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Pelosi: Anti-Obamacare Republicans are 'legislative arsonists'

By Washington Times (DC)

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With little more than a week before a budget stalemate over Obamacare sets off a government shutdown, Democrats and Republicans dug in deeper Sunday, with lawmakers increasingly looking, pre-emptively, to pin blame on the other side.

Democrats insist that the GOP-led effort to strip funding from Obamacare remains a nonstarter, while Republicans contend that any government shutdown will be President Obama's fault.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," called anti-Obamacare Republicans "legislative arsonists."

"This is totally irresponsible, completely juvenile and, as I called it, legislative arson. It's just destructive," the California Democrat said. "The cupboard is bare. There's no more cuts to make ... We cannot have cuts just for the sake of cuts."

But Sen Ted Cruz, the Texas Republican who has been at the forefront of the effort to defund the Affordable Care Act, said momentum and public support is with the GOP.

"I believe we should stand our ground," Mr. Cruz said during an interview on "Fox News Sunday."

The Senate this week is set to begin debate on a bill to fund the government past Sept. 30, when the current fiscal year expires. A spending plan passed in the GOP-controlled House last week, but contained a provision that defunded the president's signature health care reform law -- a step that Senate Democrats have said absolutely will not pass in their chamber.

Mr. Cruz and his allies in the Senate now plan to block Democrats from reinserting Obamacare funding into a budget bill by a simple 50-vote majority. Mr. Cruz says he's willing to filibuster the measure, should it come to that.

"If the majority is going to run over the minority with a train, the minority has the ability to stop them," he added, referring to a potential filibuster.

But Mr. Cruz and other Republicans may run the risk of appearing to put politics over the financial well-being of the nation, something Democrats already have begun to exploit.

"This is about running for president with Ted Cruz. This isn't about meaningful statesmanship," said Sen. Claire McCaskill, Missouri Democrat.

She also pointed out, as Mr. Obama has done repeatedly in recent weeks, that Obamacare was a key issue in the 2012 presidential election and the candidate who favored repeal, Republican Mitt Romney, lost.

"I don't think in America we should throw tantrums when we lose elections and threaten to shut down the government and refuse to pay the bills. The American people had a choice last November," Ms. McCaskill said.

And Mr. Cruz isn't just hearing it from Democrats: Members of his own party are skeptical of the anti-Obamacare fight.

"It's not a tactic that we can actually carry out and be successful," said Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican.

If Senate Republicans fail and Obamacare funding returns to a budget bill, Mr. Cruz said the House should consider measures to fund the government piece by piece -- starting with the military.

"Let's see if Harry Reid is willing to shut down the military just because he wants to force Obamacare on the American people," Mr. Cruz said.

Mr. Obama, in a speech Saturday night at the annual Congressional Black Caucus dinner, excoriated congressional Republicans for risking a government shutdown.

"It is time for these folks to stop governing by crisis," Mr. Obama said at the Washington Convention Center. "Some want to shut down the government rather than provide people with health care!"

Referring to Republicans' strategy to defund Obamacare, the president said he wanted to speak "as clearly as I can."

"It's not going to happen," he said.

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  1. capricorn1Comment by capricorn1
    September 23, 2013 @ 11:37 am

    I try I really try not to hate any people but nancy and dingy harry are making it real hard not to.pelosi makes me just sick to my stomach she is as evil as the day is long I pray for god to remove her and quite a few others from power.
    I did not say office I said POWER.

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    • katyhunnyComment by katyhunny
      September 23, 2013 @ 3:45 pm

      Nancy Pelosi’s head is stuffed so far up her alimentary canal that her head is going to pop out of her own mouth! How can the people of her District continue to send this stupid-as-a-fox woman back to Congress again and again and again? I live in the City of Chicago so I am all too familiar with such an electorate. We have a controlling, bigoted buffoon of a man who is the Speaker of our State House of Representatives who is repeatedly elected to office by the drones in HIS District. I don’t understand these people. Are they so fearful of change that the status quo is preferable?

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    • ssoldieComment by ssoldie
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:04 pm

      She and dingy Harry need to go to nursing homes, as I believe both have the dementia, I ought to know, my mother has it. yes she is in a nursing home.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:31 pm

      Capricorn1—I hear ya!

      Nancy Pelosi—you and Harry Reid are both washed up, useless pinheads motibated by nothing less than self-righteous political ambition, contempt not only for the Republican Party, but the American people in general, and pure contempt for this Nation and its ideals and principles. Every time either one of you opens your mouth, nothing but pure BS comes out.

      The Republican Party is against Obamacare because the American people are against Obamacare. YOU are the one who spouted off that no one could know what was in the Obamacare bill until it was passed—and, of course, now we all see why. And just what kind of procedural malarkey is that?

      But you think you can talk long and loud since you have your exemption. As I said, other than being a disgrace on Capitol Hill and serving as a very negative example—you are absolutely worthless.

      “something Democrats already have begun to exploit”—and that, in a nutshell, is exactly what they are all about—exploitation. Exploiting their power, their politics, and the American people.

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    • genesalComment by genesal
      September 23, 2013 @ 9:14 pm

      BHO is the arsonist. He’s the one who has Rome burning!

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    • calizuz1Comment by calizuz1
      September 25, 2013 @ 1:06 pm

      @gensal, literally, ‘BO’ does have Rome burning but it is his henchman Airbag Pelooser and Comrad Reidoff, blatantly, doing his dirty work for him. Isn’t it funny how when Bush was in office, the shoe was on the other foot. Pelooser and Reidoff like clowns in a court were unabashedly ridiculed and made fun of. They were just one big joke.

      I remember growing up in Nevada when Harry Reid was starting his career. He had a nephew who rode in junior rodeos there. The kid placed a bumper sticker that read ‘Vote for Harry Reid” on his horses rear end. In my opinion things haven’t changed much since then, Reid was a horses a** then and he is still one today. As far as Pelooser goes…….what can I say, she hails from the land of fruits and nuts (SF). What an airhead…… when she opens her mouth she becomes an over inflated ‘puff fish’ that needs to be deflated.

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  2. my04301933Comment by my04301933
    September 23, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

    Pelosi? We all know she and Hairless Harry are “evil couples”

    There is nothing PATRIOTIC about either of them tho they “play-act” as tho they are such loving citizens and servants.

    What more can I say, other than they are “POWER HUNGRY” and say to hell with the USA…”ITS ALL ME!”

    I shall watch Wisconsin’s Senator Johnson…he believes the government should not be shut down just because no one wants to vote for OBAMACARE…

    But if he cannot comprehend that once it is on its way…it is going to be so well embedded it will never die…

    So we are watching our state of Wisconsin’s Senator Johnson…I don’t relish the shutdown, nor do I believe it will do lasting, if any, damage except hold off paying the Senate and Congressional, salaries (that would get their attention)…but I DO FEAR THE WORSE…OBAMACARE…

    A shutdown will not do the harm, and if Wisconsin Senators are fearful of Obama, then maybe we have the wrong Senators!…

    AND WE SHALL CAMPAIGN TO REMOVE AND REPLACE HIM!

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    • roint1228Comment by roint1228
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:25 pm

      Just one question

      What do we call her and sidekick democrats when we the people were told to pass the ACA so we could find out what we voted upon. Halloween is coming ant nan, locate your broom and fly to your nearest Psych

      Roint

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    • my04301933Comment by my04301933
      September 23, 2013 @ 8:47 pm

      roint1228…i.e. your one question…

      I haven’t a name for them yet, at least not that tender ears would appreciate…

      …but I wonder just how these misfits got by us and into an office that can do us all harm…

      …my guess is that we became docile and listless, allowing somone else (like the devil) do our think for us…

      Harry, Pelosi,Obama, Hillary, Kerry…and the like…are absolute self-serving misfits, and at a time we were “comfortable”,and not taking the time to investigate these criminals…they got past us and now we are stuck with them…

      When we became mentally lazy…the Media moved in to fry our minds…to feed the cool ade…and we drank every bottle in the case…

      NEVER AGAIN…

      IMPEACH

      ( I liked your comment)

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  3. guidoComment by guido
    September 23, 2013 @ 1:12 pm

    So Pelosi called those who oppose Obamacare “legislative arsonists.” Well, Nanc explain why you exempted yourself and staff from Obamacare if it is soooo good. Perhaps you did read it after it was passed and realized it was a piece of ****. One more thing Nanc, I call those who support Obamacare as anti-American. I don’t want the government to be involved in any aspect of my life especially in my health care. It is the none of the government’s business.

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    • pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
      September 23, 2013 @ 1:20 pm

      So true, guido. I refuse to listen the anyone extolling Obamacare who will not be forced, as the rest of us are, to use it. The exemptions are flying fast and furious as the unions and other groups wake up and decide, “Well, this is good for the rest of you, but not so good for us.” The hypocrisy is palpable.

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    • texas29Comment by texas29
      September 23, 2013 @ 2:29 pm

      Ms. Pelosi, if this is legislative arson, what you and your Democrat cohorts did when you crammed Obamacare down the country’s throat was legislative terrorism! Your comment that the bill had to be passed before we could know what was in it was, on the surface, merely moronic, but now I believe that you and your partners in crime knew just what you were doing. Democrats don’t care about the American people. Just as it was with FDR and Social Security, you simply wanted to get America so dependent on this pile of trash that it would be virtually impossible to get rid of it in the future. The more people dependent on it results in more votes for you and your despicable fellow Democrats. If Obamacare was so all-fired desireable, why in the world did Congress vote themselves exemptions to it?? Disgusting!

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    • genesalComment by genesal
      September 23, 2013 @ 5:38 pm

      Legislative arsonists? Well that makes Piglosi and company ‘Benghazi murderers’ now doesn’t it?

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    • jmortensenComment by jmortensen
      September 23, 2013 @ 5:40 pm

      If it takes an arsonist to “burn” that obamacare out of existence, well send in the arsonists, because “We the People” Don’t want it , don’t need it , and can’t afford it .. you guys passed it so let it be yours to deal with ..

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  4. p3driverComment by p3driver
    September 23, 2013 @ 1:40 pm

    It’s time (more correctly, past time) to put Nana in a home.

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    • kid721952Comment by kid721952
      September 23, 2013 @ 4:34 pm

      Pelosi is a perfect example of age,senile,blind,non-comprehensive,follow-the leader politician that’s gotten to comfortable in office,naturally she will stay in office in California because they are on government life support,feinstein is in the same boat,jerry brown is signing a bill that makes hunting illegal in California,lead bullets will be illegal which cuts out 98% of the ammunition,califorians will be completely helpless with democrats in office,sheep to be slaughtered by the government,fault is in the people who let it happen

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  5. briankComment by briank
    September 23, 2013 @ 1:55 pm

    The only thing I can say about Pelosi is, That man is un-American.

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  6. poppoComment by poppo
    September 23, 2013 @ 2:16 pm

    How does this woman keep her job? Even the idiot left in California must be ashamed of her. She belongs in a home where they can watch her 24/7.

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    • way2coolComment by way2cool
      September 23, 2013 @ 3:33 pm

      Nancy Pelosi is a leach. She’s attached firmly to obama’s posterior. She’ll leave when he leaves, which may be sooner than we think.

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    • calizuz1Comment by calizuz1
      September 25, 2013 @ 7:41 pm

      Contraire ‘popo.’ In their arrogance, the so called hippies in California are darting around in a Prius’, having environmental contractions, celebrating diversity, gushing over gay pride, all the while beckoning the illegals from the south to come join their happy family. In essence they are handing the 1/4 Mexicans (the most in the US) the farm. They walk around in a preconceived notion called bliss while swimming with sharks the likes of Pelooser and Feinstab whom they can’t bare to get rid of. They want to eliminate firearms and increase crime. These shallow narrow minds know not what they do. They keep taxing away (just increased minimum wage LOL) killing small business and soon the tax base will leave. What do you think will we have left…..nada Can’t wait to leave……

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  7. djdryoelComment by djdryoel
    September 23, 2013 @ 2:29 pm

    I,for one, would like to know who footed the bill for Pelosi to attend George Soros’ nuptuals?!?! #pelosisucks

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  8. prairelivingComment by praireliving
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:01 pm

    The cupboard is bare…we cannot have cuts just for the sake of cuts.

    Really, because that is what is going on in the households of a whole lot of Americans now that Obamacare is being shoved down their throats. When the ‘free’ preventive care went into effect our already sky high premiums ($980/month for a high deductible policy) went up another $150/month (that’s $1800 per year). Nothing free about it. We are not unique in being a middle class family that will have to choose between food and health insurance.

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    • teapartyproudComment by teapartyproud
      September 24, 2013 @ 5:00 am

      Unfortunately, you’re going to be hungry, because Obamacare does not allow you to make a choice. You will be forced to buy it.

      Now, say thank you to Aunt Nancy and Uncle Harry for taking such good care of you. Aren’t they wonderful?

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  9. makesenseComment by makesense
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:15 pm

    Instead of defunding Obamacare, I believe the GOP will be more effective if they add to the Continuing Resolution a provision that all US Citizens shall be covered under Obamacare. ALL – from the President, the Congress, their staff — all the way down — ALL Americans, EVERYBODY! The GOP House will of course, have to agree to drop their current Cadillac Health Care Plan. That will be a tall order. But, can you see Harry Reid and Obama opposing this publicly?

    Moreover, should a miracle happen and this gets into law, I am sure after a year and they have felt the inadequacies of Obamacare, Congress will modify Obamacare to make it a better system but they will not be able to publicly change it to give themselves (and not the public) better health coverage. The whole country’s citizenry will be the beneficiary.

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    • conservativepatriotComment by conservativepatriot
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:51 pm

      I think that is brilliant. Any idiot can see that the dems are hypocrites, but since most who vote democratic cannot meet the standards to be considered idiots, they frequently miss the irony of their double standard. If the dems to try to defeat his proposal their hypocrisy should even be visible to a sub moron = the average dem voter. If they don’t defeat it, then for once they will have to eat their own legislation, and they will definitely try to fix it! Otherwise they have absolutely no incentive to do so.

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    • teapartyproudComment by teapartyproud
      September 24, 2013 @ 5:06 am

      The plan was never meant to be workable. When it fails, our hero Barack rides in and saves us all with with a single-payer totally government run health care system, for which we shall be forever grateful.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      September 24, 2013 @ 5:53 am

      OR ELSE !

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  10. 53shbearnettComment by 53shbearnett
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:16 pm

    The sentences that fall out of this woman’s mouth mark her as not only completely out of touch with reality, but also brain-botoxed! Why, Mizz Pelosi, are the cupboards bare? Because of your and your creepy cohort’s (Harry Reid-less) reckless and profligate spending. This proclamation, on top of her outrageous statement to Candy Crowley (no sweetness there), that people who have the “opportunity” to work less than 40 hours per week will enjoy a healthier lifestyle and be able to “pursue their passions” mark her as downright dangerous. She needs to go!

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  11. American firstComment by American first
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:22 pm

    Pelosi is legislative terrorist! You have to approve a bill to see what’s in it. She should have been tried for treason just for making that statement.

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  12. KBBComment by KBB
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:23 pm

    Now that it’s passed and we’re finding out what’s in it, there’s quite a few anti-Obamacare Democrats and anti-Obamacare union members. What does Pelosi call them?

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  13. shearwaterComment by shearwater
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:57 pm

    Pelosi comes from a long line of democrat political hacks from, I believe, Baltimore, Maryland, who have managed to make hay through politics in California. .>>>Her net worth increased 17 million dollars during Obama’s first term in office . . . She is definitely a bellicose person who loves the democrat style of machine politics similar to the infamous, Richard J. Daley, who pronounced once, “Vote early and vote often.” Pelosi says she goes to mass every day. I don’t believe purgatory has any room for a liar like her. I wouldn’t foreclose her opportunity to repent and become a “real” Christian but my disdain is near the boiling point. Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy! God have mercy!

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    • poppoComment by poppo
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:20 pm

      If Pelosi is counting on ‘going to mass everyday’ for salvation, she has a real surprise coming. She will meet the ‘Real Arsonist’!

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  14. arwenusaComment by arwenusa
    September 23, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

    Whereas Obamacare/Death Panel-supporting Democrats are NOT murderers.

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    • poppoComment by poppo
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:40 pm

      Not to mention their support of abortions, including late term or just after birth.

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  16. gentlemanjimComment by gentlemanjim
    September 23, 2013 @ 6:18 pm

    They haven’t cut anything. They’ve just cut back on the amount of increases. She’s nothing but an idiot.

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  18. nancyjComment by nancyj
    September 23, 2013 @ 6:54 pm

    “Anti-Obamacare Republicans are ‘legislative arsonists’”
    What she should have said was that anyone who voted FOR Obamacare was a legislative idiot and not fit to serve.

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    • poppoComment by poppo
      September 23, 2013 @ 7:43 pm

      Obamacare: The ultimate self-serving ego trip of all time.

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  19. Eagle525Comment by eagle525
    September 23, 2013 @ 7:36 pm

    Look who is name calling again. Well Ms Pelosi and with interest to equal time here a dose of medicine for you . MS Pelosi you are the poster princess for evil along with your democrat constituency in congress.
    We remember your tyrannical quote “We will find out what is in the (OBAMACARE) bill when we pass it ” We are still finding out what is in it, and we still don’t like it. You , Reid, and Obama screwed all Americans with a defunct socialistic health care plan and you both can spend eternity in Hades.

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  20. fredkComment by fredk
    September 23, 2013 @ 7:53 pm

    She would not know an arsonist if she met one. Maybe one can sneak up on her a set her on fire. I am sure someone will donate the gasoline and a lighter. There may even be a line to flick the Bic.

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    • 53shbearnettComment by 53shbearnett
      September 23, 2013 @ 9:36 pm

      I’m not sure she’d even need gas and lighter fluid to ignite — remember the witch in Wizard of Oz? ;)

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    • sirodComment by sirod
      September 24, 2013 @ 12:55 pm

      I have a feeling that she will be on fire throughout eternity if she does not change. I do not believe she could support the things she does – especially Obama – if she was Christian.

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  21. sumitchComment by sumitch
    September 23, 2013 @ 9:45 pm

    I almost fell out of my chair with the quote “”It is time for these folks to stop governing by crisis”. Is there no end to this woman’s oblivious stupidity? Who was the best friend of Obama that said “never let a crisis go to waste”? I believe he may now be the mayor of the gun free city of Chicago where a few people died just a few days ago by a drive by? It’s not being put on the front pages because it would prove that when the people are unarmed only the criminals will have weapons.

    Everything Obama does is to create (let happen) a situation and proclaim it a crisis and therefore the sky is falling. Then dump 2,500 pages of legislation on the table with a couple of days to read them. I’ll forever believe that all of congress should have voted no to Obamacare under the banner of “I’m not stupid enough to sign something I can’t read and digest”. How much worse would things be if they had done that?

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  22. JDZComment by JDZ
    September 23, 2013 @ 10:21 pm

    Every major problem this country is experiencing can be traced back to legislation or action initiated by the federal government. The legislation created by Congress coupled with regulations and policies created within the Executive Branch account for the majority of the issues and problems from the economy, the over regulated private companies, the uncontrolled borrowing and spending, the exorbitant national debt that has been created by the federal government, the failure to secure our borders which has allowed tens of millions of illegals into the country, the massive growth of entitlement programs to levels never imagined and totally unaffordable and unsustainable, and the expansion of government in both size and levels of intrusion into our lives.

    The ACA (affectionately known as Obamacare) is the largest and most obtrusive legislation to come out of Congress in the history of our country, and, because it involves our healthcare system, it has the potential to be the most destructive to our country. It is so complex that no one fully appreciated the implications of this bill before it was forced through Congress using extortion, bribery, and a couple of Congressional procedures that were not designed for major legislation like the ACA. This country has never passed large and complex legislation on a strict partisan level as this one was jammed through by the Democrats led by Pelosi and Reid, and both of them are proud of what they did. Not one Republican voted in favor of this bill in either the House or the Senate. The only bipartisan voting was in the House where 25 Democrats voted against the Bill. What is sad is that Pelosi admitted that the Bill needed to be passed so that we could then figure out what is in it.

    Now that we are seeing how almost none of the metrics (costs, insurance rates, people impacted, etc.) used to help pass the bill are as predicted and were misrepresented and way off, and that we are seeing more and more negative impact on hospitals, care staffs, the job market, and company healthcare insurance programs, most Americans do not want this legislation in its present form, or if at all, the idea of defunding the legislation so as to delay its implementation and providing time to wring it out to see if it is worthwhile and something the Amercan people really want is a really good idea.

    The Dems like Pelosi and Reid are responsible for forcing this legislation through Congress and their names are on it as is Obama’s, and to them this is their legacy and they will protect it regardless of the impact to the American people. And of course, both of them and Obama, etc. are exempted from the legislation, which is like telling someone they only deserve a Chevy while you drive off in your Ferrari that was paid for by those driving the Chevy. It is pure hypocritical.

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    • poppoComment by poppo
      September 23, 2013 @ 10:33 pm

      The government is totally out of hand. The only possibility of regaining any control by the people would be the institution of Term Limits. Chances of implementing that is close to zero. The Republicans are only marginally better than the Democrats. We basically have a 2 headed ugly beast ruling the sheep.

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  23. phunyfarmComment by phunyfarm
    September 23, 2013 @ 10:52 pm

    There is still this week to hammer your senators via e-mail & phone. Call often, be concise and polite then repeat,often. You’ll feel like you’ve done something anyway, it might actually work. Defund the damn government for awhile, they don’t do anything for me, except make me get busy being an active Patriot instead of just whining and waiting to get busted right into Socialism via ObitemeCouldn’tCareLess. I’ve got grand daughters @ stake here. That pig of a bill is in direct violation of the Constitution in @ least 4 amendments. The Fundamental Transformation of America he told us he dreamed of. First, we’ll become Socialist…then…it doesn’t get better, it gets worse.
    GET BUSY!

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  24. billybob55Comment by billybob55
    September 24, 2013 @ 2:18 am

    Wait…
    Obama rallied his minions at the Saturday night annual Congressional Black Caucus dinner.

    Is there a Congressional White Caucus dinner?

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  25. sirodComment by sirod
    September 24, 2013 @ 12:48 pm

    Nancy, Harry, and Barack make we want to puke when I hear their voice – yes, I said voice. They sing the same song at the same time as they dance around gleefully tearing America down. The rest of the world laughs at those three. What terrible representatives they are for our beloved country. Nancy is so in love with Barack that her eyes go into a hypnotic trance when she is in his presence. She acts like a silly school girl with her first crush. I bet Michelle and Barack have good private laughs about how bubble headed she acts about him. She is a disgrace to all females. That is all of the good things I can think of to say about those three. Now for the bad…..

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