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Old 05-09-2008, 08:38 AM
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Bill and Hillary Clinton have always believed that they're very different than the rest of us. Over their more than 30 years in politics together, they've learned one important and consistent lesson: that rules don't matter. Rules don't apply to them. Rules are for other people. Rules can be bent, changed, manipulated.

And that philosophy has worked very well for them.

So it's particularly ironic that they are now turning to the Democratic Party Rules Committee to try and steal the presidential nomination that Hillary has already definitively lost to Barack Obama in the popular vote, the delegate count, and the total number of states.

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Old 05-09-2008, 11:48 AM
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The real reason, Clinton wants to ensure Obama loses so she can run as the the Dem in 2012. All the rest of that article is just so much blah, blah, blah!
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:52 AM
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Thomas, I can't argue much with your statement, except for Hilary's age - she's already in her 60's; in 2012, she'll be too old, although she could run for re-election then, if she gets elected this year.

But you miss something more fundamental about the Clintons: they have an insatiable thirst for power. They had a deal with each other: she helps him get elected President, then he helps her get elected. If/When she does get elected, I wouldn't be surprised if she nominates him for SCOTUS - I'm sure he'd like that just fine, because then he could spend the rest of his life making rules for the rest of us.
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*The Clintons may continue to soldier on, but they have few allies and that number is steadily eroding. The formerly formidable Clinton 'fear factor' is long gone:

Analysis: Clinton has lost her fear factor
By Bob Cusack, The Hill

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has lost her fear factor, arguably the former first lady’s most potent political weapon since she launched her presidential bid nearly 16 months ago.

Lawmakers in recent weeks have been flocking to her rival, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), despite the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy and Obama’s contentious “bitter” comments. In addition, they have been outspoken in their criticism of Clinton as she has vowed to stay in the race.

That is in sharp contrast to much of 2007, when she was viewed as the inevitable Democratic nominee and the odds-on favorite to be the next commander in chief. Lawmakers at the state and local level endorsed the New York senator throughout last year, as did many Democratic political strategists and members of Congress.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:56 AM
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Hillary will get out and in exchange for dropping out and throwing her support to him, she will be promised the AG position and then she will be nominated and confirmed by the Democrat Senate majority to the Supreme Court replacing Ginsberg.

Then she can finally dump her philandering husband without any political consequence.

Write it down, bank on it and remember where and when you heard it first.
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Write it down, bank on it and remember where and when you heard it first.
OK, since we're theorizing, what are they gonna do with Slick? He's not gonna just ride off into the sunset. And aren't we ignoring that the Democrat Party has had a gutfull of the Clintons? Admittedly, playing political ping-pong from the bench is right out of the lib playbook, but Justice Hillary with her socialistic agenda could be a real embarrassment in that regard. Not saying you're wrong, but it's a problematic surmisal. Obama is the problem. He's a disaster waiting to happen as president, but he's going to win at the rate McCain is running his disasterously flawed campaign. And to tell it like it is, McCain has little agenda to run on. It's almost identical to the Dems'.
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Hillary won't get out because there is "one more
shoe to drop" on Obama.


It is the Clintons, what else would you expect.
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Hillary's campaign is $25 million in debt, of which $11.6 million is money Hillary has lent to her own campaign.

As she continues to "soldier on" does she really think that Obama is going to offer a peace offering and "help" her repay that debt? If he does, I'm pretty sure the first $11.6 million or so will go to repay Hillary; creditors for the remaining $13.4 million or so will have to fight over anything that remains, probably with the Clintons. If I were one of those lenders, I wouldn't rely on the Simon & Schuster advance for Hillary's next book (How I Lost the 2008 Election and (Almost Lost) most of my Money).

I can't imagine any sane person picking either Clinton to be a "team player" in any administration, either as Vice President where the threat of having either Clinton next in succession should the President meet an untimely death is too chillingly reminiscent of "I Claudius"; or in a cabinet post.

No, Mrs. Clinton should start campaigning for re-election to the Senate. She should start with all those upstate communities with high crime rates, soaring unemployment, and vacated factories and office buildings, the communities she promised to bring huge job growth if she won her first election campaign for the Senate eight years ago.
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I keep closing my eyes hoping the Clintons will simply go away...but when I open them again...they're still there!

What am I doing wrong?

I'm sure Hillory has lost to Obama as it seems so far...but Hang On Hillory is still on that worn out nag (nightmare) beating it to death with her whip even though the "field" is way out in front.

Am I missing something here?
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Old 05-10-2008, 12:31 PM
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Hillary's campaign debt is a non-issue. Didn't the Clinton's earn 100 million over the last few years? I think they did.

Lending her campaign 11 mil is not a big deal and the rest of the debt will stay with the campaign. Besides, with her knowledge of the futures market she should earn that back in less than two months.

Heck, John Glenn still hasn't paid all of his campaign debts from his ill-fated run in the 76 election. No one cares. Ohio kept electing him until he retired. Then he got a free ride on the shuttle.

As for, "...what will they do with Slick?" Hillary will dump him and he'll go on with his speaking tours and other escapades. You know, philandering, courting trailer trash and hangin' out with his bimbo security team inside hotel rooms full of booze, and sex toys.

They might even crown him 'King' of France.

Nope I think Hillary will make a deal with Obama for the AG post (if he's elected) and the promise of a SCOTUS nomination to replace the first lib judge retirement. It's a lifetime position of pure political power and that's really what this 'woman' is all about. She doesn't want to be a Senator. That means campaigning and being subservient to elections and being accountable to voters. Did she even pass any legislation in her first six years as a senator? This is just a stepping stone.

As AG she can investigate anyone she hates. (Another stepping stone.) But, as Justice Rodham she can influence this country for generations. She'll have line-item veto in the form of a black robe, she can rewrite the constitution with her fellow lib justices. She'll only have to persuade four people as opposed to 59 fellow senators and she'll have a lifetime appointment with no re-election obligations.

That's true power and it's the kind of power she covets most.

Nope... it's the smart political move and it's win-win for the party. It solves the acrimony, it satisfies the nags and it brings peace and harmony to the media. The key will be ensuring the election of Obama, but I don't believe that will be hard when the R's have the lowest voter turnout in years with McCain as the head of the ticket. He's as bad as Dole and Ford. Maybe worse.
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