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Connecticut Eager For Licenses For Illegal Aliens

By The Hartford Courant, Connecticut

NEW HAVEN - About 2,000 supporters of a pair of bills that would permit undocumented immigrants to obtain a Connecticut drivers license turned out for a public hearing Monday night.

The crowd filled the auditorium, cafeteria and gymnasium of Wilbur Cross High School, where members of the legislature's transportation committee had gathered to collect testimony.

They heard from Mayor John DeStefano, top legislative leaders and Catholic priests. But they also heard from dozens of illegal immigrants, who brought deeply personal stories, in both English and Spanish, of how they must drive to get to work, or to pick up their children, even though they are breaking the law and live in fear of being stopped by police.

"We're always scared," said Veronica Noria, a factory worker in her 20s from Mexico who now lives in New Haven. "A lot of people get stopped on their way to work."

The debate in Connecticut comes as officials in Washington continue to spar over national immigration policy.

"We all know that our nation's immigration law is broken; this is part of the reason we have so many residents who lack legal credentials," said Senate Majority Leader Martin Looney, a New Haven Democrat who introduced one of the proposals. "However, whatever may be your view on federal immigration policy, these individuals are residents of our communities and the question we need to answer is what policies regarding these residents will best serve the goals of enhanced public safety and sound public policy?"

Looney said the legislation represents "a common sense public safety measure" because more drivers would be trained and licensed. They would also be more likely to carry insurance.

As many of as 54,000 illegal immigrants would qualify if the legislation is approved. Connecticut would be the third state to enact such a law -- New Mexico, Washington state and, most recently Illinois, all offer some form of drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. Legislation is under consideration in several other states, including Massachusetts, Minnesota and California.

The Illinois law, signed by Gov. Pat Quinn earlier this year, provides illegal immigrants with the opportunity to obtain a special, three-year temporary license that cannot be used for identification to board an airplane or purchase a gun.

Melody A. Currey, commissioner of the Connecticut Department of Motor Vehicles, said such a policy "may be workable" here, and said she was willing to work with supporters of the bills.

Some critics have said issuing licenses to illegal immigrants opens the door to the potential for fraud, but supporters say there are enough safeguards in place to prevent that. No one who spoke Monday night opposed the bills.

Father James Manship, pastor of St. Rose of Lima Church in New Haven and a leading advocate for immigrant rights in the state, echoed Looney's argument that public safety will be enhanced if either Senate Bill 628 or Senate Bill 68 is approved by the legislature.

"Driving will be safer because more people be trained, tested and licensed," Manship told the committee. They will also have a greater stake in the civic life of the state.

But ultimately, Manship and others who back the bills say, it's a matter of fairness.

"To simply be able to drive your kids to school, to work and to do what so many of us take for granted --essential parts of life. It isn't possible for a great majority of our parishioners.

"Our folks want to drive legally, they want to buy a car, they want to pay sales tax, register their cars, insure them, pay their propety taxes to their municipalities," Manship said. "And they really want to wait in line at DMV to get their license."

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  1. dodgecharger4404Comment by dodgecharger4404
    March 5, 2013 @ 8:29 am

    Why don’t these illegals pursue the already established avenues of citizenship? Or is that too cumbersome or expensive? If they really want to live here, own property, drive legally, buy insurance, pay sales tax, then they should also want to obtain those rights/privileges/responsibilities in the legal channels.

    I wonder too, will these same individuals be as anxious to pay for Obamacare, and for their children also be burdened with paying for the federal debt? When this economy crashes, most if not all of these will likewise suffer… perhaps then they will return to their native country.

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    • dfalzone1Comment by dfalzone1
      March 5, 2013 @ 10:27 am

      Hey waterway, Get your pronouns in order. We the people of the United States did not offer jobs to illegal aliens. Some jackass rich farmer offered them the jobs. If the democrats in congress in would support a meaningful everify act and stop offering welfare to every illegal to gain their political support, the whole problem would go away. We as a nation need to get a spine and send ALL illegals back to their home countries with all thier kids.

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    • joeycComment by joeyc
      March 5, 2013 @ 11:37 am

      @ waterway,

      Sorry waterway, WE, meaning citizens, haven’t created the problem but criminal employers and an uncaring government has created the problem, along with millions of illegal aliens. Also helping in creating this problem is corrupted foreign governments. Governments like Mexico that have encouraged their unwanted burden on us and benefited via funds sent back to their nations; strengthening their economies and hugely burdening our cities and states.

      There are literally millions of citizens or legal residents that for one legal reason or another cannot obtain a drivers license but drive for the same reasons illegal aliens; so these citizens and legal residents are illegally driving also. Using your logic and the illegal alien logic, it’s morally responsible that we grant drivers license to all citizens and or legal residents so they can drive. After all we don’t wish to be discriminatory or play favorites concerning enforcing traffic laws, if the person driving illegally has some moral justification, do we?
      We end this problem with more enforcement and deportations,not rewards for being criminals.

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    • waterwayComment by waterway
      March 5, 2013 @ 2:18 pm

      That is exactly the point and the underlying problem. “THERE IS NO ADEQUATE LEGAL MEANS AVAILABLE TO THEM!” What is so hard for some to understand here? Many of these illegals pay thousands of dollars to coyotes to smuggle them across the border at great personal risk. Do you really think that they would not prefer to pay some fee for a work visa and come here legally? The quotas are way to low for the need. WE create the problem by offering the jobs and then condemn them for coming here to help us. Absolute silliness.

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    • SAnnComment by SAnn
      March 5, 2013 @ 3:24 pm

      The legal way would be to return to their own country wherever that may be and do all the paperwork and pay the cost as my daughter-in-law and son did and to obey the laws as they did and do. Now, WE … did not ask them to come over and work it was the people who have businesses that prefer to get ‘cheap labor’ just like China has where all of our strong businesses have gone because of their ‘cheap labor’. So, your sob story for people who have paid ‘coyotes’ thousands of $$ to get them across the border illegally is not compelling to those of us who pay taxes and support them when they get here with free health care and free education. This is why our hospitals, schools, etc. have been affected with the huge cost of giving free medical/care and education to those that did not come here to actually want to be an American but want to send their money back to their families in whatever country they come from which is mainly Mexico! Do not preach to us and support the unlawful entry into this country that has filled out jails with those that have murdered, raped, and the perverted group that have molested children we have enough of our own who do that.

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    • Vic BaileyComment by Vic Bailey
      March 5, 2013 @ 4:07 pm

      That’s what is wrong with the country, too many bleeding hearts to make the laws as they see fit! Do away with the death sentance, shorter time in prison, it’s OK to be a child molester because you were a victim, let the illegals stay as long as they want and they don’t have to Assimulate to our laws and customs! You sick people have lost your minds. People came to America to get away from the Same **** that you all are now starting, because we now have too many laws that don’t work and too many judges and lawyers that are above the laws, that you all make it so, people can do what they want, when they want and there is NO ONE to stop them! You want to throw away the good laws and replace them with laws that will NEVER work! There is ONLY ONE AMERICA, a shing light to the world and now because of the bleeding hearts, America is on her way out to be replaced with a Socialist state with NO FREEDOM! Semper Fi.

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  2. bf39Comment by bf39
    March 5, 2013 @ 9:06 am

    We can’t even take care of our SENIORS, VETS and OUR NATIONAL DEBT. Now the dems want to make the illegals legal and then what? I’m sure those with children will get obama welfare before the seniors who need it get food stamps. I have nothing against hispanics. I have some good friends who are hispanics, but they are legal. In fact they lived with me and my husband for a while until they could afford rent.

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    • johnsnareComment by johnsnare
      March 13, 2013 @ 4:39 am

      You nailed it beautifully,bf39. As a retired senior, our Muslim in Chief, eliminated the COLA, for seniors, two year in a row, but the FREE STUFF, was still available to the illegal population. I spent forty years, in the insurance industry, in New Jersey, and can tell you first hand, these folks were truly dangerous on the roads. NJ, is a compulsory insurance State, and all they would do, is put a small deposit for their insurance policy, and receive the insurance I.D., and we never saw them again for a year. Yep, real outstanding, law abiding citizens. P.S. They could not speak a word of English, must less understand our language. How did they pass the exams.?

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  3. haditinsdComment by haditinsd
    March 5, 2013 @ 9:27 am

    The “Immigration Law” is only broken by those “Undocumented Workers”. Enforcement of the law is what is broken. Now we have Obama’s massive jailbreak of felonous ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Our problems won’t be solved until our Felon/Traitor in chief is impeached and convicted.

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  4. dogblu13Comment by dogblu13
    March 5, 2013 @ 9:39 am

    where i come from and living amongst them, they like to drive drunk and hope they’d forgotten in the mexican-american war of the way back in the middle 1800′s.that american stole from mexico all that land they can hold a grude, i seen them holding 2 12oz beer cans in each hand and drunk at mexican celebrations and sitting drunk spilling the beer on the floor and his wife denying he is drunk , best red flag that license in the land of our fore fathers don’t trust them. treat them as if they were as corrupt and liars as our american politicians, looking for real real cheap labor.

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    • onnasinkinshipComment by onnasinkinship
      March 5, 2013 @ 10:40 am

      are you drunk?

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  5. fabianComment by fabian
    March 5, 2013 @ 9:48 am

    Let me paraphrase the good father; ours folks want to drive legally so that they can borrow to buy a car to legally drive to collect SS, an Obama phone and their food stamps and receive the much needed dependent tax credit so that they can avoid to have their car reposed. And they readily accept to wait in line at DMV to get all these goodies.

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    • juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
      March 5, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

      Fabian loved your thinking here. You are so right on the money. What I do not understand is how all of these illegals are at this meeting? Why aren’t they rounded up and arrested instead of being allowed to protest because they cannot get a drivers license since they are illegal. Something is definetly wrong with all of us that we have allowed the politicians of this great nation to bring us to the brink of almost definite destruction of our Constitution and our country. All because we have become so complacent!

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  6. tps12Comment by tps12
    March 5, 2013 @ 10:51 am

    Liberals are the best, their undocumented it sounds so much better than illegal. So let’s put the undocumented people on a bus and send them back.

    So anyone driving without a license should just be considered undocumented or push your way into a movie theater and just tell them your undocumented why buy a ticket.

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  7. Repossess AmericaComment by Repossess America
    March 5, 2013 @ 11:33 am

    In other words, help them continue breaking the law. It is not in the interest of fairness. It is not fair to those who come here the legal way. You break our laws coming here and then want everybody to turn a blind eye to it? How about someone that robs a bank because they are broke and need the money to make a better life for themselves and their families? Do they get away with it? NO, they do not. So why should you get away with entering the United States illegally? You come here and take our jobs. Is that fair to us? With so many people that need jobs. You people seem to have no problem getting work and we know how you do it. You tell the employer you will work for less and he hires you. You are one main reason there are so many Americans out of work. How about being fair to the citizens of America and enforce the law? A new President can make you go back, or we could make it miserable for you to be here. Sick and tired of politicians putting Americans on the back burner. Sick and tired of you illegals being in my country.I will not leave my politicians alone untill they deport every last one of you.At work we have refused to work if they hire any of you. Guess what, they have NOT hired a single one of you criminal illegals. It’s a start.

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  8. bobbyc327Comment by bobbyc327
    March 5, 2013 @ 12:03 pm

    we the people,who are the real government,why should these illegal aliens care,when ******/satan and his unamerican treasonous traitors want them here,for more voter fraud,and to keep stealing theh legal taxpayers monies,and all kinds of benefits,while are vets are denied health care,and benefits for which they put there lives on the line for america,they should have beben all arrested,people,the longer you all this ineligible threat in the wh,and his unconstitituional adminstration remain in office,the longer you will have these illegal aliens,and this treason will continue.we the people time to gather and come together under one giant freedom umbrella,we have 535 treasonous traitors in government,and they won,t stop being on the taxpayers gravy train,not with emailing/faxing/phone calling them.don,t you understand they neither care or listen any more.god bless sheriff joe and cold case posse,dr oily taitz,chuck norris,frank serpico,and all legal american veternans/citizens.god bless america

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  9. capricorn1Comment by capricorn1
    March 5, 2013 @ 1:04 pm

    this nation has lost its dam mind,soul.and definateley its way.we are being herded by our own government to a mass slaughter especially christians.the obama regime is going overboard with drones and now tanks for homeland security along with weapons and ammo.king obama is setting up shop permantly in washington and no one can or will stop him.the greatest nation in the world is done stick a fork in her.

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  10. ranman948Comment by ranman948
    March 5, 2013 @ 1:21 pm

    And we wonder why so many American citizens cant find a job! They know their illegals. They know where they are working. They know the factory is employing illegals and they are thinking about giving them drivers licenses so they can continue to break our laws and steal steal jobs from legal citizens. Any public official who has knowledge of illegal aliens, companies that employ illegal aliens, and people who assist illegal aliens and do nothing to enforce the laws should be charged as exorcises and fired from their public offices.

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    • ranman948Comment by ranman948
      March 5, 2013 @ 6:48 pm

      Charged as accessories to the crime and fired from their public positions!

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  11. constitutionfirstComment by constitutionfirst
    March 5, 2013 @ 2:07 pm

    How can the Democrats advance their voter fraud initiative without illegal aliens possessing valid drivers licenses?
    Why isn’t the GOP all over this?
    Romney lost because of massive voter fraud and we haven’t heard BOO from the GOP.
    I have all but given up on you guys, where is your backbone?

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  12. ltparComment by ltpar
    March 5, 2013 @ 2:30 pm

    Illegal aliens should be afraid of being stopped by the Police, just as I would be, had I ilegally crossd into Mexico and were breaking the law. Two wrongs do not equal a right and the people of Connecticutt seem to be too dense to figure that out. Of course their state is not yet overun by the illegals, nor are their major cities populated by wantabee Cartel members. They had better be careful what they wish for, because California might send them some of it’s residents from south of the border.

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  13. hkazComment by hkaz
    March 5, 2013 @ 2:31 pm

    So they need a “legal” way to drive their kids to OUR schools so they can steal the education we pay for?

    Then thank’s to Clinton’s Motor Voter Laws they will end up voting too.

    Of course they will be able to take this “temporary” license to a different state and some other illegal or bleading heart progressive behinf the counter of DMV will give them a legit drivers license and they have sucessfully scammed us again.

    An illegal becomes “legaL” by scamming the system once again.

    Now everything in the country becomes free for them. Meantime you and I bust our ***** and just keep from drowning.

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  14. lokiswifeComment by lokiswife
    March 5, 2013 @ 2:36 pm

    There is one solution to the massive problems in this country – get rid of the cause of them. There is a bill in the House HR36 which would set up a select committee to in investigate and report on the attack at Benghazi. It already has 44 co-sponsors. The bill is online at thomas.gov
    Legal experts have said that there is more than enough evidence to start impeachment proceedings, stand up and fight! Don’t let them bury the story, also press for charges on his release of those illegal criminals held by ICE…

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  15. conniedrComment by conniedr
    March 5, 2013 @ 2:53 pm

    Well dang, how dare us make life so difficult for all the ILLEGALS in this country already breaking the law just being here! Heck, why should we even make them get driver’s licenses at all? Why bother them with the burden of having to wait in those long lines just to get one? And then have the burden of buying insurance, which most wouldn’t even if they had legal driver’s licenses! All ILLEGALS should be able to drive without one, and do whatever they please since they’re already breaking the law! O and his administration would support it! Only LEGAL Americans are expected to follow any of the laws currently on the books!

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    • dodgecharger4404Comment by dodgecharger4404
      March 5, 2013 @ 3:26 pm

      Very well stated. We could wish they would abide by the laws on our books, get gainful employment, full citizenship by the established standards, and pay their way, as working Americans do.

      However, the leftists have decided none of that is required, as long as they can corral their vote and stay in power.

      Those of us (whatever our skin-color) who are law-abiding, of the Christian faith, own guns, believe in limited government, are hated by the left. To them, we are only good for paying the national bills.

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  16. odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
    March 5, 2013 @ 3:11 pm

    CT is speaking loud and clear. They want to punish law-abiding citizens by taking away gun rights. They want to reward illegals for breaking the law. Our Founding Fathers would be freaking out right now!

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  17. kalidorComment by kalidor
    March 5, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

    I love how everyone in the picture and probably the rest of the audience were Hispanic. Why wasn’t ICE there with the bus’ to take them away? My Wife is a PR and she had to go through the whole process. Why on earth would we just give our country to everyone BUT us? I am beating a dead drum by saying all this yet why have we not stood up as one and tell these “law makers” that we do NOT want to give everything to people that are breaking Federal Law every day they are here? Stop whining about it and actually do something!

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  18. sumitchComment by sumitch
    March 5, 2013 @ 4:45 pm

    Our President has committed several impeachable constitutional offences and our Congress will do nothing showing that our politicos care more about their political parties than they do the citizens of the country. They care more about law breaking illegal aliens than they do our aged, infirm and veterans demonstrating they care more about buying the votes that will keep them in office than they do in honoring their oath (taken on a bible – but that’s another issue). We spend billions on illegal aliens because we must be humanitarians regardless of the cost to our citizens and country.

    We spend trillions in foreign aid, much of it going to such solid supporters as Pakistan, Afghanistan…even Russia and many, many more while we bury ourselves in debt. Then we cry about spending money that our children and grandchildren will have to repay.

    We send billions in state of the art war planes and tanks and send them to Egypt for no more reason than to give them greater power to destroy Israel which for some reason for the last four plus years we have insulted at every opportunity. Trillions of dollars spent that we must borrow to build the planes and tanks so that we can give them away. We thump our chests and tell Iran they’d better stop preparing for nuclear weapons or else. And they just go right ahead saying it’s for power, not bombs. And we know they never have lied.

    We ban drilling for oil in the Gulf and the drilling platforms go to Brazil who we loan money to so they can drill for oil and then say we are looking forward to being one of their best customers. We do everything we can to block the XL pipeline which would lessen our dependency on Mideastern oil and Canada simply cuts a deal with China for the oil. We use executive orders to circumvent Congress making them irrelevant. Our Supreme Court rewrites the cases brought before them so the President will have his way. Then we do our share by closingone wing of the white house to tourists.

    I’m wondering lately, just who is this “We”. I sure haven’t been invited to any meetings. We must be some of the biggest idiots the earth has ever produced. But as long as we get our bread and circuses, “We” don’t do anything.

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  19. gileyComment by giley
    March 5, 2013 @ 4:50 pm

    Clearly, this is just another sign that the illegal aliens will stop at nothing to have every right that a US citizen has. That is why amnesty is going to embolden their goal and do nothing to stop more illegal crossings. Rewarding law breakers never works to discourage more law breaking.

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  20. cabindwellerontheyukonComment by cabindwellerontheyukon
    March 5, 2013 @ 5:54 pm

    This is easy to understand—democratic states OR “a vote at ANY price”! They don’t want to drive without a license—–really. Their here illegally——-HELLO! Why should that concern them? Darn, while so many of those present were illegal the law missed a great opportunity to bag them!

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  21. glennComment by glenn
    March 5, 2013 @ 6:20 pm

    What most of you people fail to understand is we have already lost this country. If you look at the birth rate of the Mexicans they will control the country in less than 20 years. Right now they control good portions of the majority of states. I was a republican all my life but hot totally disgusted with the party as they have never had any guts. They knew back when Johnson ran for the senate he won with votes from the grave but didn’t want to raise a stink and have been that way ever since.

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  22. David in MAComment by David in MA
    March 5, 2013 @ 7:01 pm

    If this is approved you will see the vehicle homicide rate, drunken driving rate and robbery rate go up and there will not be a safe school crossing in the state!

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    • David in MAComment by David in MA
      March 5, 2013 @ 7:07 pm

      What part of illegal immigrants is so hard to understand?

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  23. anolesmanComment by anolesman
    March 5, 2013 @ 7:02 pm

    Oh let these poor people have a license even if they don’t know our laws regarding Stop Signs, red lights, no lights, signals. Who cares, let them drive until they kill someone but haven forbid if it is any children. We wouldn’t want that to happen would we? I know we could always suspend their license for a day or two, tell them to be careful next time.thats what a Democrat would tell them.

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  24. chieftainComment by chieftain
    March 5, 2013 @ 10:13 pm

    If North Korea or Iran ever do launch a strike against the U.S., we can only hope the primary target will be Connecticut, New York, New Jersey or any of the other northeast liberal bastions of illegal immigrant support.

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