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Holder: Stand your ground laws 'senselessly expand the concept of self-defense'

By Orlando Sentinel (FL)

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ORLANDO, Fla. - U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the nation's first black to hold that post, urged NAACP members convening in Orlando on Tuesday to help overturn stand-your-ground laws that "senselessly expand the concept of self-defense."

The law was expected to be at the center of the second-degree-murder trial of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, but it was not raised at trial. The issue did surface when Zimmerman was arrested.

Rather than prevent violence, Holder said, such laws can encourage it.

"We must stand our ground," Holder said to thunderous applause, "to ensure our laws reduce violence."

Holder also said his office is examining all available evidence before deciding whether to pursue charges against neighborhood watchman Zimmerman in the shooting death of the black teen _ though he gave no indication of the timetable involved.

He told NAACP members attending the group's 104th annual convention to peacefully confront "the unfortunate stereotypes" that sometimes lead to police suspicion and private misjudgment. Holder praised the relatively peaceful reaction to Saturday's acquittal of Zimmerman and the "dignity" of Martin's parents.

But he also recounted the personal incidents of racial profiling he had faced as a young man, including being stopped on the New Jersey turnpike for no reason and being questioned by an officer one night while running to catch a movie in Washington's trendy Georgetown district.

"I was at the time of that last incident a federal prosecutor," Holder noted.

In a rare public disclosure, Holder also shared how, when he was a teen, his father had instructed him on how to conduct himself if he were ever stopped by the police _ and how Holder found himself having the same talk with his own 15-year-old son after Martin's death.

"I am sure that my father felt certain that his generation was the last that would have to worry about such things for their children," Holder said.

After Holder's speech, NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said he was "extremely pleased" that the Justice Department is "fully invested in the George Zimmerman case" and to hear Holder's "strong, principled opposition to stand-your-ground laws."

Jealous said federal investigators need to examine evidence barred by the judge in the second-degree-murder case allegedly showing racism was a factor in the killing.

"The reality is that much of the evidence that is most germane to say (the case was) a hate-crime violation hasn't been introduced," Jealous said. They've got to focus on witness No. 9: George Zimmerman's relative who called and said that he (Zimmerman) had committed racial acts and that she believed that racism was a factor. They need to go back and talk to those boys in his gated community who said they believe he targeted and harassed them because of their race."

Holder also addressed the U.S. Supreme Court's recent decision striking down key portions of the Voting Rights Act by assuring listeners that the Department of Justice was shifting resources to protect against discrimination at the polls.

Barriers based on race persist, despite other progress, Holder said: "These problems are real. They are significant. They erode our democracy."

Earlier, U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan drew applause for his vow to continue investigations into housing discrimination that already have resulted in more than $65 million in compensation for 25,000 individuals.

"While blatant, in-your-face discrimination is still very real today, a quieter form of discrimination has emerged that is just as harmful to our country," Donovan said.

He cited a report released by HUD last month revealing that, after an initial showing, real-estate agents and rental-housing providers recommend and show fewer available homes to minority families than to equally qualified whites.

At 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are scheduled to speak at the convention's final session. They will be joined by Martin Luther King III and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla. according to Derek Turner, NAACP director of communications.

The Trayvon Martin shooting case and verdict, as well as voting rights, will be among topics discussed.

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(Staff writer Jerriann Sullivan contributed to this report.)

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  1. teapartyproudComment by teapartyproud
    July 17, 2013 @ 6:16 am

    The racism of today is practiced vehemently by our black brothers and sisters. Political correctness says this is perfectly justified.

    Every problem a black person has, or any crime committed can be traced back and laid at the feet of white people. How convenient and easy it must be to be blameless for any bad behavior you engage in. Seems to me to be the very definition of irresponsible.

    I know, I must be racist for pointing out the obvious.

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    • adrianpaulComment by adrianpaul
      July 17, 2013 @ 9:36 am

      …EH is supposed to be AG for ALL Americans, not just as he puts it “Our People”!

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      July 17, 2013 @ 4:13 pm

      Because of the fact that Eric Holder is not the AG for ALL Americans makes it imperative that we have stand your ground laws. He is nothing more than a racist with authority and he has shown his prejudice toward whites since he took office. He should have been removed from office when he refused to prosecute the Black Panthers for voter intimidation in Philly in 2008, and until he does, he has no reason to prosecute ANYONE else. The law applies to everyone or it doesn’t apply to anyone. The DOJ’s own statistics show that even though blacks represent about 14% of the population they commit 65% of all crimes, but Holder refuses to prosecute “his people”. Therefore Holder should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty. When it was discovered that he sent a team of protestors to Sanford, Florida to organize the riots over the verdict, Obama should have been told to terminate him or Obama would be impeached.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      July 17, 2013 @ 6:58 pm

      So, Mr Holder—are you actively pursuing the cases of all the other killings that occur everyday—the identities of whom we never hear because they aren’t serving a political agenda? They’re not quite so important to you are they?

      Mr Zimmerman was tried via our established legal system and found to be innocent by the jury—but since yourself and your Black militant friends didn’t get the decision you all wanted, then you will dismiss the valid legal decision that was made and try to find some trumped-up charge upon which you can hopefully acquire a verdict more to your liking.

      And you have been such a stellar performer in your position haven’t you? Overseeing self-investigations regarding the rampant corruption and scandals of the present administration—several of which you have personally either been involved in or had oversight. Would you have approved of Mr Zimmerman investigating himself?

      You have no understanding of right and wrong yourself—you are in no position to be determining it for anyone else. Quite honestly—you need to be fired.

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  2. goosemanComment by gooseman
    July 17, 2013 @ 6:53 am

    This, of course, completely absolves the aggressor. Attack anyone you want and when they defend themselves we’ll hang em. Apparently the Democrats haven’t fully gotten the white folks in America all the way into their role as professional victims, in the new society. They’ve gotten them pretty much used to the role as slaves to the system, where over a third of your hard earned money to taken to redistribute to the protected lazy class. That’s not enough. If you have something and someone wants it, hand it over without protest, even if that “something” is your life. Don’t you dare defend yourself.

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  3. lynninvaComment by lynninva
    July 17, 2013 @ 8:47 am

    This is just another excuse for Obama and his minions to take away more of our rights. Zimmerman was found not guilty, yet they will play this race game all the way. No mention is ever made of the continuous black on black killings in Chicago and other big cities. No mention is ever made of the 20-25% unemployment rate among black youths. No mention is ever made of what it’s going to cost us for Holder to further this investigation on Zimmerman, even though the FBI has already done so.

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:12 am

      The blacks are employed, but not on any official employment rolls. They’re selling drugs, pimping prostitutes, burglarizing homes and businesses, and mugging people. Liberals are quick to point out that you can’t live off of welfare, and if that’s true, then the money is coming from somewhere else. We all know where else that is.

      Zimmerman might next be charged with “work place violence” for interferring in Trayvon’s nightly prowls of the neighborhood. Heck, Holder is just protecting his peeps on the job. No victims are authorized to defend themselves, so all you crazy crackas better just lay down and let them take whatever they want from you. Resistance is illegal! You will be mugged and/or murdered!

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:14 am

      AM I the only one who has tgthe guts to say this? “Hey HOLDER! There wasn’t a white person ANYWHERE NEAR this tragedy.This was color on color, So STOP this racism against whites!” Amen

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:25 am

      You may have a point wumingren? I’m sure he is looking into that? Also, he’s probably circling around the child abuse theory too?

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 4:51 pm

      American citizens of White South Africans heritage can’t be African American. Whaaaaat?

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    • darralComment by darral
      July 17, 2013 @ 5:54 pm

      Bottom Line Eric holder and the Democratic party are about as lawless as they come, WE need or guns now more than ever as long as we have these people in power and control. Keep your powder dry

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  4. syebComment by syeb
    July 17, 2013 @ 8:48 am

    Holder: “Don’t worry, the Government will protect you. Just call 911 and hope you’re still alive when the cops finally get there.”

    Anyone have any ideas why Stand Your Ground / Self-Defense is a racial issue that Holder should oppose?

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:15 am

      It probably falls under the disparate impact laws. Who ya gonna defend yourself against?

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:22 am

      According to BOTH laws they are almost exact replicas of each other who is he trying to buffalo? Oh I forgot the racist anti 2nd amendment weenies

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    • kennethComment by kenneth
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:44 am

      I think I have an explanation, syeb. For every black killed by a white person defending themselves, there is one less vote for some socialist demonrat somewhere. It’s strictly a numbers game. Word!

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  5. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    July 17, 2013 @ 8:59 am

    Talks big about gun laws and how it is essential that the country abide by them except in the case of fast and furious. Dude has blood on his hands.

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    • curmudgeon2Comment by curmudgeon2
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:48 pm

      Look at the Radicals behind all the bogus charges on Zimerman.
      This bashing the outcome of the Zimmerman Trial is the Democratic Party’s trend showing their “War on Hispanics”.

      Fast and Furious was proof of another example of this ruling regime’s “War on Hispanics”.

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  6. elderalComment by elderal
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:23 am

    This is the scenario Holder would like to occur:
    It is the middle of the night and I am awakened to the sound of breaking glass. I am unarmed because the Second Amendment means nothing and the feds have confiscated my guns. My only recourse is call 911 and hide in the closet. The bad guy kills me, rapes my wife, and steals our valuables. The cops arrive only to confirm that I am, indeed, dead and to call in the ambulance to haul off the body. If the killer was a minority, it will be deemed that there was no federal crime but if he was white, the state &/or county will prosecute and the feds will ignore the issue.
    This scenario is, in fact, the way things are in Chicago where the good people are defenseless and the bad people are assured that no one will shoot back. For this reason, Chicago has a very high murder rate. Obama, Holder, and friends want to turn all of America into Chicago.

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    • westtexaslibraryladyComment by westtexaslibrarylady
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:19 pm

      And in what’s left of Detroit, too. Why is there no outrage at the lack of attention paid to Black victims attacked or killed by Black criminals? Or Hispanic on Hispanic crime? Ignoring those crimes and the tragedy of the deaths are clearly racial issues. If it has always been “racist” and wrong for white administrations to ignore them, then why is more attention not being paid to them now? Surely it would be logical that with a sympathetic administration more attention would be paid to resolving the issues that cause all crime in minority areas.

      Naturally, one of the answers is that it’s not news. How can the public be riled into a blind frenzy? The fact that it’s not news should make everyone very angry, and certainly those minorities who trusted that the changes in the administration would make race issues better, not worse.

      Why is no one asking Holder and Obama why the Black boys killed by other Black boys are not every bit as important as Black boys killed by non-Blacks or police officers (of any race, color or creed)?

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  7. davebnmComment by davebnm
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:28 am

    Mr. Holder.
    You should drop all of the armed Secret Service protection that you are afforded by the law abiding, tax paying citizens and see if you ever need to “Stand Your Ground.” I want you to walk down a South Chicago street to test this theory, preferably at night.

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    • odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
      July 17, 2013 @ 3:40 pm

      davebnm – When Holder walks down that South Chicago street without Secret Service protection, I’d love to see him get mugged and then defend himself. Let’s see the look on his face when told he’s charged with assault for defending himself. Since he’s fighting so hard to make defending oneself a crime. I’d smile at seeing him convicted for defending himself against a criminal act. I’d laugh if they stuck him in the same jail cell with the person who mugged him!

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  8. davebnmComment by davebnm
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:33 am

    Yeah, 17 year old teens are all innocent and incapable of killing an adult?
    .
    “Teen accused in El Paso police officer’s death charged with capital murder
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    The 17-year-old arrested in the violent beating death of an El Paso police officer last month is now charged with capital murder, court records show.

    A state district court grand jury indicted Juan Antonio Gonzalez on Tuesday in connection with the brutal beating of Officer Jonathan Molina, 29, on Sept. 25 on a Central El Paso street. Molina died nine days after the attack.”
    .

    http://www.elpasotimes.com/tablehome/ci_21843760/teen-accused-el-paso-officers-fatal-beating-indicted

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:38 am

      The prisons are full of those kinds of kids tried as adults, violent and angry honestly? To let them out is just allowing for more danger to society.

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    • mjz4043Comment by mjz4043
      July 17, 2013 @ 9:37 pm

      Please note…this 17 yo BEAT TO DEATH an armed officer. Poor Zimmerman had the choice…let the 17 yo beat him to death or shoot him before he could. Guess Zimmerman was smarter than that poor ElPaso cop, but he ruined his life and his parents life. They are now homeless and broke and running from the death threats.

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  9. genesalComment by genesal
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:40 am

    WHY NOW?

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:20 am

      Legerdemain. Obama is up to something and wants everyone looking at the freak show while he sets up the main event.

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    • curmudgeon2Comment by curmudgeon2
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:59 pm

      Hey Legerdmain, What is the main event?
      Riots? Then Martial Law declared? Then DHS commencing with Jihad?

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    • lokiswifeComment by lokiswife
      July 17, 2013 @ 3:18 pm

      Why now? Obama is not one to let a crisis go to waste, even if it is a made-up crisis. It’s a smoke screen against other things like Benghazi, IRS, NSA, the stream of corruption stories coming out, and a stonewall against the big story that can take him down – Extortion 17, the helicopter crash that killed the SEALs from the Bin Laden “kill”. The stinky trail on that one leads directly back to the commander in chief who had to okay the variations from normal protocol that set the copter up for disaster. The investigators still need to find the answer to the question: Where was the commander in chief from 5 pm to midnight the night that Benghazi went down? Instead the news is on Zimmerman and Trayvon.

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    • wumingrenComment by wumingren
      July 17, 2013 @ 4:09 pm

      The main event could be anything this rogue government wants to do while America is distracted. I was thinking that while everyone is distracted with the possibility of riots and martial law, this rogue government does something like give the Aleutian Islands to Russia, or unilaterally destroy our missile defense program, or something equally treasonous as it relates to openning the back gate to communists of the sort we know as Bill Ayers and others like him. To secure the communist revolution in America, say the Weathermen, upwards of 25 million “die-hard capitialists” must be liquidated.

      BTW, I am Wumingren. Legerdemain means “slight of hand,” like that used by magicians to distract the audience by pointing at the prety assistant or tossing a smoke/flash with one hand, while with the other hand he does what he wants to do without being noticed.

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    • mjz4043Comment by mjz4043
      July 17, 2013 @ 9:44 pm

      It’s the old shell game…distract them while you continue with your illegal activities.

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  10. justinphilpotComment by justinphilpot
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:50 am

    it’s pretty obvious that holder has never been without “hired personal protection” and that is good because i feel certain there are people out there who would do him in a heart beat.
    but the point is, like all the “powerful people” he has no concept of reality or the dangers of the world we live in thanks to the legal system loop holes.

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:49 am

      It’s easy to be “Bad” when you have your armed crew behind you.

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  11. knanComment by knan
    July 17, 2013 @ 9:58 am

    I wish we had a black president who is a real president, not a real black. imagine how inspiring that would be to blacks to be told by the pres to pull yourself up, knock that chip off your shoulder, stop blaming others and make something of yourself. Imagine how that would put a big damper on what little white-to-black racism exists in this country. Imagine how that would put a damper on black-to-white racism if they were told they are to blame for their problems.

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:43 am

      Bill Cosby said that and look what it got him. Some people just don’t want to hear the truth.

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    • kennethComment by kenneth
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:48 am

      knan. davebrm’s right. Can’t have those slaves wandering off the plantation, now, can we. Wouldn’t be good for strategy. You know. Turning the U.S. into a third world swamp while picking the pockets of hard-working, law-abiding citizens.

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:40 am

      We can always do that by electing a conservative Black man Like Dr Carson or a rabd Paul/Carson ticket. We don’t need lifelong Politicians and community racist agitators. He’d be a great role model. Chiel of Neurosurgury at the number one top Hospital in the country?

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    • curmudgeon2Comment by curmudgeon2
      July 17, 2013 @ 1:06 pm

      Very Good Deb !
      To top it all off they are not just another Lawyer who could not build their own practice, so decided to run on the Democratic ticket and receive their gaurenteed pay check from the Government.

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    • golfrComment by golfr
      July 17, 2013 @ 2:12 pm

      But the sad part is: he is not black….he is cafe` alait`….half and half…..that means he also has Caucasion DNA in his Un-American genes…how truly sad for America

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    • odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
      July 17, 2013 @ 4:00 pm

      When I hear the phrase “black leader”, it sickens me when it’s followed by names like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and a few others. My idea of a “black leader” (hell, my idea of a LEADER no matter what his race) is Dr. Bill Cosby. We need a lot more Dr. Cosbys and a lot fewer Jesse Jacksons.

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  12. genesalComment by genesal
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:12 am

    Obama could at least let ObamaCare cover ICGPS Disorder.

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  13. JDZComment by JDZ
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:13 am

    The behavior of several influential Black leaders in our country, like Eric Holder and Barack Obama, although they may think they are doing something good for their communities, are misguided and actually setting back race relations in our country. Whatever the degree of grievances that many in the Black community have with our country and our leaders, the current behavior of the recently empowered top leaders like Holder and Obama are creating more political polarization and racist issues then at any time in our country since the civil war.

    African Americans are not immigrants to our country. Yes, their origins and history was through slave trade which was common in the world for thousands of years and did not originate in America, but the last few generations were born here and are all American citizens who Martin Luther King who gave his life to help break free of this victim mentality and blame game for their lot in life. He was a great man who “got it” and set the stage for African Americans to have and embrace the opportunities of this exceptional country.

    What is happening today, however, which started intensely when Obama was elected, is setting the country back and is going down a very dangerous path for the country and especially Black Americans. This obsession with the belief that America is going to disarm themselves because of high levels of gun violence which is primarily concentrated in the Black dominated inner cities is a pipe dream. Holder, who is the worst Attorney General in our modern history, has revealed his racist advocacy and, along with Obama, have exposed their racist attitudes. It is so blatant that it is creating a groundswell of negative reactions across the country and is undermining race relations in the country. This is not good.

    Every other minority in this country has embraced the American culture to a large extent and have found ways for themselves and families to make a way for themselves in our country. Asians, Italians, Germans, Hipanics, Jews, etc. have found ways to leverage the opportunities in our country, and their complaints and issues are typical and mainstream. What is happening within the Blacks in his country? Why, with all of the civil rights and affirmative action legislation that has been passed and implemented in this country, haven’t they done better? The federal government, going back to the civil war where hundreds of thousands of White Americans gave their lives to free Blacks from slavery, has gone out of its way to open doors and pave the way for American Blacks to have opportunities for all this country has to offer.

    All I hear from many Black leaders is negative and critical of our country. They continue to blame Caucasian Americans for the problems Blacks have in our country. They contend that the lack of education, the high rates of crime within Black communities, the high level of single parent families, the high level of abortions and unwed Mothers, the high level of school dropouts, the high levels of unemployment within young Blacks, and the overall lower then average income of Black households is all due to racially based discrimination of a White dominated country.

    How sad is that? Cannot Black Americans figure out what is happening? They need to step back and get over this victim mentality and take individual control of their lives and stop listening to Black leaders who have continually propagated this perception of themselves as being discriminated against by White supremists, etc. and that their lot in life is due to factors out of their control. Blacks, like everyone else, has to embrace some basic fundamentals of life starting with accepting individual responsibility for their lives and reject this brainwashed mentality of having to be dependent on others and government subsidies for their lives.

    Black leaders like Obama, Holder, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson are making matters worse in terms of race relations and that is going to backfire in the long run if it continues. Sooner or later the more educated and savvy Black Americans ar going to bring things back into a positive path, but things could get worse before it gets better.

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    • larsongpComment by larsongp
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:52 am

      Very well thought out and very well said! There’s a handful of black leaders that are determined to stir the pot whereas if they would do something useful and work with “their people” and help them take advantage of the opportunities afforded to all Americans, the tensions would dissolve. America is about hard work. Anyone willing to put in their time and take personal responsibility can improve their life and the lives of those around them.
      Instead, these black “leaders” are bound and determined to keep “their people” under their thumbs, guiding them to one hot spot after another just to stir up trouble. As the leadership goes, so goes the followers.
      Unfortunately, for someone, particularly, a Caucasian, to disagree with someone else’s point of view is either hatred or racism and the black leadership approves and encourages this horrible attitude. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, but to twist the knife so that the race-divide widens, is neither helpful nor productive. Get rid of the leaders perpetuating this mess and the lives of “their people” and the rest, improve by magnitude.

      Thanks again for your well thought out views. This is the kind of dialogue we need in this country.

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    • usar4meComment by usar4me
      July 17, 2013 @ 2:17 pm

      JDZ… may I have permission to post your comments on another site with a full byline? Waiting for your reply… Thanks RA Nelson.

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  14. maisyandmollyComment by maisyandmolly
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:20 am

    If someone on drugs were sitting on eric holders belly pounding him in the face & bashing his head into the cement, I’ll bet he would be glad to have a stand your ground law & a gun to get the attacker to stop. eric holder is a racist against Hispanic & white people, just like barack hussein obama is & the naacp is & his followers are,

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:29 am

      I think eric would say, “Thank you sir, may I have another?” – Animal House

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  15. darl444Comment by darl444
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:29 am

    Holder says: Retreat, retreat, retreat. Let the radicals have your ground. Now why are we in Afghanistan…just to retreat? Are the police going to use the same tactics, retreat? Holder is an idiot, a philosophy of retreat will just bring us more aggressors.

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    • davebnmComment by davebnm
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:47 am

      You can only retreat so far before you decide to
      “Stand Your Ground.”

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    • rzraickComment by rzraick
      July 17, 2013 @ 10:30 pm

      Holder’s agenda has nothing to do with safety or the law. He is part of the plot to destroy the U.S. It is not hard to see through this.

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  16. freebirdComment by freebird
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:30 am

    Holder is a politician, a fool, and a panderer. SYG only has impact in this case if TM’s family attempts to sue him. A hearing will immunize him from suit and make the plaintiff pay court costs, legal fees and lost income. I don’t thing they are that dumb, maybe.

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  17. teufelhundeComment by teufelhunde
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:49 am

    The entrance of AG Eric Holder with music and all seems like a cheap late night creature features show. How insane can this man be pushing this whole race freak show when his own FBI found no evidence of racism involved in the case of Martin/Zimmerman. HUD? Please, give me a break, another agency of the rogue establishment gone wild is reporting about misconduct. When is the law enforcement or military leaders of this nation going to grow a backbone and charge/arrest these clowns in suits for treason and complete disregard to the Constitution? When will Congress do their job and take out the redcoats within their ranks? Oh, wait, Congress is part of the problem with the way our country is being flushed down the global toilet. The three branches of government are actually guilty of abuses against the people of this nation, so, that puts us back to looking to our LEO’s and military leaders to do the correct thing in maintaining the law of the land as such. The laws enacted by these usurpers are null if they are not in compliance with the Constitution. I say the only senseless thing about all this is Holder and this rotten to the core administration.
    III

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    • usar4meComment by usar4me
      July 17, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

      The original prosecutor was relieved of his office when he refused to charge… the Chief of Police was fired when he refused to charge… the investigating officers were threatened and the State had to find/search for a judge to take the case… others were intimidated and fired for their parts in resisting this bogus race bating trial.

      When will the people rise up to support those individuals… if you expect your local law enforcement and prosecutors to act in your interest you will need to be ready to assemble in mass to support them. It is quite obvious that the senior leadership in the State of Florida had no intention of defending Zimmerman’s right to ‘Stand His Ground’… they all ran for cover… COWARDS EVERYONE.

      We can not have a pubic debate about race because those with the public platforms too engage such debate are COWARDS.. they simply will not do what is necessary to focus the people’s attention on the real abusers of the race issues in America. They are more interested in protecting their personal interest than solving this very difficult but critical issue.

      It is time to call the BLACK population to accountability for their RACIST attitudes and horrible track record when it comes to lawful conduct. If we can not breech the core issues of BLACK RASCISM we will never solve the problem… as the problem is BLACK RASCISM.

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  18. mjz4043Comment by mjz4043
    July 17, 2013 @ 10:51 am

    How about some justice for our men killed in Benghazi? Or all those poor souls dead from the gun fiasco in Fast and Furious? It is the DOJ that is insisting there was racial profiling. Listen to the 911 tape…Z had no clue what color this hoodie wearing person was. He had no idea of his age or anything else about him. Holder would have done exactly the same thing Z did if he were accosted and being beaten half to death. What other option is there if you have a weapon? Lie there and take it rather than upset unreasonable people. He could have been killed or had permanent brain damage.

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  19. usar4meComment by usar4me
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:21 am

    This is not about race… its about our right to self-defense and the 2d Amendment. The underlying issue has always been the principal of self-defense and the ‘Stand Your Ground’ concept… it was not about Zimmerman.

    The government doesn’t want you to be independent and the underlying precept of self-defense is essential to freedom… The able to protect ones life, property, and family/friends without government assistance makes one free, able to remain independent. Men like Holder want you teathered to them for your security and ability to exist. Holder would create a culture that is similar to the FUEDAL days when the surfs were disarmed and dependent upon their masters and Lords for their protection, the administration of justice, and just about everything else in life.

    Holder wants you so dependent upon government that you must pledge ‘fealty’ to the Government… as a member of their new ‘fiefdom’. Welcome to a ‘new world order’; one, that is actually not so new. Make no mistake a people disarmed and unable to defend themselves are a DEPENDENT people. Holder and his cronies want you so dependent upon them, that you have to bow to them as the new overlords in the land, or starve and go unprotected in a very dangerous world of their making.

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  20. joe23006Comment by joe23006
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:24 am

    It is time for Holder and the president who appointed him to respect the rule of law granted by The Constitution. Both have ignored it because it restricts their power, the purpose becomes obvious when they try to do an end run around law when it serves their ends.
    Justice is supposed to blind, weighing the evidence. Now it is to be racially sensitive so that the ‘right’ verdict is reached.

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    • usar4meComment by usar4me
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:32 am

      In a feudal system justice is what your master says it is… Men like Holder have no intention on obeying the laws of righteous men. Like all despots there is only one law and that is the law of might makes right… the law of the sword.

      However, for that to work the people’s swords must first be taken… and their moral destroyed. They must first be shackled to the plow and made servants of the government. In order to do that they must give up their freedom and what better way to entice men to do so, than to offer them security and subsistence from cradle to grave.

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:45 am

      Joe? It’s just time they go period and take all their liberal progressives with them. We have to vote for whoever it is on the right no wavcering just grab the control back then we can fine tune future candidates

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  21. kingstonjwComment by kingstonjw
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:29 am

    It makes little sense to me that I should have a legal obligation to flee from a bully or a criminal. For some reason this case seems to twist the law in a way where I may become obligated to sacrifice my individual liberty to be where I am legally allowed to be in order to allow the State, with its infinite and efficient resources, time to respond, report, and decide what to do… I can’t imagine the havoc such a legal obligation would cause to our current understanding of freedom and our system of justice…

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    • iceman67Comment by iceman67
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:34 am

      A fleeing person makes for a VERY easy target!

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    • usar4meComment by usar4me
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:37 am

      This is not about common sense… its about making you dependent on the government for your security. A free man is not free if he is unable to act independently too secure his freedom. This is the underlying precept that anchors all our freedoms.

      The Feudal Lords of a bygone era understood this precept and kept their ‘surfs’ shackled to the plow and their patronage by keeping them disarmed and dependent on them for their sustenance. Men like Holder are attempting to yoke us all to their plows as dependents of a New FUEDAL order.

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  22. iceman67Comment by iceman67
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:31 am

    Who the hell does this man think he is? It is his sworn duty to uphold the constitution and the law! Stand your ground is a law in Florida and many other states. The constitution provides for the right to LIFE and your ability to defend it. This man should be arrested and charged with treason!

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 11:47 am

      Who does he THINK he is? Ask him, he is above the law,above the constitution and a stone cold racist pig with an ego the size of Obama’s in fact his ego is so big OBAMA Kowtows to him.

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    • mjz4043Comment by mjz4043
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:44 pm

      Holder thinks he is THE law. I have seen some pretty arrogant AGs in my life, but this man is over the top. And he is so freaking hard on the eyes.

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  23. spindizzyComment by spindizzy
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:44 am

    “–senselessly expands the concept of self-defense–” Holder, you lying ***, what would you know about what is sensible and what isn’t? Here’s a question for you…let’s suppose that the incidents of that night had gone differently and GZ didn’t have his gun with him. Darling little Trayvon would have beat the living shyte out of GZ to the point of either maiming him for life or killing him. What do you suppose would have happened then? Think darling Trayvon would have then called the cops? HA! Nope, he would have “just left him lay”, gone on over to that fat bimbo girlfriends house of his, and probably bragged all over his Facebook page about how he beat up another cracker, after he got high again on skittles and cough syrup. Even supposedly “conservative” talking heads O’Reilly and Hannity keep refusing to bring up all this Facebook info and darling Trayvon’s criminal record, still trying to make this sound like such a tragedy. What the hell is the matter with THOSE guys? Tragedy NOT! That is what usually happens to hoodlum punks! If it hadn’t happened to darling Trayvon now it would have probably happened in the near future. …”if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon…”. Hopefully!

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    • usar4meComment by usar4me
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:03 pm

      What’s wrong with Hannity and O’Reilly… they are SHILL’s strategically placed to provide us with a sense of ‘hope’ and a cathartic voice for our frustration. if these men were truly interested in reforming government they would take the lead too organize an effective campaign for reform.

      They would become the new versions of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc… however, that would be more risk than they are willing to take. They are the summer soldiers and sunshine patriots that Thomas Paine wrote about. Fair weather entertainment that may in fact be doing more harm by providing the people with a way to vent… than bringing them to a boil and real action.

      Thomas Paine had something to say about summer soldiers and sunshine patriots that may be relevant to those like Hannity and O’Reilly…

      See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis

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  24. usar4meComment by usar4me
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:49 am

    Eric is the forerunner of a group of men who believe they know best and are willing to shackle us all with their chains of bondage… the underlying principal of self-defense secures our individual liberties. Hence, he is all about destroying that right… the 2d Amendment and the precepts in law such as ‘Stand Your Ground’ go counter to his idea of a new world order, where we all become the surfs of a revisited ‘FEUDAL’ order.

    TO be free one must have the UNDISPUTED right of self-defense… Holder is all about taking that right away. Tell your Congress men and women that you are not falling for this trap… the government can not guarantee your security or liberty. Any government able to guarantee your security and liberty is also big enough to take your liberty and security… too, shackle you to their demands. A free people must have the independent right of self-defense and to be ARMED in such a way as to be able to defend themselves.

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    • rivahmitchComment by rivahmitch
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:23 pm

      It’s April of 1775 all over again and the reds (with or without their coats) are coming (soon to your neighborhood too). Lock and load! Semper Fi!

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  25. genesalComment by genesal
    July 17, 2013 @ 11:58 am

    It’s simple to them! Our Forebearers enslaved them, now they want to enslave our future generations. We need our Lincoln!

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    • dealerdeb1Comment by dealerdeb1
      July 17, 2013 @ 12:00 pm

      We need to have our guns and enough ammo to fight back figuratively speaking.

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