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House passes Cut, Cap and Balance

By David Espo

WASHINGTON (AP) - Defying a veto threat, the Republican-controlled House passed legislation Tuesday night to slice federal spending by $6 trillion and require a constitutional balanced budget amendment to be sent to the states in exchange for averting a threatened government default.

The 234-190 vote marked the power of deeply conservative first-term Republicans, and stood in contrast to stirrings at the White House and in the Senate on a renewed effort at bipartisanship to solve the looming debt crisis.

President Barack Obama and a startling number of Republican senators lauded a deficit-reduction plan put forward earlier in the day by a "Gang of Six" senators split evenly between the GOP and the Democrats. It includes $1 trillion in higher taxes, and the president said he hoped congressional leaders would "start talking turkey" on finding agreement as soon as Wednesday.

Wall Street cheered the news as well.

But House Republicans insisted on their own approach — despite Obama's veto threat and widespread predictions the measure approved Tuesday night would die in the Senate.

"Our bloated and obese federal budget needs a healthy and balanced diet, one that trims the fat of overspending and grows the muscle of our nation's economy," said Rep. Reid Ribble of Wisconsin, one of the 87 first-term House Republicans determined to reduce the size of government.

Democrats said the measure, with its combination of cuts and spending limits, would inflict damage on millions who rely on Social Security, Medicare and other programs. "The Republicans are trying to repeal the second half of the 20th century," said Rep. Sander Levin, D-Michigan.

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  1. knorskeComment by knorske
    July 20, 2011 @ 8:34 am

    Way to go, House of Representatives! I say, it’s about time our elected officials start acting in behalf of We the People!

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    • texasbrokerComment by texasbroker
      July 20, 2011 @ 1:52 pm

      Here is a link that documents the reason why Moody’s is not impressed with the McConnel plan thus NOT impressed with the “Gang of Six”. BTW it is the White House that shaped this discussion and gave them the name “Gang of Six”……controlling the dialogue? Socialist ****! Anythging less than the Cut, Cap and Balance plan that was passed will not stop the downgrade.
      Anyway, here is the link.
      http://goo.gl/Fmn6n

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  2. viperComment by viper
    July 20, 2011 @ 8:49 am

    All this guy wants is to destroy this country if he can’t spend us into destruction he gives away our reserve oil I thought that was for our military ? Maybe the thought of 50 million golden agers not happy with him was good enough for him to leave social security alone for a short time.                             The harder congress pushes to do the right thing for the people The less rational he gets he thinks it’s all about him. Will someone inform him America is not his private play thing

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  3. newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:11 am

    It’s not surprising that it passed the House, unfortunately it will never pass in the Senate and Obama has threatened to veto it if it ever does.  It’s absolute madness trying to deal with this president who doesn’t seem to give a hoot in hades about our deficit.  He’s enjoying spending this country into oblivion and transforming everything he can get his dirty hands on.

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    • Liberty4310Comment by Liberty4310
      July 20, 2011 @ 9:17 am

      Which is why the house Republicans need to stand firm.  At this point, they hold all the cards.  The Senate and President cannot do anything without house concurrence.  This is a time to hold on and see who blinks first.

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    • texasbrokerComment by texasbroker
      July 20, 2011 @ 12:42 pm

      The house is showing the IDIOT that they don’t care about his veto threat. He coerced Moody’s and S&P to say they are “considering” downgrading US debt if we do not raise the debt ceiling. Do you see the absolute BS in that statement? It originated at the White House. You have to know that the ratings agencies WILL downgrade our debt instruments if we DO raise the debt ceiling. Why? Because we will need to print more worthless money to repay that which we cannot pay to start with! John Boehner and associates you better NOT CAVE!
      If you cave Boehner, WE THE PEOPLE will run your butt out of town with the rest of the fools from this socialist administration. We put you where you are to fight THIS FIGHT! RIGHT NOW, NOT LATER. We do NOT have anymore time. Now is the time to take the stage AWAY from the COMMISSAR and this supposed gang of six. This potus is looking for any port in the storm. Why do you think he is EVEN appearing to listen to anyone except the communist Soros? Simply because he knows he is losing. DO NOT LET UP! WE WILL PREVAIL! Every one of you politicians will be replaced if you do not cut off the fun money from this jerk socialist. Here are the votes by Representative as reported by the US House of Representatives http://goo.gl/0zNjg. Look to see how your rep voted. If he/she is on the Nay side, call them and rip them a new one!

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    • cdrcodyComment by cdrcody
      July 20, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

      Bachmann voted NO?  She better have a real good reason, and I would like to hear it.  Otherwise she can kiss the nomination goodbye.

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    • texasbrokerComment by texasbroker
      July 20, 2011 @ 8:51 pm

      Hi cdrcody
      I think Bachman voted no because the CCB plan has a component that does allow the potus to raise the debt ceiling CONTINGENT on a balanced budget amendment. Bachman has been adamant about not increasing the debt ceiling at all. Here is the link to the bill summary.  
      http://goo.gl/bTEbI
      Hope this helps.

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    • sammyComment by sam
      July 21, 2011 @ 6:57 pm

      Bachmann claims to be a conservative, she is the leader of The Tea Party in the House, and here she goes and votes with her old party, some leader! 

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  4. downdraftComment by downdraft
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:16 am

    Our most dangerous threat is not necessarily the “economic situation” , nor America’s financial reputation around the world, nor Medicare, Social Security, nor Jobs (debateable), nor Taxes….
     
    Our most dangerous threat is OBAMA…
     
    Profile: *
     
    * Here we have a man who is not content with being President of the greatest counry on earth…which requires (and begs for) leadership…
     
    * Here we have a man who does not know how to LEAD such a great nation because he has never been taught, neither by experience, nor by any formal leadership corriculim in a college…
     
    * But he can DICTATE…if give the power….and being President alone does not allow him to DICTATE…but it gives him numerous options which, if skillfully addressed would lead this nation to its knees…and
     
    *….subsequently, being so weak and frustrated that riots and mayhem take place…would give OBAMA access to the War Powers Act (???)…this means as follows….(as allowed FDR in 1933…and still an option for current presidents)…

    * “Since March the 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and… control the lives of all American citizens”
    http://freedom-school.com/truth/waract.h…

    * Basically, if the nation becomes so unravelled…a President may simply “take over”…Congress would be irrellevant…the nation need not be attacked by a foreign country for this act to be legally activated…chaotic economic collasp would definitely fall in that category

    * …and OBAMA knows it!

    *…so, dumb like a fox

    Now, this might to some seem far fetched…but there are few explanations as to why Obama refuses, rejects or embraces the solutions…he prefers to make it appear that Congress (both sides), the Senate are ineffective…so crippled by processes and procedures that…

    “He has to call Martial Law, and take over in order to “save the day”…

    Good by elections, good by Constitution,….good by AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT…

    And we just sit here and allow it to happen…

    WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR?

    IMPEACH this dictator-in-the-making…?

    I am finally realizing we are slow on the uptake for a reason…

    There is SOMEONE waiting for us to realize our best answer…and its SHINY KNEES!

    Past due for serious kneeling in prayer…this is not a weakness, folks, but our greatest power over those that seek us harm….

    Wouldn’t it be something if everyone here would almost as you read this…toss up an “arrow prayer” for our nation, to protect us against those who seek us harm…to show us the way…?

    We have all been busy trying to find the way to resolve this…some secretly hoping for some sort of civil disorder…others for IMPEACH…

    Well…it ain’t working…we have ignored the most powerful solution…and I apologize to you myself, for ignoring what I knew was the correct answer…

    Its a human weakness to “let go”…

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    • downdraftComment by downdraft
      July 20, 2011 @ 9:38 am

      Correction:

      Its a human weakness to NOT “let go”…

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

      I hope somebody reads this.  Please!

      Downdraft is dead right.  Obama is a narcissistic megalomaniac.

      He and his Congressional commrades are bent on ruining this Republic.  There is no other reason for their actions.  NONE!

      Tragically, we don’t yet have sufficiently viable grounds for impeachment to fly.  Heck we couldn’t get Clinton convicted in the Senate for nationally televised purjury, and the Senate hasn’t even passed a budget for nearly three years, so I don’t see how we could possibly get the Senate to convict Obama on impeachment. 

      I wish we could impeach Obama, but that would not solve the problem.  By the way, I wish somone would muzzle the idiots wishing and advocating for a “violent” solution to the Obama problem.  That’s insane.  The left would love it.  It would rend this nation assunder and the Marxists would get their Martial Law.  Believe me.

      I’m tellin’ ya’ right now, folks.  I’ll bet George Soros goes to bed every night, praying that some nut kills his puppet.  That would give the Globalists everything they want.  This ain’t 1963, when everyone knew, understood and had faith in our Constitution.

      Just look at the Casey Anthony trial.  It was a non-starter from the git-go.  The prosecutor thought he could convict on emotion, because he had no evidence of pre-meditated, intentional murder, yet that was the charge.  A first degree law student knows that the whole case rests on correct charges IAW available evidence.  Moreover, Anthony’s attorney has been villified for defending her, and the jury has been villified for understanding and following the law.  I know of no one who doubts Anthony was in some way responsible for the death of Callie, but the proof wasn’t there for First Degree Murder. 

      Now, Nidal Hassan’s attorney has had to step down because of the constant villification of and threats to his family.  Those idiots don’t understand that, when a defense attorney defends the worst of us, he/she is protecting all of us.  Are these hate mongers willing to let public opinion decide if they deserve a good legal defense when/if they are on trial?  I bet not.

      My point is, I have never seen such a broad ignorance of our Constitution, laws, economy and history, not only in my lifetime, but in our entire history.  So whether we have a serious national crisis like 1963 or a complete economic collapse, the left wins.

      Terefore, conservatives need to stick to their guns and Cut, Cap and Ballance, and go to bed every night praying for Obama’s long life.  Get it?

      V/r, Tejano Jack

       

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    • blevelComment by blevel
      July 21, 2011 @ 12:03 pm

      downdraft, in my research on this I find that in 1977 Congress removed the Presidential privilege to freely use the power as an economic weapon in occurrences that did not include war.

      http://www.ehow.com/about_4613822_trading-enemy-act.html

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  5. Liberty4310Comment by Liberty4310
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:20 am

    “The Republicans are trying to repeal the second half of the 20th century,” said Rep. Sander Levin, D-Michigan.
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    That’s not such a bad idea, but it’s a little short sighted.  They need to repeal virtually everything dating from 1912.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      July 20, 2011 @ 9:36 am

      I was thinking the same thing! 5 star comment!

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    • Tonto (USA)Comment by Tonto (USA)
      July 20, 2011 @ 10:22 am

      Sander Levin, the commie puke who’s brother will not allow an American flag in his courtroom…..yeah, we need to revise all of it going back to 1912….at least.

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    • rickinnevComment by rickinnev
      July 20, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

      Michigan..the highest Muslim populated state in the USA..I would think Levin would be ecstatic to repeal some things.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 4:55 pm

      Once again Liberty4310, you have a great Idea.  The tax and spend debate is as old as the Republic, but our woes really began with the 13th Amendment in 1916.  It heated up manyfold during FDR’s reign, but it was Lyndon Baines Johnson who sent the heat exponentially soaring with his Great Society (GS). 

      My Dad was an old Depression/WW-II Era Democrat who swithched after Truman.  I thought he’d have appoplexy over Johnson’s Medicare and Great Society legislation.  Heck, Social Security would have been fine if Johnson hadn’t plundered it for Medicare and the G.S.  For the next four decades, my Dad and millions predicted today’s delema and perdicament. 

      In 1964, Time or Newsweek published an article titled, ” The College Class of ’68, The Moving Bubble”, predicting the inverted entitlement/revenue problem, healthcare shortages, etc in 2010.  Good article for the liberal JFK/LBJ years, but it just preceded the conservatives loss of Congress to Landslide Lyndon’s coat tails and everyone forgot it.   

      Johnson set this nation on the torturous but steady course for the rocks and shaoals of ruin.  We are there now.  We can see the breakers foaming in front of us.  Some call it the tipping point, but by whatever name, we have to stop now!  It is simple math.  Most of us Boomers once lived comfortably on what we now pay in taxes.  That’s because of inflation and that too is a tax.   Forty years ago Nixon floated US gold at $50.00/oz; yesterday it cloased at $1601.00/oz.  That is what our dollar has lost, but I predict that gold will exceed $2500/oz, if conservatives back down to Obama and the left.  Even default is not that bad.  Default is temporary and can be quickly fixed.  A worthless dollar and total economic collapse takes generations to fix, if the Republic survives.

      V/r, Tejano Jack

      P.S.  The Gang of Six plan is worthless and dangerous.  It guarantees no debt reduction and gives Obama and all presidents the power to rais the debt limit.  Bad idea! 

      Also, why is everyone wringing their hands over what Moody’s and S&P are saying.  Heck, it was Moody’s & S&P who said all of the Golman-Sachs shinnigans were AAA.  What’s wrong with that picture?

      V/r, T.J.

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  6. riverkingComment by RiverKing
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:23 am

    We (my wife and I, not the royal WE that seems to be fashionable in Washington) were very pleased by the House vote on HR 2560.

    I watched much of the “debate” on C-Span.  (Why did Maxine Waters think this was an appropriate time to rant against Photo Voter ID?)  It was very frustrating though to listen to Democrats line up to the microphones to lie about HR 2560 without a Republican reply.  I read HR 2560 and I know, for example that Rep. Van Hollen’s claim that it would cut Medicare is a complete lie (Medicare, along with several other programs, is specifically exempted from cuts).  Surely the GOP cosponsors of  HR 2560 knew these were lies yet, for the most part, they did nothing but repeat the same generalities in favor of the bill.  I really wanted to hear a firm “The honorable gentleman from Maryland hasn’t read the bill, doesn’t understand it, can’t read, or is lying through his teeth!” 

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    • downdraftComment by downdraft
      July 20, 2011 @ 9:34 am

      Why did Maxine Waters think this was an appropriate time to rant against Photo Voter ID?) …

      Innappropriate? Yep.

      Millions of viewers and listeners? Yep

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    • Tonto (USA)Comment by Tonto (USA)
      July 20, 2011 @ 10:27 am

      Maxine waters is amusing.  She’s such a stupid broad and an obvious socialist, that she admitted, in public, in committee, that the goal was to socialize America.  Golly, showing a picture ID would dis-include the dead, the mentally impaired and the illegals from voting…….she sure wouldn’t want that to happen!  This broad makes Pelosi look brilliant.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 2:51 pm

      Hey folks:  Don’t forget that Maxine Waters’ district has one of the worst crime rates in America and she is aperfect reflection of her constituency.
       
      V/r, Tejano Jack

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    • rickinnevComment by rickinnev
      July 20, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

      The AGE OLD and tired lies of Dems..oh, Reps don’t pay their fair share..(right, we don’t, we pay upward to 85% while the welfare scum slither by paying nothing)
      Oh, it’s for the children!  You bet, Teacher Salaries and Contracts that are horribly excessive and of course the Dept of Education, or, WE KNOW BEST..uh huh, that is why there are so many stupid kids in Atlanta, GA that they have to cheat on the test and got caught.
      Oh, the R’s will take away your Social Security!  LIARS..it was you Dems throughout history that have raped it, repeatedly.

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  7. antistatismComment by antistatism
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:29 am

    “Democrats said the measure, with its combination of cuts and spending limits, would inflict damage on millions who rely on Social Security, Medicare and other programs. “The Republicans are trying to repeal the second half of the 20th century,” said Rep. Sander Levin, D-Michigan.”

    Lies, lies, and more lies.  My understanding is that it alters FUTURE benefits for SS in that full benefits aren’t available until a later age, and does not impact anyone on SS today.  Let the scare tactics begin!

    I’m not sure where the Medicare cuts are, or how that will impact those currently on Medicare, if at all, as I haven’t perused all the proposals… same with Medicaid.  But the reality is that we are left with no choice.  Had Congress addressed these issues when they first realized that neither SS nor Medicare would be sustainable as the boomers retired, the reforms could have been implemented with little or no pain at all.  Now that we’re at the 11th hour, yes, there will be some pain involved in entitlement reform, but not nearly as much as we’d see if we do nothing, and this nation becomes unable to continually borrow more and more money to pay for the bloated programs (currently closing in on 100% of all tax revenues).

    Good for Congress for passing a bill that actually addresses the problem.  It’s not perfect, but it’s a very good start from what I’ve seen thus far.

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  8. AMVoterComment by AMVoter
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:38 am

    The Republicans in the House are to be commended!  Let’s hope that they do not cave at the last minute.
     
    As far as the Senate, it’s time to clean house of all those RINOS.  McConnell is a joke, and the three Republicans (Crapo,  Coburn and Chambliss) in the Gang of Six, along with Alexander, need to be voted out when they come up for reelection for undermining the Republicans in the House.  They should have been standing with the Republicans in the House.
     

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  9. Blu OwenComment by Blu Owen
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:56 am

    Being a strict “Constitutionalist” the only bill that the senate may consider is the “Cap, Cut and Balance”.
    For the people that may not be aware of what I am speaking here is Article 1 Section 7 of our constitution:
    “All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives, but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”
    No where does it say the Senate can devise their own Bills concerning raising Revenue.
    A good example of how much this has been abused one only need look at the “Health Care Bill” The original bill that was sent to the Senate had nothing to do with health care and was completely rewritten keeping only the Bill’s number.  How anyone could say that these changes were merely Amendments are making a mockery of our Constitution.
    As I learned in Civics class the “House” proposes and the “Senate” disposes. Once we move away from this basic principle the old term “The Peoples House” becomes meaningless.

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  10. Tonto (USA)Comment by Tonto (USA)
    July 20, 2011 @ 10:32 am

    I really wouldn’t be surprised if “cut, cap, and trade” passed in the Senate…and even went on to over ride Obambi’s veto.  If the members of Congress have any instinct for their politicl survival, they’ll start listening to what the PEOPLE are saying rather than the “party old boys”, and get with the program.  There is a Revolution brewing in America….that is LONG overdue…….and it is coming for the anti-American pukes of BOTH parties.

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      July 20, 2011 @ 10:36 am

      My question is, will demented crook Reid even bring the bill to the floor?  He has obstructed other bills, I believe in an effort to protect the annointed crybaby living in our white house.

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  11. JDZComment by JDZ
    July 20, 2011 @ 11:16 am

    The CCB should be pushed hard by Republicans and sent to the Senate, which in the end, may just pass the bill.  Look at how hard it was to get Obamacare through both Houses, but, Pelosi and Reid kept at it until it was passed. 

    The CCB is the only meaningful plan on the table for consideration at the moment and it is where the focus should be, not on the “Gang of Six” or any other attempt to undermine the “real” process of introducing legislation, having open debate, and voting to pass or not pass.

    It could make it to Obama, and they should go for it.  Let’s see if Obama has enough guts to veto a rational and balanced bill like the CCB.  My guess is that in the end, he will find a way of approving it because if he doesn’t, it will not be good politically for him, and he is smart enough to understand that.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 5:38 pm

      Exactly!

      Tejano jack

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  12. rickinnevComment by rickinnev
    July 20, 2011 @ 2:40 pm

    GANG OF SIX..only thing that got this Chicago Crime Boy’s attention was the “Gang” label.
     
    Six of these wizard idiots come up with some bullcrap of how they will knock 3.7 trillion out of a 14 trillion deficit and it will only take 10 years to do it AND we will keep the door wide open during those 10 years to increase the Debt Ceiling.
     
    Just how basically stupid has the American voter become?  The only way to knock this deficit down is to say NO to this Criminal in the half White House.  No more spending on other countries, no more spending on illegals, no more funneling OUR tax $$ to muslims in the mid-East and NO MORE OBAMA.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 5:42 pm

      Once again, Yes!

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  13. mcrankComment by mcrank
    July 20, 2011 @ 4:03 pm

    It is indeed refreshing to see elected leaders who recognize the issues at hand, taking a stand and showing resolve—and, by God, don’t any of you let up!

    If anyone is doing anything to inflict damage to those who rely on Social Security, Medicare, and other programs, it is the current occupant in the White House along with his colleagues.

    Punching back at Obama and the liberals is exactly what needs to be done.  We cannot waiver, compromise, nor become complacent.  The other side has enjoyed success because of their aggressiveness and persistence.  Conservatives have not demonstrated enough tenacity.  We need to take the fight to the liberals right on their own turf.

    If there truly are more Christians in this country than not—if there truly are more conservatives than liberals—if there truly are more people opposed to big government than not—then why are we not in charge?

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 5:35 pm

      Well said Mcrank.  Airborne! 

      V/r, Tejano Jack

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  14. sammyComment by sam
    July 20, 2011 @ 7:25 pm

    A big deal for the House to pass this bill, but the Tea Party leader of the House voted against it!   She may be the darling of the conservatives, but she is still voting with her old party.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 20, 2011 @ 7:51 pm

      Holy Hot Wings Batman! – er uh, Right Wings…

      I missed that.  That’s a bummer.  Hope she’s reading these, cuz she needs to do some damage control.  I suspect C,C&B “didn’t go far enough” for her.  Ya’ recon?

      Good call Sam and that’s the way to keep everyone on their toes. 

      V/r, Tejano Jack

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  15. cynicalobserverComment by cynicalobserver
    July 20, 2011 @ 9:56 pm

    At least, this is a start in the right direction after all these years of no accountability of the presidents and Congress.

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      July 22, 2011 @ 12:54 am

      Yeah, and she did say she wouldn’t vote for raising the debt limit under any circumstances.  Remember?

      V/r, T.J.

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