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Rep. Paul Ryan: Federal government shutdown a bad idea

By United Press International

Republicans shouldn't shut down Washington if President Obama's healthcare law is included in the new budget, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan says.

That political tactic, advocated by some Tea Party-endorsed Republicans, is "sort of swinging for the fences" and wont even hurt the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Wisconsin Republican told CBS' "Face the Nation."

"There are more effective ways of achieving that goal," such as delaying parts of it, he said.

"Look, we all, Republicans, want to repeal and replace Obamacare," said Ryan, the Republican vice presidential nominee last year and a potential 2016 presidential hopeful.

"So it's not a matter of whether or not we want to get rid of Obamacare, we do," he said.

"We're having a debate about the best course of achieving that goal, the best strategy. And with the government shutdown, so to speak, we're talking about discretionary spending, just government agency budgets, but it doesn't affect entitlements.

"Obamacare is an entitlement, like Medicare and Social Security is, and so the entitlement carries on, even under a government-shutdown scenario," Ryan said.

"I think there's going to be a better strategy to actually achieve our goal of ... ultimately replacing Obamacare," he said.

GOP congressional leadership is divided over calls from Tea Party-backed Republicans, including Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Marco Rubio of Florida and Rand Paul of Kentucky, to oppose Obama's 2013 fiscal budget because it will include Affordable Care Act funding.

Opposing it could hold up budget approval, causing Congress to miss the deadline before the new fiscal year begins Oct. 1. Missing the deadline would shut down all but "essential" government services.

The exact details of which government functions would stop during a shutdown would be determined by the Office of Management and Budget. Among the services shut down in the past were U.S. national parks and passport offices.

A shutdown would also cause a large number of civilian federal employees to be furloughed. Military personnel would not furloughed, but would likely not be paid as scheduled.

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  1. capricorn1Comment by capricorn1
    August 5, 2013 @ 11:58 am

    “BAD IDEA” MR.RYAN?
    i will tell you a bad idea mr.ryan,you bunch of pansies getting re-eleted to keep screwing the american people.

    another bad idea mr.ryan is not shutting down most of the BIG,
    BLOATED,UN-EFFICIENT,BIG BROTHER,BIG SPENDOR,WASTEFUL BUNCH OF LUSHES THAT IVE EVER SEEN.

    THE DAY OF RECKONING IN 2014.VOTE THEM ALL OUT.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      August 5, 2013 @ 1:02 pm

      “There are more effective ways of achieving that goal,” such as delaying parts of it, he said.”

      Delaying a known disaster is no effective way to deal with it. Why can’t the politicians understand that this law is still extremely unpopular and the people don’t want it? We know the democrats are not going to repeal it, so if the republicans don’t stop it, they are just as bad.

      I thought “sequestration” was supposed to shut the government down. The lies, deception, and propaganda need to stop or Congress needs to be replaced.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      August 5, 2013 @ 8:24 pm

      Here’s my plan: shut it down—clean it out—revamp it—reopen under new management and staff.

      The present corps of career politicians are not concerned about what is good for the country and the American people. We are tired of lies, scandals, blaming everything and everybody else, subverting the Constitution. Barack Obama is the King of Corruption and he is spreading it all over everywhere.

      Not only do we not want Obamacare—we do not want Obama, the Liberals, the RINO’s, the IRS—we want to be rid of it all. Yep—its time for a change—but in the opposite direction from where Obama is misleading us—and where the Republicans evidently do not have the courage to go.

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    • KBBComment by KBB
      August 6, 2013 @ 1:19 am

      ……”Obamacare is an entitlement, like Medicare and Social Security is, and so the entitlement carries on, even under a government-shutdown scenario,” Ryan said……..

      I agree Obamacare IS an entitlement, but I don’t consider it to be the same kind as Medicare and Social Security. In those 2 plans, workers pay into them and draw their “saved” money out upon retirement or when needed, as in the case of SS. With Obamacare, taxpayers pay into it and may never draw their contributed monies from it. Instead, others reap the benefit.

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  2. 1389ADComment by 1389AD
    August 5, 2013 @ 1:35 pm

    The only way to save what is left of the US economy – and what little is left of our liberties – is to shut down the government until Obamacare is defunded.

    That’s what we elected you and the other Republicans to the House to do. You have the power of the purse. It’s your duty to use it for the benefit of the citizenry, who overwhelmingly oppose Obamacare.

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    • rzraickComment by rzraick
      August 5, 2013 @ 9:40 pm

      Shut down the central government completely and permanently. The establish a new government, limited by the Constitution and based on the single core directive of protecting the individuals freedoms of every citizen equally.

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  3. AMVoterComment by AMVoter
    August 5, 2013 @ 2:05 pm

    RINO Ryan has become such a disappointment.

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  4. juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
    August 5, 2013 @ 2:23 pm

    What we really need to get rid of is traitor Republicans like Paul Ryan. Why don’t these idiots go over to the Democrat party and be done with it. They are not Conservatives and have never been Conservative. They served their purpose infiltrating the Republican Party now go home!

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  5. RadmanComment by Radman
    August 5, 2013 @ 2:26 pm

    Assuming that a government shutdown actually is a bad idea, it would be a very GOOD idea not to let the Dems blame Republicans if it happens. So DON’T let them! The House should produce a continuing resolution that funds everything EXCEPT Obamacare, its implementation costs and any unfunded mandates. Pass it…and send it on to the Senate. If they refuse to bring it up for debate or vote it down, it will be Harry Reid and the Democrats who must take the blame for the shutdown of our government. Republicans can then say honestly, “Hey, it’s YOUR fault; we tried to keep it running.”

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  6. sashamandaComment by sashamanda
    August 5, 2013 @ 2:53 pm

    Ryan claims there is a way to kill Obamacare, but he’s not telling. He says we cannot interfere with Obamacare through cr because it is an entitlement, and in the same interview talks about cutting entitlements like social security and medicare. Meanwhile, he is pushing for massive immigration that will greatly increase entitlements.

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  7. richardlucchesiComment by richardlucchesi
    August 5, 2013 @ 3:08 pm

    Mr. Ryan,

    Don’t be afraid to put the Federal Government on a diet. It is extremely bloated with fraud, waste, abuse, mismanagement, and illegal acts. Perhaps, if we shut it down, the politicians would quickly find a way to reduce the size of government and return to the limited role of the federal government. Our constitution spells out the few functions of the federal government, the rest of the functions are better handled locally.

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  8. moonshineComment by moonshine
    August 5, 2013 @ 3:16 pm

    Paul Ryan is another establishment clone. His suck-up strategy failed once, now he wants to do it again.
    What is fundamentally wrong with funding everything in the budget but ObamaCare; and letting the Democrats make the final decision on whether or not to shut down the government. Let’s put the monkey on their liberal backs for a change.
    Why do the dumb Republicans insist on self destruction, by not being more creative and clever? Certainly the Democrats do it, and constantly put the Republicians in the box.

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    • RadmanComment by Radman
      August 5, 2013 @ 3:32 pm

      Moonshine: That’s precisely what I just suggested about an hour ago (above). Great minds must think alike!

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  9. americaneagle1392Comment by americaneagle1392
    August 5, 2013 @ 4:20 pm

    Get a grip, Paul Ryan. It is a worse idea to implement an entitlement program like Obamacare that will be impossible to kill and will destroy our economy even in the opinion of those who wrote the bill, than to shut down the government for a few days.

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  10. spriteComment by sprite
    August 6, 2013 @ 2:03 am

    Gripers like those here who are always so opinionated should ask themselves if they know better than a pro. like the Budget Chairman when it comes to decisions like government shutdowns etc. He has more perspective than you, and is aware of the details . YOU aren’t .

    And the Republican party needs a change badly, but when someone like Ryan comes along and has the courage to step outside the realm of Republican political correctness, and take a risk he gets called a RINO .

    He is dead-set against Obamacare, and wouldn’t do anything to make it more difficult to fight . No way is he going to “implement an entitlment program ” or have you forgotten his budget has been criticized for being too hard on those programs ?

    I don’t think he is a traitor to the conservative party at all-he just has more than the tunnel-vision that too many Republicans can’t see beyond .

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    • sacheveraljames42Comment by sacheveraljames42
      August 6, 2013 @ 7:21 am

      What I will say, Sprite is your argument has no fizz. First, Mr. Ryan’s position on not wanting to shut down the government is based on some fallacy promoted by paid political advisors who don’t have the slightist idea what they are talking about. The government never shuts down and always maintains it’s responsibility of providing essential services. Second, Mr. Ryan has by his own actions on immigration and his defense of Obamacare and most recently his public policy statements on numerous television show has shown why he has become a RINO. Those of us who post on this site on a regular basis know a RINO when we see and hear one. Third, most of us are sick and tired of Republicans who say one thing to get elected and then go their own merry way after and then try to spoon feed us an argument that WE don’t understand the complex issues that people like Mr. Ryan deal with every day. You don’t have to be a committee chairman to know when you’re being screwed and I resent the fact that you are telling us we are gripping about any issue. It’s obvious you don’t have a sense of our discontent with those politicians like Mr. Ryan, so be content with the fact that we have more of a sense of reality than you do at this point in time and try to learn why that is. Have a nice day.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      August 6, 2013 @ 10:38 am

      sprite, what we don’t need is some “opinionated” individual like you telling us what we need to think.

      The pros you talk about haven’t done their job, are not doing their job, and I base my opinions on the U.S. Constitution. The pros seem to be unaware of that document or intentionally ignore it, so YES, perhaps I do “know better than the pros”.

      If you think the government is doing OK and this nation is headed in the right direction, it’s your opinions that should be reviewed.

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      August 6, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

      sprite, go back to HuffyPo where you came from. There your leftist tunnel vision will be shared with the other nonthinking individuals who are being lead around by the nose.

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  11. bendoublecrossedComment by bendoublecrossed
    August 6, 2013 @ 10:14 am

    THE ENUMERATED POWERS AND DUTIES

    The very first sentence of the First Article of the Constitution states, “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States.”

    Neither the president nor the Supreme Court justices can make laws — except by usurpations tolerated by Congress.

    The President does not have the authority to write or change law. Congress must impeach or take the matter to the Supreme Court . Otherwise Congress validates the executive branch encroachment on legislative authority.

    Allowing the Executive branch to change a time table set in the law gives its promoters time to shore it up. Congress must hold the Obama administration to the original time table and allow this travesty to fall of its own weight sooner rather than later!

    Obamacare needs to be stopped for so many reasons. Both parties acknowledge that Social Security and Medicare are going broke. How can leaders propose a new entitlement? But the most important reason is the American people have said no since the first discussions. We elected representatives and we can fire insubordinate employees. And if the IRS is exempted from PPACA the American people will not tolerate their agents enforcing the mandate on us!

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  12. linda libertyComment by linda liberty
    August 6, 2013 @ 10:40 am

    I go with the argument that if we don’t do it now, when is a good time? Once a government entitlement program is instituted it never goes away. This is the best time to try to defeat it. I also think that this is only the “starter home” towards universal health care. This system will work so poorly and the insurance companies will be destroyed and then the left will look at the mess (they made) and say that the only option left to do is universal health care (after they have destroyed what we had). Some dictator (Lenin, maybe?) said you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. This is the left’s version of cracking a few eggs. So what if for the next 20 – 30 years people will be left with a horrible system where many die. It is always the ends that justify the means with the left. Also Saul Alinski’s philosophy. And Barack Obama was a student and teacher of Alinski.

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  13. The GuardianComment by The Guardian
    August 6, 2013 @ 2:01 pm

    The Obama Care is nothing more than a way for the federal government to tax your health and health care. No politician, Republican or Democrat will vote to get rid os this tax producing bill.

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