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Missouri bill demands parents report gun ownership to public schools

By GOPUSA Staff

JEFFERSON CITY - Any parent who owns a firearm would be required to notify their child's school in writing under legislation proposed in the Missouri Senate.

The bill, introduced by University City Democratic Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, would make it a crime to fail to report gun ownership to a school. It would also criminalize failure to prevent a child from illegally possessing a firearm and the negligent storage of a firearm.

"Since August of last year, there have been more than a dozen incidents involving teenagers and guns in just (my) senate district alone," Chappelle-Nadal said. "In most cases, the guns have been stolen from an unsecured place in teh home and then used in robberies, car-jackings and even murder."

She said she feels like the debate over gun control has largely ignored the plague of gun violence in the urban core. That's especially true in Missouri, she said, where the legislature is dominated by rural and suburban Republicans.

"I want my rural colleagues to know that my constituents are just as important as their constituents," she said. "I don't want to be ignored, and I certainly don't want my district to be ignored."

This bill has nothing to do with gun control, Chappelle-Nadal said. It's about trying to force parents to be responsible gun owners.

"Responsible gun owners have nothing to fear from my legislation, and nobody... is talking about taking anyone's guns away," she said.

However, she recognizes that the chances her legislation becomes law are "probably zero," even though she is willing to drop the provision mandating reporting gun ownership to local schools.

Republican state Sen. Brian Nieves, a Washington Republican, agrees with her assessment of the bill's chances.

"This bill is dead on arrival," he said. "This bill will not become law in the state of Missouri. It's just not going to happen."

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  1. gopluvaComment by gopluva
    January 25, 2013 @ 9:07 am

    What good would it do to report gun ownership to schools. Are the schools then authorized to check lockers of these students with no other reason than their parents own guns? What is the purpose?I think its shameful that everyone is using these tragedies to further their own agendas with no care for the people who have been killed or harmed.

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    • fosterdlComment by fosterdl
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:01 am

      What good is it??? It’s just another way to get gun registration/confiscation. These laws need to be fought and soon!

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    • freodomComment by freodom
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:05 am

      The schools will frisk, every morning, all the kids whos parents reported owning a gun.

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    • zamba6Comment by zamba6
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:55 am

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4&feature=related

      You think that’s ****** just watch this. They are already using crisis like hurricane katrina to practice going door to door. They will not give up.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 25, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

      “What good would it do to report gun ownership to schools.”

      Since schools are under the direction of the FEDERAL Dept. of Education, this is a backdoor way of creating a database of private ownership of firearms. The list can then be submitted to the federal government. It’s called GUN REGISTRATION.

      Schools already have the authority to search students’ lockers at any time, but those who parents own firearms will be subjected to harassment and intimidation.

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    • mysticComment by mystic
      January 25, 2013 @ 12:17 pm

      It’s impossible to legislate ‘good behavior’. Meaning all the laws in the world will not stop ‘evil’. The can sit right down and right out a million ‘good’ laws to try and prevent ‘bad’ from happening…and guess what…those little pieces of paper ain’t gonna stop no one from doing anything…good or bad.

      When oh when is this country going to understand that laws are for the clean up after the fact…not the prevention of? How about a bill that allows for private carry while on school campus to ensure safety of our children? Too controversial I suppose for everyone to swallow at once?

      Just apply Occams Razor to the situation…that’ll do it.

      ~M

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    • bwtankerComment by bwtanker
      January 25, 2013 @ 2:52 pm

      i see no reason to this law except to get a list of legal gun owners,which will make them registered with the fed.because the parents have guns is not a good reason to report it to the school their children go to

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    • commonsensegrandmaComment by commonsensegrandma
      January 25, 2013 @ 4:04 pm

      Since when do schools get to be a reporting agency? Should we also have parents report to schools that they have knives, hammers, and baseball bats at home. All these have been used to kill children as well?

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    • my04301933Comment by my04301933
      January 25, 2013 @ 4:25 pm

      “Responsible gun owners have nothing to fear from my legislation, and nobody… is talking about taking anyone’s guns away,” she said.

      Now the school officials will inform teachers that “Johnnie has parents who own guns…so watch that kid closely”…

      Where the hell is she going with this???…to the back door, the one that leads to gun registration to the Federal government….

      What a dill-dok bill…panic, cluttered thinking…power at work…

      It does nothing to defend against violence…it does everything to get control of a population by disarmament. She just has to separate the people in this country…her comments about the country voters verses those in her district…now they are against each other…

      This country better get its act together and it won’t if we continue to hire misfits, like her,and like a President who can’t lead, just take

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      January 25, 2013 @ 5:33 pm

      Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal has more problems in “her district,” than guns. The biggest problem may just be her. I suggest she looks at herself first.

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    • bf39Comment by bf39
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:44 pm

      It is totally stupid to report gun ownership to a school. I’m like the other who posted comments, what will the school do? Like the Newspaper who reported gun ownership, print flyers with their names on it and send to the other parents. If we don’t watch out obama will have every gun in America stockpiled for his own. Don’t know what, but he will come up with something.

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    • conserveusa38Comment by conserveusa38
      January 26, 2013 @ 7:35 pm

      Just another government interference. Have they forgotten that they work for us? Nothing is values anymore. The constitution seems to be just a piece of paper to these liberals…. They break the laws themselves without any consequences… Where will it end? There has been way too much overstepping for a long time now.. The monitor email, phones… How else will thy interfere?

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  3. jrm57Comment by jrm57
    January 25, 2013 @ 9:35 am

    Do not obey any laws that you do not agree with AND that encroach on our constitutional rights. This means gun control laws and ObamaCare also which is as illegal as Obama is.

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    • patriotgamesComment by patriotgames
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:05 am

      And get informed about the power you hold as a juror!

      Jury Nullification makes YOU the most powerful judge in the country! Higher than the U.S. Supreme Court

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    • zamba6Comment by zamba6
      January 25, 2013 @ 11:01 am

      I agree but I think in the end it will be more difficult than you think. I hope everybody will stand for their convictions and those that are not now will hopefully realize how wrong they have been. They have already started training and the u.n. has been talking about disarming America since the 60s.

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    • fubar22Comment by fubar22
      January 25, 2013 @ 8:53 pm

      How about the schools getting back to educating children and not be an arm of the progressive leftist trying for gun registration.

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  4. Jota_Comment by Jota_
    January 25, 2013 @ 9:43 am

    “I want my rural colleagues to know that my constituents are just as important as their constituents,” she said. “I don’t want to be ignored, and I certainly don’t want my district to be ignored.”

    This bill has nothing to do with gun control, Chappelle-Nadal said. It’s about trying to force parents to be responsible gun owners.”

    This says it all “I want” self promotion, “just as important” feelings, “force” having the power to tell you what they want so they can feel important.

    A recall needs to be immediately started to remove this person from any office she now occupys. She is using the power of the state to destroy it. She is anti-Republic

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  5. patriotgamesComment by patriotgames
    January 25, 2013 @ 9:43 am

    “She said she feels like the debate over gun control has largely ignored the plague of gun violence in the urban core. That’s especially true in Missouri, she said, where the legislature is dominated by rural and suburban Republicans.”

    WOW, big surprise! The plague of gun violence is in the urban LIBERALLY CONTROLLED core…..Just as it always is.

    Yet liberals continue to re-elect incompetents to “lead” them.

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      January 25, 2013 @ 9:59 am

      I could not have said it better!

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    • twocoltsComment by twocolts
      January 25, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

      Another Democratic whack-job, with yet another way to accommodate criminals, while stomping on the rights of the law-abiding. Fruitcakes like her give new meaning to stupid.

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  6. vosjeComment by vosje
    January 25, 2013 @ 9:58 am

    There is a solution to this problem. It doesn’t involve legislation:
    “There exists…an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness; between duty and advantage…the…smiles of heavan can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”-George Washingon, First Inaugural Address, 1789
    Less Virtue = Less Tranquility
    Greater Virtue = Greater Tranquility

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 25, 2013 @ 1:29 pm

      Yes, just like the Bible tells us to do.
      I Tim 2:1-2 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and ALL who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.

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  7. dfrieze2001Comment by dfrieze2001
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:00 am

    It’s a violation of the right to Privacy.

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    • zamba6Comment by zamba6
      January 25, 2013 @ 11:06 am

      Do you think the u.n. cares about your right to privacy or property.

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4&feature=related

      They are already using crisis like hurricane katrina to practice going door to door.

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    • kid721952Comment by kid721952
      January 25, 2013 @ 11:09 am

      Just ANOTHER WAY to track guns by the government,if I had a child in the school I WOULD NOT REPORT MY GUN,that is my business not their’s,that gun is for my protection and my childs and if you report that you have the gun IT WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU EVENTUALLY by the government,this has nothing to do with the schools just like doctors being TOLD to ask about any guns in your home this is obamas way of finding the guns and when the time comes obama will be sending troops to your home to confiscate your weapons IF he knows where they are “DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS OR REPORT TO ANYBODY THAT YOU HAVE THEM”.What would be the reasoning for reporting that you have a gun to the school? Are they going to call you if something happens OR BLAME YOU IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 25, 2013 @ 1:34 pm

      Yes and it reminds me of China when communism took over. The children were told to tell the officials what their parents said and what they thought of communism. When the communist government found out that the parents were against them they were shot right in front of their children. Then the children were endoctrinated into the communistic way of thinking. It worked then and it will work here unless we tell our children to keep their mouths shut about what happens in their homes. (Unless they are being beaten or molested)

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  8. tomtComment by tomt
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:06 am

    I think we need get after the Flu Violence. My gun is not .0001% as violent as the coughing spells with this killer flu. This flu is responsible for killing young kids and old codgers like me.
    Come on Chapel-Nadal save me from this violent bug.
    The kids can report their sick viremic grandparents to the schools so they can be forced to go to mandatory End of Life Counciling.
    Get that Bill against Flu Violence on the floor and do some good and leave the guns alone..

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  9. prairelivingComment by praireliving
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:20 am

    My sister teaches in a public high school in a large Midwest city. She has told me more than once that her students have told her they can easily get a gun for her if she wanted one. They aren’t stealing them from their parents gun cabinets or the bedside table. They are getting them on the streets and there is nothing in this law that will fix that.

    You want to limit shootings and killings with guns make the punishment for hurting or killing someone (not in self-defense) really strong and maybe some of the criminals will think twice.

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  10. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:25 am

    Could we be victums of Biological Warfare with Flu as the tool?

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  11. arclightComment by arclight
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:25 am

    Wrong direction. This is stupid on its surface and underneath. Why should parents brand their kids for special attention (i.e., surveillance) when we can’t even get violent illegal aliens out of the country? Nope. This is a nutty concept. It should be dumped along with a couple dozen other Left Wing Nut schemes.

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  12. BobinmsComment by Bobinms
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:26 am

    Another example of mushy liberal thinking. What’s the objective? What will it accomplish? What about gun owners that have no children? It seems she is not interested in protecting the kids. In her own words she just doesn’t want to be ignored. My undertaker friend had a favorite expression regarding people like Sen. Maria. He’d say “you could give her an enema and bury her in a match box.”

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  14. odayterrenceComment by odayterrence
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:35 am

    Wow! What absolute Gall! Sounds like she not only dislikes the 2nd Amendment, but quite a few of the others too. Is she going to support warrentless searches of lockers and homes because someone is a gun owner? Will she force people to reveal their possessions? Maybe she can ask parents and children to spy on other parents and children regarding guns. The Senator says this isn’t about gun control. She has a point…it is about Government Control of our lives. Plus the feeding of her Ego, being a liberal in a conservative state. I think she needs to go back and read the Constitution she is so ready to spit upon. The Senator also insults the citizens by considering them potential criminals just because they choose to exercise their rights.

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    • zamba6Comment by zamba6
      January 25, 2013 @ 10:53 am

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4&feature=related

      You think that’s ****** just watch this. They are already using crisis like hurricane katrina to practice going door to door.

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  15. pebearComment by pebear
    January 25, 2013 @ 10:59 am

    It just comes down to this: The Liberals/Democrats think they can legislate all the ills of life away so everyone will live in a safe and loving society. The end run is to take all the guns away without compensation or due process. There will be more cockamamie bills submitted and laws passed. American’s need to know when they vote for a$$clowns like the Democrats this is the type of legislation and laws they get. All the Democrats know how to do is 1. Spend huge sums of money on stuff that is not needed (and not on stuff that is needed) and 2. Take rights away from everyone to ensure their continued leadership. (I guess we will need them to legalize weed because we all will need to get high just to forget what hell the Democrats have us all living in)

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  16. whodunitComment by whodunit
    January 25, 2013 @ 11:19 am

    Oh, yeah, that’s who we want keeping track of gun owner information — the public schools. Especially when they’re doing such a great job with our children. Oh, and let’s not forget their NEA union affiliation.

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  17. all4oneComment by all4one
    January 25, 2013 @ 11:22 am

    I don’t believe in reporting what you have, but I am for responsible gun ownership. I believe guns should be secured to prevent accidents from happening…no access, no firearms in the wrong hands.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      January 25, 2013 @ 1:46 pm

      I still don’t understand how a gun will help you protect yourself if it is locked up and no ammunition in it while your home is being broken into and someone has a gun on you and you can’t get to your own gun? Before all the stupid laws about this came out we had rifles and handguns in our home and not locked up but in a gun case. Our children were taught the respect for life and how to use a gun and clean it. They were never touched until we went practicing or hunting. Children today are not taught how life is so valuable and to respect it from the teaching of the Word of God. When we put God first in our lives this Nation will not need all the goofy laws that have been forced on us and have taken away so much freedom.
      Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old (mature), he will not depart from it.
      Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them … he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
      NOTE: Jesus did not tell His disciples to register their swords with the government.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 25, 2013 @ 2:09 pm

      “Before all the stupid laws about this came out we had rifles and handguns in our home and not locked up but in a gun case.”

      Allen, that makes too much sense, and liberals are void of any common sense. They operate by emotion, knee-jerk reactions, and irrational thinking. In other words, liberalism is a mental disorder.

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  18. wvbhollowComment by wvbhollow
    January 25, 2013 @ 11:32 am

    it’s unconstitutional, will not pass muster. Just ignore that idiotic law, the sheriff will not enforce

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  19. kevin30144Comment by kevin30144
    January 25, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

    So now the school district becomes an arm of law enforcement? They can’t even teach our children properly, so let’s give them something else to do. What is the intended outcome? If Mom or Dad owns a gun then little Johnny has to go through the metal detector every morning? So a law abiding child(citizen) is now subjected to illegal search and seizure as if his parents gun ownership is illegal. This is a typical idiotic liberal solution. Perhaps we should examine what is causing our society to become more violent in the first place. Perhaps when a leader like Mitt Romney says we need to understand the value of the Traditional family we should not allow the idiot fringe to attack him as if he has said something terrible. I do not know what Country I live in any longer. I do not recognize it and I am only 47.

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  20. usafoldsargeComment by usafoldsarge
    January 25, 2013 @ 12:13 pm

    I believe that the only things that an intelligent Democrat can do is: eat, defecate, drink, urinate, sleep, awaken and have sex. Ah HELL that ain’t intelligence- that is instinct! are idiots born or created ???????? http://www.senate.mo.gov/13info/members/mem14.htm see who she is……….

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  21. twspears144Comment by twspears144
    January 25, 2013 @ 12:16 pm

    Missouri State Senator Maria Chappelle- Nadal is another elected official who walks lock step to the will of Obamas socialist agenda. Why is it always that the will of the people that gets left out of the process of running this nation. Our nation has become a nation to the politician by the politician for the politician. When are the people going to rise up and demand that politicians stop using their will over the peoples will. It is true that we elect some of theses self serving idiots all across this nation. Are these idiots like Obama elected because of needed skills and talents? Look at Obamas approval record it is below 40% but his like ability is 60% which proves that Obama is a personality first effective President second. I believe that our nation has become a victum by electing super sales persons that our more suited for the fantasy world like Hollywood or a crooked car lot salesman than a responsibile elected official. We vote they lie and a divided nation is left in their path of ignorence. Senator Chappelle- Nadal is a perfect example of a politician who is hell bent on bankrupting our nation for a socialist ideal that will never work in a free nation. People kill people and we must address the out of control violence and immorality in this nation before the killing will be reduced. I believe that having more parent/school meetings on violence and bulling would be more beneficial to reduce the murders of our children. Trenton

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  22. derekComment by derek
    January 25, 2013 @ 12:55 pm

    You want to know What ? Guns in MY home ? Really ? None of your
    G.D. business. How about teaching our kids how to think for themselves and how to be safe around dangerous people; Not tools.

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  23. FreeDameComment by FreeDame
    January 25, 2013 @ 2:09 pm

    Missouri State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal represents “portions of St. Louis,” which are about 90% minority, and awash with gang violence and welfare moms. Need I say more?

    As a resident of Missouri, I’d be willing to sell all of St. Louis to Illinois for about $1.

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  24. highsiderComment by highsider
    January 25, 2013 @ 2:09 pm

    “I want my rural colleagues to know that my constituents are just as important as their constituents,” she said. “I don’t want to be ignored, and I certainly don’t want my district to be ignored.”

    Umm, anybody catch what that broad said. I wasn’t listening

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  25. tps12Comment by tps12
    January 25, 2013 @ 3:34 pm

    Will they be requiring students and teachers to notify them if they are HIV positive or have any other mental health or communicable diseases? Aren’t these health issues we should know about for our protection?

    Come on Maria don’t you care about these things?

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