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Message to Churches: We are Watching You

By GOPUSA Staff

As if churches aren't being attacked enough, now comes the second round. First, we had Obamacare, which currently forces churches and religious institutions to violate their faith in order to comply with Obama's law (lawsuits pending). Now, an organization is looking to make sure churches don't step out of line or speak out during this election cycle.

As reported by CatholicVote.org, 60,000 churches were sent a letter from Americans United for Separation of Church and State. The letter warns churches that their IRS tax-exempt status could be revoked if they speak out too much.

Here is a copy of the letter:

Does this seem like a public service to you? A gentle reminder?

This is a naked attempt to bully churches into being quiet this election. They even offer a section on their website inviting people to "Report a Violation". That's because they know that religiously active American citizens can be all the difference in critical elections across the country this November.

Catholic priests, parishes, dioceses, etc have every right to inform the consciences of their fellow Catholics. Just because you are a person of faith or a 501c3 non-profit does not mean you must give up your right to free speech.

Read the full story at CatholicVote.org

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  1. billwvComment by billwv
    October 2, 2012 @ 1:50 pm

    I would not use time from the pulpit to promote politics versus preaching the Gospel of Christ; but out on the Church porch a lot of issues can be addressed and WHY can’t people [even the preacher] talk about the failed policies of the current Ozero administration. I could safely say that probably 100% of the congregation agree that ‘change’ is needed and I’m not talking reelecting Ozero. All or most are registered [practicing] voters.

    2012 Vote for and Elect

    Romney / Ryan

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    • way2coolComment by way2cool
      October 2, 2012 @ 3:50 pm

      billwv: I am responding to your response to me (below). That is the one thing I admire about the Baptists – they do speak their faith!….and I agree with you, as a Catholic, bring it on!

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    • MorganComment by Morgan
      October 2, 2012 @ 4:22 pm

      What really rankles my feathers is that this so called “Rev” Barry Lynn is suppose to be a preacher, yet he supports every antiGod issue that comes along.

      Americans United against Church and State http://www.au.org is twin brother to the ACLU

      One day this man will stand before God and give an answer for his actions.

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    • PATRIOTComment by PATRIOT
      October 2, 2012 @ 4:33 pm

      This law is often selectively enforced against churches attended by predominantly white congregations. Black churces in the south have discussed and preached politics since there has been churches and politics. This goes as far as inviting political candidates to speak from the pulpit and to solicit votes. Black churches are actually the center of African American political power. There should be nothing wrong with this either. The problem comes when more conservative churches are treated differently. Has anyone ever heard of a predominantly black church ever being forced to comply with this law? I think not.

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    • 123defenderComment by 123defender
      October 2, 2012 @ 5:54 pm

      FYI Barry Lynn in the 80′s was the legislative counsel for the Washington D.C. branch of the A.C.L.U..He has always espoused communist ideology and he and Balwin the ACLU founder have as their goal the making of religion; irrelevant; both of their organizations are devoted to this ideal.You may remember that Mr.B.Lynn was the champion of those cowards who fled to Canada rather than serve their country.Most of the military during that time DID NOT serve in Vietnam ,so that was a phony reason put forth by those cowards.

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    • bna42Comment by bna42
      October 2, 2012 @ 7:33 pm

      “Americans United for Separation of Church and State” has no authority to threaten churches with loss of their tax-exempt status. ONLY the IRS can make that decision. But since this organization has decided to shoot off their mouths, they need to examine the article posted just this morning about the black churches getting involved in politics. They also should investigate Nancy Pelosi for insisting the Catholic priests address immigration reform from their pulpits or Bill Clinton accepting invitations to speak at black churches during the last campaign. He is no preacher and anyone with half a brain knows what he was talking about from their pulpits.

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    • capricorn1Comment by capricorn1
      October 3, 2012 @ 8:18 am

      whats next book burnings?seig heil seig heil!

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    • sirodComment by sirod
      October 3, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

      Most churches are under a shadow of concern about the tax exemption being taken away if they speak out against Obama. That concern is not confined to the Catholics. If we can’t vote him out of the white house next month, our country will be ruined past redemption. We all need to pray for God’s will in this election. Please encourage everyone to vote their conscience.

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  2. inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:11 pm

    If the Catholic Priests do not wake up and inform their flocks there is a wolf in sheep’s clothing anmong them they will be relegated to the status of the Church of Poland from 1945 to 1990 and there will be no John Paul to lead them out of the mess they created with their own avoidance of the truths that set men free they swore to uphold.

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      October 3, 2012 @ 6:50 am

      The problem is with Catholic priests is that they are not all on the same page. You have your very conservative priests and liberal ones too. Just like in all of us. We have a Deacon in our parish that during the presidential campaign of 2008. Well he told us at one Sunday sermon that year, that if we all don’t get out and vote for Obummer that whoever does not, cannot consider himself or herself a real Catholic, in pretty much those words.

      I got up on the spot and walked out of the church then and there as did about 25 or 30 other parishioners. He must have been scolded big time because he has never talked of politics since!

      I dont need a priest or anyone else telling me how to vote. I am a well educated man and can figure it out on my own. I am worried about the millions that are not educated enough to know what is right and what is wrong. And also those receiving entitlement checks, phones and government cheese. AND OBUMMER IS THE WRONG WAY TO GO FOR ME!

      God have mercy on this Nation. We have never in our history needed it so much!

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  3. prairelivingComment by praireliving
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

    As a practicing Roman Catholic I have seen various publications put out by the Church as voting guides. Never once have I seen an endorsement of a specific candidate or party. Frankly, they don’t need to tell the faithful who to vote for. By presenting the issues which our faith tells us are ‘non-negotiable’ life issues (ie abortion, euthenasia, definition of marriage as one man/one woman) and explaining what the position of the Church is and why, it isn’t hard for someone who wishes to vote in step with the Church’s position to know which candidates are or are not in accordance. To vote for someone who is supporting a view that is against the faith on these issues is a grave decision.

    The Church also highlights in the voter guides other issues that are important but have the potential for more than one vision of solution (ie immigration reform, poverty issues). If all candidates are equal on the non-negotiables then these issues can be used to decide from there.

    Are the Church leaders telling us who to vote for…no, we have free will and can do what we wish. Of course, we will need to answer to the ultimate Authority one day and we will be held accountable for all our actions.

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    • 123defenderComment by 123defender
      October 2, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

      Praireliving I too am a practicing Catholic; however, I do not have the same faith in my fellow congregants that you have.Just last Saturaday after the 5pm Mass When I exited the church’ parked directly in front of the front door was a vehicle festooned with signs calling on us to “reelect Obama”,there were several such signs.”The Catholic church I fear is more afraid of losing its501(c)3 standing that to call this godless president out.I fear there reticience will allow this godless person to be reelected and we will have the church to shoulder a big part of the blame.This letter by Lynn is nothing more than a fear tactic,I hope it is defied by all Christians.When I see nuns on the DNC convention stage sharing it with advocates of abortion and same sex marriage and no excommunication I am not happy

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  4. pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:29 pm

    The voter guides I have seen usually just list how each candidate responded to certain issues, school choice, abortion, etc. They do not tell you to vote for one candidate or another, they simply inform you of each candidate’s position on issues that you might consider important. If a candidate refuses to answer the questionnaire, it usually indicates “no response” and/or shows their voting record on the issue.

    Does Americans United for Separation of Church and State enjoy a tax-exempt status? They are very partisan.

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    • MorganComment by Morgan
      October 2, 2012 @ 4:26 pm

      “Separation of Church and State enjoy a tax-exempt status”

      Ya know what txgoatlady? That is an excellent question, and no doubt they do.

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  5. csbridgComment by csbridg
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

    Just wondering….does this apply to the “souls for polls” movement also or did they get an exemption?

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  6. ggfilthyComment by ggfilthy
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:36 pm

    Who is watching Media Matters…they are public funded and blattenly in bed with OBOZO and the DEMOCRACKHEADS….MAN! the hypocrisy is mind numbing.

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  7. noveldogComment by noveldog
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

    It is time to strike back. Buy and install air to air astennas and watch free TV. You don’t have to watch CBS, ABC, or NBC. Yoiu have PBS, TCT, CBN, and over cable you can watch Fox. You also have a multitude of religeous channels. Watch them and support them and let the others go broke.

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  8. nickster99Comment by nickster99
    October 2, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

    I get sick to my stomach when I see cars in my parishes parking lot on Sunday with Obummer 2012 bumper stickers. And they call themselves Catholic. I feel like ripping them off the cars or taking a magic marker to them!

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    • Amfer FergComment by Amfer Ferg
      October 2, 2012 @ 3:21 pm

      I feel exactly the same!

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    • MorganComment by Morgan
      October 2, 2012 @ 4:27 pm

      LOL Do it.

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    • JamesTComment by JamesT
      October 2, 2012 @ 5:00 pm

      Or simply wait for them to come to their car and ask them if they can explain this contradiction. Are they hypocrites because of their bumper stickers or because of their attendance at church?

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    • ggfilthyComment by ggfilthy
      October 2, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

      forget the magic marker…just put another sticker right next to it that says…..GET AN ABORTION….IT MIGHT BE A LIBERAL! It should…and thats a 50 / 50 shot at best… send a double message to the morons.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      October 3, 2012 @ 11:01 am

      just put a Romney sticker over it

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  9. gimmesometruthComment by gimmesometruth
    October 2, 2012 @ 3:13 pm

    The ‘State’ has been coming after faith-based 501C3′s since the beginning. It is intimidation of the highest order. But the Bible is quite clear about serving both GOD and man……it can’t be done. So. if your tax-exempt status is more important than following Biblical precepts, then the IRS won’t be knocking on your door. But if your convictions require you to point out ungodly, paganistic behavior on the part of the state, then you can reasonably expect that visit. Our country, and it’s future course, are at a crossroads. Houses of Worship, and their leaders, will have to decide if they are ‘sheep’ or ‘eagles’.

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    • JamesTComment by JamesT
      October 2, 2012 @ 5:25 pm

      “But Peter and John answered and said to them ‘Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge. For we can not but speak the things which we have seen and heard” (Acts 4:19-20)

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  10. way2coolComment by way2cool
    October 2, 2012 @ 3:20 pm

    This ‘letter/notice’ is nothing more than a veiled threat; as they say is “…not intended to be a substitute for legal advice…”. They, on the other hand, are violating Free Speech which is “legal”. I have yet to hear a Catholic priest speak one way or another on any political issue in the past 60 as a practicing Catholic. So, just who are they afraid of? The Baptist, Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc.?

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    • billwvComment by billwv
      October 2, 2012 @ 3:33 pm

      way2cool:
      We, as Baptists, talk a lot on the Church porch, and to bring our views and preferences on candidates is not uncommon. [See my above post] If we are to be ‘assaulted’ by the IRS for making our conversations clear as to who needs to be voted out of office; then all I can say is ‘bring it on’.

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  11. Paul BahreComment by Paul Bahre
    October 2, 2012 @ 3:22 pm

    The church and the ministers can’t overtly get political. They can remind people in the pews that to do God’s will here on earth people need to elect those most in tune with their beliefs and those least hostile to our beliefs, culture moral judgement. They can also let lay people organize voter registration and individual members can even campaign amongst themselves, as long as it does not come from the church hierarchy.

    No it seems to me that Obama wants the “Black” churches to get out the vote for him but he does not want the “White Evangelical” churches to do their bidding. What he does not realize is that most “Black” churches are more in tune with their White brethren than he realizes. Most black churches are Evangelical in nature also and they do not like what they see in “Brother Barack.” The black church has had their bellies full of Obama and are either going to stay home out of antipathy (mostly that’s my guess) or the liberal faithful will get out and vote for him. Very few will vote for Mitt. What Mitt’s people need to do is to rile up the conservative Christian right, and that includes Catholics (The old Moral Majority) to take advantage of the antipathy of the black church and to further capitalize on that gain. It’s not polls that matter it’s who votes and who shows up to vote and who declines to vote that makes the winners and losers in this campaign.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      October 3, 2012 @ 11:08 am

      couldn’t agree with you more. if the south, the catholics, the black churches, the evangelicals would just get past a lot of the BS they’ve been told about those ‘darn Mormons’ they would realize they have a lot more in common, religiously and politically with Mitt than they could ever hope for with O’Bummer.

      As I heard someone say just the other day, Obama can win an election on Hope, but he CANNOT win a re-election on Hope. Let’s hope(!) that everyone understands that and realizes that their best chance of saving this country is realizing voting for the imposter, even with the best of intentions, was a MISTAKE and they cannot correct it by staying home. They must support Romney/Ryan!

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  12. braines57Comment by braines57
    October 2, 2012 @ 3:23 pm

    What I want to know is was this same letter sent out to all of the Muslim temples across the U.S.? Of course not, because this group only exists to attack Christians and especially Catholics. How DARE this group try to trample on our Constitutionally- guaranteed religious freedom! We need to send a strong message to these people and the ACLU and all the rest of them: the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values – not Muslim, not Hindu, not anything else. If you don’t like it, LEAVE! We don’t attack you or try to infringe upon your religious freedom, but neither are we going to continue to allow you and your band of thugs try to trample on ours. Remember: NOVEMBER 6, 2012 – NATIONAL TAKE OUT THE TRASH DAY!

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  13. vevaComment by veva
    October 2, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

    Planned Parenthood and La Raza both politicize, and spend taxpayer grants, and should be defunded. Period. The past head of La Raza is in the WH, and funding was increased by Obozo. Write to your Representative and ask WHY is this being allowed!

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  14. chaswComment by chasw
    October 2, 2012 @ 4:06 pm

    The separation of church and state does not appear in the U.S. Constitution, it was a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson in a letter in 1802. That does not mean it is not a valid idea. The separation of church and state was important to our forefathers, because of what occurred in England. English monarchies were tied to particular religious organizations and would persecute the members of the “opposing” group. Many of our founding fathers came to the new world to escape this cycle of persecution, and to have freedom of religion. To ensure that the same problems in England would not occur in their new home, making sure that the government did not dictate religion was a priority. In essence separation of church and state is to protect religious freedom not to keep religion in “check” by government mandates. We are a secular nation, because any other form would limit our religious freedoms. To use Jefferson’s idea to mute the church on political issues would be an abuse of power.
    While 501C3 status gives an organization many privileges, it comes at a cost. Christians need to remember Christ did not hold back when it came to talking about the politics of his day. The Herodians, Sadducees, Pharisees, and Romans were the political “parties” of the day. Instead of making sure that everyone was happy and not upset with what He said, He spoke the truth. Just a cursory study of the book of Mark gives example after example of statements and actions that would be deemed offensive by the intended original audience. Keeping in mind teachings from the pulpit should be for the exhortation of the parishioners first, there is a time and place to talk about the issues of the day in light of what the inspired word of God, the bible, says. Currently many churches would not be able to survive financially without their non-profit status, but is that status worth not impacting our culture?

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  15. middlegroundComment by middleground
    October 2, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

    Pope Pius XII has often been criticized for not speaking out against Hitler and his death camps, but it is the nature of power to hesitate when that power becomes absolute and is not bound by any rules. The Pope knew his obligation was to his church and its officials and they would quickly have joined Jews, Communists and others in being systematically murdered if he had tried to take a high moral stand.

    We are in the process of creating a similar situation in this country with the current administration. If President Obama is re-elected he will have a chance to appoint 2 or 3 Party loyal judges to join the other two he appointed, and then who will stand in his way of his imperial edicts? The Senate is already irrelevant and under his total control with Reid in charge. Bills sent by the House never leave Reid’s inbasket to be considered and voted on by the entire Senate. Thusfar, Obama’s edicts and czars, which are totally unconstitutional, have stood as a blatant abuse of power, so picture what power Obama can wield with four more years of power and a totally controlled SC.

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  16. BuzzComment by Buzz
    October 2, 2012 @ 4:19 pm

    Black churches and democrats are exempt from the law. Democrats can actually campaign for office in the church, from the pulpit; they can set up voter registration drives as well, as long as it is clearly targeted at democrat registrants.

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  17. staffsgt7Comment by staffsgt7
    October 2, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

    But mosques get our tax money, their institutions such as ISNA that goes to interfaith dialogs also have seats in ******’s administration – not as ordinary citizens but openly flount their ‘I am a moslem’ status.

    This is pure and utter bull ****.

    We also get the ‘church of the left wing idiots’ openly pushing obama’s agenda while not giving a balanced view of the politicians but openly making personal bashes against the Republicans.

    I know this because of talking to the kids so I make sure they know that what the teachers have done is not right.

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  18. Marc MaussComment by Marc Mauss
    October 2, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

    I think Rev. Lyon (and many others) fails to realize exactly why churches are exempt. That very same First Amendment to which he refers prohibits the United States from making *ANY* law respecting an establishment of religion. If the tax code applies to churches, then the tax code is in violation of the First Amendment.

    IRS is Constitutionally prohibited from ruling on churches in ANY way, shape, manner or form.

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  19. moonshineComment by moonshine
    October 2, 2012 @ 5:27 pm

    I’m sure everyone’s heard the old story about the Nazis. How first it was a distant friend who was taken, then a close friend, then a neighbor, then a family member, and then they came for you. If you wait, you will lose and they will win.
    The Christian churches must speak out and defend religious freedom and freedom of speech; as guaranteed by The Constitution, if they don’t want to lose it. Now is the time to do so. If you are bullied by these radical thugs into doing nothing, then you most certainly will lose to them.
    Remember, all that it takes for evil to triumph, is that good men do nothing.

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    • nickster99Comment by nickster99
      October 3, 2012 @ 8:10 am

      I have news for you it was not a story. My father-in-law lived in Germany as a teen during the war. Sometimes when they came they took what they wanted. Even your young sister or your mother or the farm tractor. He told me when the nazi’s came around they had to hide their sister in the root celler under bales of hay or they would have gang raped her it was a common occurance. And when the Russians came through after the war. Nobody was safe. They took everything and you were lucky not to be shot in the head!

      Just pray to God it never gets that bad here. I think the only group that would be able to make these kind of atrocities happen would be the New Black Panther Party or some new Security formed by Obummer to do his dirty work. Like Hitler had the SS do for him.

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  20. nmleonComment by nmleon
    October 2, 2012 @ 6:55 pm

    The letter was obviously an attempt at intimidation, but it’s a toothless threat.

    In order to get 501(c)3 status an organization has to file all sorts of paperwork with the IRS, and then, if approved, the IRS issues a “Letter of Acceptance”. That is all organizations except churches have to go through that process. Churches are automatically afforded 501(c)3 status. The only way their tax exempt status can be revoked is if they are found to not be a church.

    In Branch Ministries, Inc vs IRS, the court found that the IRS could take back the church’s Letter of Acceptance (they had gone through the formal process), but that it didn’t matter as the church’s tax exempt status was automatic and they didn’t need the letter.

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  21. Bill from MiddletownComment by Bill from Middletown
    October 2, 2012 @ 6:57 pm

    If America’s churches would stand together, they would prevail over this Satanic effort to silence free speech. I have my doubts about the courage and conviction of today’s religious leaders, though.

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  22. highsiderComment by highsider
    October 2, 2012 @ 8:12 pm

    Americans United for Separation of Church and State, we are watching you too and we have a source of power you know nothing about.

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  23. freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
    October 3, 2012 @ 1:36 am

    How completely big brother. It seems to me with this letter, that the IRS is taking a side, and doing their own Church and State side taking. Is this not a form of blackmail?. It is certainly bullying in it’s most blatant form.
    This administration is doing, anything to make sure that Nobama stays in power. Has the whole world gone deaf and blind?. Is it really possible so few can see what this man is doing to our once great Country?. If he succeeds, those who are keeping him in power will be the ones screaming the loudest when we have become under Dictatorial rule. Did someone successfully repeal the Constitution while I was sleeping?. It seems that it no longer has any importance whatsoever to this Administration, which uses it only when it appears to back up something in their favor.
    What ever happened to Freedom of Speech?. Apparently it is not alive and well, as it used to be.
    As if any clergy has to remind their congregation how to vote, when Nobama has so blatantly tossed God and Christianity under the bus ever since he took office. He is Anti God, Anti Christianity, Pro Muslim. There is not a single person in any congregation which would vote for him, as doing so is a vote against God, Christianity, and any other religion, except Muslim. He is Muslim to the core, and no words of how Christian he is can dull my senses as to where his devotion lies in this regard.
    Our pastor merely says vote your faith. This merits, nor de-merits no candidate. It merely tells the congregation that if the vote feels right according to their own beliefs, then vote it accordingly. The way I see it, a vote for Nobama is a vote against God, and all God serving, believing faiths. Pretty easy choice, and not a single clergy has to say anything in their pulpit, as Nobama says volumes about whither or not God counts.
    I say vote for the American.

    TAKE OUT THE TRASH IN NOVEMBER,
    SEND THE MUSLIM BACK TO WHERE
    EVER HE REALLY DID COME FROM.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      October 3, 2012 @ 11:15 am

      Amen and Amen! 100 stars!

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  24. unfathomableComment by unfathomable
    October 3, 2012 @ 11:29 am

    Because meddling in politics is not the domain of religious institutions.

    Free speech is not under attack. Catholic and Christian institutions can endorse who they wish, they just have to pay the price of violating the tax code. And the Catholic church is such a wealthy institution, I’m surprised it’s not more vocal about violating the separation of church and state to promote its biased agenda.

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    • freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
      October 3, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

      If any clergy is disallowed to express how they feel about anything, then they are denied their free speech rights, no matter how you look at it.
      If you were to go to a neighborhood BBQ, and tell your friends there how much like, or dislike you have for a certain candidate, and the next day the IRS came to your door, and told you that you had lost all your deductions on your income tax, because you spoke out against a certain candidate, how then would you feel about your free speech being violated?. This is nothing more or less, than that scenario, with the exception that they are doing it to religious institutions, instead of you personally. If this man continues in power for another term, you might just find that if you say something at a BBQ and a Government sympathizer turns you in, you might just face a worse fate. Very much like Hitler’s Brown shirt kids. They were constantly on the watch, and listen, for anything negative said about their Furor, and turned their own families in.
      Do you think it will be any different here, should he retain the Presidency?. You can already see such things unfolding in our everyday lives under this tyrant.
      Right now, I can say these things, because I have not been reported to him, in 6 months, if he retains power, I will likely be arrested for my opinions.
      Anyone who sides with this man and his agenda, sides with him in bringing our Country under Rule, and us as his Subjects. Once he, or anyone else, takes us under rule, there is no turning back, and those who brought this fate upon us can only blame themselves for their stupidity, and lack of foresight as to what this man was planning, and implementing.
      As much as I despise what is going, I can see Bible Prophecy being fulfilled at a incredible rate. I am most sure that we have entered the beginning stages of the last days, as foretold in the Bible thousands of years ago. All one has to do is pick up a newspaper, listen to the news, or watch any of the TV news media channels, to see this ever so clearly taking place.
      TAKE OUT THE TRASH IN NOVEMBER,
      VOTE FOR THE AMERICAN, AND SEND
      THE MUSLIM HOME.

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    • unfathomableComment by unfathomable
      October 3, 2012 @ 6:04 pm

      Clergy are representatives of the Church. The Church enjoys tax-exempt status: they can’t be taxed by the government, in exchange for the government not interfering with religious worship. The IRS is stepping on the Church’s toes since the Church is interfering with the government by using its status to endorse a candidate.

      The rest of your Free Speech argument is not the issue. Following the law the Church agreed to is.

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    • freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
      October 3, 2012 @ 8:57 pm

      If a clergy member stands up in the pulpit, and tells the Congregation not to vote, or to vote for a particular candidate, this would be endorsment, if he expresses a opinion if asked, this is a opinion. There is a huge difference, although not to the Nobama campaigners.
      To what tax code are you referring?. Until Nobama was in power, the Church has on many occasions, ALL denominations, offered their congregations their OPINIONS, with not a single word said that they could not do so.
      Show me a article which directly references the fact that the IRS can remove their tax free status, if they not even endorse, but prefer, a specific candidate. Any true Christian knows who not to vote for, it is the Anti American, Anti God, Anti Christian candidate. This has never been a issue until this election, not even in 2008 when he was a candidate.
      The Government itself is breaking the rules, when they attack the church, such as BHO does when he tells people they can no longer worship God, or pray in public, or in schools. Tell me that the Government is not disassociating between Church and State. Our Religious rights are being removed, by whom, BHO, so where is this separation, the Government so desperately seeks of the Church, but not of their own opinions of, and against the Church. If it is not fair for the goose likewise, it is not fair for the gander?. When Nobama, Government, can tell the church what they can and cannot do, then they are not keeping a separating of Church from State. You can argue till the crows come home to roost, but your argument is irrelevant, as if the Government can lord over the Church, then the separation is not severed, and still exists. Nobama gave up his right to scream separation, the moment the Government began to tell the Church, and it’s people, what they can and cannot do. NOPE, no separation here, but it certainly is very one sided, in the separation argument.

      TAKE OUT THE TRASH IN NOVEMBER, SEND THE
      ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI GOD, MUSLIM, MARXIST, HOME.

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  25. Arturo R. Pasarón PérezComment by Arturo R. Pasarón Pérez
    October 3, 2012 @ 11:41 am

    Lo que hizo grande a EU fue la separación de las iglesias y el estado, donde el establecimiento de la libertad de cultos RELIGIOSOS, RESPETANDO HASTA LOS ATEOS forjó también la igualdad entre los hombres ante el cumplimiento de las leyes de Dios y las establecidas democráticamente por los hombres. Priorizar los derechos del culto al mono como nuestro progenitor casual; Frente a los derechos del culta a Dios como nuestro creador, no debe ser un privilegio en las escuelas, establecidos por los representantes de una cultura de idiotas que ignoran que la voluntad no es facultad de la materia y llegan al extremo en su mundo material, hasta a ignorar el huso correcto del ANO.

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