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With veto override, concealed carry becomes law in Illinois

By St. Louis Post-Dispatch (MO)

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. --With the fall Tuesday of the nation's last statewide ban on concealed weapons, March 2014 becomes a pivotal month in Illinois.

The Legislature passed the state's first concealed-carry permit law Tuesday over the fervent objections of Gov. Pat Quinn. March is the projected time when Illinois residents will begin carrying handguns in public, after what's expected to be a nine-month implementation for the new law.

March is also the month that Quinn is expected to ask fellow Democrats to back him for another term, in the 2014 primaries. Among his arguments is likely to be that he tried hard to mitigate concealed carry.

"Today was a bad day for public safety in Illinois," Quinn told reporters in Springfield, hours after a General Assembly controlled by his own party handed him a rebuke on the issue. Both chambers overrode his amendatory veto of the gun bill by wide margins.

"I always do what I think in my conscience is right for the people. I think it was a proper and safe thing to do," Quinn said. "It's the job of the governor to always fight for the common good, for the people."

The Illinois State Police still has 180 days under the law to set up the implementation system for concealed carry. Applicants will have to wait as long as an additional 90 days to get their permits after that.

Illinois residents will have to pay $150 for the permits, and nonresidents will be charged $300. All applicants will have to complete a 16-hour training course, the toughest requirement in the country and twice that of Missouri.

The new law doesn't contain a reciprocity provision, meaning Missouri concealed-carry permits and those of other states won't allow carrying in Illinois unless the holder also obtains an Illinois permit. However, the law does contain a "drive-through" provision that allows licensed carriers from other states to travel through Illinois with their guns kept in their vehicles without getting an Illinois license.

The Illinois State Police has said that the agency anticipates 300,000 applications in the first year.

Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan -- herself a potential primary challenger to Quinn in next year's governor's race -- has been considering whether to appeal that ruling the U.S. Supreme Court. But Madigan's office has said the Legislature's passage of the concealed-carry law renders the issue moot.

Quinn last week attempted to write sweeping new restrictions into the concealed-carry bill that legislators sent him. With a court-imposed Tuesday deadline looming to have a law in place and legislators vowing a veto override, Quinn over the weekend gamely predicted "a showdown."

But it turned out to be more like an ambush. With little debate, the House and Senate both voted by wide margins to override Quinn's amendatory veto and put the original bill into law.

Illinois was under orders from the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago to have a concealed-carry law in place by Tuesday. The court ruled the state's last-in-the-nation ban on concealed carry was unconstitutional.

Had the Legislature not acted by Tuesday's deadline, the state could have immediately had to allow concealed carry, with no restrictions on the practice.

It was under that threat that the Democrat-controlled General Assembly sent a concealed-carry bill to Quinn in May for his signature.

But Quinn, a vocal opponent of concealed carry, instead used Illinois' unusual "amendatory veto" provision last week to write extensive new proposed restrictions into the bill.

Quinn added a one-gun carrying limit and a 10-round limit on ammunition magazines. He also attempted to add a provision that would ban guns anywhere that served alcohol (the original bill banned them only from bars). He tried to create a default assumption that gun-carriers aren't welcome in any business without signs inviting them in, and to give employers the right to bar guns from any part of the workplace, including parking lots.

The House on Tuesday easily overrode Quinn's amendatory veto, 77-31. The Senate followed suit hours later, 41-17.

Quinn's move, and the fact that he waited until days before the court-imposed deadline to do it, drew the ire of gun proponents and opponents alike because it injected a big dose of uncertainty into the issue.

"If we do not override, at 12:01 a.m. tomorrow, July 10, there are no restrictions upon people who want to carry handguns in public," warned Sen. Kwame Raoul, D-Chicago, during Senate floor debate. Raoul, a gun-control advocate, said he agrees with Quinn's changes but that they came too late.

Some Quinn critics have suggested he actually hurt the gun-control agenda by staging the 11th-hour showdown with lawmakers. They say he might have gotten further with a less-dramatic strategy of working with lawmakers early on to add his ideas to the bill.

Bill Daley, the former White House chief of staff and gun-control advocate who has launched a primary challenge to Quinn, slammed him for touting his proposed gun restrictions at high-profile community events rather than behind closed doors with lawmakers.

"I know he's gone to churches and he's prayed, but hope and praying are not a strategy," Daley told reporters outside the Statehouse on Tuesday as the override vote loomed. "There wasn't a concerted effort driven by the governor" to get the restrictions into the bill earlier.

"One would have to raise the question," Daley added. "Was this a political statement or a real attempt to have a solution to a problem that plagues our state and nation?"

Quinn, in remarks to later to reporters, testily denied he'd been disengaged from the legislative process . "I spoke about this to members of the Legislature over and over again," he said.

Quinn vowed to continue pushing for future laws to implement the changes he sought. "More than ever, I'm committed to getting follow-up legislation passed."

The bill is HB183.

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  1. inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
    July 10, 2013 @ 9:03 am

    “Today was a bad day for public safety in Illinois,” WHAT?????

    No Mr. Quin,,,today is a bad day for the Criminals of Illinois who now find it more rewarding to become politicians than outright home breakers, who turn their noses up on a single break-in robbery when it can be done in mass through sanctuary created cities. Today’s modern criminal political malfactors understand that the BIG MONEY is in the dishonest tax theft of honest wealth where you no longer go to jail for such actions but get elevated into higher positions of power. Some from Illinois even make it to President. It looks like the people of Illinois have finally had enough and are taking their state back to the original Constitutional intent that the designing founders envisioned. Score one for team honesty,,,take one off the board for Team dishonestly. Score one for team individual rights,,,,take one off the board for team social collective rights. The worm is beginning to turn for Red State cities like Chicago and the big Apple.

    When you misguidedly and Liberally fight for the common good of the people you perceive as just common, you forget you are dealing with a nation of people of exception who eventually awake and rebel. The good people of Illinois can now defend themselves in a gun fight equally armed with more than the teleprompted words of their feckless leaders and their politcally corrected disarmed feminized police forces turned by the Liberal leaders from people who used to protect and defend, but now are just ticketing wealth re-distributors in disguise.

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  2. knanComment by knan
    July 10, 2013 @ 9:27 am

    the hoops to jump through to get permitted are so small and high it’s likely few people will even try, especially since anyone can be denied for any reason whatsoever. how can this state manage this when thy can even get FOID cards applications processed? I applied for my renewal 5 months ago and i’m still waiting and owning my guns illegally in the meantime. everyone outside of the city wishes Chicago would slide off into the lake and take the liberal idiots with it.

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  3. justinphilpotComment by justinphilpot
    July 10, 2013 @ 10:27 am

    welcome to America and the 21st century illinois.

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  4. JDZComment by JDZ
    July 10, 2013 @ 11:15 am

    Chicago has become the murder capital in our country and 91% of the murders are Black on Black and happen in the inner city. This concealed gun permit is not going to help that problem as we know that most of those living in the inner city will not pay to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon and none of the criminal element will register for a permit.

    This new law is good for the basically law abiding citizens in Illinois as are most of our gun laws in the country. It gives the Illinois citizens some limited degree of additional ability to protect themselves against the growing potentially dangerous environment in our country spurred by the stagnant economy and high levels of unemployment within the country.

    When more and more citizens of a country cannot find a job and provide for themselves and family, and then begin to lose hope of finding a way out of this circumstance other then going on welfare, which is contrary to a healthy mindset for most educated and trained Americans, it can lead to human behavior at levels that this country has yet to experience. We have a potentially ideologically based volatile situation brewing that is being stoked by our stagnant economy and growing irresponsibly managed federal government.

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    • glennComment by glenn
      July 10, 2013 @ 12:39 pm

      JDZ the only one’s that ever follow the law are law abiding citizens.

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  5. doszapComment by doszap
    July 10, 2013 @ 12:29 pm

    Left Wingers are unreal!.
    Good Lord people wake up!,HOW many murders do you need to see that your people NEED a way to protect themselves?.

    Check your states murder stats(with your progressive insane laws),against CCP states rates.

    YOU are #1 in Chi Town,and #1 in the USA, duh!.
    Wake up and smell the coffee, I guess innocents lives do not matter, just YOURS?.

    Appears to be your kinds take,typical of 90% of liberal Democrats.

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  6. Eagle525Comment by eagle525
    July 10, 2013 @ 4:08 pm

    Maybe Quinn, the dictator, will go the way of his predecessors … to prison. Illinois is home to corrupt governors and spawned the current corrupt POTUS. Its about time that the IL State Legislature did the right thing. Now if they can just stop the wild spending and get the IL financial house in order resident will see a brighter future,

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