgeezerComment by crustyoldgeezer
      December 10, 2013 @ 11:39 am

      THAT is a club that is growing exponentually every day.

      Both partys have proven that best interests of the Nation, OR the people are not on their radar.

      It is all about party and CONTROL over the people.

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  20. mvotano58Comment by mvotano58
    December 10, 2013 @ 11:56 am

    I don’t know but considering all the back-biting going on in here between a dozen or so people, it is no wonder the right can’t get anywhere.

    If WE, us in here, don’t stick together on these issues, like the left does, then how does any one of us expect to translate that to about 150 million people.

    Y’all do know the Democrats delight in our in-fighting don’t you? A house divided can not stand even against those misguided fools on the left. Their notions are quixotic but at least they agree on it no matter how stupid it is.

    Reagan was right…..don’t talk bad about your party and especially not within ear shot of the enemy.

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