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Political correctness overcomes common sense at Belleville, IL Denny's

By Belleville News-Democrat

BELLEVILLE - Police Chief William Clay has banned all on-duty police officers from eating at Denny's Restaurant on South Illinois Street after a detective was asked to remove her gun or leave the restaurant on New Year's Day.

"All sworn (uniformed/non-uniformed) officers have been prohibited from entering Denny's Restaurant at 1130 South Illinois for any meal or coffee breaks while on duty," Clay said in a released statement. "Additionally, no officers may enter the restaurant off-duty if in uniform."

Calls for service by Denny's will continue to receive the appropriate law enforcement response from the Belleville Police Department, Clay said.

A local manager at Denny's reached by phone Wednesday declined to comment about the incident.

A spokeswoman for Denny's Corp. Liz DiTrapano said in response to a concern raised by a guest about a customer with a firearm, the manager approached the individual and communicated that Denny's policy does not permit firearms in the restaurant.

"Upon further discussion, we became aware the individual was a plain-clothed police officer," DiTrapano said in a statement. "Denny's policy permits law enforcement officials to carry their firearms in the restaurant, and we regret any misunderstanding."

Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax said five on-duty detectives were eating about 10 a.m. Tuesday when restaurant manager David Rice approached and advised a female detective that she needed to take her weapon, which was visible to patrons, out to her car or leave the restaurant.

Sax said the other four detectives initially thought Rice was joking with the female detective until she told Rice that she was a police officer and that all persons present at the table were police officers.

According to police, Rice stated he had a complaint from another customer about the weapon and she had to take the weapon outside or leave. Other detectives advised Rice they were on-duty Belleville police detectives.

Sax said the manager notified them company policy dictates only officers in uniform may have weapons, and Rice went on to state there was a sign on the door indicating weapons were only allowed in the restaurant if officers were in uniform.

The detectives asked Rice whether he wanted them to stop eating and they were told they could take their food with them. Sax said the detectives advised the manager they would not leave weapons outside while on duty and stood up to leave.

As the detectives were leaving the restaurant, Sax said General Manager Michael Van walked up and advised Rice it was fine for the detectives to be in the restaurant.

"At this point, the detectives were embarrassed and felt the situation was entirely too awkward for them to remain and all left the restaurant," Sax said.

Sax said there was no sign posted on the door of the restaurant stating police officers must be in uniform if they have a weapon.

At the time of the incident, all the detectives were wearing plain clothes, according to Sax. He said three of the detectives had their badges clipped on their belt next to their duty weapon, and the other two had their badges hanging from a chain around their necks, all in plain sight. There were also several portable police radios on the table for the working detectives to monitor other police activities.

Clay was notified by Capt. John Moody, chief of investigations, about the incident at about 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, which was a holiday.

"This was an insult, a slap in the face, to those detectives and to all of the men and women who proudly wear the uniform or badge and serve in law enforcement," Clay said. "This individual (Rice) was the manager of Denny's. He therefore speaks for Denny's, in my mind.

"This policy effectively prohibits on-duty sworn police officers from dining in a Denny's Restaurant, but allows 'registered sex offenders,' 'felons' and or 'pedophiles' to enjoy a dining experience in Denny's," he said. "While I am appalled at this policy, I am sadly not shocked by it. We see so much political stupidness carried out in this day and age. I am hopeful that this incident reflects on the poor judgment of one individual and not the Denny's restaurant chain."

Word about the incident involving the Belleville police detectives circulated rapidly Tuesday and Wednesday on social media sites such as Facebook.

"I had hoped to meet privately with members of Denny's management on a regional level to discuss this policy and share our views," Clay said. "However in today's world of instant social media, such events are difficult if not impossible to resolve confidentially."

Contact reporter Jamie Forsythe at 239-2562 or jforsythe1@bnd.com.

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  1. pebearComment by pebear
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:04 am

    So Denny’s wants to be a gun free zone. That puts the criminals and psychopaths on notice that they can kick the door in at Denny’s and have their way with people there because they will know that at Denny’s they should receive no consequences because there are no weapons in Denny’s. I guess I’ll stop eating at Denny’s too, not a safe place to take the family any more.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      January 3, 2013 @ 10:49 am

      No weapons and no police officers allowed. Pretty stupid policy.

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      January 3, 2013 @ 10:53 am

      Remember, it was a customer at that Denny’s restaraunt who complained to management.
      If the manager had gone back to that customer with the explanation that the armed woman was a police officer, that would probably have ended it.

      The manager took the wrong course, and the cops didn’t let him off the hook.

      A citizen with a CCW could still provide armed resistance to an attacker in the absence of the cops … except for one thing.

      It is Illinois … where they don’t allow concealed carry for anyone.

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    • habaladyComment by habalady
      January 3, 2013 @ 12:45 pm

      So if Obama was eating here his secret service would not be permitted to have their guns either, Right?

      Stupidity never ceases to amaze me!

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    • fallschComment by fallsch
      January 3, 2013 @ 2:50 pm

      @ vietnamvet
      In North Carolina, if it’s posted that no firearms are allowed then even a CWP won’t help.

      The correct response from the manager should have been to return to the original person who complained and said they’re cops, deal with it.

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    • jrp34Comment by jrp34
      January 4, 2013 @ 10:30 pm

      I hope that stupid democrat manager got fired on the spot. People like that are not smart enough to hold down any job where common sense decisions may be required.

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    • LAPhilComment by LAPhil
      January 6, 2013 @ 12:32 pm

      I guess they’ve forgotten about the massacre at the McDonald’s in San Ysidro, CA in the 1980′s where about a dozen people were mowed down by a maniac with an assault-type firearm. It’s really unfortunate that none of the customers were armed at the time.

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  2. MadeinAmerica33Comment by MadeinAmerica33
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:06 am

    Just more Liberal Progressive craziness. Denny’s ,I believe have been sites of several shootings in the past. In California, AZ,Wisconsin in the past 10 years. You would think Denny’s management would like to see more officers use their services. And the World gets whackier every day!

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  3. librabobComment by librabob
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:08 am

    I wonder if the Denny’s Manager David Rice would allow plain cloths police officers to respond to a 911 call from his establishment if an armed robbery was in progress and he was the one being held at gun point? What an idiot. I’m sure he probably voted for Obama, not a lick of common sense. If Denny’s doesn’t fire this guy immediately perhaps law enforcement officers nationwide should boycott all Denny’s Restaurants in protest.

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    • michiganrebComment by michiganreb
      January 3, 2013 @ 10:35 am

      With this weak minded thinking they beleive making them “Gun Free Zones” will protect them. It worked so well for Sandy Hook Elementary and the Theatre in Colorado. Better yet the police should refuse to set foot inside any Denny’s until they change the policy.

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  4. Tonto (USA)Comment by Tonto (USA)
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:19 am

    Liberals prove again and again that as long as they exist,we are not in danger of running out of idiots in this world. I’d have thought that armed cops, in uniform or not, would be almost a godsend to any place where people gather. That’s called protection. This thing should have been handled so differently.

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    • way2coolComment by way2cool
      January 4, 2013 @ 9:18 am

      I would suggest to Denny’s the next time they are confronted by robbers, they send a signal to the busboys to come and save them!

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  5. burningmanComment by burningman
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:19 am

    Don’t fire the moron, just reassign him to the position of chief dish washer.

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    • MadeinAmerica33Comment by MadeinAmerica33
      January 3, 2013 @ 10:34 am

      If “HE” was washing dishes there, I would Diffinately NOT eat there!

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  6. begneli2011Comment by begneli2011
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:38 am

    When I was a kid in the 1940′ , my grandfather lived in a 3 room farm house with a pot belly stove for heat, no electricity, no indoor plumbing, and a loaded 12 gauge double barrel in the corner. 12 children and wives and 30 grandchildren and no one ever touched that gun, and no ladies swooned with political correctness.

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    • sockettuemComment by sockettuem
      January 3, 2013 @ 11:16 am

      Those were times when people still possessed what we call common sense. In this age of the insidious evil of political correctness, common sense has deserted us. Hysterical self-righteous liberal fools now demand even those who would protect them should do so unarmed. Criminals should be delighted.

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    • leadfoot320Comment by leadfoot320
      January 4, 2013 @ 4:36 pm

      I HAVE EATEN AT DENNY’S MANY TIMES AND NEVER SEEN A SIGN. I WILL CHECK THE NEXT TIME. I LIVE IN A STATE WHERE YOU CAN CARRY IN THE OPEN. OR CCW WITH A PERMIT. I AVOID GUN FREE ZONE’S AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SAFE !
      HOW COME THE STATES WITH WITH THE LEAST GUN CONTROL HAVE THE LOWEST CRIME RATE ??? IS IT BECAUSE BAD GUYS ARE IN MORE DANGER OF GETTING CAUGHT OR KILLED ??

      SHOULD MAKE YOU THINK !

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  7. michiganmanComment by michiganman
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:54 am

    They are in Illinois and they don’t allow concealed carry so if the cops have guns there will be NO guns at all in a Denny
    s right? (note sarcam)

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  8. shafawnComment by shafawn
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:54 am

    So all robbers and thieves .. do you hear that?

    Dennys is unarmed and unprotected and now pissed off the police.

    Robbers and thieves are listening… more to follow

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  9. thomasjeffersonComment by thomasjefferson
    January 3, 2013 @ 10:59 am

    Take it one step further, if you receive a 911 call from this Denny’s you say “Sorry, we seem to be busy at the moment”

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    • jewellsComment by jewells
      January 3, 2013 @ 5:11 pm

      Or they could say, “police will respond after they bring their weapons back to the station.”

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  10. Ron AlfordComment by Ron Alford
    January 3, 2013 @ 11:04 am

    Denny’s just shot themselves in the foot, again.

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  11. VeeDubComment by VeeDub
    January 3, 2013 @ 11:29 am

    These are obama’s peeps. I’d like to make sure you know you haven’t entered the Twilight Zone, you’ve entered the progressive / liberal / socialist / democrat / obama world.

    You should also know that anyone who fits into any of the categories above, fits into ALL of them.

    The Constitution, Rights and laws don’t matter! All that matters is that nobody is offended, and nobody can defend themselves.

    Because we all know killing criminals that are trying to kill us, just isn’t politically correct.

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  12. DudleyComment by Dudley
    January 3, 2013 @ 11:43 am

    This policy didn’t turn out well for Luby’s either.

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    • socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
      January 3, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

      good one

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  13. mysticComment by mystic
    January 3, 2013 @ 11:50 am

    So… this story takes place in the state of Illinois…which houses one of the worst gun crime rate cities in the nation, Chicago. More criminals have guns then legal citizen carry…. k…got that part.

    Some ‘patron’… love how vague that is in this story, complained to a manager about the offensiveness of seeing the ‘butt’ of a gun. Hmmmm…as if the delicate sensibilities of the people of Illinois somehow is so fragile that even the sight of a butt/handle of a gun is enough to send them swooning? Is that what we are supposed to believe here?

    Scenario should have been ensuring the gun owner was a law enforcement official or private lawful permitted carry citizen. Once that was cleared up, the manager should have marched his narrow bum back over to said swooning patron and cleared up any misunderstandings with one of two simple words…’cop’ or ‘legal’. Done…fin’eto, mission accomplished.

    Makes me wonder about the patron though. Was a post breakfast burglary brewing and the site of four armed individuals made said patron think twice. Couldn’t have his or her plans foiled now can they? *><*

    Stupidity comes in all flavors folks. In trying to appease the many, you screw over everyone!

    Denny's is off my list … food isn't that great anyway. I HOP here I come! : }

    ~M

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      January 3, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

      Very well put and I agree. Dennys, KFC and Taco Bell are all owned by the same people and now off the dining list. I like going to establishments that go out of their way to cater to law enforcement in and out of uniform because they make me SAFE.

      So many times I wish that instead of turning this country into a socialist cess pool .. why can’t Hollywood and all the other socialists just move to France??? Wouldn’t they be happier in Europe somewhere.
      Take Dennys with you when you go…

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    • reijoComment by reijo
      January 4, 2013 @ 4:57 pm

      Good points Shafawn. I can’t see McDonalds making the same mistake.

      Maybe Dennys should close down and move to that beacon of political correctness which is the UK today.

      Then they can move across the pond to Ireland and open a chain with a name change to Dannys.

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  14. SSG RDGComment by raydg
    January 3, 2013 @ 12:58 pm

    Two things wrong. First being that plain clothes detectives were in uniform as plain clothes is the uniform for their duties. The second one is we live in a society that has an unhealthy fear of firearms that someone complained that a cop was armed. No wonder we let criminals rule the streets. What a shame.

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  15. kskiddComment by kskidd
    January 3, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

    “This was an insult, a slap in the face, to those detectives and to all of the men and women who proudly wear the uniform or badge and serve in law enforcement” …. It’s more than that. It’s an insult to every American who respects law and those who put their lives on the line to enforce it. It’s an insult to any one with an intellect greater than an amoeba. It’s an insult to decency. It’s also just another indication of how stupid some people can be concerning firearms.

    I worked as restaurant manager for years, beginning with Burger Chef in 1968 and in family restaurants as well. Our policy was that police officers got free coffee or sodas any time and 50% off all meals because we wanted them to patronize our place. If I personally was aware of an officers birthday, the meal was free. The reason? Because just their visible presence on a regular basis kept our business, our customers and our employees safe. We certainly didn’t harass them if they were in plain clothes because they were still police officers in our business and still an added safety factor for our business, our customers and our employees

    Without looking on a map I can only guess where Belleville is. My guess would be that it’s to close to, or part of Chicago, where the safest policy is to keep the cops out and give the criminals discounts and free birthday meals. Kind of a “new age protection” policy?

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      January 3, 2013 @ 1:21 pm

      That’s the Obama plan… comes with a free phone

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      January 4, 2013 @ 3:27 am

      Belleville is a suburb of St. Louis, MO.

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  16. crunchemComment by crunchem
    January 3, 2013 @ 2:41 pm

    customer: Uh, waitress, that lady over there has a gun

    waitress: Sir, she is a police officer, as well as the others at the table

    customer: Well, I’m kind of uncomfortable with dining while seeing a gun

    waitress: (just loud enough for nearby tables to hear) I understand. Would you like to move to another table, or should I package the rest of your meal to take home?

    customer: (shocked) What are you saying?

    waitress: (a bit louder) While I appreciate your feelings, and all customers are important, there is absolutely no way I’m going to go over there and ask a table of police officers to remove their guns, or leave if they refuse. They can stay as long as they want.

    customer: (agitated) Well, I might just take my business elsewhere if you don’t do something.

    waitress: (confidently) There’s nothing to do, sir. Here’s your check. Thank you for choosing Denny’s, and I do hope you you return to our safe, crime-protected restaurant. Have a nice day.

    restaurant regulars: yeah!; (clapping); you tell him, Flo!; go home, lib!; officers, can I buy you all a slice of pie?

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    • fallschComment by fallsch
      January 3, 2013 @ 2:57 pm

      shorten it to: They’re cops. sierra tango foxtrot uniform.

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    • LenaComment by Lena
      January 3, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

      I love it, Crunchem. But, there’s no way that would ever happen among the low-information citizens that inhabit Obama country.

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  17. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    January 3, 2013 @ 3:01 pm

    On this one, I am taking the otherside of the argument

    she was plainclothes so thats a no go

    eating with other obvious policeman doesnt give her the right to carry

    as far as dennys advertising to criminals that they are a gun free zone

    that is just stupid

    but aint that America
    the home of the formerly free

    no little pink houses for you and me

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      January 3, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

      So you’re saying off duty police officers should just ignore you if you are being robbed or mugged? Guess what? They take an oath that specifically includes OFF DUTY service to their community.

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    • socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
      January 4, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

      shafawn

      huh?

      you mean they should abdicate their responsibilities ???

      no way

      the restaurant doesnt allow it ( I didnt say I agree with them but the law allows them that “Choice”" its not a choice for the officer to not act, off duty or not)

      the policy is about the uniform

      non uniformed cannot carry

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    • gopjoeComment by gopjoe
      January 12, 2013 @ 9:12 am

      Sorry to burst your little bubble, but there was no sign on the front door stating that only uniformed police officers could carry, nor was said female officer off duty, so she had no choice but to leave the restaurant rather than be on duty without her service revolver. And, BTW, all 5 police officers at the table were plaincloths detectives.

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    • VeeDubComment by VeeDub
      January 12, 2013 @ 9:50 am

      There have been several comments here about the officer being or not being allowed to carry their weapons off duty in plain clothes.

      SHOW US THE LAW IN THE STATE AND CITY WHERE THIS HAPPENED!

      Like most everything else laws differ from state to state. I don’t need a permit to carry my weapon in plain clothes or concealed ANYWHERE, even places that have signs up.

      MY state law allows officers to carry a weapon at all times, because… wait for it. Some thug wanting to get even for arresting them or their buddy last week catches you on the street, recognizes you, and attacks you and/or your family.

      ALL LEOs should be (I find it hard to believe some States don’t allow it) legally authorized to have the ability to defend themselves at any time.

      I was personally confronted by a thug while at dinner in Pizza Hut with my family. After he started his **** and it escalated, I took him down, and found a revolver tucked in the back of his pants.

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  18. wdjincComment by wdjinc
    January 3, 2013 @ 3:07 pm

    I will no longer eat at Denny’s. then maybe they will allow armed police officers in to eat their **** food. I am very comfortable when I see police officers in restuarants where I’m eating.

    The Manager should be fired asap.

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  19. kskiddComment by kskidd
    January 3, 2013 @ 3:56 pm

    I hate to be the bad guy here to say something in support of Denny’s, but as I understand it, this incident involved one assistant manager. The general manager knew better. I think it’s a mistake to ransack Denny’s reputation over this, as much fun as it may be to poke fun at someone not to bright. Didn’t Denny’s loose a 54 million dollar lawsuit because some black people got lousy service? I have had lousy service more than once myself, and I have had black customers receive their meals faster than I did after I ordered first, but being white, I couldn’t sue :(

    Any way, when you hack on a corporation the size of Denny’s because of the action or words of an employee here and there, you are as guilty of attacking the free enterprise system as the liberals who never miss a chance to sue someone.

    Agreed, this situation was a lousy one, and Denny’s policy may be company wide, but I doubt very seriously if many Denny’s managers would have asked any police officer, off duty or other wise to remove their guns or leave the restaurant.

    I think the manager that suffered from an incident of foot in mouth and head ….uh.. misplaced, should be reprimanded and that the decision of whether or not a firing should happen belongs to the general manager, the franchise owner, or Denny’s corporation.

    The fact is, you can get lousy service in anybodies restaurant from time to time because they employ human beings. That’s no reason to rake thousands of other employees or store owners over the coals.

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      January 3, 2013 @ 6:32 pm

      Do you notice the awkward silence from the owners of Denny’s? Do you REALLY think this is by coincidence?

      If they don’t step up and make their stand on this issue known they are drawing a line and we will stand on the side that is ours.

      Of course it’s Chicago. Doesn’t anybody connect corruption crime with embracing socialism and Obama in Chicago?

      Is that another coincidence?

      Wake up people before it’s too late

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 3, 2013 @ 6:50 pm

      Well, I know that I’ve been in supervisory positions quite a few times in my life and I know that people under my supervision have compromised not only my personal integrity but also that of some of my employers. So, I also know that the general manager of that restaurant is in a hot seat he did not ask to be in and I know that Denny’s corporation has been a target for more than one unjust and unfair lawsuit. By remaining silent, I suspect they are hoping this thing will just go fade away and there won’t be any need to “draw a line” that’s going to bring on a public uproar with most people not thinking before they shout.

      I also know that mob mentality is much more becoming (expected) of liberals than it is of people who claim to believe in the values that made us an exceptional nation, which conservatives espouse. Holding large numbers of people (all Denny’s managers, employees and executives) responsible for the ignorance of one individual is not a conservative thinkers way of responding.

      I know that there are times to take an “us against them” stand and there are times when it is best to just leave well enough alone. This was an isolated incident involving one assistant manager. While it may be nice if Denny’s were to issue a statement, I don’t think Denny’s should have to prove that they do not support the position that manager took against police officers. I think they should be able to expect the majority of Americans have the common sense to know that this individual was not speaking accurately for their entire corporation. (If I should happen to find out other wise, please accept my retraction in advance.) They may in fact make a statement, but I suspect it will only be after they wait to see what kind of storm gets kicked up.

      Of course, having said that, witch hunting and kicking up storms seems more and more to be becoming America’s favorite past time.
      as a conservative myself (very, I think) I think it’s better to focus on real political issues, such as the merits of the Constitution and the 2nd amendment than it is to become distracted over a single, local incident of stupidity by one individual. I also think conservatives have much more to be concerned about right now than causing an uproar over this and I sincerely believe that Denny’s corporation is not responsible for the stupidity of one employee. I doubt any one in America could name a single business of any size that has not got at least one kind of stupid person on their payroll. In fact, I think it safe to say that ‘common sense’ is dead in America, because it it were still alive, more people would have it and we wouldn’t be in the shape we’re in. (that last comment about common sense is intended humorously)

      I don’t think Denny’s corporation is very much involved in Chicago politics, or with Obama trying to set himself up as America’s number one crime boss just because one person demonstrates a lack of intelligence,

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  20. mrsgunnut10Comment by mrsgunnut10
    January 3, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

    Maybe Denny’s should put up a big Outside Sign that says : “NO GUNS ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY”, on all of their Property Parking Lots. That way people could go on by without stopping and then won’t have to get back in their vehicles to go to another eating place. Stupid – Stupid – Stupid. Denny’s are your Managers really that STUPID ????? Thank you for your time. TSgt., USAF Retired.

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  22. bobmontyComment by bobmonty
    January 3, 2013 @ 6:59 pm

    The cops are lucky they didn’t get a dose of botulism while they were there.

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  23. anonymousComment by anonymous
    January 3, 2013 @ 7:02 pm

    I wanted to thank the majority of you for the support offered to my coworkers. I have been completely frightened at some responses I have seen to this story on other sites. I am happy to see and read that there are still sensible people out there who support my coworkers. I have worked for the BPD for many years now and know all five Detectives and let me assure you all that they are fantastic officers and great people. Also, I just wanted to say that Belleville is not near Chicago (like some have assumed on here). Belleville is about 10 miles from St. Louis Missouri and borders East St. Louis, Illinois. But make no mistake about it, this area and county (St. Clair)is VERY liberal. Thanks again for the support

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 3, 2013 @ 7:23 pm

      @ anonymous … you may have noticed that I made a couple of lengthy comments in support of Denny’s (the corporation and all it’s people, not the individual who caused the incident) I meant the things I said sincerely.

      If you happened across my first comment, I also meant most of that sincerely, with the exception of the comment about if I had to guess, I’d say Belleville is part of or near Chicago. With that statement, I was being facetious, or if you prefer, a wise guy, intending humor. If that comment was offensive to you, I apologize.

      I do sincerely think the incident was insulting to all law enforcement officers and to all law-abiding and respecting citizens. I just think it’s a mistake to hack Denny’s entire corporation to pieces over it. I have been a Denny’s customer in various locations all over the country for about 45 years. My wife, my son and my daughter are all former Denny’s employees and I have had many Denny’s managers as personal friends. I think the police officers in this incident deserved better, but I also think Denny’s and their people deserve some consideration as well. If all are guilty because of one, (example: someone goes on a shooting spree and the liberals think all gun owners are responsible and should loose a piece of American freedom and our Constitution) then we are in a lot more trouble than I already thought we were.

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  25. mach37Comment by mach37
    January 4, 2013 @ 3:42 am

    kskidd – Considering that Denny’s manager said that no-guns was Denny’s Company policy, I’ll take that as truly company policy. So, no more visits to Denny’s for me. There are plenty of other restaurants to visit so I don’t see my attitude as being anti-free enterprise. As for your closing comment, we ARE in a lot more trouble than you already think; all the liberals I know DO think “all gun owners are responsible and should lose a piece of American freedom and our Constitution.”

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    • kskiddComment by kskidd
      January 4, 2013 @ 4:37 am

      Mach37 — I did not say that a choice not to eat at Denny’s is an attack on the free enterprise system, nor did I even think it.

      What I said was “..when you hack on a corporation the size of Denny’s because of the action or words of an employee here and there, you are as guilty of attacking the free enterprise system ..”

      What I intended to say is that it is not right stir up the whole country and rip at an entire corporation because of one individual who most likely misrepresented the corporations policy. That has absolutely nothing to do with individual choices about where they will eat.

      By “no guns”, I doubt Denny’s meant for all assistant managers and managers to tell police officers loose the gun or stay out. I mean, that’s absurd. The reason I call that an attack on free enterprise is that Denny’s employees thousands of people who happen to be Americans, the majority of them I am sure have no objections to police officers carrying guns into Denny’s.

      Denny’s has been a target for several lawsuits already, not because they enforce a racist policy as a company standard, but because some people got upset and saw an opportunity to take millions of dollars off of someone else. That someone else, assuming that corporations pass their monetary expenses on to not only customers, but also their employees in the form of reduced wages and benefits, happens to also be thousands of Americans, many of whom can loose their jobs through no fault of their own if the corporation is crippled enough by bad and inaccurate publicity. To sic the entire corporation and badmouth in a public forum, creating sentiment against people who do not deserve it because of the actions or words of one individual who was clearly out of line is exactly what the liberals tried with Chic Filet. It backfired on them. Real conservative minded people should know better, is my point.

      Having said that, there was a Denny’s not far from here that I visited only one time because I sat at their counter for 30 minutes trying to get a cup of coffee before any one even spoke to me to ask me if I wanted something. I do not hold the entire corporation at fault for that, just that one restaurant to which I never went back.

      In a way, it’s kind of like what happened with George Zimmerman. All kinds of things were said by people who knew nothing about what happened, primarily because it became a huge public issue and every body had to have a say. Then it turns out that the audio tape was doctored by the media to make him look like something he was not.

      I see the same thing happening now against Denny’s and I think it’s wrong, but no, I do not think a personal choice to eat somewhere else is an attack on Denny’s at all.

      As for ““all gun owners are responsible and should lose a piece of American freedom and our Constitution.” I know just about all liberals think that way. My point was that conservatives do not, and shouldn’t, and if they do, THEN we are in more trouble than I already thought we were … because that would make conservatives as nuts as liberals. Conservative minded people, among other things, are supposed to be individually minded, not collectively minded over every thing that comes up. Being united in a real, valid cause and being united in mob mentality is not the same thing at all.

      For what it’s worth, If I should happen to find out that Denny’s does in fact refuse to allow police officers, on duty or off, to enter their premises with their weapons, I personally will never step foot into another Denny’s. But until I KNOW that to be a fact, I am still a regular customer here in the state where I live.

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