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Bill Nye, 'The Science Guy', fights against creation beliefs

By Dylan Lovan

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - The man known to a generation of Americans as "The Science Guy" is condemning efforts by some Christian groups to cast doubts on evolution and lawmakers who want to bring the Bible into science classrooms.

Bill Nye, a mechanical engineer and star of the popular 1990s TV show "Bill Nye The Science Guy," has waded into the evolution debate with an online video that urges parents not to pass their religious-based doubts about evolution on to their children.

Nye has spent a career teaching science to children and teens with good-natured and sometimes silly humor, but has not been known to delve into topics as divisive as evolution.

Christians who view the stories of the Old Testament as historical fact have come to be known as creationists, and many argue that the world was created by God just a few thousand years ago.

"The Earth is not 6,000 or 10,000 years old," Nye said in an interview with The Associated Press, citing scientists' estimates that it is about 4.5 billion years old. "It's not. And if that conflicts with your beliefs, I strongly feel you should question your beliefs."

Millions of Americans do hold those beliefs, according to a June Gallup poll that found 46 percent of Americans believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago.

Nye, 56, also decried efforts in recent years by lawmakers and school boards in some states to present Bible stories as an alternative to evolution in public schools. Tennessee passed a law earlier this year that protects teachers who let students criticize evolution and other scientific theories. That echoes a Louisiana law passed in 2008 that allows teachers to introduce supplemental teaching materials in science classes.

"If we raise a generation of students who don't believe in the process of science, who think everything that we've come to know about nature and the universe can be dismissed by a few sentences translated into English from some ancient text, you're not going to continue to innovate," Nye said in a wide-ranging telephone interview.

The brief online video was not Nye's first foray into the combustible debate, but "it's the first time it's gotten to be such a big deal."

"I can see where one gets so caught up in this (debate) that you say something that will galvanize people in a bad way, that will make them hate you forever," he said. "But I emphasize that I'm not questioning someone's religion — much of that is how you were brought up."

In the video he tells adults they can dismiss evolution, "but don't make your kids do it. Because we need them." Posted by Big Think, an online knowledge forum, the clip went viral and has 4.6 million views on YouTube. It has garnered 182,000 comments from critics and supporters.

It drew the ire of the creationism group Answers in Genesis, which built a biblically based Creation Museum in Kentucky that teaches the stories of the Old Testament and has attracted headlines for its assertion that dinosaurs roamed alongside Adam and Eve.

The group produced a response video featuring two scientists who say the Bible has the true account of Earth's origins, and that "children should be exposed to both ideas concerning our past."

Nye, who is prone to inject dry humor into scientific discussions, said Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

"What I find troubling, when you listen to these people ... once in a while I get the impression that they're not kidding," Nye said.

Ken Ham, a co-founder of Answers in Genesis, said dating methods used by scientists to measure the age of the earth are contradictory and many don't point to millions or billions of years of time.

"We say the only dating method that is absolute is the Word of God," Ham said. "Time is the crucial factor for Bill Nye. Without the time of millions of years, you can't postulate evolution change."

America is home to the world's biggest creationist following, Ham said, and the $27 million Creation Museum has averaged about 330,000 visitors a year since it opened just south of Cincinnati in 2007.

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  1. NewsWatcherComment by NewsWatcher
    September 24, 2012 @ 12:42 pm

    “What I find troubling, when you listen to these people … once in a while I get the impression that they’re not kidding,” Nye said.

    First off .. I am not kidding .. I really believe it. It is my RIGHT to do so. Just as it is others RIGHT to believe differently (that is the way it IS .. at least in a FREE society.)

    What I find disturbing is that the self-proclaimed philosophical “learned” elitists feel they have any “right” to tell others how to raise their children. THIS is what this country is coming to .. and this election is .. an election for a free country or tyrannically governed people.

    We saw this in the leftist, elitist reaction to a recent Kirk Cameron interview on Piers Morgan .. he was asked what he would say “to one of his children” if they told him they were gay .. that is how the question was asked. AND he was castigated for his answer.

    No, you are no longer allowed to speak your views .. you are no longer allowed to teach your own children .. unless of course you are a liberal elitist with their same views.

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    • fallschComment by fallsch
      September 24, 2012 @ 1:01 pm

      Well put. I was going to pose as slightly different angle by asking him not to pass his views on to his children because we need them but you did a much better job of it.

      Liberals can’t seem to understand that insulting people is not a good way to recruit people. Using simple minded peer pressure rarely works.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 24, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

      You may “need” my children, Bill Nye, but you aren’t going to get them. The reason you need them is because a lot of scientists are also questioning evolution. Darwin himself questioned it at the end of his life. The evidence that he thought would be discovered simply wasn’t there. Of course, the hard-core atheist scientists that can’t defend evolution have moved on to aliens from other planets putting us here.

      You would think scientists would heed the lesson of Occam’s razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Complex machines require a creator. They don’t create themselves. There is no machine more complex than a human being.

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    • teryn0069Comment by teryn0069
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:10 pm

      Newswatcher, you and the others are just like the ones you dispise. You are trying to stuff YOUR religious views on others. Its a two way street, buddy. I cant stand to hear people saying that evolution did not happen when the proof is staring them in the face.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

      When your comment contains multiple errors in spelling and punctuation, one has to question your expertise in matters of science. Clearly you haven’t spent a lot of time studying grammar. Am I to assume it was because you used all of your time studying science? I actually have a degree in Biology.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:12 pm

      Txgoatlady: I wouldn’t worry about it because it is clear that teryn has had a public school “educaton”. In public schools, students don’t get taught how to read properly, spell, cursively write, or solve simple mathematical problems without a calculator. So, teryn is a typical product of a public school “education”. He/she probably got free lunches, too!

      First of all, the THEORY of evolution is just that–and it is a poor one at that. Any scientific theory must be held to the scientific method in order to determine if the hypothesis is valid or not. Evolution cannot be held to the test of the scientific method because you can’t experiment–there is no control group and no experimental group. You can’t repeat it (thank God!), and there is no real scientific evidence that the universe is billions of years old. This is all speculation by “scientists” who are, for the most part, atheists. It started with Darwin, but he also had the help from two other contemporaries: Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. All three were avowed atheists–therefore, they had a personal interest in “proving” that God does not exist. Evolution “scientists” have to uphold their false theory at all costs–and that means indoctrinating children with their “religion” (The Church of Secular Humanism) that we all came from pond scum and therefore everything is relative (a form of nihilism). There are many prominent scientists today who are absolutely convinced that creation has an Intelligent Designer. You’d have to be brain-dead not to see it. These so-called scientists reject and even persecute ID scientists. Everyone: Do yourself a favor and go rent Ben Stein’s video “Expelled: No intelligence allowed.” It will shock you into coherence.

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    • canative454Comment by canative454
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

      @teryn0069 – And exactly what proof is that? Evolution is still a theory without any proof to substantiate its validity. Show me the proof that it is nothing more than a theory.

      And as far as Bill Nye is concerned he is another typical non-believing pseudo-scientist that doesn’t even hold the theory of evolution to the same standards that he is holding creationism, because if he did he would have to discount the validity of evolution.

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  2. nickster99Comment by nickster99
    September 24, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

    This is still the United States and anybody should be able to believe anything they want to believe! Anyway they want to believe it! Most children learn from school or their parents about religion and as they grow older most will make up their own mind on what and how to believe. You can speak your views as you like but never, never tell me that what I believe is wrong!

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    • teryn0069Comment by teryn0069
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:11 pm

      Amen Nickster

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      September 25, 2012 @ 1:19 pm

      No body can prove or disprove evolution or creation. We believe in evolution because we can prove by scientific process and testing that the earth is approx. 4.5 billion years old. We believe that God created man but do we really know what year or how many years ago it was? No we don’t! I for one do not believe it was 6000 years! I love to read the bible but I do not believe it all word for word. We believe through faith that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead! Remember his own words. “blessed are those who believe but have not seen”. I believe the earth, the stars and galaxies were all part of gods plan. They are there we can see them!

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  3. billwvComment by billwv
    September 24, 2012 @ 1:28 pm

    Bill Nye has a ‘right’ to his ‘theory opinion’ but he has no right to ‘make up’ his own facts about ‘evolution’. The age of the earth and the creation of man [by God] are not necessarily one and the same. It is very possible that the earth was here for a long, long time BUT according to the Bible the creation of man took place just some 6,000 years ago. [Speaking of Adam, of course]. And did it ever dawn on the [so-called scientist] that God was capable of creating a universe that had ‘age’ incorporated? [I guess it is as a saying I have heard: “Did it ever occur to you that nothing EVER occurred to God?”
    The Almighty is All-Knowing.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

      The answer to the question “Which came first, the chicken or the egg?” is an easy question for a believer to answer! The earth was created old – and the chicken came first!

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    • CarmineComment by Carmine
      September 25, 2012 @ 2:12 pm

      Actually the egg came first. That was the statement made by a biologist many years ago. It was on a TV science show. I don’t remember who she was or what show it was on, but the statement stuck with me for some reason. What she said was, “A pre-chicken laid a mutated egg”. I’m serious, you can’t make this stuff up.

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  4. Robert PeaseComment by Robert Pease
    September 24, 2012 @ 1:49 pm

    Why is it that everyone has to have a label. I am what you would refer to as a conservative, and yet I don’t believe everything that they say a conservative should believe in. I don’t believe the same way as to abortion. I don’t believe the same way as to creationism. I’ll accept evolution until someone comes along to prove otherwise. I don’t believe we should teach religion in public schools. That’s why we have churches. So now what am I? Am I a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative? I also believe the ACLU goes overboard trying to wipe out every religious thing in government. This nation was founded on Christian principals, regardless of what some idiots claim. Basically we are a Christian nation regardless of what religion you are or even if you are an atheist. As long as the government doesn’t promote one religion over another, I see no problem listing the 10 commandments on a government building that has been there for over a 100 years. And I don’t even consider myself a Christian.

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    • teryn0069Comment by teryn0069
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

      No, but it sounds like you may be a conformist. I will NOT blindly be led by people who think they know better than me.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:43 pm

      Robert, I would have written that same comment if you hadn’t beaten me to it. You would almost think I was an atheist except I don’t have any problem at all with crosses on public property, or other displays of religious expression as long as they don’t denigrate other religions. I should add that I don’t consider Islam a religion worthy of protection by the US Constitution because it stands in direct opposition to all other religions regarding tolerance and violence.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:02 pm

      Terryn69, won’t you believe anyone else who knows more than you? If by saying “they know better than me” you mean “they are smarter than me,” It’s a sure thing that Bill Nye knows better than you.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:27 pm

      Robert: No one will EVER be able to prove evolution. If the past 500 years has not found a single “missing link” it will never be found. I find it takes a greater act of “faith” to believe that everything in this perfectly ordered universe came from chaos and chance, than it does to believe an Infinite Being created everything from nothing with perfect order, harmony, and purpose.

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    • canative454Comment by canative454
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:41 pm

      @teryn0069 seems to me that you are being blindly led by the theory of evolution.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:56 pm

      sexysadie, new archeological evidence is being unearthed every day. Most of the physical evidence has been discovered in the last 150 years. Yet, you say nothing new will be found! Your faith is fine, but faith “proves” nothing.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 5:34 pm

      Mach: I am a science teacher and yes, there have been archeological finds, but NONE which provide any weight or proof of evolution. If you have proof, then please cite your sources. Here is some scientific proofs FOR ID: From astronomy we have Galactic Redshifts and “Hubble’s Law,” the phenomenon whereby galaxies appear to be moving away from the Earth at speeds roughly proportional to their distance. This observation suggests that our universe is expanding outward. Scientists have extrapolated this expansion backwards through time and found that our universe appears to have popped into existence suddenly, from nowhere and for reasons unknown. It appears that our universe had a definite beginning.

      From physics we have the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The Second Law says that our universe is constantly and irreversibly going from a state of order to disorder. It is as if someone wound up a clock that is now slowly unwinding. Not only did the universe begin suddenly, it has been “winding down” ever since. The fact that it was wound up in the first place contrary to the Laws of Thermodynamics is often interpreted as evidence AGAINST evolution. Darwin’s theory is based upon the supposition that in evolution, life goes from primitive life forms to more complex life forms. However, this flies in the face of reality because life and the universe is DE-volving–becoming decayed and falling apart.

      Let’s take this a step further. Charles Darwin wrote, “Lastly, looking not to any one time, but to all time, if my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking closely together all the species of the same group, must assuredly have existed. But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?” (Origin of Species, 1859). Since Darwin put forth his theory, scientists have sought fossil evidence indicating past organic transitions. Nearly 150 years later, there has been no evidence of transition found thus far in the fossil record. ALL, repeat ALL of the so-called transitional homosapiens have been declared scientifically as frauds. That doesn’t mean that the skeletal remains are not real. What it means is that in every single case, the skeletal remains are either of 100% homosapien or 100% non-homosapien. This is not just a fact of mammalian life, but includes ALL life: animals AND plants. If you doubt me, google it. Check out Teilhard de Chardin–an amateur paleontologist, amateur archeologist, and heretical Catholic priest. He supposedly “discovered” an ancient transitional homosapien-ape tooth. It turned out that it was nothing more than a pig/hog tooth which had been dyed to look very old and shaved in order to look more like a missing link. There are countless other hoaxes and frauds. But, you’ll never see an evolutionist admit those.

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  5. bobvansComment by bobvans
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:14 pm

    It is obvious he hasn’t read a Bible. The Bible doesn’t say anything about the world being created 3,000 years ago.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:05 pm

      The Bible doesn’t give a number of years, that is being done by people who try to calculate the years by interpreting the “begets” in the Book of Numbers.

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  6. ringComment by ring
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:16 pm

    Hello Campers,

    I am a retired adult education instructor who had to present Darwin’s theory of evolution as a subject in the classroom. When somebody has an idea about how something happened or came about it’s called a hypothesis. If the hypothesis is developed and expanded with documentation and research it can become a theory.

    Then if enough evidence is amassed it can become a law. It’s Darwin’s THEORY not LAW of evolution. Can we not treat it as such? I do not think any teacher presenting Darwin’s theory told the students that
    they had to believe it!

    Now we can’t be bringing religion into the public schools due to the “separation of church and state” that’s why we have private and church schools is it not?

    I had a geology professor who was a devout Christian. He thought that God had created a fully “grown” earth. In other words the earth went through all the geologic processes we can observe happening today like erosion, volcanoes and such during the week God took to build it.

    My classes were held on numerous Native Reserves or Indian Reservations in the US, Canada and the NWT. Those various peoples have “creation myths” as the white man refers to them and Native beliefs that vary considerably concerning the earth and man’s creation.

    Personally my hypothesis is that earth was a prison planet where humans from various races and planets were left for punishment. The punishment being that they were put here without any tools of their technology and had to survive off the land like we are probably going to have to learn ourselves if things do not change for the better.

    Ring in Terlingua, Texas

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    • teryn0069Comment by teryn0069
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

      Although I am not a Christian, Ring, I do agree with your last paragraph. Its a chilling thought, but strange things are a brewing.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:20 pm

      As a child, I remember Darwin’s theory being taught as fact, and being assured that humans did evolve from monkeys. As a homeschooling mom, when I presented the origin of the earth, primordial soup and all that, my kids looked at me in disbelief. I did make them learn all the details, but the complexity of creation refutes macroevolution theory, even a child who is encouraged to critically reason can see that.

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  7. sunnyarizonaComment by sunnyarizona
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

    Billy Nye is deceived. He obviously doesn’t realize that the Earth and Sun and Solar system would be all GONE as we know them, if the Universe were over 4.5 billion years old.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:48 pm

      sunny, you have no idea of the stupidity of your comment. Try getting some education.

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    • xman3Comment by xman3
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

      Sunnyarizona: Current thought is the Universe is some 14-15 billion years old and our sun and solar system are some 4-5 billion years old. Judging from the elements in our solar system, our sun and planets, and us, etc. are the product of two past star super-nova explosions (heavier elements created by nuclear fusion from Hydrogen and Helium). Think of it as our sun is the third star creation in this part of the Universe.

      Now early Venus and Earth were ‘sister planets’ made up of the ‘same stuff’, simular size and gravity (ability to hold a gas atmosphere, vs. the moon, and Mars with little atmosphere). The end result of these two ‘sister planets’ is quite different. Here on earth, there have been a number of ‘life ages’, the most recent that of the dinosaur, before the appearance of ‘man’.

      I would vote that creationism and evolution are BOTH responsible for life of earth as we see it today. Who is to say that evolution is not part of God’s plan?

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    • prairelivingComment by praireliving
      September 24, 2012 @ 6:21 pm

      Mach37:
      It is a scientific fact that the sun is getting slightly hotter every year. Given this fact, if we extrapolate back millions or billions of years (as many scientists suggest our earth is in age) it shows that the sun would not have been hot enough to heat the earth to a level that would sustain plant and animal life. How exactly are they going to explain away that inconvenient truth?

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    • canada3dayerComment by canada3dayer
      September 24, 2012 @ 11:23 pm

      prairieliving, if the sun has been getting slightly hotter for years, then I’d say it just took a while for it to be hot enough to heat the earth to a life-sustainable level. think of it as pre-heating the oven… :)

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 25, 2012 @ 1:49 am

      praireliving, it is NOT a scientific fact the sun is getting hotter, depending on what your source of information is. A lot of reports from 1997 (15 years ago!) say it is, but more recent reports say it isn’t. Technology for determining the sun’s temperature is constantly improving, so I’ll go with the more recent figures. Of course no one knows what happened before writing came along roughly 4,000 years ago, but study of fossilized records of plants, and sediment and rock layers gives us some clues. In the future more accurate ways of determining the past will be developed, helped along by such things as studying the geology of Mars.

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  8. mach37Comment by mach37
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:21 pm

    #1, the Bible and religion is based on FAITH, not SCIENCE. The bible does not belong in a science classroom. Every reputable scientist will tell you that scientific theory is based on provable evidence, not FAITH. Every individual is free to follow their own religion or faith, in the USA, but faith has no standing when it comes to denying scientific evidence that is based on repeatable experiments that prove a theory to be more likely true than false. For example, nobody has ever seen an atom, but the existence of atomic bombs has proven that atomic theory is correct. Evolution may not have the spectacular proof that the atom has, but it has more proof than Creation Theory has.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:36 pm

      Believing that a perfectly ordered universe with purpose and cause, came from chaos and chance takes a greater act of faith than believing in an Intelligent Designer Who created everything from nothing. So much for your “religion vs.state” argument.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:04 pm

      sadie, where did you get that I was arguing “religion vs state?” What does that even mean? If you meant “religion vs science” there is no comparison. Religion is based on “faith,” science is based on observation and repeatable tests. “Faith” does not require observation or tests. All you have to do is believe, without any proof.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:23 pm

      Sadie, I agree. And in addition, you can teach scientific creationism without mentioning a diety. The discussion of an all loving God belongs in church. Scientific creationism belongs alongside evolutionary theory, and the laws of thermodynamics.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

      Mach: You imply it by saying that science is based on evidence. Then, my question is, how do you explain the theory of evolution with no scientific FACTS?? To believe this, one must have FAITH in a scientific theory that has no scientific proof. Is this not what creationists are accused of? EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE ALWAYS TRUMPS THEORY. I believe there is more scientific proof of an Intelligent Design than that everything in a perfectly ordered universe came about by chaos and chance. Sorry if I didn’t make my point more clear.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 25, 2012 @ 1:59 am

      sexysadie, there is NO scientific proof of Intelligent Design (ID) because science is not involved in any of the arguments for ID that I have heard, only opinion and “belief.” There is also not as much proof of evolution as in theories that involve direct observation and tests, but a lot of INdirect observation and logical study of the evidence helps the theory. The only evidence for intelligent design, aside from faith, is conjecture and imagination.

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    • parks70Comment by parks70
      September 25, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

      Mach,

      You stated “There is also not as much proof of evolution as in theories that involve direct observation and tests, but a lot of INdirect observation and logical study of the evidence helps the theory. “The only evidence for intelligent design, aside from faith, is conjecture and imagination.” Let’s be honest here. There is absolutely ZERO scientific proof of evolution, zilch, notta. And the majority of indirect evidence as you put it leans towards intelligent design, not macro-evolution. In fact, when you use the tools of direct observation and logic, the case for ID is made even stronger while the case for evolution is destroyed. Tell me Mach, in your experience, if left to themselves, do material items become more complex, ordered and structured or do they break down and become less structured and more chaotic? Have you ever, ever seen anything that came into being that was a structured complex item without someone creating it? Name one thing. Just one. Look at the animals, the giraffe or insects like the bombardier beetle. Spend some time examining how complex these creatures are and what they need in order to survive. Look at the human eye. Look at one cell, at a strand of DNA. And you are going to tell me that you believe that all those things came into being from random nothingness, that they went from these simple, one celled organisms to these complex creatures and body parts by themselves? They just lined themselves up that way? In what other area of life do things go from a state of chaos to a state of structure and order BY THEMSELVES without someone or something intervening? That is the evidence based on logic and direct observation. All of which blows the theory of large scale macro-evolution out of the water. And you have the gall to tell people who believe in ID that they are basing their beliefs on imagination and speculation? Show some intellectual integrity and at least be honest about the debate. You sound like an intelligent person. I’m not saying you need to believe everything in the Bible or take it all literally but you have to admit that the evidence points to intelligent design, purposeful creation by someone or something.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 25, 2012 @ 2:35 pm

      Parks70; I agree there is no PROOF of evolution, but there is a lot of evidence. Show me some evidence for intelligent design that is more than belief, or faith. For me, the Bible is “belief,” not evidence. Those who try to argue for ID using geological evidence are just using conjecture, opinion, not proof.

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    • parks70Comment by parks70
      September 25, 2012 @ 3:23 pm

      Mach,

      First of all I love a good, honest, and healthy debate. So thanks for being willing to go back and forth without getting stupid about it. But, getting back to your reply to my reply, I gave you evidence that points to intelligent design in my post. Pick any “created” thing in the universe and look at the statistical odds of that thing coming into existence through some random process absent of a designer. The odds are beyond staggering. I’d have to go back and look it up but I believe the odds of the human eye alone coming into existence through a process absent an intelligent, purposeful designer is much greater than 10 to the 40th power. In the field of statistics if the likelihood of an event happening is greater than 10 to the 40th power they say it will never occur. The world around us is full of those kind of examples. I know this is extremely simplistic but if I tell you Im going to get you a cake, and I go out and buy all the necessary ingredients (which poses another problem for evolution, where did material involved in the “big bang” come from? where did the one celled organism in the slime come from? where did all of the atoms that make up our known universe come from? something doesnt appear from nothing . . . unless it is created). After buying all the ingredients I set them on the counter and wait . . . and wait . . . at some point you’d ask me what I was doing because you’d want your cake. If I were to tell you to be patient, that I the ingredients are just going to come together on their own, you’d tell me I was nuts. That is the essence of macro-evolution. That something magically came from nothing, without the help of an intelligent being, creature, whatever term you want to use.

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  9. Diana ZimmermanComment by Diana Zimmerman
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:23 pm

    People who believe n creationism are the same people who believed the earth is flat. If they are going to take the Bible literally, then they should still be stoning women. UGH!

    But then I guess a lot of people over the ages do not have the capacity to think for themselves.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:32 pm

      Please do your research. The church did NOT believe the earth was flat. That is a myth. The church and most of the population at the time did believe that the earth was a globe. The church believed Columbus had miscalculated the size of the earth and would run out of supplies before he reached his destination. In fact, he did not reach his intended destination.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

      goatlady, YOU do YOUR research first. Try Galileo for starters. I find nothing in the bible that says the Earth was a globe. Columbus came along long after the Bible was written.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

      Diana: You are pompous you-know-what. Typical marxist-commie leftie.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:25 pm

      New testament believers do not stone women. I do agree that many people do not think for themselves…possibly in part due to the government school system which teaches theory as fact, and discourages critical thinking in favor of “groupthink.”

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    • smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaamaComment by smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaama
      September 24, 2012 @ 5:23 pm

      Don’t worry, Ms. Zimmerman, the Muslims are ready and waiting to do that-the stoning you suggest should be done-to you along with the rest of the nation. In fact, they call us the Big Satan, Israel the Little Satan, and Satan is their enemy. Now, if you decide to join them it will not matter because you will still be stoned, if not beheaded, because you are what you are. I suggest you get your head screwed on straight because they are Nazis and even Nazis, according to the information that I have, died at the hands of their fellow Nazis. By the way, you had teachers along the way while you were growing up and it is blatantly obvious what they thought you to think=turn everyone into a cold, heartless, foul-mouthed, hateful, bitter, nation. So, since you have had teachers, you have been told what to think and they helped to form the opinions that you have just shared with millions of other people. Who is really thinking for themselves, Ms. ZimmerMan? Thank you for providing additional evidence to the rest of us that we need to continue feeling and caring. What is a Nazi: cold, calculating, belittling, pushy, nosy, criminal, murderous, those who like to see others stoned and hurt and dead and Ms. ZimmerMan.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      September 27, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

      And yet, Mach37, you find something in the Bible saying that the earth was flat? Please specify the chapter and verse. I love how people assume that ancient people were stupider than us then struggle to explain some of their creations.

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  10. Informing ChristiansComment by Informing Christians
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:25 pm

    Bill Nye has proved to be a real disappointment. Seeking to indoctrinate other people’s children with his antichrist beliefs is about as haughty as a heathen can get.

    Debra…
    Informing Christians Writer

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  11. BatmanComment by Batman
    September 24, 2012 @ 2:46 pm

    The bigger issue that he doesn’t seem to understand is that according to some scientists, the Earth can be very young at the same time as the Universe being very old, due to the theory of relativity.

    Read the book Genesis and The Big Bang for more on this.

    I’d post my amazon affiliate link, however, I’m not sure I can do that here…

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    • xman3Comment by xman3
      September 24, 2012 @ 3:26 pm

      You are on the right track, Batman. Current thought is the Universe is some 14-15 billion years old and our sun and solar system are some 4-5 billion years old. Judging from the elements in our solar system, our sun and planets, and us, etc. are the product of two past star super-nova explosions (heavier elements created by nuclear fusion from Hydrogen and Helium). Think of it as our sun is the third star creation in this part of the Universe.

      Now early Venus and Earth were ‘sister planets’ made up of the ‘same stuff’, simular size and gravity (ability to hold a gas atmosphere, vs. the moon, and Mars with little atmosphere). The end result of these two ‘sister planets’ is quite different. Here on earth, there have been a number of ‘life ages’, the most recent that of the dinosaur, before the appearance of ‘man’.

      I would vote that creationism and evolution are BOTH responsible for life of earth as we see it today. Who is to say that evolution is not part of God’s plan?

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  12. braines57Comment by braines57
    September 24, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

    Well, it looks as though those “aliens” dropped off a few of their recent “abductees” right here – go figure! Here is a newsflash for all you scientific types: Darwin himself questioned the validity of his own theory prior to his death. The reason? He could not account for the human eye. Ironically, the eye is considered to be the “window to the soul”. Probably a good reason his theory fell apart trying to figure it out. This is just one of the MANY gaping holes in his theory; yet, our children are not only taught the theory of evolution, they are taught that it has been validated, when the same “scientists” who try to tell them this know how many flaws there are with carbon dating and the other “scientific evidence” that has been used to support evolution, as well as the age of the Earth. The real reason these “scientists” don’t want Christian parents to teach their children the Bible is that they don’t want those children to question their faulty theories. Here is my message to Bill Nye and all of his supporters: I will NOT sacrifice my rights to my beliefs for you or anyone else, government or otherwise, and I WILL continue to express those beliefs not only to my children, but to others with whom I come into contact. I will also TEACH my children that they have a RIGHT and a DUTY to question any theory that is presented to them, as they have to be able to make their own INFORMED decisions and not rely on others.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:12 pm

      braines57 – Speaking scientifically, your last sentence is “right on.” That is what scientists do – question the theories, test them and make make INFORMED decisions. Test Creation Theory the same way you would atomic theory, for example; if possible. Believing in it is not the same as testing it.

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    • godsgirlComment by godsgirl
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:27 pm

      In addition, Richard Dawkins has been known to question evolution.

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  13. KAHR50Comment by KAHR50
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:01 pm

    Who is to say that evolution is not part of God’s plan?

    A thought to ponder – however we have yet to identify a single genetic evolutionary sequence.

    Most people have lost the distinction between the scientifically unproven ‘evolution’ of one species to another with the potentially proven theory of ‘adaptation’.

    The actual work of Darwin shows possible genetic adaptation through dilution of bad gene members in favor of good gene members. IE Survival of the fitest. From this he theorized the possibility of evolution.

    Good is defined by traits that make it possible to survive and bad is defined by traits that do not allow you to survive. A pride of toothless lions will die out and only toothed prides will propogate and survive. The toothed lions did not ‘evolove’ from toothless ones or vice versa. There was simply a genetic adaption within the species – in theory at least.

    I, for one, have seen way to many unbelieveable things in my own life to not believe in God – and a belief in God pre-disposes one to the belief of Creation.

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  14. maneshiaComment by maneshia
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:01 pm

    My anthropology professor used to say “If people evolved from apes, why do we still have apes?”

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:17 pm

      Your prof was not much of an anthropologist if he requires all lower forms to die out once higher forms come along. We still have single-celled amoeba, for example.

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    • sexysadieComment by sexysadie
      September 24, 2012 @ 5:53 pm

      THAT is precisely the argument. IF, as Darwin and other evolutionists claim, species “adapted” to IMPROVE the likelihood of survival and continuing the species, it would seem obvious to the amateur scientist that either the entire species changed or there was NO change (adaptation). Here’s an example: It is a fact that the Galapagos marine iguana is the ONLY iguana to live in water. Now that kind of adaptation I will agree on. However, the marine iguana is STILL an iguana. It adapted to an environment to which it could survive. It DID not morph into another species. Another example: in the case of interbreeding between species, the progeny is always asexual–it cannot produce a further progency. A horse and a donkey can produce a progeny called a mule. However, mules are asexual and cannot reproduce. That is a scientific FACT,

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    • maneshiaComment by maneshia
      September 24, 2012 @ 9:34 pm

      So um …Mach37, you have just been “duh”ed. Looks like we didn’t evolve from amoebas either did we????

      My anthrolopology professor also used to say “If you say something occurred more than a billion years ago, nobody can disprove it.” “Evolution is just a theory and nothing more.” “Where are all the billions of transitional fossils?”

      Sorry pumpkin, my professor was an exceptional anthrolopologist.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 25, 2012 @ 2:47 pm

      Maneshia: Just because the “billions of transitional fossils” haven’t been found doesn’t mean they don’t exist; they just haven’t been dug up yet. I will also say that transitional fossils aren’t required for evolution theory to be valid. After all, it is JUST a theory.

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  15. mnymoonsComment by mnymoons
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

    I think we humans just like to argue. I am a born again Christian, but haven’t ever seen the conflict between science and the Bible. The Bible says God created everything. To me that means He ceated everything – nature, science, etc. If one believes God is all powerful, then He could have chosen to either create our world in six 24-hour days or 4.5 billion years. He could also create it in six days and make it look like 4.5 billion years. Don’t think God operates on man’s timetable. Check Ps 90:1 and 2nd Peter 3:8. Those verses say 1,000 years is to God as a watch in the night, a day is as a thousand years and a 1,000 years as a day. Is that to be taken literally or as a metaphor ? I wonder how much stock we should put in the comments of learned scientists who have never studied the Bible or in the comments of learned theologians who have never studied science.

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 4:20 pm

      mnymoons, that is an excellent post. I agree with your view.

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  16. godsgirlComment by godsgirl
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:28 pm

    It is simply arrogant to think anyone has the answers.There is no proof, only belief systems!

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  17. lxusrComment by lxusr
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:42 pm

    It is amazing that a mechanical engineer now has such firm beliefs anchored in his unbending and wrong belief in so much that is not so. Any true scientist is knowledgable about the various debates going on about the accuracy of carbon dating methods or other methods of dating materials and acknowledges that new scientific methods are still in development to date materials. Nye is woefully ignorant of what actual creationists think . I believe he mislead the writer here in stating 10,000 years is the common belief for age of Earth , your own searching will find that a few thousand years off in accuracy. He asks to have parents not pass these religious beliefs to their children , in the interest of innovation and clear thinking yet The Bible clearly states that the Earth is a orb or globe ! This was known to Followers of the Bible long before so-called scientists gave up their belief that the Earth was flat ! The Bible also has many revelations showing Knowledge of biochemistry well in advance of modern discoveries. I emphatically advise that Mr. Nye and others are stifiling innovation and real learning by not researching before reaching their unchanging dogma . Grow up Nye ! Smell The Coffee ! Creationists believe in letting everyone have their viewpoint in the arena of thought , without calling for censorship like you and other closed minded Do ! Pls do quick lookup of formations dating related to traditional analysis of Mt. St. Helens excavations and what error was found using The ” modern ” methods of assessing strata formations revealed after a period of years in single digit category ! They used MODERN methods proven to be laughably in error , on a scale of several Nyes error !

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 5:53 pm

      lxusr says: “The Bible clearly states that the Earth is a orb or globe!” Well, that statement prompted me to look it up (it would have been great if you had given a source). In Isaiah 40:22 I find “the circle of the earth” in five different translations. Not clearly an “orb” or “globe.” But how about “knowledge of biochemistry” in the bible? Please, please give your source for that. And also your source for “They used MODERN methods … laughably in error.” Where do I find evidence of that?

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  18. John R GaryComment by John R Gary
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

    It is interesting that both creationist and evolutionist operate within the same basic premises – that of FAITH -for without faith both positions will not hold up under full review and analysis.

    For example to try and use the basic geological layers to explain evolution,does not hold up, since in different areas we find the layers completely reversed. To use the carbon dating to measure age again starts from a premise or faith that what is being used to as the base to begins ones argument is base on FAITH in the beginning premise.

    Therefore why are we so polarized – why not leave room for FAITH both in scientific investigation and belief in a higher power – GOD.

    Seems simple to me, it really only matters when one contemplates whether the hereafter exist.

    Pascals wager seems to let each one choose for themselves, for if there is no HIGHER POWER GOD, then at the end of life one looses nothing. BUT AND A BIG BUT… if God does exist and there is a hereafter, one stands to loose everything – so let the agnostics take there stand and those who believe in GOD take there stand, and why tray to convince others of your position,when even your position is based on FAITH – for faith is the substance of things hope for the evidence of things unseen.

    Before the electron microscope the Bibles account of creation was misunderstood – for the things that are seen are made of those things that are unseen – all matter is made up of Atoms – and were did the Atoms come from.

    Something from nothing still begs the question – where did it all start.

    The Bible does offer an one plausible answer, and for those who choose to reject it or better yet to harmonize it with evolutionist
    more power them.

    Either way it is a choice – it requires one to exercise their God given right to make an individual choice.

    For a Believe in that God in the beginning created.

    John Gary

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    • Bill from MiddletownComment by Bill from Middletown
      September 24, 2012 @ 8:47 pm

      Dude, read you post before you post it. You may have had some good points, but you sound like a drunk with your spelling and grammar.

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    • camzComment by camz
      September 24, 2012 @ 10:27 pm

      Now that’s funny. Some fool that starts his post with “Dude” criticizes another’s perfectly stated post.

      DUDE, take a really long nap.

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    • Bill from MiddletownComment by Bill from Middletown
      September 25, 2012 @ 7:56 am

      Obviously, Gary had time to edit his post after I commented. Had you seen it before, you would have noted the obvious grammatical errors. You’re welcome, Gary; I saved you some embarrassment!

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  19. smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaamaComment by smthnsmllsnthewhthowsmstbobaaaama
    September 24, 2012 @ 4:58 pm

    Mr. Nye, why are you and your kind explaining everything away, after tearing it all apart. Why is it that YOU are so obsessed with everything God made and are still working to con anyone who will listen into believing that He could not possibly exist? What use is your knowledge? Did you not hear from God? He said, “MY PEOPLE die for lack of knowledge.” Should they continue to follow those who are disobedient, such as yourself, although they have been left just enough evidence that they no longer need question Him? You still wish that they question and thus deny Him? Repent, Mr. Nye, for the time IS at hand. Soon, you will meet Jesus and you WILL stand before Him to be judged for every word that came from your lips. Deny Him and the Truth all you want but that is not going to stop anything that is about to come. Why do you hate God, Mr. Nye? Why do you reject Him? To reject Him is to hate Him. John 15:25, But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, “THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE.” Proverbs 8:12-19

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      September 24, 2012 @ 6:12 pm

      Read the article and you will see why Nye is so “obsessed.” The Creationists are trying to foist Creationism off as a science when it is a FAITH, not a SCIENCE. Scientists require physical evidence and repeatable tests as proof of their theories, while Creationists require belief in “I told you so, that’s all you need to know.” Their main tactic against science seems to be to foster disbelief in clear physical evidence.

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    • parks70Comment by parks70
      September 25, 2012 @ 1:21 pm

      Mach,

      Macro-evolution isnt a proven scientific fact, it is a theory. And as a theory it is no different than teaching intelligent design. They are both theories. Neither can be proven using the scientific method. Why not teach both as theories and let students decide what they want to believe? ID can be taught without every mentioning the word “God” or getting into religion and theology. Nye is the one who is insisting on forcing an unproven theory on students and stating it as if it is a proven fact.

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  20. CharlieComment by vietnamvet
    September 24, 2012 @ 5:14 pm

    I think that, for some, ‘science’ is the religion.
    Anything that smacks of a theological disagreement with the theology of science is sacreligious, to them.

    Michio Kaku is equally invested in ‘science’ being the only way to the truth, and all that has been posited by ‘scientists’ is gospel … including the ‘global warming’ hoax.

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  21. prairelivingComment by praireliving
    September 24, 2012 @ 6:30 pm

    Since God is infinite how do we know how, or if, He finds any importance in time as we know and define it. Let’s keep in mind that different cultures have always had different ways of keeping or marking time. How can we know what a ‘week’ is to God? Perhaps thousands or millions of years equate to ‘one week’ to Him.

    A bigger question with evolutionary believers is finding any proof whatsoever of macro evolution which is the theory they use to explain how humans came to be from animals and protoza, etc. While there has been evidence of micro evolution (animals adapting to changes in their environments) there has been absolutely no evidence of macro evolution (animals changing from one type to another). Right now it is just a theory…there is no proof. I suspect there never will be as it never happened.

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  22. Dean WillisComment by Dean Willis
    September 24, 2012 @ 8:29 pm

    Believe anything you want. Feel free to believe that Christ is calling you home, and step in front of a bus to get there. Or believe in the scientific theory that the bus will probably hurt you, and don’t.

    But failure to understand “the scientific method”: hypothesize, test, analyze (or some variant thereon) leads to the Dark Ages and burning witches (i.e, anybody who understands things about the world, like “science” that aren’t explicitly taught in your personal expurgated and redacted bible).

    Science builds computers, power plants, cars, antibiotics, and vaccines. It’s a technique proven to produce useful and often beneficial results. Absolute Creationism is not “a theory”, it’s a “faith”. This is the exact opposite of science. It is the denial of learning from observable phenomenon and replacement thereof by rote memorization of a badly handed-down story somebody’s ancestor once heard.

    So yes, let your kids study science. It just might keep you and your faith alive a little longer.

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    • parks70Comment by parks70
      September 25, 2012 @ 1:37 pm

      Yes, let’s teach our kids the scientific method. Hypothesize, test and analyze. The problem Dean is that is not what Nye was talking about. He wasnt talking about parents telling their kids to ignore facts proven through legitimate science, i.e. the scientific method. He was berating parents for their unwillingness to teach their kids that the theory of evolution is a proven fact. But what he can’t see is that the parents are right. Evolution is a theory, a rather poor one but in the end it is just a theory that can’t be proven through the scientific method any more than intelligent design can be proven through the scientific method. The next level used to evaluate theories is logic. And what makes more logical sense: That the world we see came from nothingness or was created by an all intelligent, omnipotent creator who has always existed, without a begin or end? Both stretch our minds and require assumptions based on faith. But in the end ID is mush more plausible than macro-evolution.

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  23. Bill from MiddletownComment by Bill from Middletown
    September 24, 2012 @ 8:41 pm

    To study science, is to study the mind of God. Who do you think wrote the laws of physics? How was a day measured before the earth revolved around the sun? To someone who has Always existed, a billion years is but a day, or an hour. How else was He to explain Creation to the first humans who’s minds could not yet grasp the concept of billions or trillions when mathematics or physics or the concept of micro biology had not yet been revealed to them?

    Bill Nye may be the science guy but he is none the less the fool for it.

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  24. Bill from MiddletownComment by Bill from Middletown
    September 24, 2012 @ 8:53 pm

    Ya better hope there is a god, a god who created all men equally and endowed us with unalienable rights, otherwise our rights are simply arbitrary and subject to the whims of those in power and the weak are subject to involuntary servitude, also at the whims of those in power.

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  25. coachdComment by coachd
    September 24, 2012 @ 9:16 pm

    What evolutionists do not consider is HOW God created the earth, and I think it is hysterical that they think that they are smarter than our omnipotent GOD! They try to figure out the world from their extremely limited human understanding – and try to make sense of Spiritual matters – that they have absolutely no comprehension of. Matter (physical matter)could have been collected from anywhere in the Universe to create the earth – God certainly could have gathered matter together that was billions or trillions of years old (or even much older than that) – and put that matter together to create the earth we now live on. God certainly could do anything He wanted to do…and He did in fact, create this earth for His spirit children to live on approximately 6000 years ago. Our first parents Adam and Eve were put into the garden that God created for them. The bible is our historical record of this fact. They did not live with dinosaurs…..those were simply part of the matter that was collected from other places in our Universe and brought together to create this earth. Hmmmmm….could it be that God actually knew in advance that we would one day need and use fossil fuels??? You bet He did. The prophet Isaiah warned “Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!” Yikes….watch out Bill Nye – looks like you are on a very slippery slope. Proverbs 3:5-7 “Trust in the Lord with all thy heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes; fear the Lord, and depart from evil.”

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