while you’re there, why don’t you go ahead and clear up another misconception you’re bound to have. read the part about the type of weapons that the SCOTUS, in 2008, decided are to be available to the militia. “in ordinary use at the time”, which means modern military weapons.

i’m not going to argue the “all firearms should be legal” part of that statement… i happen to agree. the SCOTUS says different, while i don’t necessarily agree, the verbiage in the federalist papers and the 1939 united states vs miller ruling held that the right to bear arms to not apply to any and all arms, but only those that might be used by the militia or standing federal army. miller lost this case, having been charged after the 1934 national firearms act with possession of a sawed off shotgun. the court found (wrongly it soon admitted) that miller’s ownership and possession of a double barrel sawed off shotgun was not protected by the 2nd amendment, in that shotguns “weren’t in military use by the federal army”.. for a reason i have yet to investigate, miller’s lawyer wasn’t in court that day, or he could have rightly argued that the shotgun was indeed in used in the federal army. as a result, his sawed off shotgun should have been a protected weapon under the 2nd amendment. the panel later acknowledged this, but because the ruling have been delivered, the case could not be reopened and miller’s conviction stood.

now, being an NFA item does not mean it’s banned. it means it’s more heavily regulated and you have to go through a lengthy identification process and pay a tax to own one. that means any pre-ban full-auto weapon can be bought (civilian manufacture of full auto firearms was banned in 1964) owned and used as a primary weapon. same with barrel length and sound suppressors. these 3 things make up the list of NFA small arms restrictions currently in place. even the 1994 assault weapons ban wasn’t a ban on actual types of rifles as much as it was on features… feinstein’s to blame for that one too.. confiscation is her stated goal. total, 100% confiscation of all civilian owned firearms..

As long as government is in existance it will continue to pass laws, and each law will be another restriction on some kind of liberty. Eventually, if this process continues there will be a total restriction on everything. That’s the reason the Constitution was put into place, to put a stop to government control. We have allowed, over the years, for the government to take more and more control over the people. I think that Jefferson knew this would happen and why he said the time may come when the people will have to take back the government. This will happen a lot sooner than most people think, and Hussein Obama is speeding the process along. In the Book of Judges the Hebrew people told God they wanted a king. God told them, in a sense, be careful what you ask for you may just get it.

militia-commonly used today to refer to a military force composed of ordinary citizens[2] to provide defense, emergency law enforcement, or paramilitary service, in times of emergency without being paid a regular salary or committed to a fixed term of service.

Blakehar, So what you are telling me and our friend at the top here is that we are neither “ordinary citizens” or “people”? according to this the 2nd amendment applies to everyone.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

Perhaps you can also explain how none of the shooters was in violation of already existing law.

Restricting guns does not keep any one safe. It only makes targets of innocent people and disables any attempt to protect them. It would seem that the “gun free zoning” of our public schools has had the effect of allowing people who do not respect or honor gun laws to kill indiscriminately, kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. You may not like that analogy, so I’ll give you another one: Taking guns from honest, responsible people is akin to tying up the shepherd so the wolves can have free run of the sheep. I don’t mean to be to personal, but it seems to me that any one capable of figuring out a dropped hammer will hit the floor ought to be able to figure these things out.