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Senate gun control panel gets an earful

By United Press International

Gun violence victims testified before a U.S. Senate subcommittee Tuesday, offering varying takes in the face of a contentious debate over gun control.

Suzanna Hupp of Texas, who was eating at Luby's Restaurant in 1991 when a gunman crashed his pickup through the window and opened fire killing 23 people, including her parents, told lawmakers she was outraged no one in the restaurant was able to defend themselves.

"Honestly I don't view myself as a victim of gun violence, I view myself as a victim of a maniac who happened to use a gun as a tool," Hupp said. "And I view myself as a victim of the legislators that we had at the time that left me defenseless."

Hupp would go on to serve 10 years in the Texas legislator and author a book, "From Luby's to Legislature, One Woman's Fight Against Gun Control."

Hupp lamented having left her gun in the car that afternoon while eating lunch with her parents and told senators numerous lives could have been saved if she's carried it -- in violation of Texas concealed carry laws at the time.

"I've got to tell you, I was mad as heck at my legislators because I honestly believe that they legislated me out of the right to protect myself and my family," she said. "And I would much rather be sitting in jail right now with a felony offense on my head and have my parents alive to know their grandchildren."

Speaking later was Sandra J. Wortham, whose brother was shot and killed during a robbery outside the family's home. Her father, a police sergeant, was armed and shot at the perpetrator, but he got away.

She noted the difference between allowing law-abiding citizens from having guns and the effort to keep them away from criminals.

"I don't think that anyone is saying that -- that there should not be a right to bear arms," Wortham said. "I don't think anyone is saying that here. I think what we're saying here is that the Second Amendment doesn't prevent us, you, the lawmaking body here, from looking at ways that we know we can try and reduce the amount of people who shouldn't have guns, from having them, so that the situations like Ms. Hupp's, like ours, like all the families who were here this weekend, we won't see them as much."

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  1. my04301933Comment by my04301933
    February 14, 2013 @ 1:58 pm

    Look, this seems to be a sad situation…what I mean is the gun control committees…VP Biden and his gang of idiots…

    They are really brain stupid…

    It is much simpler for them to “remove private property by force”/..which requires no brain power…

    …than to create a solution that prevents the insane and legally incompetent from owning guns of any nature…

    To do that takes intellectuals and we don’t see our elected possessing anything beyond being brain stupid…so they don’t attempt to address that which is beyond their intellectual capabilities…

    Tell me…just how long have we been plagued with the DRUG problem? Decades and decades and decades.

    VPs like Biden have made and remade useless laws regarding drugs and their trafficking…and we still have the same run-away drug problem…because they are reluctant to go to the source and eradicate it…the Cartel, Central America countries who allow drug trafficking are in essence in a state of war against America.

    So…if they use brain stupid…they will seek to take away our guns…

    And if we allow that…then

    WE ARE THE BRAIN STUPID

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    • jmikes1951Comment by jmikes1951
      February 14, 2013 @ 3:32 pm

      We armed the cartels with “Fast and Furious” in an effort to take away the guns from lawful Americans. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6

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    • bf39Comment by bf39
      February 14, 2013 @ 4:06 pm

      I totally agree with my04301933 and jmikes1951. I read an article earlier today about guns from Fast and Furious being involved with gun violence in Indiana, I think. The guns had made it back from Mexico to the United States. And oboma and holder has not been convicted with any wrong doing concerning the Fast and Furious deal! Thats wrong. If it was a Republican holding office, the news media and all democrats would be screaming to high Heaven to impeach him or her.

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    • mcrankComment by mcrank
      February 14, 2013 @ 5:53 pm

      Mrs. Wortham is easily swayed—she buys into the gun control panel’s tactics because she believes someone is “doing something” about curbing violence. The only thing that’s going to stop violence is for God to pick two more righteous people like He did prior to The Flood and eliminate everyone else.

      Criminals will obtain whatever weaponry they want whenever they want it—and they will use it whenever and wherever they want—I don’t care how many laws, controls, measures, restrictions, or anything else that is put in place—they WILL carry out their crimes.

      All of this craziness that has come up since the Newtown tragedy is nothing more than a bunch of politicizing opportunists pushing their agenda with the help of willing like-minded activists claiming to be concerned about minimizing a problem that exists in the minds of the perpetrators who carry out acts of violence. You cannot out-legislate something that originates in the minds of the people who act upon them.

      There are too many nuts running around terrorizing society because there are too many nutty parents who will not accept responsibility for raising their children—too much government interference in trying to legislate everything—and lack of severe enough consequences to deter criminal activity.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 14, 2013 @ 6:07 pm

      “The only thing that’s going to stop violence is for God to pick two more righteous people like He did prior to The Flood and eliminate everyone else.”

      The only problem with that idea is that God promised he would never do that again, AND there are more than just 2 righteous people alive at this point in time. God’s next dealings would be to remove all the Christians and then destroy the rest of the people.

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    • Mark L.Comment by Mark L.
      February 14, 2013 @ 8:11 pm

      This gun control putsch is just that. Just like what Hitler tried in Munich, an attempt by a small group of radicals to take total control of the government.
      OK first off, you will never keep firearms out of the hands of people who want them for evil purposes. So any kind of registration, background check and licensing is simply senseless unless you want to control political access to firearms. If anything, they will be bought from corrupt police or military, or simply made from scratch in underground weapons shops and sold to the guy with the money.
      Even this “instant” check is useless. Few if any actual criminals are stopped from buying guns, and no one who is out of their heads (insane, psychotic, whatever). That is a very very subjective criteria anyway. I would never want the Government to define it, since anyone who doesn’t agree with the Government in all things is obviously insane, right?
      Lets go back to pre-1934 to where almost everyone in the country owned at least one gun, and murder was rare enough that it was always front page news, and random shootings just did not happen. People bought their handguns at the Piggly-Wiggly, and could mail order a Thompson sub-machine gun or a rifle.
      WHO has the weapons was never a problem, its always been what they do with them, you know the guy who invented the M1 carbine was a felon, right?

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  2. pwpmmpComment by pwpmmp
    February 14, 2013 @ 2:41 pm

    Great testimony, Dr. Hupp. Interesting that they tried to deny her right to testify saying that it had nothing to do with the issue??? I guess when someone makes clear and understandable points it gets them all flummoxed and confused. Washington just can’t get that common sense thing.

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    • bf39Comment by bf39
      February 14, 2013 @ 4:16 pm

      I had read Dr Hupp’s story before. I’m so glad she spoke up. Also, the story I read yesterday about the sister who shot an intruder to keep her sister from being killed. She hadn’t shot the gun in several years. I’m surprised it even fired, but it did and probably saved her life and her sister’s life.

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  3. jjb54Comment by jjb54
    February 14, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

    Again – if this was about Common Sense Gun Laws – than fine — but these laws are not going to stop gangs/robbers and other people wanting guns for illegal purposes from getting them.

    If “they” really think the ‘bad guy’ is going to go through legal channels .. then they are far more stupid than they are already seen as being.

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  4. whitComment by whit
    February 14, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

    “And I would much rather be sitting in jail right now with a felony offense on my head and have my parents alive to know their grandchildren.”…….enough said !

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      February 14, 2013 @ 5:40 pm

      She also made it known that even though she had a firearm, she obeyed the ridiculous law and left it in the car. As a result of her abiding by the law, she lost both her parents, and she has to live with that decision every day. Stupid, ridiculous laws that are not protecting our law-abiding citizens should be repealed or ignored.

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  5. geoinsdComment by geoinsd
    February 14, 2013 @ 3:05 pm

    Dr. Hupp expressed her points beautifully and she is spot on on what the 2nd Amendment is really about. She beautifully challenged the distractions the politicians keep trying to throw out. Wonderful testimony. We should have her as a senator or other high office.

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    • ksr1Comment by ksr1
      February 14, 2013 @ 3:36 pm

      @geoinsd,

      I can certainly agree….Dr. Hupp along with Dr. Carstons (the one who dressed down the POTUS) would be a good start for a new governing body in DC to represent the GOP. There is hope!

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  6. rolly0412Comment by rolly0412
    February 14, 2013 @ 3:09 pm

    Talking of drugs… a lot of people are also getting killed with medical prescription drugs.

    I propose registration of every gun, no exception. Only law abiding citizens will be allowed to own guns. No restrictions on type of guns for personal and home defense that can be owned, within reason – a fully automatic weapon, a grenade launcher or portable missile launcher is certainly not a personal or home defense weapon. Training for safety and proper handling of guns will be mandatory, no exceptions.

    Criminals who committed violent felonies and individuals with mental issues will not be allowed to own guns. Stiff penalties for illegally obtained guns – 25 years for each gun, no parole.

    Also, 25 years for each instance of crime committed with a gun, no parole. So for example, commit 2 crimes with a gun, get a 50-year sentence, no parole – practically a lifetime.

    I think it will be an effective deterrent against using a gun to commit crimes.

    It’s not perfect. There’s no way to stop a mentally deranged individual from stealing guns and go on a rampage. It can be prevented by educating people on how to recognize or be aware of mental issues of distressed individuals. This is probably where the media can help a lot – be an agent of knowledge instead of reporting, sensationalizing depressing news. Understanding and helping mentally stressed individuals instead of bullying or abusing them will go a long way towards preventing them from committing violent crimes. Also, the mandatory training to properly secure weapons will also help a lot.

    Just my two cents worth…

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      February 14, 2013 @ 3:51 pm

      DHS has describer the AR-15 as the perfect defenseless weapon. That must be why the politicians don’t want us to have. If we don’t need them to protect us with their ludicrous laws. well. then we might not need them for other things.

      That being said. Gun control is illegal! Not just the Constitution’s guarantee of right to bear arms. In 1902 they passed a law that made it illegal to legislate gun control laws.
      Dick Act of 1902 – Gun Control FORBIDDEN!
      Are you aware of this law?

      DICK ACT of 1902 – CAN’T BE REPEALED (GUN CONTROL FORBIDDEN) – Protection Against Tyrannical Government.
      It would appear that the administration is counting on the fact that the American Citizens don’t know this, their rights and the constitution. Don’t prove them right.
      The Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws.
      It also divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities. ** SPREAD THIS TO EVERYONE ** The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army.
      The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
      The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
      The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.
      The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the laws of the Union ; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion). These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard.

      I urge everyone to email this to their elected officials at all levels of government! Don’t allow them to bully or intimidate you. That is what neo-liberals do.

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    • usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
      February 14, 2013 @ 7:49 pm

      rolly0412 says:I propose registration of every gun, no exception. Only law abiding citizens will be allowed to own guns. No restrictions on type of guns for personal and home defense that can be owned, within reason – a fully automatic weapon, a grenade launcher or portable missile launcher is certainly not a personal or home defense weapon. Training for safety and proper handling of guns will be mandatory, no exceptions.
      I normally try to refrain from insulting anyone here, “Training for safety and proper operation of guns, etc”
      Please, OH learned one, tell me how this will reduce or even eliminate gun violence. It won’t and it isn’t intended to. I don’t advocate people who have no experience not getting the training. Do you have to have driver ed to buy or own a car? No… Like ALL who favor gun registration, you think that it will stop mass shootings, and that the criminals will give up their guns. How stringent will your “law abiding requirements” be? Fully automatic weapons are strictly regulated, but not illegal to own- difficult yes…. Grenade launchers, rocket launchers are usually stolen military items, not worthy of mention here.. With your solutions, you have made sure that government has the tools to confiscate the weapons from “law abiding gun owners” and haven’t done a DAMNED thing to get them out of the hands of the fruitloops and criminals. But in your state of mind, you have done something, makes no difference whether it works AS INTENDED or not. This the same mindset that allows a person to believe that he can pickup a fresh dog**** by the clean end. Sorry to have offended- not really
      The Dick Act- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903 and http://www.standupfightback.us/dick-act-of-1902getting a copy of this is impossible, so beware of what you accept as fact….. The Old Sarge

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    • steve001968Comment by steve001968
      February 16, 2013 @ 9:57 pm

      2 cents is about all it’s worth.

      I’m not registering anything. registration is nothing but a prelude to confiscation. Try it and be ready for massive non-compliance and likely violent resistance by millions of people.

      As far as “mental issues” who decides what is a “mental issue”? Do 911 1st responders treated for PTSD have “mental issues”? How about the thousands of soldiers treated for PTSD? How about the 10′s of millions of people who receive mental health counseling and have a diagnosis of “mental illness” (without which insurance will not under any circumstances pay for their services)? How about the police officer who shoots someone in the line of duty and suffers depression? Why on earth is somneone going to seek treatment for anything if they know the result is that they will lose a constitutional right? Congratulations your policy just drove millions of people out seeking treatment. Yeah, that’s going to help. We want them to get treatment and to encourage them to do so, not drive people who want counseling unerground. The military already does this to no small degree. The escalating number of military suicides is the result. Also, you may not know it, but here in the US there’s a little thing we call due process of law required to deny a constitutional right.

      Automatic weapons – Given that they are used by many police deptartments and the FBI, who presumably are using them to defend life as opposed to offensively murder people, why are they not suitable for defense? Because YOU say so?

      Training – Who is going to be doing the training? Maybe the police? In the recent Empire state building shooting the NYPD shot three times as many innocent bystanders as perpetrators. If you count those hit by flying debris from the police shooting rampage they wounded 7 times as many people as perpetrators. Any incidents of concealed carrying civiliians screwing the pooch anywhere near this bad?

      Your 25 years for each gun crime sounds like a good idea until one considers the best way to avoid getting convicted of a gun crime is in many cases not to leave witnesses and since in many cases the penalty for murder is less than your 25 years for a gun crime, it doesn’t take long to figure out what the unintended consequences of this are going to be.

      In short, you haven’t thought any of this out very well.

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  7. Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
    February 14, 2013 @ 3:48 pm

    I have seen the video of Hupp’s testimony. The name is different but perhaps she had married. You can find the YouTube footage here….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTO-y-B2YM. At one point in the filming (if I remember correctly) you will see Senator Schumer “pretending” to be listening.

    Interesting that the original “assault” rifle ban was a part of the Brady Bill which was ludicrous on it’s face since James Brady was shot with the same weapon as President Reagan, a 22 caliber PISTOL.

    Why, when there is a particular notorious incident, (Sandy Hook) the gun grabbers come out of the woodwork with all their usual arguments which do not apply. Restricting responsible citizens would NOT have stopped Lanza who was willing to kill his own mother to STEAL the guns he used in the school shooting and the long gun was NOT taken into the school, it was found in the shooter’s vehicle!

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    • my04301933Comment by my04301933
      February 14, 2013 @ 4:13 pm

      We spend a lot of time in AMERICA allowing, and having to listen to brain deads…politicians who just have to get on the bandwagon and get free press, to make believe that they really understand the problem and the solution…

      Then, they GRAB the opportunity to COMPLETELY DISARM ALL CITIZENS…not because the want to resolve the problem we have with the murderous insane, but to be able to hold the final resource of POWER OVER US ALL…

      And that power is our 2nd Amendment, and our guns. America is great because we Americans can by law, the 2nd Amendment, have the weaponry needed to help ward off and defend ourselves from an OVERBEARING DICTATOR and his criminal low lifes…Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, and the brain stupid likes of our Attorney General.

      Just think about it…knowing just how many guns Americans own, a brain stupid elected idiot would be just that…an Idiot…

      …to attempt to over take us all by force…it would be their worse nightmare.

      Would thy win?…depends what you call “win”. There are people in “them-thar” mountains and woods who would AT A HEART5 BEAT

      merica just allowing ***

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    • my04301933Comment by my04301933
      February 14, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

      We spend a lot of time in AMERICA allowing, and having to listen to brain deads…politicians who just have to get on the bandwagon and get free press, to make believe that they really understand the problem and the solution…

      Then, they GRAB the opportunity to COMPLETELY DISARM ALL CITIZENS…not because the want to resolve the problem we have with the murderous insane, but to be able to hold the final resource of POWER OVER US ALL…

      And that power is our 2nd Amendment, and our guns. America is great because we Americans can by law, the 2nd Amendment, have the weaponry needed to help ward off and defend ourselves from an OVERBEARING DICTATOR and his criminal low lifes…Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, and the brain stupid likes of our Attorney General.

      Just think about it…knowing just how many guns Americans own, a brain stupid elected idiot would be just that…an Idiot…

      …to attempt to over take us all by force…it would be their worse nightmare.

      Would they win?…depends what you call “win”.

      There are people in the mountains and woods out west who would AT A HEART5 BEAT do what they deem the right thing. I hope not, but it appears to be a fact you can lay money on…and win.

      I get the idea the “committees want us to get salty and make a move”..so they can call martial law.

      Why are they pushing us?

      They know there is a breaking point where some of us will say…”that is enough!”…and these brain stupids are making a huge mistake…

      …fools rush forth where angels fear to tread!

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    • steve001968Comment by steve001968
      February 16, 2013 @ 10:13 pm

      The long gun was taken into the school according to later news accounts but the usualy sloppy reporting that is common from today’s inept media isn’t really the issue. Gun control advocates focus on “assault weapons” which, according to Diane Feinstein’s own numbers are used in about .6% of homicides because they realize handguns have proliferated to the point that national regulation of them is no longer politically feasible. They hope that is not the case with “assault weapons” but given the lack of enthusiasm of many top congressional democrats for an “assault weapons” ban, and the way they have been flying off store shelves ever since Obama began babbling about a ban, they may well be wrong.

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  8. odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
    February 14, 2013 @ 4:33 pm

    To anti-gun politicians, I say this: You hate guns? That is your right, and I won’t dispute it. You hate guns? Fine, don’t own one…that is your right. But your hatred of guns does not give you the right to tell other law-abiding citizens they can’t have the right to own one. Yet you continue to try disarming citizens. Tell the young college student your hatred of guns is more important than her not getting assaulted and raped. Tell parents your hatred of guns is more important than the safety of their children from crime. Tell the business owner your hatred of guns is more important than their livelihood and customer safety. Tell the woman in an abusive relationship your hatred of guns is more important than her protection against the spouse or boyfriend. You tell all these people, and more, that your hatred of guns is more important than their safety in this world. While you enjoy taxpayer-provided armed guards and the right to carry a gun yourself. Sadly, I bet you’ll be able to do so without any guilt, hesitation, or feeling of hypocrisy.

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  9. CynComment by Cyn
    February 14, 2013 @ 4:36 pm

    A Government that Wants Absolute Power over a Country does NOT Care if Guns are in the Hands of Criminals. The Greatest Threat against a Tyrannical and Power Hungry Government – is Guns in the Hands of Law-Abiding Citizens.

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  11. spyderdaltonComment by spyderdalton
    February 14, 2013 @ 5:22 pm

    I’m sure the morons out there can’t see how Obama surrounds himself with victims rather than the people who’s lives were saved because they had a gun.. He uses people that didn’t have a gun when they needed one to advance his sick agenda of making people believe they are better off a victim than a victor!

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    • steve001968Comment by steve001968
      February 16, 2013 @ 10:19 pm

      What Obama surrounds himself and his family with is heavily armed secret service agents, armed with everything from sub machine guns to the best sniper rifles available. Typical gun control pushing hypocrite.

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  12. Cape ConservativeComment by Cape Conservative
    February 14, 2013 @ 6:50 pm

    IF – and that is a gigantic IF – the laws already on the books were enforced instead of constantly releasing criminals back into society, we wouldn’t be dealing with so much violence!

    Instead of restricting legal gun ownership, the ‘special committee’ should be strengthening our laws, making any crime committed with a weapon, whether gun or sword or kitchen knife, a MANDATORY 5-year sentence for the first offense, and triple that if when they are released, they try it again! That would clean up the streets quite quickly – and most importantly, it would let the wannabe criminals be aware of what they will face if they choose to follow that path!

    Today the newspaper in Bangor, Maine has FOIA’s for the name and address of every registered concealed carry permit holders! I guess they figured they needed their ’15 minutes of fame’ – surely after the brouhaha in NY, anyone with half a brain would realize that is not the correct thing to do! I believe the newspaper in NY should be sued by every single person who was listed on their website!

    As others have stated, it seems that we are being deliberately pushed to the limit just so the government can use those billions of bullets they’ve been stockpiling…they WANT us to rise up! What they truly can’t get a handle on is the fact that legal gunowners are probably the most law-abiding citizens of the country and we are not going to give them that pleasure! They are very aware of the fact that what they want to do is very much against the law of our country! Remember, a Republic can survive ONLY with a moral people!

    Congressional Switchboard 202.224.3121
    White House Comment LIne 202.456.1111

    Let your beliefs be known!

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    • rolly0412Comment by rolly0412
      February 15, 2013 @ 1:56 am

      From Cape Conservative: “Instead of restricting legal gun ownership, the ‘special committee’ should be strengthening our laws, making any crime committed with a weapon, whether gun or sword or kitchen knife, a MANDATORY 5-year sentence for the first offense, and triple that if when they are released, they try it again! That would clean up the streets quite quickly – and most importantly, it would let the wannabe criminals be aware of what they will face if they choose to follow that path!”

      That’s somewhat what I was trying to put across a bit earlier… with the low rating my post is receiving, I can only conclude that the point I’m trying to make has been missed.

      In my thinking, only law abiding citizen can have licensed gun(s) which differentiate them from criminals. Criminals will never be allowed to own even the lowest caliber gun, heck, even a BB gun.

      It’s pretty much the same as applying for a license to drive a car. If you drive a car without a license, you’re doing something that is illegal. If you commit DUI repeatedly, for example, your car license will be revoked. We can do the same with guns – use it irresponsibly and your license to own guns will be revoked.

      There’s so much resistance with the concept of licensing guns and I think I know the reason… the fear that the government will know who own guns which makes it easy for the government to confiscate. For that I have no answer. I can only say that the government (and the bleeding heart liberals as well) should step back and reaffirm its support for the 2nd Amendment and trust its law abiding citizens.

      Us law abiding citizens and the government should work together in putting the pressure on criminals, instead of the government putting the pressure on law abiding citizens by banning guns and leaving the criminals do as they wish.

      One way of putting pressure on criminals would be an automatic mandatory 25-year sentence with no chance of parole for each gun in their possession. Committing multiple crimes with a gun would incur multiple 25-year sentences. That, in my opinion, would be an effective deterrent for criminals to even consider obtaining gun(s). Other people, no doubt, will be able to think of other creative ways to put additional pressure on criminals.

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    • agent007Comment by agent007
      February 15, 2013 @ 7:35 am

      I guess what we here seem to agree on is that the problem is NOT with the law abiding righteous people that have guns.
      And yet we are wondering WHY would the Obama circus try to take our gun carrying rights away from us?
      It’s simple folks, we are NOT righteous people in their eyes, we are the ENEMY. We don’t sign on to their liberal, socialist, p/c ideas, so we must NOT be righteous people in their eyes, but dangerous gun clinging nuts!
      There is no more tolerance between Democrats and Republicans and Independents. There is only “my way or the highway”, and all the tolerance that is left is coming from our side, and not the opposition!
      I’ve never possessed a fire arm in my life, but am considering getting one now, while I hopefully still can acquire ammo to go with it!
      I want to be ready to defend myself, against the threat of a totalitarian state especially!

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  13. juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
    February 14, 2013 @ 6:53 pm

    In 1938, Germany under Hitler first determined what citizens owned guns, then had his private army of SS Troopers confiscate and established gun control in Germany by eliminating all privately owned guns. From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million gypsies who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. Today, if you read the front page of the Yahoo news you saw Obamas SS Troopers, they are the Homeland Security buying up ammunition. The question every American needs to ask is why? Who is that ammunition going to be used on? While he wants to take innocent Americans guns away fron them trashing the 2nd Amendment, he is building his own private army. If you have not been concerned in the past, it is time to be concerned now. If you have not educated yourself about this president in office it is time you do it now. If Obama can get away with Benghazi, and not anwer for the four dead Americans, what else can he get away with?

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    • xjandinComment by xjandin
      February 14, 2013 @ 7:18 pm

      Exactly right. Also of great concern is the type of ammunition purchased – hollow point. Hollow point ammunition is strictly prohibited in war. Armies are allowed only ball/full metal jacket ammunition. Hollow point is also not generally used for practice as it is expensive. It is used for hunting and personal defense. If the ammunition were purchased for range practice, it should NOT be hollow point, which bring us back to your point – What are they preparing for?

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  14. smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaamaComment by smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaama
    February 14, 2013 @ 7:23 pm

    Gun control should not even be up for debate because, for one, every person in the United States knows that there are guns and criminals that use them. Two, teachers, school faculty and parents know this and should have therefore been packing to protect themselves. Those who have willingly chosen to live with thoughts that because they do not want to be armed to protect theirselves in the world they are aware of living in and expecting that everbody who knows better is going to follow right along with them, they let themselves be targets. They also posted signs and announced that they were unprotected so they have no one to blame but themselves. It’s time for the entire nation to again be packing. I wonder what Chicago, California and the Border would be like if the gangs had that to look forward to. “Oh, god! Every person is armed! We could be killed! If one doesn’t get us, another could! They could come after us!”

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  15. Cape ConservativeComment by Cape Conservative
    February 14, 2013 @ 9:52 pm

    You might want to check out the January 8, 2013 letter in the Newtown Bee by Brendan Duffy, a Sandy Hook resident. He, too, is disgusted with the opportunists who are not about to let this ‘crisis go to waste’ – using the violent deaths of innocent children to further their cause.

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  17. bowler1hatComment by bowler1hat
    February 15, 2013 @ 12:32 pm

    The problem is that some believe in utopia where everything is fine all the time and no one harms anyone. That is good concept, but it neglects the bad guys who will still have guns after everyone else obeys outrageous and illegal gun bans. Just how many armed intruders can a person take out by pointing their fingers at them? In short, it would be a “shootout in the K O Corral”!

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  18. vevaComment by veva
    February 15, 2013 @ 6:38 pm

    “There are too many nuts running around terrorizing society because there are too many nutty parents who will not accept responsibility for raising their children—…”

    Go to: http://www.DeWeeseReport.com and read why so many ‘children’ are killing/attacking others. There is a list of over 50 events where some or many died at the hands of a student/youth on mind altering drugs, prescribed by professionals. Over the years the number keeps increasing. There are 7 Million + on these drugs. Read: “A Compromised Genration” by Beth Lambert to learn ‘why’ these drugs are prescribed. Shocking. We are NOT addressing the correct issue with ‘gun control’. The issue is WHY does anyone decide that a youngster needs powerful, psychotropic drugs. What has gone wrong in out culture that so many babies are born with a ‘mental problem’, if that is so? And are drugs the ONLY way to remedy the situation???

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    • Cape ConservativeComment by Cape Conservative
      February 15, 2013 @ 7:29 pm

      Totally agree…and it isn’t just the kids who are being drugged unnecessarily. I can’t help but wonder why, after reading/hearing all the negative side effects, anyone wants to go on drugs because of an ache or pain that comes with being alive and growing older. How on earth did our parents/grandparents ever make it without a fistful of pills to swallow every day? Thankfully a multi-vitamin is the only pill taken in this household.

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