Chavez: What Could Go Wrong In NY Terror Trial?

[Terri]

By Linda Chavez
November 20, 2009

If there was ever a more irresponsible decision by a U.S. attorney general than Eric Holder's decision to try the mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attack and four others as common criminals in a civilian court in New York City, I can't recall it. He is gambling with the nation's security and providing a platform that will give aid and comfort to the enemy at a time of war. And he is doing so with no discernible benefit, least of all to showcase the strength of our judicial system.

Does Eric Holder remember the most infamous criminal trial of the 20th century, the 1995 trial of O.J. Simpson for the murder of his estranged wife, Nicole, and Ronald Goldman? There are obvious differences between a criminal murder trial in a state court and one tried in federal district court -- and, the O.J. trial featured incompetent prosecutors who tried their case before an inept judge -- but there are also problems inherent in the system that may not be avoided. No matter what Holder says about failure to convict not being an option, our entire legal system is based on the presumption of innocence of the accused and there are simply no guarantees.

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[RW]

Ya wanna talk conspiracy theories?

Here's one...

o not only allowed Holder to bring KSM to NYC, but ordered it to keep the heat off himself and the conspiracy theories swirling around himself.

THEN, in order to be sure KSM, a muslim, is acquitted, o announces, "he's probably guilty." THAT could lead to an immediate motion for either mistrial or dismissal of all charges. WHY?Because under the Constitution by which KSM is supposedly charged under, he is presumed INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, and here our prez has made his proclamation, without benefit of trial and evidence. KSM walks.

IF this happens, then o can throw the entire blame on Holder, firing him, and ANY charges against ANYBODY Holder is supposed to be looking at or has filed, are automatically dismissed, ie the New Black Panthers' intimidation of White voters.

o is clean, and Holder goes back to his former firm, and lotsa money.

KSM is free to mastermind yet another attack on America and so it goes...on and on and on....

THAT'S my theory and I'm stickin' to it.

[Centurion LIV]

"And those who are most likely to be screened out during the process known as voir dire are educated jurors who are well informed about current events."

This reminds me of when I was once called for jury duty about ten years ago.

A Jury pool of about 600 was assembled and a rumor went through the jail resulting in many plea deals.

There were still two cases needing to be settled. We were split into two groups of 300 to select a jury.

The case I was put in the pool for involved an anglo woman who while talking on her cell phone rear-ended an elderly Hispanic couple who were stopped at a stop sign.

The lawyers asked us, one by one if we had been in accidents, had experience or family members in law enforcement and so forth. Yes, one accident, three drivers, three vehicles, I was the only one determined not at fault, I was the only one not under influence of drugs or alcohol, and I was the only one insured. Yes, I had experience in law enforcement and my son in law was and still is in law enforcement.

Finally, at about 4:00 that day, a jury was selected. I was among those eliminated. I recall looking at those chosen to remain and thought "those people have the brains of a box of rocks." The sharpest people in the room were "unselected" to not be on the jury.

I really wanted to do it. I was disappointed. On the other hand, looking back, I suppose that they paid me a real compliment.

I've not been called for jury duty since.

[antiliberalism]

We've tried this before, it bit us in the collective hind quarters. Holder is a moron or a criminal (his old law firm has defended several terrorists). There is no excuse, rhyme or reason for this decision, and every reason NOT to do this.

Holder is not fit for his office.

[jerrag]

I guess I am looking at this a bit differently, I think the reason for this trial is so the Obama Administration will have another platform to criticize President Bush and the Republicans for their actions after 9/11.

Now the President and Atty Gen saying that this man is guilty and will be executed before there is even a jury sworn, has a ring of things that happened in Nazi Germany or under the Communists in the old Soviet Union.

I have felt for awhile now that Obama and his minions are working very hard to bring Obama in as the first dictator of the United States of America. He will probably find some reason for marshal law and go forward from there, suspending the Constitution (after all the Democrats now look on that document as next to ass wipe anyhow) and taking full power from the other branches so he can reform our once great nation into one that will more probably resemble the old Communist Soviet Union then any other form of government.

There are already rumbelings of an underground forming to defend our nation, not that i would ever consider such a thing, well not right now anyhow but I can see it forming, and quickly.

What Obama and his boys don't realize is that we, the people of these United States of America still have arms, and although may folk in the cities have long forgotten how to aim a rifle, we in the heartland still pride ourselves on our marksmanship.

[Ironbear]

Chairman Hussein wants it this way because he wants his Islamic buddy to walk and to make George Bush look bad. I look for all kinds of Top Secret Information to be brought out by the defense Shysters in the trials of KSM and the other Muslim Goons. The messiah wants to show all his Muslim buddies how caring and compassionent his Bananna Republic is as opposed to that hated old George Bush. After this all over, Barry and Holder ought to be tried and found guilty for treason.

[Lotus503]

I'm afraid that the case will be thrown out on the first day because the Miranda rights were not read to the defendent(s) at the time of legal detention and that Habeas Corpus was not followed.

If the judge does decide to proceed with the trial even though these laws were not followed, the presidence could damage our legal system.

Am I wrong?

[TuffRinAK]

(if) o announces, "he's probably guilty."-immediate motion for either mistrial or dismissal

I'm glad you brought that up RW and heres why.

Yesterday, I had Fox news running in the back ground and twice I heard what sounded to me like legal jargon relative to this very point. Something that went: "-were filling (papers) to exonerate/acquit-". Maybe some one else picked up on this, to.

I tried looking on Fox and all kinds of queries but couldn't find the clip. But, yeah-Holders pretty much sat there blab'en his mouth, suggesting their already guilty and if bammy pipes-up with any dialogue....you may be right. They walk before they get to court.

[Terri]

Is this what you're looking for?

[Brujo Blanco]

I suspect that this will be an opportunity for information about GWB and Cheney to come out. Information that may be used against them in a trial. Holder has indicated that he may allow US citizens to be tried by foreign courts. I really believe that if there is a hint of an opening they will go for Bush's throat. If not GWB and Cheney perhaps they may attempt to take some of therir subordinates down.