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Massachusetts can't account for over 19K welfare recipients

By Boston Herald

Boston Herald - Red-faced state officials admitted last night they are trying to find as many as 19,000 missing welfare recipients -- after the controversial taxpayer-funded voter registration pitches the state mailed to their addresses last summer were sent back marked "Return to sender, address unknown."

The Department of Transitional Assistance contacted 477,000 welfare recipients who were on their books from June 1, 2011, to May 31, 2012, after settling a voter-rights lawsuit brought by Democratic-leaning activist groups that demanded an aggressive voter information effort by the state. That $274,000 push by DTA resulted in 31,000 new voter registrations -- but revealed an alarming number of welfare recipients whose residency in Massachusetts can't be confirmed.

"DTA is in the process of contacting those clients for which a forwarding address was prov­ided to verify their addresses, as a change of address might impact their eligibility," a statement from the agency said.

DTA critics expressed astonishment at the agency's faulty address records -- which were only uncovered by accident -- saying it's further evidence that the electronic benefits system sorely needs reform.

"Wow," said state Rep. Shaunna O'Connell, R-Taunton, upon hearing of the number of returned mailings.

"The fact that 19,000 of these came back undeliverable tells me DTA has no idea where these people live, obviously, and is not doing the background checks they should be doing," O'Connell said.

"It goes to show this program is just fraught with fraud and abuse and needs a complete overhaul," said O'Connell, who has made her name on Beacon Hill as a leading legislator for welfare reform.

It was not clear last night how many of the missing clients have moved out of state or are otherwise no longer eligible to receive Massachusetts benefits.

DTA spokesman Alec Loftus said he did not know how many clients left forwarding addresses, and could not say what the state is doing to locate those who did not leave forwarding addresses, while their benefits continued to be paid through direct deposit to bank accounts.

Those recipients who did leave forwarding addresses but failed to respond to subsequent letters seeking confirmation were stripped of their benefits, Loftus said. Those actions took place last summer, but were only revealed late yesterday in response to a Herald request. Loftus could not say how many clients have been booted from the system as a result of the address snafu.

However, Loftus said last night the address database that was used in the mailings may have also "likely included many former clients who are no longer receiving benefits and may have moved to a new address, as well as applicants who were denied benefits."

Gov. Deval Patrick's office declined to comment.

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  1. kpc1939Comment by kpc1939
    January 8, 2013 @ 9:50 am

    It’s not the 1% that is the problem. The problem is the BLOATED government. The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.

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    • markatrightComment by markatright
      January 8, 2013 @ 10:23 am

      Yes, the right hand does: it’s sitting on itself while the left hand passes out our tax dollars!

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    • susieqComment by susieq
      January 8, 2013 @ 1:11 pm

      And this my friends, is just a sliver of government in action…bye – bye taxdollars…right down the john…

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 8, 2013 @ 3:23 pm

      “DTA spokesman Alec Loftus said he. . .could not say what the state is doing to locate those who did not leave forwarding addresses, while their benefits continued to be paid through direct deposit to bank accounts.”

      The solution is simple. First, stop all benefits paid to those whose letters were returned with no forwarding address. Then, fire the DTA spokesman who said he can’t tell you what is being done to correct the problem because obviously he is incompetent. Of course I am sure that is par for the course within Massashusetts government.

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    • copakemanComment by copakeman
      January 8, 2013 @ 8:55 pm

      each hand knows exactly what each is doing, each one is giving away our tax dollars as fast as they both can to anyone who asks for some cash. its govt SOP.

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  2. shafawnComment by shafawn
    January 8, 2013 @ 10:19 am

    Surprise Surprise Surprise

    Is anyone surprised?

    I’m not -_-

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      January 8, 2013 @ 11:05 am

      Nope. Not a bit.

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    • phunyfarmComment by phunyfarm
      January 8, 2013 @ 11:58 am

      Attributed to Gomer Pyle who has more sense than all our government combined.
      Just give the money away, it’s not yours so who cares?
      Liquor and strippers are healthy for the non-working entitlement folks. Makes them better people.
      Sending my tax dollars to non-existent individuals – our government shows how much they care about all of us, who, to them don’t really exist either. Just a bunch of suckers to plunder, not really people @ all….

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  3. jmikes1951Comment by jmikes1951
    January 8, 2013 @ 10:20 am

    As messed up as our welfare system is I am sure that Massachusetts is not the only state and how many of that missing 19,000 were paid their benefits and voted Democratic

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    • trashmanComment by trashman
      January 8, 2013 @ 10:42 am

      I think that it is far more probably that many of the 19,000 simply do not currently exist.

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    • arwenusaComment by arwenusa
      January 8, 2013 @ 10:53 am

      If this had happened in Texas, I would assume they had gone back to Mexico.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      January 8, 2013 @ 11:06 am

      So true, arwenusa. So true.

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    • cdrcodyComment by cdrcody
      January 8, 2013 @ 12:49 pm

      But, trashman, they probably voted anyway.

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  4. KAHR50Comment by KAHR50
    January 8, 2013 @ 10:35 am

    “It was not clear last night how many of the missing clients have moved out of state or are otherwise no longer eligible to receive Massachusetts benefits.”

    Hmmmm. I’ll bet no checks were returned and no direct deposits were rejected… coincidence of course.

    “However, Loftus said last night the address database that was used in the mailings may have also “likely included many former clients who are no longer receiving benefits and may have moved to a new address, as well as applicants who were denied benefits.”

    Don’t you just love people whe speak out of their glutes? Make up an excuse based on personal feelings, supppositions or just plain bull ****; support it with absolutely zero facts, state it in the media and then wait for the stupid ill-informed public to suffer amnesia.

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    • cosmo121Comment by cosmo121
      January 8, 2013 @ 2:46 pm

      If the State would just NOT SEND their checks….they will come a runnin’…..G A U R A N T E E D !

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      January 8, 2013 @ 3:38 pm

      “likely included many former clients who are no longer receiving benefits and may have moved to a new address, as well as applicants who were denied benefits.”

      IF they were “no longer receiving benefits” or had “been denied benefits” WHY were they receiving letters from the state anyway?

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  5. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    January 8, 2013 @ 10:50 am

    ok and now what??

    its a leftist state in a leftist country

    maybe someone will lose their job ..and then

    IRONICALLY BE ON WELFARE

    the leftists have won

    the “protectors” , the rinos made sure of that

    elect libertarians ONLY or face this same garbage yoy

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  6. Blu OwenComment by Blu Owen
    January 8, 2013 @ 10:54 am

    Unfortunately, this may only be the tip of the iceberg. Since the 19,000 is approximately 3.9% of the total number and these were only the ones that were were sent back marked “Return to sender, address unknown.” I would be more than curious what the numbers would have been if all those letters had been sent out as ‘Restricted Delivery’ which would require the person whose name is on the letter to actually identify themselves and sign for it. It would not surprise me to see the number of undeliverable to jump dramatically.

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    • Blu OwenComment by Blu Owen
      January 8, 2013 @ 11:15 am

      I already know that some may point out that this would cost about $7.50 for each recipient which would mean about $3.6 million to do this one time. I do believe that this would also help the Post Office and they might reduce the rate for such a program. I look at it this way, if such a program only reduced the total number of recipients by 1% the program would probably pay for itself.

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  7. Dingbat36Comment by Dingbat36
    January 8, 2013 @ 11:41 am

    Take everyone’s welfare benefits who can not be notified away. The government of Massachusetts (liberal lefties) may be embarrassed but you can be guaran-damn-teed they aren’t sorry that they threw away taxpayer funds intended for state residents on those who may actually have returned to their home countries!

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  8. gnafuComment by gnafu
    January 8, 2013 @ 11:48 am

    Probably 19,000 illegals who are part of the illegals living in MA. Those 19,000 may have returned to Mexico or elsewhere because they see that the U.S. government is the same if not worse than the country they came from.

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    • conserveusa38Comment by conserveusa38
      January 8, 2013 @ 5:30 pm

      I live in MA and this is a big problem. I have received food stamps only when things got really tough for me and my family. I got injured and had some state help. BUT I never received any money and I am not even sure how these people do. But one thing I noticed when I was filling out a form was that it had a space for you to fill if you did NOT have a social security number and were illegal. And these people were STILL going to receive some form of benefits. Now that is so screwed up! So MA knows it hands out money and whatever else to illegal immigrants. Most of the people on welfare in this state I doubt is legal. I mean, if we are going to give them insurance etc…why wouldn’t they flock here?

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  9. davnkatzComment by davnkatz
    January 8, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

    Simple solution (and thanks to Blu Owen for additional idea). Send a “restrictive delivery” to every welfare recipient. The message will be: “You must report in person to the welfare office on (allow 5 work days from date of mailing). Bring sufficient information and identification to prove your identity and state/local residency/citizenship. Failure to report as directed will result in immediate stoppage of any direct deposit of welfare funds into your bank account and removal from our welfare roll.” Would be expensive to mail out the notices, bhut the number of “no shows” would save the city/county/state so much money it would be worth the cost and effort.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      January 9, 2013 @ 12:12 am

      actually, using your idea, using restrictive delivery would be redundant anyway. Just send out all the mailings with the wording you suggest. The first wave of undeliverable mailings would weed out some bad recipients, and the rest would be eliminated across the desk of a government employee when they can’t prove their identity. No need to bear the cost of an expensive mailing. Shuffle some government workers from other agencies perhaps, to handle the influx of work for the first month, and you’ve got the whole mess cleaned up in no time.

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  10. averageComment by average
    January 8, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

    And notice how they did’nt say how many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS were sent to thoses recipances

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  11. hisemiester1Comment by hisemiester1
    January 8, 2013 @ 12:29 pm

    Here in Ar. where I live I know of one person who owned an excavation company and collected welfare at the same time. He had registered the company under his wifes name. He was ultimately caught, but didn’t have to pay back anything.
    It is the same with stealing, if they need it, it isn’t called stealing, it’s theiving. Make sense?

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    • sonofthealamoComment by sonofthealamo
      January 8, 2013 @ 1:43 pm

      here its reversed,the female claims the father,unknown,not in household or returned to mexico or where ever,meanwhile the missing male works and can then spend all their paychecks on new dodge ram,beer or any thing else besides food and that’s just the tip she may have sect 8,tanf,wic,then they hit the food banks and the icing on the cake is at the end of the year someone carries these kids of a father less house and collect a $2500 child tax credit,shot didnt the news even say some of the kids were in mexico and some were just kin folk

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  12. BillzillaComment by Billzilla
    January 8, 2013 @ 12:35 pm

    “The Department of TRANSITIONAL Assistance”?

    The name suggests that these “benefits” were to get people on their feet until they could support themselves. What I wonder is; how many of the addresses the DTA had on file, were vacant lots or empty buildings?

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  13. moose1Comment by moose1
    January 8, 2013 @ 12:39 pm

    They are in Maine. I would suggest starting the search in the following cities: Lewiston, Auburn, Augusta, Waterville, Portland, and Bangor.

    We have never seen so many Massachusetts t-shirts and sweatshirts as we now see in our state…in the winter. Most of them are in our lowest income areas.

    Don’t worry, MA, we will gladly send them back to you:)

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  14. debtComment by debt
    January 8, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

    Here a 100% solution that takes less than two weeks to show positive results. Gov Patrick should simply stop payment on those 19,000 checks. Within a week 5,000 inaccurate addresses will be corrected. A missing check will do that… And for the rest who don’t come forward, 11,000 fraud cases can be initiated. Since payments were made by EFT’s, I’ll bet this makes it a Federal offense, so the State AG will be compelled to comply on behalf of us taxpayers. Oh, if the perps can’t be identified by address, I suggest the Bank’s who service fradulent clients be held as co-consipirators unless they can produce the proper documentation for any remaining addressless reciepents.

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  15. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    January 8, 2013 @ 1:41 pm

    Here is another for congress, as it happens. If our congress doesn’t get to crackin on the miserable way our governments are so carelessly handled, they are going down the tubes with the rest of us. Don’t they realize that their benefits can stop also ? This just one case in millions of cases. They need fixed, pink slips handed out, names, positions, etc announced and then followed up on collections and fines.

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  17. librabobComment by librabob
    January 8, 2013 @ 2:20 pm

    As disgusting as tax payers find this to be, its just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine the billions of dollars wasted every year on this type of fraud nationwide. Even more frustrating is the government’s apparent lack of desire to eliminate or even significantly reduce this sort of fraud. Why worry about it when they can just tax us some more to off-set the loss. Direct depositing of welfare checks facilitates fraud, as does EBT food-stamp cards, especially when they allowed for ATM cash withdrawals. What were they thinking! In trying to eliminate the negative stigma for these recipients, which is attached to being on welfare, the government has created this monster we call welfare fraud on a scale that would bankrupt most small countries. I don’t see this president or anyone in congress for that matter willing to take this issue on.

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  18. markatrightComment by markatright
    January 8, 2013 @ 3:26 pm

    Just had a thought: maybe all those new IRS agents can tackle this welfare fraud instead of enforcing ObamaCare penalizing those folks and businesses who don’t want to participate…

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  19. middlegroundComment by middleground
    January 8, 2013 @ 5:27 pm

    The problem with our nation’s welfare system lies with the type of person who is drawn to work in the welfare division of the human services industry. Basically, they are all highly compassionate people who to quote one social worker “are drawn to this occupation because they can give help to the needy”, but they are not necessarily the type of person who has the ability to get their clients on the path to a productive life. For example, my roommate as a grad student was getting his MS is social work. He had 55 clients who were receiving welfare support, but he made the mistake of checking with the police to see if they were registered workers in the sex trade. The police knew most of his 55 and estimated most of them had an “under the table” income which would have put them in President Obama’s hated “richest 1%”, yet they were still officially living in poverty. My friend’s boss was appalled that he hadn’t believed his client’s statement that they had no income and spouted the nonsense that not believing them would undermine their confidence and restored their welfare payments. My friend got his MS and went to work in a bank.

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  20. fabianComment by fabian
    January 8, 2013 @ 5:43 pm

    So now a welfare recipient is a client (they buy votes) like a worker in Subway is a sandwich artist. We progress. In Europe a janitor is a surface technician. Let’s keep on the good work.

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  21. gopuc12450Comment by gopuc12450
    January 8, 2013 @ 6:04 pm

    My 2013 resolutions won’t let me ponder the thought that those in the administration of the Dole are complicit in ‘redirecting’ any funds!
    See, I came close to breaking my resolution in just 8 days.

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  23. rgraComment by rgra
    January 8, 2013 @ 9:55 pm

    Perhaps give them all guns when they sign up for welfare. Then, an enterprising “journalist” will gather their addresses and publish them.

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  25. snave53Comment by snave53
    February 15, 2013 @ 7:14 am

    Sorry I am late on the comment.
    I agree with you on how to stop it, but I believe the best thing to do is just STOP all payments immediately, and then let the honest welfare recipients re-apply.
    You will get a much faster response this way!
    Thanks!

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  26. sonofthealamoComment by sonofthealamo
    January 9, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

    amen,its not really these people are small fish in the grand scheme of it all.just look around the world.tanzenia-$531 mill/what in the/why member of the imf-ethiopia-580 mill,i remember as a child(and that was a while ago)sitting with my grandfather and hearing on the news they were getting aid,you know i may die but i don’t think the aid will.nigeria-625 mill(ditto)kenya-625 mill,jordon 676 mill ?,eqypt-1,557 mill(that money sure has been spent well)iraq1,683 mill,pakastan-2,102 mill(and he is back for more)afganastan-2,327 mill(they want us gone)and isreal-3,075 mill,i know they are our ally and friend but my neighbor is also my friend,and i am more than happy to help him in his time of need but 75 years is long enough.these may be a year or two old.if you look every country even china,last i heard in the news they were booming,the new economic leader of the word(now i know how),almost every country in the world receives as much as 50 mill in aid.they projected 56.1 billion dollars in aid in 2013.shouldn’t this raise alarm because after all are they not just welfare recipients,my grand father (bless his soul)always said IF YOU CANNOT CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE STAY OUT OTHERS.i in a sad way would rather see an American whose family somewhere down the line may have died for this country,worked their whole live here fraud me than some country that don’t give a hoot or holler about my country or my way of life

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