Al Gore Still Thinking of 2004?

[jonessa2]

<span style='color:navy'>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:01:55 -0800
Subject: Al Gore Still Thinking of 2004?
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Dec. 7, 2003 Insider Report from NewsMax.com


1. Al Gore Still Thinking of 2004?

Al Gore is still thinking about running in 2004.

That's the verdict of a very famous journalist who bumped into the former Clinton Vice-President in New York recently.

Our journalist friend has known Al for decades. Al has always been a bit cold and aloof to him, he tells us.

Not this time. Warm, fuzzy, friendly. A new Al. For a new election year maybe.

The journalist told us that after the meeting he concluded, &quot;He's got to be running.&quot;

But the deadline for New Hampshire has passed. Al has no organization and no money.

Our source says Al isn't thinking of running in the primaries. He's apparently thinking that there is a very real possibility no one candidate will have a lock on the nomination.

Dean may come in with the most votes, but won't have a majority.

After the first convention vote, delegates will be free to vote for the Democratic candidate of their choice.

Journalist friend says Hillary's camp is already seeing 2004 as a real possibility under this scenario. Now Al thinks it just may happen too.

Stay tuned.</span>

[markinthedark]

Al Gore is dead broke, thank God! But the Clintonski's are rolling in dough, Red Army dough! And a convention draft is on the way. The Lying B*tch swears up and down every week that she is not running, but her money people are logging triple over-time! You figuire it out. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif

[midnight patriots]

She's gonna run if they find a way to beat Bush.

[jonessa2]

I was kind of thinking later, that there was quite a rift between hil and bill. There would be little money coming from them. (Unless he knows where the bones are buried). It would have to come from the DNC. And I cannot picture hil under any man, muchless one with ta-ta's. (punjabi for balls)

And then again, 'ol Tipper is not going to allow her husband to throw away all his Christian values they 'accummlated' throughout their years of marriage and avowed to have raised her family with.

http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/witch.gif doesn't really want to run in 'o4, because she likes a sure thing. So she is like five blind lesbians in a fishmarket...totally confused.

Sooooo. That seems to leave it up to dean. With his lead, I don't think http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/witch.gif would try to subter...whatever that word is.

[gww1210]

Now, this is sure to rustle some Conservative feathers, but here it is:

Gore got his count -and his machine RECOUNT (and some add'l hand counts to boot) in 2000, Fla. (I was there @ FSU as a student when it went down), so he shouldn't have a gripe (or a chance in 2004, he he), but doesn't the LAW apply to all, even Democrats in 2002, like Janet Reno?

Therefore, the &quot;Rule of Law&quot; is more important than Republican politics, and I note, by way of:

http://hometown.aol.com/gww1210/index.html#recount

http://www.geocities.com/gordon_watts32313/index.html#recount

that, Janet Reno was due a recount, and illegally denied. The fact she's a Dem doesn't stop the law -nor does it stop this bold lawsuit by a Republican to enforce Florida &quot;recount&quot; laws -even against her lame will!!!. Neighbors and other observers, while you all might have a differening opinion (don't know?), I'm sure you understand that the law must be followed, so long as it, like, doesn't kill someone. (It doesn't.)

Happy Winter Holidays, 2003, Big Dog! fellow-Republicans

PS: I'm not liberal, just becasue I'm forcing a recount of Reno's votes. -In fact, I'm also forcing local authorities of all types in &quot;novel&quot; legal approaches, to grant Terri Schiavo the protection to which she is entitles. (Details of this, also on site on The Register, whose link appears above.

[B]GW Watts (R-Fla.)[B] http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Terri]

From a CNN story dated 9/13/02:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/reno.mcbride/

Quote[/b] ]David Host, a spokesman for Smith, said manual recounts are only triggered when the margin between two candidates is less than one-quarter of 1 percent. McBride was ahead of Reno by six-tenths of 1 percent, according to unofficial returns filed with the Elections Canvassing Commission on Wednesday.

But far more importantly, if you are looking to right injustice in the world of politics or to throw judges out of office, I suggest you find a more worthy cause. Maybe you could start with Sandra Day O'Conner.

[Terri]

To bring this thread back on the topic, I do think Al Gore will challenge Hillary in 2008. Should be fun. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[lpjortner]

Mr. Watts: The fact that Janet Reno has given this up and moved on herself should be a clue to give it up. Second, this has nothing to do with Republican politics, so why should conservative or Republican feathers be ruffled.

Continuing a lawsuit like this is just frivolous, especially since Reno doesn't even think it worthwhile. Perhaps she conclued that she probably lost anyway. Perhaps she figured out the below.

If I recall correctly, I believe that:

1. The Dems were much better served by having McBride run v. Jeb Bush than Janet Reno, who was running at less than 40% in polls at the time of the primary.

2. Virtually unknown McBride had pulled even with Reno and was polling much higher v. Jeb Bush than Reno ever did at the time of the primary. The very fact that McBride were neck-and-neck in the Dem primary shows that her campaign had failed despite (or more probably because of) her tenure as Clinton's AG. She couldn't even get a clear majority of Dem primary voters. She had no chance in the general election against Jeb Bush, even if she had won.

3. Finally, McBride consistently polled better against Jeb Bush than Reno ever did. It is clear to anyone with reasonable objectivity that Reno was baggage dragging down the Dems' chances against Jeb Bush at the time of the primary.

Given the above, I think any contention that Jeb Bush was illegitimately elected Governor due to this Dem primary dispute and given these circumstances is absurd and this lawsuit's continuation is a disservice to the people of Florida. Rule of law is important, but so is having a point.

I can't believe that Gov. Bush was anything but disappointed that Reno didn't prevail, because he actually had to run against McBride, as opposed to coasting against Reno.

On the actual topic, which is Algore, I think his antics are going to make him less and less viable and he seems headed for Harold Stassen status in the Dem Party for 2004 and 2008. Hilary's real contenders in 2008 might be people like Gov. Ed Rendell (PA), maybe Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh (IN), assorted liberal fringers like Kucinich, Al Sharpton.

Terri: I'm sure Gore and the rose-colored plexiglass that houses his massive ego convinces him that he can win the nomination again at some point. But I don't see reality permitting a serious run. I don't see Gore even getting $ in 2004 or 2008 because he really has no base of support at this point. I think he's even weirded out the people in his own party. He's can try to play the elder statesman, but he's more like the Dem's elderly uncle who's just not quite right.

[midnight patriots]

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If Hillary did get the nomination for 04 against Bush, would debates be cancelled? Didn't she have problems debating during her senate run?

[rfurtkamp]

I'm wondering if we'll see a sick rehash of &quot;Clinton/Gore&quot; in 2004.

Gore endorses Dean to make it look like he's playing nice.

Hillary keeps her nose in the public eye.

They draft the pair of 'em (and I'd say it's a tossup which would receive the VP slot) and try to recapture old glory.

[Floridaguy]

Gordon,

Welcome to the Forum! Thanks for posting. Some of my favorite people are Lakeland Republicans. You should highly consider joining the Polk County YRs; if you don't already know how to reach them, let me know. It is a good group. Are you in Adam's (Putnam) Congressional district? Know any citrus growers up there? I know a few (hundred). http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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[gww1210]

(1) Thank you for moving my posts around to the right place, Pist-Board Administrator, Terr.

(2) Yes, Floridaguy, I do live in Adam's district, but I don't know how much time I'd have for extra stuff. -I'm not even looking for a job right now becasue I'm trying to fix a few messes, one involving another Terri, Terri Schiavo.

(3) lpjortner, you make a good point: Just becasue it's legal, that still doesn't mean that it's always a good idea -and, Paul the Apostle Paul agrees with you:

1 Corinthians 10:23: &quot;All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.&quot;

1 Corinthians 6:12 &quot;All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.&quot;

Nonetheless, I wish to make a few replies:

&quot;The fact that Janet Reno has given this up...&quot;
ANS: Well, this sets bad precedent -and I'm not going to be denied my legal (&amp; moral) rights due to Reno's liberal laziness!

&quot;Second, this has nothing to do with Republican politics...&quot;
ANS: Right, but there are some whose feathers would rustle!

&quot;1. The Dems were much better served by having McBride...&quot;
Flash Answers: Well, that was bold according to polls, and although polls are usually right, we all remember what happened to the first President GEORGE Bush: Highest popularity ratings since GEORGE Washington! -Yet, still lost to slick willie!

&quot;2. Virtually unknown McBride had pulled even with Reno...&quot;
Ans.: You kind of repeated yourself, and again, we never really know who would have won if the laws'd been followed. (And IBID on point three that you make.)

The Democrats are stupid for not supporting me now -because this is their only real chance of winning anything, and this one is legit. Fellow-Republicans were stupid becasue, as you say, Jeb! could have REALLY won in a landslide, but I guess Big Jeb! just wanted to look like a nice guy and face a &quot;tough&quot; challenger in McBride, huh?

PS: One more good reason for this lawsuit: My attorney fees! (No, I'm not asking for a &quot;liberal&quot; free handout, but after all the hastle, I changed my mind and now want to get paid -and actually, this is a good legal argument, should this go on so long as to be &quot;moot:&quot; --the &quot;Collateral Consequences&quot; arguments in Goodwin v State, which dealt w. moot cases.)

While we wait on Florida 1st DCA to rule on this -and maybe uphold the Rule of Law, yes, I do kind of think that Al Gore is kind of like the &quot;weird cousin&quot; -or crazy rich uncle!!!

Anyhow, for maybe not the latest, but still new and unheard of stuff in the Terri Schiavo lawsuit -and other Conservative! matters (some, no doubt, MORE worthy than than my &quot;recount for Reno&quot; lawsuit)

http://hometown.aol.com/Gww1210

or, my GeoCities mirror:

http://www.geocities.com/Gordon_Watts32313

Thank you for the ability to express varied viewpoints, and HAPPY HOLIDAYS! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

GW Watts, Republican-at-Large, Florida

[gww1210]

Oops, forgot one thing:

Terri, you're right: one-quarter percent to trigger the hand (manual) recounts, and McBride did lead by six-tenths of percent, but later, whan all the votes were counted, Reno was behind by about four-tenth's percent, &amp; it should have triggered the &quot;automatic machine reocunt&quot; like Al Gore got, but didn't becasue Former Secratary of State, Jim Smith (Conservative Democrat who replaced Kathrine Harris)) decided to not follow the law like Harris did!

PS: Harris still, morally, should have recounted the whole state by hand like JFK/Nixon cliffhanger in Hawaii -or a recent case in Washington State w. Senator.. uh, Maria Cantwell, was that her name? But, Harris did follow the &quot;letter&quot; of the law!

Gordon