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From 'Never Trump' to 'Maybe Trump'

June 27, 2016 at 11:40 am 20 Commentary

I was among a group of hundreds of Christian leaders asked to attend a private event in New York City Tuesday billed as a “Conversation with Donald Trump.” I’m glad I did.

It’s no secret that I enthusiastically endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz during the primary campaign and have been an outspoken critic of Mr. Trump’s. While I maintain many of my original reservations, after Tuesday’s meeting, and as I told CBN News in an interview immediately following the event, I can now count myself among other Christian leaders in attendance who have moved from the “Never Trump” camp, to the “Maybe Trump” category.

For better or worse, this election has come down to two people: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Anyone who thinks that some third-party candidate or parliamentary shenanigans at the GOP Convention in Cleveland will change this reality are fooling themselves. Either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States.

I believe that if Hillary Clinton is elected, America is done, the U.S. Constitution is toast, and she will finish what Obama began – the “fundamental transformation” of America into a godless, neo-Marxist Third World banana republic. We’ve had decades of the Clintons to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that this woman is not only the most corrupt elitist to ever seek the presidency, she’s an evil ideologue hell-bent on the abolition of individual liberties and religious freedom. While Great Britain just voted to reclaim its national sovereignty, a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to completely relinquish our own.

Which leaves us Donald Trump.

While in many ways Mr. Trump remains a wild card and though I do remain skeptical, I saw a different side to him during Tuesday’s meeting. I appreciated, for instance, that he displayed a level of genuine humility, I believe, and a sincere willingness to listen and understand both our concerns about him and his past, as well as our concerns about America’s future.

Mr. Trump was clearly out of his comfort zone, the business world, yet had the mettle to answer tough questions in a room with nearly 1,000 highly dubious evangelical and Catholic leaders. The vast majority of his answers, if he honors the promises made, were extremely encouraging.

He pledged, for instance, to always appoint strict constructionist, pro-life, pro-Second Amendment and pro-religious liberty judges and justices, and further promised to do away with the 1954 Johnson Amendment, which, as most credible legal scholars agree, unconstitutionally muzzles pastors from the pulpit on issues relating to politics and political candidates. “I will tell you, folks, I watched fear in the hearts of brave, incredible people,” he said of pastors he’s met with on the issue.

Furthermore, Mr. Trump gave the strongest indication yet that he intends to be an unwavering ally to Israel. “Obama has forsaken Israel in favor of Iran,” he said to thunderous applause. “I can’t imagine that Bibi [Netanyahu] likes Obama so much,” he added, noting that Obama “gave [nuclear weapons] to Iran, which is now a major power.”

Still, while I appreciated his tone and willingness to leave his element to meet with many who, like myself, have been vocal critics, I yet remain concerned that Mr. Trump clearly was not comfortable giving a direct answer on questions concerning the radical LGBT agenda. He did say he will appoint staunchly conservative, strict constructionist judges and justices, which was encouraging, but clearly dodged questions on whether, as president, he will exercise his own legal authority to protect our wives and daughters from men in bathrooms and showers, as well as whether he will ensure that Christians are not forced to violate their conscience and participate in homosexual “marriage” rituals against their will.

His roundabout reaction to these questions was to punt to the Supreme Court, which tells me he still needs education on the false notion of judicial supremacy and can gain a better grasp on the separation of powers. “On [‘LGBT’ activism vs. religious liberty] judges are going to decide,” he said. “If they’re my [conservative] judges, you know how they’ll decide.”

On the Supreme Court, Mr. Trump offered additional good news, saying that he’s looked for guidance from the conservative Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation, and that these well-respected think tanks have set “the gold standard” on judicial appointments. He noted that they helped him list 11 judges with the judicial temperament we can expect from any of his potential nominees to the high court, adding, “I will name four or five more, too, and soon.”

As to our nation’s desperate need for another great awakening, Trump insisted, “We gotta spiritize this country.”

I and others in attendance wholeheartedly agree. I write about it in my new book, “Hating Jesus: The American Left’s War on Christianity.” We must humbly seek God’s wisdom in all we do and say, including in how we vote. We must covet the Holy Spirit’s discernment and ask that, as we, a nation founded on His principles and to His glory and Honor, endeavor to elect our next chief executive, that He might direct our paths, and that His will might be done on this earth, as it is in heaven.

As my friend Larry Tomczak, who was also in attendance, noted of our “conversation” with Mr. Trump, “Franklin Graham encouraged us to look at biblical leaders like Abraham, Moses, David and the apostles to recognize all of them had major flaws. ‘None were perfect – only One is perfect, Jesus, and He’s not running for president.’”

I can’t know what God’s doing here.

None of us can.

If he’s planning to use Donald Trump as our next president – as our King Cyrus – then the last thing I want is to stand in His way.

Should you vote for Donald Trump? I don’t have the answer. Pray about it.

That’s what I’m doing.

Matt Barber is founder and editor-in chief of BarbWire.com. He is author of “Hating Jesus: The American Left’s War on Christianity,” a columnist, a cultural analyst and an attorney concentrating in constitutional law. Having retired as an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer, Matt has taken his fight from the ring to the culture war. (Follow Matt on Twitter: @jmattbarber).

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  1. ltuser
    ltuser June 27, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Glad you finally came around to knowing the truth many of us have known for a few months now…

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  2. kbreedlove50 June 27, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    The GOP elite and the #nevertrump-ers need to take a serious look at what they are doing. 1) they are ignoring the rank-and-file and contributing to why so many ordinary people are flocking to Trump. 2) They are splitting what could be a massive bloc of conservative voters that could absolutely crush the Democrat machine. 3) They are fighting Trump when they should be helping the Republican brand by fighting against Øbama and his progressive surrogates.

    Focusing on Trump’s ego, they’re helping Hillary skate in. Why are they not bashing her for her espionage, her pay-for-play corruption with the Clinton Foundation and foreign governments, her character failings that led to the deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi? Why are they not pointing out to the black community that their past 50 years on the plantation being supported by the Democratic (founder of the KKK) Party “massas” has kept them enslaved, but with the illusion of freedom. Why do they not point out Planned Parenthood’s black genocide? All of this is fertile ground that the Republican elites are ignoring.

    Why does it take someone like me to have to point this out to them. This election is the Republicans’ to lose, and the elites are trying to do that, just because Trump is not one of them. And they are suborning rising stars in the Party — Marco Rubio, Mia Love, for example — when they should be using them to sell the Republican brand.

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    • vietnamvet June 27, 2016 at 9:06 pm

      You said: The GOP elite and the #nevertrump-ers need to take a serious look at what they are doing.

      Well, they don’t care about any of that.
      They know that they can continue their globalist UniParty scam under Hillary just as they have under Obama.

      That is all they care about …

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  3. 440volt June 27, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Should you vote for Donald Trump?

    That’s what I’m doing.

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  4. disqus_BbW9Ijty3V June 27, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Supporting Trump is like propping up Stalin during WW II. He is an evil man but possibly the lesser of 2 evils.

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    • godgivenrights June 27, 2016 at 9:40 pm

      More lies from the DNC.

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  5. DrGadget June 27, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    “I believe that if Hillary Clinton is elected, America is done, the U.S. Constitution is toast, and she will finish what Obama began – the “fundamental transformation” of America into a godless, neo-Marxist Third World banana republic.”

    This alone demands you vote for Trump.

    He may not push back against LGBT as hard as you might like. There are a million things that need to be done. If he takes care of 900,000 of them he will be a great blessing. It took decades for us to drift this far left. It may take decades to fix. Trump will move us in the right direction. Hillary would race the wrong way.

    BTW James Dobson and a crew of evangelicals recently met with Trump and he is now converted. He’s a babe in Christ. This was the one thing I had against him. But then Obama “claimed” to be a Christian too. Yeah right.

    I think Trump is being honest. I and others have been praying for him to accept Christ. This is such wonderful news.

    Even Abraham wasn’t so great at first. He was an idolator and a liar. But he grew under God’s guidance. Trump will grow.

    Hillary is given over to a reprobate mind. She calls good evil and evil good. Her conscience is seared. She’s a cloud without water, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. No good can possibly come from her.

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  6. joberl
    joberl June 27, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    What is this some kind of revelation? Anybody with half a brain has known what HiLIARy is. It’s no secret.

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  7. realitytrader1 June 27, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Trump has a history in his business dealings of saying what a prospect wants to hear and then conveniently forgetting about it or re-interpreting it later. He is unfit by character or temperament to be President, which is NOT to say Clinton is acceptable either.

    Conventions aren’t beauty pageants and the Republican convention can select someone else. Trump and his juvenile antics are Clinton’s only platform. He has an unfavorable polling rating of 72% . He is likely to usher in a Democratic landslide. If there is any legitimate way to stop him it should be sought.

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    • godgivenrights June 27, 2016 at 9:38 pm

      Where did you get your biography on Trump, from the DNC?

      Clinton lies, steals, and purposely left multiple Americans to die in Libya. Her foreign policy has completely disrupted the Middle East and provided the impetus for the rise of ISIS. Her policies have enable Iran to become a dominant power in the region, while providing them a path to nuclear weapons. She traded foreign policy favors for cash with the Chinese and Islamic countries bent on destroying us.

      There is no comparison.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser June 28, 2016 at 1:43 am

      So millions voted for trump, but who cares what the hell they want. Jsut go with whom ever the establishment wants anyhow?

      So what the hell is the point of having all these primaries/caucuses..
      Heck what’s the point of having a right to vote?

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    • baitfish June 28, 2016 at 7:59 am

      The “legitimate way to stop him” would have been for one of the other candidates to step up and tell the American people that they would stop the hostile takeover of America by illegal invaders, by building a wall and enforcing our laws. By telling Americans that they are going to put Americans first in every deal with foreign countries. By promising Americans that he would rebuild our military and defeat our enemies. By stopping the importation of muslims into America. By watching the muslims already here more closely.
      Of course, no one else had the courage to do that, so Trump got the most votes from an electorate that is completely fed up with the status quo in washington dc. Now it is time to put him in the white house.

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  8. godgivenrights June 27, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    Trump is the first GOP presidential candidate in almost 4 decades to boldly declare the truth about the opposition while professing great optimism in America.

    You know Bush, Rubio, Kasich, Christie, Ryan, Boehner, Romney, McCain, etc… don’t hold a candle to Trump’s clear view of Hillary, Islam, Obama, and the rest of our enemies. And NONE them ever showed the courage to expose the evil of the left.

    To anyone PAYING attention that loves this country, this should be the easiest vote since Reagan.

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  9. nvrick June 28, 2016 at 11:43 am

    I’ve gone from #NeverTrump to #MaybeTrump. He still has a way to go to convince me. If he can demonstrate he can maintain a statesman-like demeanor he can get me to #ProbablyTrump. If he can then outline more specifically what his policies will be, he can get me to #OkayTrump.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser June 28, 2016 at 1:55 pm

      So i take it Hillary’s getting your vote then..

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  10. tom.hughes.218 June 28, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    With all due respect to Dr. James Dobson and other Christian leaders accepting Trump as a recent Christian convert, we (including Dobson) have been fooled before by politician claiming to be Christians going on to hold office and show by their actions to be anything but. If Trump wants to claim recent conversion, then let’s hear it from his lips and see it in his action. Until then and until convinced of his change of heart and belief he will change his ways … #NeverTrump


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    • Snowy June 28, 2016 at 4:08 pm

      Choose #NeverTrump and you WILL be governed by the spawn of the devil, Hillary Clinton.

      This election is not a choice between a lifelong Christian pastor and Trump It’s a choice between Trump and pure evil and you seem to be leaning toward pure evil.

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    • tom.hughes.218 June 28, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      I do not agree that Hillary is pure evil nor is she the only alternative to “baby Christian” Trump, who looks more fake Christian to me as he words and actions are not Christ like. Green party looking like an interesting alternative now that #FeelTheBern out and likely backing Hillary.


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    • vietnamvet June 28, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      If you don’t see Hillary as pure evil, tom, then your compatriots in the Bernie Bunch would disown you if they knew you are so blind.

      With your former support for Bernie, your present admiration for Hillary, and your willingness to waste your one vote on a ‘green’ candidate who has already lost … it’s no wonder that you are #NeverTrump.

      It would not surprise me if you are also #NeverWork.

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    • godgivenrights June 28, 2016 at 9:18 pm


      In the 70’s Hillary Clinton chose to defend a rapist in court. She knew he was guilty. She laughed and claimed she could no longer have any faith in the polygraph when her client passed it with no problem. He got off with a slap on the wrist. His 12 year old victim was left in a coma.

      She has destroyed women for being the victims of her husband’s infidelity and violence. She has traded her influence as Secretary of State for multi-million dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation.

      Hillary Clinton is clearly described in Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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