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GOPUSA Poll: Ron Paul and drug laws

By The Scribe

It seemed curious to me that there was so little reporting of perennial presidential candidate Ron Paul’s statements on drug laws made during the Fox News sponsored GOP debate last week. On the other hand, there was very little media coverage of the debate itself. Perhaps, the mainstream media is operating on the theory that if they ignore Republican presidential candidates they will simply go away.

Ron Paul flirts with the presidential race every four years, making a big splash among college kids and on the Internet. His fundraising ability through Internet websites and money bombs is a thing of envy for other less technologically savvy candidates.

His supporters are very vocal, known for their networking ability to flood Internet polls to skew the results, but in the end they were too few in number to get Paul the nomination in 2008. However, you can see his results in the 2008 primaries here. His votes paled in comparison to the Beltway candidate McCain and that is pretty pathetic. When McCain lost primaries it was either Romney or Huckabee who beat him.

But why is he so popular with the young crowd and how much do mainstream conservatives really know about him beyond his opposition to the fed and his desire to cut spending and limit government, a goal shared by all conservatives.

Do conservatives know of Paul’s libertarian stand on legalization of hard drugs, prostitution and gay marriage? Will conservatives support him once they do?

The debate venue was heavily seeded with college students who apparently do support the free use of heroin and other hard drugs judging by their loud applause. That raises the question of what are South Carolina parents sending their students to university to learn but that is a topic for another day.

In response to a moderator’s question, Paul makes a silly joke about how many people would say, “I don’t want to use heroin! I need these laws!” That’s a very flip approach to a very serious issue.

It is very popular to flirt with a Ron Paul presidency but how many of us really want our president to support hard drugs, prostitution, gay marriage as well as reduced spending and limited government?

What say you?

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  1. lmaoComment by lmao
    May 10, 2011 @ 8:39 am

    Calling Ron Paul a perennial candidate and then saying that he “flirts with the presidential race every four years” is nothing more than a smear attempt and a lie. He ran once in 1988 and then once in 2008. The only reason he is running in 2012 is because his supporters have pretty much made him obligated to do so by unanimously calling for it.
     
    I would suggest that you stop posting lies and actually do some real research before you say something as stupid as calling Ron Paul a perennial candidate who runs for president every four years because that’s not true by an stretch of the imagination. By saying so, you’re being very disingenuous.

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    • clessComment by cless
      May 10, 2011 @ 9:38 am

      Imao, if thet stopped posting lies, this bunch wouldn’t have anything else to post. By the way, I am in total agreement with Ron’s drug policy. There is no other more useless, waste of money, time and law enforcement than our perennial DEA. It works exactly like Prohibition did.

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    • ronpaulsaveusComment by ronpaulsaveus
      May 13, 2011 @ 4:46 am

      oops I accidentally hit 1 star instead of 5 STARS & it made the bar go down, sorry! should’ve went UP, I meant, yeah, this ‘article’ is a bunch of hot air EL TORO POO POO cuz they got NOTHIN’ on Dr. Ron Paul, he’s morally ethically & intellectually so superior they are scared poopless

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  2. gabentxComment by gabentx
    May 10, 2011 @ 9:23 am

    I am simply amazed at how often these “blogs” or articles or opinion pieces are written but are not seriously examined!  The drug war has put cartels in power of Mexico.  The drug war has put MILLIONS of non-violent criminals into the hell of prison only to be released a greater danger to the public after being incarcerated. The use of drugs will continue all over the world until the end of time.  Sometime before then we should consider a different approach to this issue. Ron Paul is simply stating a solution to the state that could actually work.  At least go into the matter further than just scraping the surface.

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    • clessComment by cless
      May 10, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

      gabentx, there is no other solution that to legalize, regulate, tax drugs and make work and school testing mandatory. Everything else has already been tried and failed, with drug use doubling every few years. It is our national drug demand that is bringing Mexico down, feeding the Taliban and every other foreign terrorist in the world. It is corrupting our law enforcement and courts. It drives our insurance costs from thefts to pay for it. It is taking over our work places, destroying our families and costing us billions in welfare, medicaid, and cost of hopeless law enforcement barely making a dent in it.   

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  3. windwardtackComment by windwardtack
    May 10, 2011 @ 9:54 am

    I put in ‘I support him ‘despite’ his views but that isn’t accurate. I also don’t support him specifically because of those views given that they aren’t hot buttons for me (I’m not interested in drugs and am not gay.)  What IS important to me is that Ron Paul has a consistent, 30 year long, record of Constitutionalism including in ‘unpopular’ areas. There have been times when voting against give aways was unpopular, and he did that then.
    Civil liberties such as those the TSA is violating at airports, are important to me, and Ron has a consistent record on that, too.  You can’t use the Constitution as a defense if you don’t defend it in ALL circumstances, or amend it by the procedure provided therein.
    Happens, Ron is against drug use, and I’m certain he’s against prostitution.  He has a proven record of his personal socially conservative views, as well.  But the Constitution means the federal government should not be regulating those by force. Those are state matters like murder, and rape, and education.  Ron is consistent.
    At the debate he said multiple times it would be up to the state, but Wallace baited him at how he could leave states to maybe decide to legalize heroin as if states weren’t competent to pass laws, so he articulated the belief that a state could do that, if it wanted to.  His personal view is that putting all control in the hands of the state undermines the family, church and community where people used to be interdependent, to the benefit of the country’s standards.  The government is not always the best way to handle an issue.  However, that would be for states to decide and Ron Paul and Mike Wallace and everyone here knows full well no state is going to legalize heroin.

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    • clessComment by cless
      May 10, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

      windwardtack
      Ron Paul and his son Rand are for a strict unregulated, totally dominating, wage controlling, free and open, Capitalist Society with no restrictions on profits or payments in salaries, pollution, environmental liability, class action suits, liability free death or injury related malpractice, and huge bonuses to management, accompanied by little to no income tax payments, at all.
       
      They believe in a government of capitalist, by capitalist and for capitalist. That will leave the division of wealth between the very rich and the low wage working person, with the complete dissolution of the upper working class and the middle class. There is no room for those classes in his plan for this country.

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  4. windwardtackComment by windwardtack
    May 10, 2011 @ 10:06 am

    By the way, the video circulating on this point about Ron is edited and takes out a lot of his answer.  And Wallace’s question iteslf wasn’t accurate, Ron hadn’t specifically spoken of heroin and prostitution, he had spoken generally of the drug war, of medical marijuana and personal habits and Wallace was taking that to its furthest possible stretch.  But Ron answers on principle, which I love about him, but I do realize that it suddenly made him end up appearing to want heroin legalized.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7Zp41fByE&feature=player_embedded

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  5. pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
    May 10, 2011 @ 10:07 am

    Let the poll-skewing begin. Interesting how I have never seen any of these commentors before now with the exception of our resident-troll, Cless. These people must do regular internet searches for Ron Paul polls.

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    • windwardtackComment by windwardtack
      May 10, 2011 @ 10:23 am

      Since the media covers him little, we tend to do google searches, it isn’t a conspiracy, honest.  Your favorite candidate might get more media attention, so you may not have to do that.  Take care.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      May 10, 2011 @ 10:35 am

      Stick around and read some of the other articles on this site. You might enjoy them. Fiscally, conservatives and libertarians have a lot in common. When it comes to social and defense issues, perhaps we can sway you to our side. ;-)

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    • meegsComment by meegs
      May 10, 2011 @ 12:29 pm

      There’s no need to be so defensive of your turf. We do listen to the establishment Republicanoid talking points every day. It’s pretty hard to avoid them so we’re very familiar with the stance of the average “conservative”. The reason you’ll see Ron Paul supporters responding to articles on Ron Paul and not much else is because we’re really not interested in the same old dishonest, inconsistent rhetoric from regular GOP folk.

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    • lotharioComment by lothario
      May 10, 2011 @ 7:23 pm

      Unfortunately for your case, most Ron Paul supporters believe in individual rights…without compromise.  I can only speak for myself, but I believe in pure non-aggression in all aspects of society – that means that every transaction of every kind, is voluntary.  There’s only one political affiliation that adheres to these purely moral ideals…all others are simply shades of coercion in the most logical sense.  Feel free to settle for your form of coercion, but I’ll always stand for uncompromising freedom.

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    • kcris1128Comment by kcris1128
      November 12, 2011 @ 12:03 am

      I do regular searches for Ron Paul, not his polls. I enjoy reading what he has to say, his message really hit home for me, and as previously mentioned Ron Paul information is not readily available via typical political information sources. I also enjoy these forums because I get to talk in depth about the issues, the national budget for example. Who is willing to cut the most the fastest? Who is willing to except a annual equal to our median national income? Who has been named the Champion of the Constitution? Yeah, that would be Ron Paul. I have read about Cain, Romney, Perry, and Gingrich, they just don’t cut the mustered for me. I am not looking for more of the same, I’m looking for improvement. For that I search the internet, and I just keep finding Ron Paul! 

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  6. pafreedomComment by pafreedom
    May 10, 2011 @ 11:13 am

    Ron Paul is today’s modern Founding Father. The Founders would be appalled at all of the federal agencies like the DEA that have waste, raise spending, and invades personal liberties. Not to mention this agencies are unconstitutional. These are state matters.
    Furthermore, Ron Paul is not in favor of these practices he simply realizes that the bigger threat would be an unconstitutional warfare/welfare state funded by the Federal Reserve and resulting in the end of the dollar and our once great country. Please read his books and The Founding Fathers/Constitution.

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  7. antistatismComment by antistatism
    May 10, 2011 @ 11:44 am

    Ron Paul is a man of principle.  He’s been the most consistent politician I’ve tracked, and the most principled on Constitutional matters.   And really, that’s what it’s all about.  We’d not be in our current bad fiscal state, as a nation, if the Constitution had been strinctly adhered to.  Article 1, Section 8 is very clear, and any remedial reading of it is equally clear – regardless of what some politicized Court ruling has suggested.  If you want to tax and spend for anything outside the list given, a Constitutional amendment is required (also see 10th Amendment).

    I find it amazing that so many think him a loon.  I guess this is just one more example of how far we’ve wandered from our founding principles.

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  8. meegsComment by meegs
    May 10, 2011 @ 12:21 pm

    Guess what folks? Those “college kids” and “internet people” are actually the young people of America. I and the other Ron Paul supporters I know are not “college kids”. We are young professional Americans with young families. We are the future. The establishment GOP thrives on the hyped fear of muslims, the hyped fear of drugs, the fear of homosexuals ad nauseum.. The GOP base is an aging and shrinking base. It is the past.

    Ron Paul shows us that there is an alternative to giant government bureaucracies, foreign aid, foreign military intervention and occupation and the disastrous big government programs to prohibit substances and personal choices. The alternative is called Liberty. It means that individuals make their own choices on what to do with their lives as long as they are not harming anyone else.

    When you understand the philosophy of liberty the answer to the problems our society faces becomes very clear. It’s not about achieving a “utopia”. It’s about having faith in free markets, the rule of law and individual liberty as the best choice we have. 

    It’s not Ron Paul that is crazy. What is crazy is continuing to vote for these empty GOP suits that sell their souls to the giant corporations and the military industrial complex and expecting a different result.  

    Anyway, the GOP is a dinosaur and it’s on it’s last legs so I think authors like the author of this article should stop being so cocky when it comes to addressing the future of American politics: Ron Paul and Liberty.

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  9. MarcusComment by Marcus
    May 10, 2011 @ 1:32 pm

    Ron Paul has the virtue of consistency of principle.  That would be totally lost on the phony “conservatives” who are primarily interested in hijacking the government to impose their narrow-minded personal opinions on others.  These CINO’s (Conservatives in Name Only) have no respect for the individual freedom championed by great leaders like Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.  Their actions have needlessly alienated millions of Americans from the conservative cause.  (And, by the way, when did getting married become a “vice”?)

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  10. deburkhardtComment by deburkhardt
    May 10, 2011 @ 2:07 pm

    Both the Federal and State Government derive large sums of funds from Alcohol, Tobacco, and Prescription drugs.   First as a medical professional; Ron Paul MD, OBY/GYN and his son; Rand Paul MD Othamologist have written many prescriptions for legit medical conditions!  Funny how many POLITICOs and Media types know so little about the inner workings of Medicine, drugs, and healthcare! 

    Actually, the use of Heroin and Cocaine are down, but the ABUSE of Prescription drugs is rising.  Maybe we should ban them also!  Smoking and Drinking contribute to most of the deaths in this country and around the world,  tried to ban them!

    With 36,000 deaths annually in Mexico, and thousands more elsewhere due to a continual failed “War on Drugs’!  You would think that intelligent conservatives would search for more logical solutions!  

    Do you think that if we can halt HIV, produce Medicine for a variety of diseases, Vaccines that protect from illnesses and have been one of the main factors of increased longevity in America?  That we could medically address addiction to smoking, alcohol, and ILLEGAL DRUGS.   Gee, if the demand is lowered than the supply dries up, novel thought!  Where is the FDA????  Why an ATF and DEA????
    If the States can control Cigarettes and Liquor should not they do the same with DRUGS, etc.  Last I heard Prostitution was legal in parts of NV, and gay marriage in several STATES.

    Are there not LAWs to protect against the infrigement of rights by others:  murder, stealing, consequences of DRUG use, etc.   But if someone wants to self-destruct on Alcohol, Smoking, Sex, Drugs, Food (another drug),  should it be their right or maybe the family can intervene with medical professionals to affect help?   A vaccine against cocaine or heroin might be in order, just like Antabuse for Drinking.  Or a reservation like the Federal Government threw the Indians on, (the ones that were not slaughtered for the 50 years after the Civil War), (they suffer heavily from Alcohol abuse)  to leave habitual users on to fend for themselves and not harm society? 

    Dr Paul is no more for Drug use, Prostitution, and Gay Marriage  by the individual than the average moralistic American, and he is for protecting Society from any harmful effects.  He has probably during his medical practice seen the dire consequences of all the ABOVE!  But do we regulate the activities of people if they have no direct effect on the rights of others?  I believe most States have eliminated Sodomy laws, but we still have laws protecting Children from sexual explotation!   As a Medical Professional one of the roles we employ is to educate, guide and direct.  But would never take away someone’s cigars, beer, sodas, candy by force, even though all of these are detrimental to the person’s health!  And a potential economic liability!  Gee, do you think if moral hazard and personal responsibility were not nannied by the Big Government the vast majority would learn and grow up! 

    David Burkhardt DDS

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  11. lotharioComment by lothario
    May 10, 2011 @ 6:41 pm

    Poor poll – I support Ron Paul because of his all encompassing stance on liberty.  Gay marriage, prostitution, and drugs are mere symptoms of a doctrine that protects individual rights.  It’s because of Ron’s impeccable understanding of individual rights and liberty that he has formulated his stance on these issues, as well as his stance on foreign policy and the federal reserve/monetary policy (granted, the latter is also a result of his expertise and fluency in austrian economics).  So the poll option that should be there is: because of his uncompromising protection of all individual rights.

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  12. manofconvictionComment by Brad
    May 12, 2011 @ 7:16 pm

    People don”t appreciate Constitutionally minded folks on this site, enjoy your 1st amendment right while we do the heavy lifting. You feel good about voting for the lesser of 2 evils, that is your right, but remember, the lesser of 2 evils is still evil.

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  13. kcris1128Comment by kcris1128
    November 11, 2011 @ 11:38 pm

    Ron Paul dose not condone to use of hard drugs, he simply makes a very good point, drug laws are not the government’s job. The War on Drugs costs tax payers a great deal of money, and put many non violent offenders behind bars. I do not want to pay taxes to keep harmless people in jail. A person is allowed to drink, allowed to be drunk, the line is crossed when their intoxication puts others in danger. I believe drugs should be treated just as alcohol and tobacco are. This would be both cheaper and more constitutional. Telling an American they they can’t get married to whom ever they choose or do what they like within their own home is just as much of an infringement of rights as telling them they can not own a gun or pray in school. How can we fight for our rights while stripping fellow Americans of theirs? Less government please, more Ron Paul.

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