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State Dept. description of Benghazi attack now in sync with GOP

By Bradley Klapper and Larry Margasak

WASHINGTON (AP) = The State Department now says it never believed the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was a film protest gone awry, giving congressional Republicans new fodder for criticizing the Obama administration's initial accounts of the assault.

The State Department's extraordinary break with other administration offices came in a department briefing Tuesday, where officials said "others" in the executive branch concluded initially that the protest was based, like others in the Middle East, on a film that ridiculed the Prophet Muhammad.

That was never the department's conclusion, a senior official told reporters.

The Republican-led House Oversight and Government Reform Committee holds a hearing Wednesday on diplomatic security in the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The attack as become a political football in the final weeks before the election.

The committee's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., has accused the State Department of turning aside pleas from its diplomats in Libya to increase security in the months and weeks before the attack in Benghazi. One scheduled witness Wednesday, Eric Nordstrom, is the former chief security officer for U.S. diplomats in Libya who told the committee his pleas for more security were ignored.

Briefing reporters Tuesday ahead of the hearing, department officials were asked about the administration's initial - and since retracted - explanation linking the violence to protests over an American-made anti-Muslim video circulating on the Internet. One official responded, without specifying, that it was a question for others to answer.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly on the matter, and provided no evidence that might suggest a case of spontaneous violence or angry protests that went too far.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Republican lawmakers have increasingly sharpened their criticism of the administration's initial explanation of the attack. They said they never accepted the original explanation.

It was a top administration diplomatic official, United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, who gave a series of interviews five days after the attack that wrongly described the attack as spontaneous.

She said that the administration believed the violence was unplanned and that extremists with heavier weapons "hijacked" the protest against the anti-Islamic video. She did qualify her remarks to say that was the best information she had at the time. Rice since has denied trying to mislead Congress.

A concurrent CIA memo obtained by The Associated Press cited intelligence suggesting the demonstrations in Benghazi "were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo" and "evolved into a direct assault" on the diplomatic posts by "extremists."

Nordstrom, the former security official in Libya, addressed the diplomatic security issue in an Oct. 1 email to a congressional investigator. He said his requests for more security were blocked by a department policy to "normalize operations and reduce security resources."

A memo Tuesday by the Oversight Committee's Democratic staff provided details of Nordstrom's interview with the panel's investigators. In that interview, Nordstrom said he sent two cables to State Department headquarters in March 2012 and July 2012 requesting additional diplomatic security agents for Benghazi, but he received no responses.

He stated that Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary for international programs, wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi artificially low. He said Lamb believed the Benghazi facilities did not need any diplomatic security special agents because there was a residential safe haven to fall back to in an emergency.

Nordstrom's Oct. 1 memo to the congressional investigator said, "You will note that there were a number of incidents that targeted diplomatic missions and underscored the GoL's (government of Libya) inability to secure and protect diplomatic missions.

"This was a significant part of (the diplomatic) post's and my argument for maintaining continued DS (diplomatic security) and DOD (Department of Defense) security assets into Sept/Oct. 2012; the GoL was overwhelmed and could not guarantee our protection.

"Sadly, that point was reaffirmed on Sept. 11, 2012, in Benghazi."


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  1. billwvComment by billwv
    October 10, 2012 @ 7:31 am

    Very sadly the ‘lead from behind’ mentality of the Ozero regime has placed all of our diplomats in the middle east and elsewhere in dire straits. The whole of the current administration wreaks of the stench of incompetency. This Amateur-in-Chief must be replaced on Nov. 6 for the good of our country and the welfare of our diplomatic corps.

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    • CharlieComment by vietnamvet
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:50 pm

      ” … The State Department now says it never believed the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was a film protest gone awry, … ”

      Do we take that to mean that it was not Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, who was saying that very thing for several days after the incident?

      What … did she send her double out to say those things?

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  2. tedinpdxComment by tedinpdx
    October 10, 2012 @ 9:28 am

    This was all about “managing the news cycle”. They needed to get past the Sunday lineup of news panels with a story other than the truth. Once UN Ambassador Susan Rice planted the cover story at five different news venues that Sunday, Obama was confident the mainstream media wouldn’t bother reporting on the corrected version.

    Most despicable was the full-court press on Sep. 14th, during the “transfer of remains” ceremony at Andrews Air Force base. Obama made a point of bringing the A-Team along with him (Clinton & Biden, along with Colin Powell), apparently in hopes of making sure the families of the slain Americans knew who’s side they should be on as the political firestorm over his role in this tragedy gained momentum.

    In her description of the event on her facebook page, the mother of Navy Seal Tyrone Woods commented on the warmth and concern of the delegation, and her surprise when she was “kissed by the President”.

    In a later post, having gained her composure (and with an apology for “politicizing her son’s death”), she asked why 16 days had gone by and the FBI investigation team had not yet arrived at the consulate to begin their investigation, calling it “Totally unacceptable”.

    In his remarks at the ceremony, Obama said:

    “Four Americans, four patriots — they loved this country and they chose to serve it, and served it well. They had a mission and they believed in it. They knew the danger and they accepted it.”

    Now we know (and presumably the families know) their “acceptance” was not voluntary, as repeated requests for increased security by the mission in Benghazi were turned down. Of course the Liberal/Leftists were falling all over themselves celebrating Obama’s successful hit on Bin Laden. Now that four Americans have died as a direct consequence of Obama’s negligence, the story isn’t worthy of prime-time coverage.

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  3. sexysadieComment by sexysadie
    October 10, 2012 @ 9:31 am

    The blood of the 4 Americans murdered in Benghazi is on the hands of BO and the secretary of state–and anyone else who supported/supports them. This is an outrage. Every American should be on the warpath for justice for these 4 lives.

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  4. billsComment by bills
    October 10, 2012 @ 10:34 am

    A COMPELLING REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA

    I believe strongly that the Republicans should use the debate as the basis for a compelling reason not to vote for Obama. Specifically: Many of President Obama’s spokes people (apologists) in trying to defend his dismal showing blamed it on the fact that over the past four years he has seldom been challenged as he surrounded himself with “yes men” both in the Admin and mainstream media. As such, he was out of practice and on the odd occasion he was challenged he simply walked out of a press conference or bloviated until he could call on a friendly with the canned questions.

    It is patently clear that if challenged, as was evident in his interview with the Spanish network or occasionally by Jake Tapper or the Fox guy he becomes irritated, petulant and very angry and moves quickly to change the subject. Last Wednesday he could not do that…he had to face the music for 90 minutes. The RNC should hammer the message…in today’s world there are many leaders and groups that are hostile to the US and cannot be addressed with a hug and good word. I would stress to the US voter, using his spokes people’s own words that President Obama cannot deal with being confronted. Even the Harvard mouse Krugman, tried to spin that President Obama does not like controversy and is the great healer. What a joke….he is the most divisive President ever. President Obama has also shown weakness when dealing with world leaders. As simple message…In today’s increasingly volatile world with highly visible hatred for the US, “DO YOU WANT A STRONG LEADER WHO HAS SHOWN THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER HE CAN TAKE THE HEAT, ADDRESS DIFFICULT CHALLENGES AND WORK SUCCESSFULLY WITH ALL PARTIES TO GET THINGS DONE OR A BULLY, CAPITULATOR, DIVIDER WHO CAVES WHEN CHALLENGED TO LEAD THE COUNTRY?” Any voter who would vote for President Obama except those who want the handouts, are in effect setting this country up for years of misery and constant threats from outside. Even those who want the handouts should realize that eventually you run out of people to tax, people who will lend you money or ink to print more money and that their best hope is a party that prizes free enterprise, the rule of law and strong economic growth. I believe a message that focused on leadership using his own people’s words and actions to tell the truth, should be an immediate dis-qualifier for another four years.

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    • tedinpdxComment by tedinpdx
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:30 pm

      I agree with you in principle. However, as Gov. Romney demonstrated in the first debate, he must find a way to challenge Obama without appearing angry or strident, even when the content of the criticisms justify outrage. In my view, Romney did that to perfection in the first debate, so I trust he will in the remaining two.

      The good news is: once Romney raises these issues, Obama’s sycophants in the mainstream media will pay a price if they continue to ignore them.

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  5. bna42Comment by bna42
    October 10, 2012 @ 10:38 am

    “The State Department now says it never believed the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was a film protest gone awry”

    Therefore, the next question should have been WHO did come to that conclusion and WHO told Hillary, Susan Rice, Jay Carney, and all the others in the administration to repeat that lie for more than a week.

    This will be another “dog and pony show” including stonewalling from the administration. Eric Holder has already cautioned those involved not to reveal too much information since it is an “ongoing investigation”.

    Take out the trash November 6th.

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    • fmrusmcrntxComment by fmrusmcrntx
      October 10, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

      Spot on comment, bna42! Your last line says it all! These LIARS are beneath contempt w/the “Liar-in-Chief” the WORST of all! :( Keep the faith, thanks for your service to our nation, Semper Fi! :)

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  6. middlegroundComment by middleground
    October 10, 2012 @ 10:57 am

    Every American whose brain wasn’t atrophied had to realize an attack staged on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attack was staged by El Quida. More disturbing was that the Libyan PM warned American official of a potential attack and they ignored it. This is like having 4 days advance notice of Pearl Harbor and not warning military officials in Hawaii.

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    • agent007Comment by agent007
      October 10, 2012 @ 11:39 am

      If this can be proven it is in my mind an act of Treason.

      It makes the list of what we should take into account when voting November 6:
      - Power grab by the Obama administration: Czars with authorities circumventing Congress, plus a huge number of Executive Orders, as well as open statements by the president that he will go around Congress if he deems that necessary.
      - Total failure to address the economy (unemployment 14.7 % U6, 16 trillion national debt, record annual deficits, 47 million on food stamps, record low labor participation rate, middle class hit by reduction in median income of thousands of dollars)Oh and by the way, GM may be alive, but a huge portion after outsourcing to countries like CHINA of all places, and slowly sliding back into their old problems, and to the expense of those shareholders that did not profit from Union membership, and pensioners that got shafted in the process. GM is not alive and well, it’s dying again!
      - Total failure in foreign policy (Middle East, Russia, China, North Korea, and alienation of some European nations) Abandonment of Israel as an ally, or at very least not being a strong ally to them when they needed us most!
      - Failure to achieve success in Afghanistan and Iraq by premature troop withdrawals, possibly leading to the conclusion that lives lost of our soldiers there will have been for naught once Taliban and Al Quada regain their strength and positions there. Osama may be dead, but Al Quada is quite alive and gaining!
      - Ignoring again and again their oath to uphold our Constitution, to the point of Obama having said that he doesn’t appreciate the Constitution, and will ignore it if he has to.
      - Violations of the law or failure to uphold the laws: get ready for more Black Panthers at your polling stations this year, folks! Violations of Right to Know laws by not providing information requested at all, or not within legally required timelines.
      - Making false promises and providing outright lies!
      - Setting back our country with respect to racism by a few decades by a policy of racial division again and again (Cambridge Professor, Florida “Hoodie” murder victim, “put you back in shackles”, and so many more examples and how typical for a community organizer) Obama has been no better than Revs. Wright, Jackson and Sharpton.
      - Sorry, I ran out of time, but I’m sure you get the picture!

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    • fmrusmcrntxComment by fmrusmcrntx
      October 10, 2012 @ 12:26 pm

      AMEN “middleground” & “agent007″! I never thought I’d live to see the day when our country would be so devolved that the electorate in 2008 would put into POWER (what this arrogant Marxist-Socialist radical lives on) such a DESPICABLE charlatan! We can fix this in November! And if we WIN (we MUST), the right thing to do would be to file charges of treason against THE LIARS Obozo, Hillary, and of course Eric Holder. They don’t deserve to “just go home” when they LOSE, they deserve a LONG TIME in jail! Keep the faith, folks! As Todd Beamer, the American Hero of 9/11/2001 said—”Let’s Roll”! Semper Fi, God Bless America, Keep Her Free and Strong!

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    • mredComment by mred
      October 10, 2012 @ 6:40 pm

      fmrusmcrntx;

      I agree with what you said, but you forgot something. You said “arrogant Marxist-Socialist radical” and I couldn’t agree more, but you forgot the main one. MUSLIM. If you add that and then think about it, all of this makes sense. We have a Muslim in the White House and he is not about to do anything to hurt the Muslim cause. He has continually bent over backwards to help them in any way he can. Using this poor guy that made that movie was just a cover-up for the real action and I think they had been looking for an excuse to use this guy to hang something on. Obama has done nothing but advance the Muslim cause and has gone so far as to add quite a number of Muslim Brotherhood to the rolls of the federal government and had some put in very sensitive positions. Homeland security anyone?? The only thing this man deserves come November is a jail cell. He has sold this country out and will continue to do so if he is re-elected. Hillary seems to be right in there with him on everything he does, so if she loves his Muslim religion so much as to follow him anywhere, then she can follow him to jail too. Just remember, a Muslim can tell any lie to an infidel and it means nothing to them or their religion. Lying or anything else to an infidel is not only acceptable, but expected. When is this country going to wake up to what is going on??

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  7. librabobComment by librabob
    October 10, 2012 @ 11:27 am

    The incompetency of the Obama administration cost the lives of these four brave American’s in Benghazi. Yet, we hear nothing from the media, no hard questions about the lack of security at that post or about the White House cover-up that followed. Just business as usual inside the oval office. Also, we have a dead Border Patrol Agent in Arizona killed by a weapons supplied by our government to a Mexican drug cartel. Where was the outrage from the public and any serious media inquiries? Why was this brushed aside as a nothing, just business as usual in Washington. Lately we have seen more media coverage and outrage from the left over Big Bird’s possible loss of public funding than was previously given to the death’s of Americans caused by Obama’s incompetency. It is nothing short of disgusting.

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    • fmrusmcrntxComment by fmrusmcrntx
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:24 pm

      Sadly, you’re absolutely correct, “librabob”! I’ve never been so DISGUSTED in my life as I have been this past 3 years and 9 months! But, not only is this administration INCOMPETENT, they’re radical Marxist-Socialist DESPICABLE LIARS & totally CORRUPT! Many of these LOWLIFES are already calling Rep. Paul Ryan a “liar” in the upcoming VP debate tomorrow night…and it ain’t even taken place yet! :( This speaks volumes about what they ARE and what they represent. As “bna42″ so correctly said earlier today, we MUST “take out the trash on November 6th!”. Failure ain’t an option if we’re to keep our country as it was founded and has prospered since 1776! Keep the faith, Semper Fi! From an ornery & very angry ol’ Marine in TX, USA who was/is proud to serve this nation! :)

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    • tedinpdxComment by tedinpdx
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:38 pm

      Bob, you really nailed it with the Big-Bird thing. I’m not sure which is worse, Obama, or the utterly corrupt so-called ‘journalists’ who cover for him. If a Republican President had done a fraction of the things Obama has done over the last 45 months, the impeachment would have taken place long ago, and Nancy Pelosi would be the Shrieking-*****-In-Chief by now.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 10, 2012 @ 2:00 pm

      “. . . the impeachment would have taken place long ago, and Nancy Pelosi would be the Shrieking-*****-In-Chief by now.”

      Ted, the impeachment would have placed Joe Biden in the Oval Office, not Pelosi.

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    • librabobComment by librabob
      October 10, 2012 @ 2:21 pm

      From a former recon corpsman VN 1968, Semper Fi back at you fmrusmcrntx and thank you for your service.

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  8. Jota_Comment by Jota_
    October 10, 2012 @ 11:52 am

    Ok, here is shoe number two

    What else are they imagining about the Middle East and ignoring the facts?

    The organizational structure in the countries which were part of the Arab Spring are up for grabs, and Obama and the liberal press are engaged in self deception by telling each other what the other wants to hear.

    This incident in Libya serves to show they are without a clue.

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  9. BeemergrannyComment by Beemergranny
    October 10, 2012 @ 11:53 am

    This is just tragic. This cover-up is just another in a long list of policies of the Obama administration that has been the culmination of a totally inept, un-vetted, President. What is also disgraceful to me is the fact that Mrs. Clinton was on the news shortly after the tape of the murdered Ambassador being drug through the streets had been on the internet and on some news shows, and she claimed that the protesters were “helping the Ambassador to the hospital”. Hillary needs to resign TODAY and an independent counselor needs to be investigating the State Department AND the President. This is a disgrace, plain and simple. Very disturbing with all of these facts coming to light now, that these people have been in charge of our Nation and our National security for the past four years. They have no clue what they are doing. The President was a disaster as a Senator when he was in the Illinois State House and he is a disaster now. Conservatives in Illinois knew this years ago. No one asked and no one cared what his record was. The Chicago Machine put him in the State House and touted him as the be-all-end-all to the worlds problems. That was a stepping stone to his being elected a Senator to represent our State in Washington and he did NOTHING for the State of Illinois in Washington. As soon as he was elected national Senator, he began running for President. WE THE PEOPLE deserve so much more. I hope we can turn this around. The Conservatives of this country better rise up and demand that our law makers start governing w/common sense and a hunger for making this nation one that can be a light to the world again. Scary times are ahead if we don’t.

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    • rustypatComment by rustypat
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:06 pm

      IMPEACH OBAMA !

      While his inept record is not an impeachable offense, his lies to Congress, the Country, his lack of allegiance and diligence to his duties are. I’m guessing that because of the votes needed for impeachment, Congress is hoping that he’ll lose the election first. But, should he win because of the “kool-aid” the voters have been drinking, there needs to be a full on effort to remove him from office should November fail to do so. Our country cannot be forced to endure another four years of Obama. at least Nixon had the dignity and care for the country to recognize that his wrong doing was something that he would be held accountable for. I do not see Obama serving 8 years as President, even if he is re-elected. I just hope that we can minimize the additional damage along the way to his removal.

      As a conservative in Illinois … while he was campaigning for election to the Senate (which of course he didn’t even serve a complete term), I predicted the “machine” would make him President, without him ever doing anything of merit to such a position. Sometimes I really HATE being right.

      Obama-Nation is an Abomination

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:30 pm

      “I’m guessing that because of the votes needed for impeachment, Congress is hoping that he’ll lose the election first.”

      Rusty, I have often had the same thought. The House has authority to impeach, but they need a 2/3 majority. The Senate would conduct the trial and their ruling requires a 2/3 majority.

      I have contacted Congress critters on several occasions about impeachment when Obama violated federal laws, and the only thing I can imagine is that the GOP knows they do not have the votes to pull it off and they don’t want to cause the chaos that would ensue. BUT we need to make certain that Republicans take control of both houses of Congress with such a majority that IF Obama is re-elected he can be removed by impeachment.

      Regardless if Obama loses in November or is impeached shortly thereafter, there will probably be bloodshed, so we need to prepare for it.

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    • fmrusmcrntxComment by fmrusmcrntx
      October 10, 2012 @ 1:30 pm

      Very good comments “Beemergranny” & “rustypat”! Thank you. Here’s the problem, rustypat. In order to actually IMPEACH and CONVICT this arrogant, lying radical Marxist-Socialist, we must have a majority in the US Senate. Hopefully in this election we’ll not only remove him from office and replace him with a true LEADER, but also gain enough Senate seats to have a majority. At which point we can proceed against what you so clearly say is a REAL ABOMINATION! Keep the faith! Semper Fi! :)

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    • fmrusmcrntxComment by fmrusmcrntx
      October 10, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

      Thanks “bna42″ for your very good comment. However, the impeachment process only requires a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to CONVICT. The House can vote to impeach with a simple majority. Therein lies the problem. :( With the current house majority, we could easily obtain a “vote to impeach”. But to convict this “Obamanation” we’d have to have at least 67 votes. Hopefully (trying to be an optimist here), some of the Dems would vote with the GOP Senators to CONVICT.

      As for the “bloodshed”, we don’t want that. But IF THEY DO, then I say “bring it on”! Guess who’ll win that fight? Actually it’s a no-brainer…..WE WOULD! Unlike us, the other side HATES both our military and guns. Nevertheless, hopefully we’ll not have that situation occur. But if it does, I’d rather it happen sooner than later….us “old guys” have already BTDT. But, let’s hope it don’t come to that. Thanks again for your service to our nation and your patriotism, support & encouragement! Semper Fi! :)

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    • txpatriot54Comment by txpatriot54
      October 10, 2012 @ 2:47 pm

      Oh, i do believe they do have a clue of what they are doing. And it’s noaccident that the country is faling apart . All are complicit . Repubs and dems.

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    • mredComment by mred
      October 10, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

      Just because you impeach the President, doesn’t mean he will leave office. Bill Clinton proved that. You must bring charges against him and put him on trial to actually remove him from office. I personally think that is kind of stupid, but that is the system as it stands now. This one should have been impeached, tried and put in jail a long time ago and he can take Hillary with him too.

      This Congress has proven just what can go wrong with life positions and why they need to have limits put on them. We need a Congress that is for America and not building their power base and controlling everything that goes on in government. They get so arrogant and corrupt that nothing but term limits can come close to controlling them. 60 years in office is so wrong that it should never be allowed and they are proving this point every day. None of the new people can get anything done unless they get enough of the population behind them that they have to listen. Thees day it is almost impossible to get their attention unless you beat them over the head with a petition drive and get enough signatures so they must listen. Something as simple as bringing a bill to the floor for a vote may require a petition drive just so they will vote on that bill. No matter how bad that bill may be needed, if they don’t want it to go through, someone like Harry Reid can stop it just on his own authority. That is so wrong for one person to have that much power that he can stop any bill he doesn’t like. It’s time to remove more then just Obama from office…………

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 10, 2012 @ 7:50 pm

      “This one should have been impeached, tried and put in jail a long time ago and he can take Hillary with him too.”

      I agree with the concept, BUT impeachment can not get him in jail because the Constitution says that impeachment shall not go farther than removal from office. After he is removed from office and becomes a private citizen, then charges could be brought against him for some of the criminal activities he has committed.

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    • mredComment by mred
      October 11, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

      bna42 I agree, you must remove his from office before you can bring him to trial, but you have to bring charges against him to remove him. Just an impeachment by itself does not do that. He must be removed and I think I said that.

      Bill Clinton was impeached, but no charges were brought and nothing was said after the impeachment and he stayed in office. He is a total disgrace. After he was impeached he has the nerve to tell everyone to kiss off and then goes on about his business like nothing has happened. Why not? No one really cared what he did. The women loved him and to them he could do no wrong.

      It’s really sad when a President can be impeached and nothing is done to him. That all by itself should remove him from office, but it does not. It would seem that today’s politicians do just enough to keep the people happy and no more, The rest of the time they are working for themselves instead of looking out for the countries best interest.

      I think it is time we throw every one of them out of office and put new people in there. We need to put term limits on them so they do not stay in office almost their whole life building their power base so it is almost impossible to touch them………..

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 11, 2012 @ 11:05 pm

      “Bill Clinton was impeached, but no charges were brought and nothing was said after the impeachment and he stayed in office.”

      mred, I think we agree but it’s a matter of semantics. Yes, charges WERE brought against Clinton and that was the basis for the House issuing articles of impeachment. The problem was that Democrats had control of the Senate and they had the responsibility of determining Clinton’s punishment. The Democrats were not going to throw their own man out of office, but there had to be a pretense of punishment, so Clinton agreed to give up his law license for five years and that was their way out.

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  10. tedinpdxComment by tedinpdx
    October 10, 2012 @ 1:52 pm

    In my view, the reason there are no calls for impeachment is that it would have the effect of (in a sense) dissing the electorate. As long as these facts are made public, it’s really up to the voters to decide whether or not they merit removing him from office.

    The most disturbing thing about this election is the fact that it’s even close. We are approaching a tipping point where the voters who are either ignorant, or have a financial interest in keeping Obama in office, outnumber the responsible critical-thinkers.

    A strong, stable and prosperous United States is the pillar upon which the global economy (and comity amongst nations) depends. If Obama is re-elected, it will be a catastrophe not only for this country, but for the entire world.

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    • billwvComment by billwv
      October 10, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

      tedinpdx: What you say in your comment makes me think on a biblical scenario which could very easily play out the last time world ending. I’m just associating Bible prophesy and how nations will be aligned. Very interesting!

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  11. nickster99Comment by nickster99
    October 10, 2012 @ 3:12 pm

    On leaving the White House January 20th Obama should be seized and arrested immediately and put on trial for High Treason for all he illegal activities he has committed in the last 4 years!

    I just wonder if it can somehow it can be done to him. He truly deserves it!

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      October 10, 2012 @ 3:19 pm

      You all should find this interesting!

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

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    • rustypatComment by rustypat
      October 10, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

      Interesting read @ ring …

      I would like for someone to ask Obama directly if allah is his god?

      Don’t ask if he believes in Christ or other such questions. Satan believes in Christ. But by asking him directly if allah is his god, he must either say yes in order to affirm his faith to allah, or he must denounce allah as his god by not saying yes.

      Putting him in the cross-hairs of man allows him to wiggle around all day long as he practices continued deception. Instead, put him in the cross-hairs of his god and watch him squirm between trying to deceive people without denouncing allah.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 10, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

      “But by asking him directly if allah is his god, he must either say yes in order to affirm his faith to allah, or he must denounce allah as his god by not saying yes.”

      Rusty, don’t forget that the Quran teaches that it is OK to lie to infidels, so Obama’s covered when he lies to us.

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    • mredComment by mred
      October 11, 2012 @ 10:28 pm

      Personally I think he should have been impeached and charges brought against him for treason along with Hillary and a few others quite some time ago. It’s not to late to impeach him, but this Congress will not do a thing to him. He still has not shown any records he is required to show for him to be in office and he should be removed for that too. Handing in a forged birth certificate should be enough to get him thrown in jail just for that, but this Congress does nothing. They just sit there on their hands and let him get away with anything he wants.

      I am sick and tired of this government doing what they want and not what the people want or what is best for the country. Obama has done so many things that he should have been removed for, yet nothing is done.

      Several states have tried to keep him from running in their state unless he shows the proper documents and what does he do? He sicks the Justice department against them. Is this the actions of a politician, or a criminal? Obama belongs in jail, not the White House…………..

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  12. Bob StewartComment by Bob Stewart
    October 10, 2012 @ 6:23 pm

    Obama and Benghazi

    A drone strike killed Abu Yahya al- Libi in Pakistan
    Given Barack Obama’s fetish to apologize to our enemies, it is my thoughts that, “The Apologizer And Chief” asked Libya if they would accept his apology for killing al Qaeda No. 2 leader, who was from Libya. I think the Libyans said no, but will trade blood for blood. Ambassador Chris Stephens was that blood. Obama provide the cover, by not allowing security for the Consulate in Libya.
    The movie trailer Innocence of Muslims was probably found by one of Obama’s advisors and alerted him to watch it. Given Mr. Obama’s Islamic background training in Indonesia, he was the one who was outraged and used it to cover his trade.

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