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06-03-2008, 08:29 AM
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McCain to try to claim mantle of change
By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press
June 3, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) -- With voters sour on the status quo, Republican John McCain plans to spend the next five months arguing that he has a history of fighting to reform government and that Democrat Barack Obama talks of change with nothing to show for it.
''I have a record of doing that, not a rhetoric of doing that,'' McCain told an audience last week, claiming he long has taken a bipartisan approach to fixing the country's ills while suggesting that Obama simply offers empty promises of working across party lines.
The four-term Arizona senator was forecasting his overarching general election theme against the fresh-faced first-term Illinois senator.
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06-03-2008, 02:43 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
Some times I think he has gone a little too far in reaching accross the isle. Co- authoring an immigration bill with ted kennedy was way over the top, but I think he learned a lesson there, and I will forgive him for that,but the Mcain Fiengold was too much, and til today I don't forgive him for that one.like it.
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06-04-2008, 02:16 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
He is such a flip flopper, the man is worse than Kerry ever was, iam sorry but the republican party needs to grow some balls and take it away from McClown! The man is delusional, he is so pathetic i cant beleive that this is what we have and iam not holding my nose and voting for this non republican.
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06-04-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
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iam sorry but the republican party needs to grow some balls and take it away from McClown!
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What you need to do is grow some knowledge of how the system works.
Yes, it needs some changes in the primary system but just exactly WHO do you think is going to overturn the primaries to put in another candidate?
HOW do you think such a replacement would be chosen?
WHY don't you tell us these things when you post instead of just demanding that SOMEBODY do SOMETHING to make you happy?
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06-04-2008, 03:11 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
Terri,
I dont need to educate myself when it comes to the process, iam suggesting that the party deny McClown the nomination. I could also claim that parties are simply unconstitutional and are nothing more than factions. If and at the convention, if the republicans wanted to give the nomination to someone else they could do just that as they did what 3 times before when Reagan tried to get the nomination and failed.
I wont vote for McClown, i might be republican but i will not hold nose for someone who is not a republican and is only a republican in name. Iam sure there are others that feel the same way though wont stand up and say it like myself. If anyone thinks we are going with this Clown, is only delusional as much as McClown is. He is unrealistic, arrogant and unstable and this is the best we can put forth? Give me a break, we have already lost.
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06-04-2008, 03:23 PM
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I dont need to educate myself when it comes to the process, iam suggesting that the party deny McClown the nomination.
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How do you see that taking place? Since you don't need to educate yourself you should be able to give us the process.
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I could also claim that parties are simply unconstitutional and are nothing more than factions.
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I could claim that's it's 1:00 am instead of afternoon but it wouldn't deny McCain the nomination and neither will your claim.
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If and at the convention, if the republicans wanted to give the nomination to someone else they could do just that as they did what 3 times before when Reagan tried to get the nomination and failed.
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Who is "the republicans"? Tell us the process of overturning the primary elections.
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I wont vote for McClown, i might be republican but i will not hold nose for someone who is not a republican and is only a republican in name.
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That's your right.
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Iam sure there are others that feel the same way though wont stand up and say it like myself.
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I've seen plenty of people say so.
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If anyone thinks we are going with this Clown, is only delusional as much as McClown is. He is unrealistic, arrogant and unstable and this is the best we can put forth? Give me a break, we have already lost.
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Here's a fact for you. In January either Obama or McCain will be president. We will all live with that result for the next 4 years no matter if we vote, if we sitout or if we hold our breath until we turn blue.
I fully realize that many conservatives prefer a Marxist to a RINO. Good luck with that.
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06-04-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
Terri..remind me never to tangle with you....
You draw blood!
You are right...it will be either one in January...and even though I have been in the desire to form (vote) a third party, common sense prevails....and I realize my only hope is 2012...and maybe Bobby Jindal
I can wait...but not if we are under a marxist/socialist president...we may not have any country left
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06-04-2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
It's not my intention to draw blood but I am sick to death of conservatives living in fantasy.
McCain is the nominee.
No, I don't like it either but we need to live in reality. He isn't going to be tossed out at the convention and anyone who really understands the process and the mood of Republicans knows why that cannot happen.
I don't blame anyone for not wanting to vote for McCain. Personally, I'd rather drink vinegar but the situation is what it is.
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I can wait...but not if we are under a marxist/socialist president...we may not have any country left
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You've summed up the bottom line.
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06-04-2008, 04:36 PM
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Terri, #6 I fully realize that many conservatives prefer a Marxist to a RINO. Good luck with that.
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HUH? I'm sure you must have meant "some?" I personally don't know, and have never known, any conservative that would prefer a marxist to [even] a RINO. The bottom line is that we have four years to get a genuine conservative candidate to run in 2012. Meanwhile, we live with the least destructive candidate to the country. We ALL need to get conservatives into Congress!!
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06-04-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: McCain to try to claim mantle of change
A change back to the policies of Ronald Reagan would be good. I'm pretty sure Maverick is not talking about such a change.
Show me one case of any GOP presidential candidate succeeding by trying to co-opt Democrat party policies, programs, or philosophies. It's a road to oblivion.
A dumb move, Senator. Wise up!
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