Cheney v. Obama on torture

[Terri]

Politico

Former Vice President Cheney last month formally asked the Central Intelligence Agency to de-classify top secret documents he believes show harsh interrogation techniques such as waterboarding helped prevent terrorist attacks against U.S. targets, according to a source familiar with the effort.

Cheney Monday night disclosed the request but did not point out it was made before President Barack Obama unsealed the top-secret “torture memos.”

Cheney's decision sets up an potentially dramatic showdown between the president who believes the techniques amounted to unwise and immoral torture and the former vice president who believes the interrogations saved lives.

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[Goatlady]

As I stated in an earlier comment, the CIA has nothing on the show "Fear Factor". If these techniques were torture, then the Al Qaeda guys must be real wimps. I am sure Obama would consider tickling you until you are out of breath torture. If so, my dad tortured me a lot when I was a kid.

[Pascasha]

Obama, however, has rejected what he calls “a false choice between our safety and our ideals."

Who is this man who talks about American ideals? Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth. He conveniently rejects our ideals when it fits his agenda (involvement of the gov't in the private sector).

I think an understanding that dates back to our founding fathers, that we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it's easy, but also when it's hard.”


So, we're to observe core standards of conduct that our founding fathers laid out...? You mean like the ones about the right to bear arms? You mean basic equality for all and not special rights for minorities?

Researching his memoirs, former Vice President Dick Cheney is pushing the CIA to declassify files that he claims would vindicate the CIA’s use of coercive interrogation techniques that President Barack Obama has banned.

I doubt this administration is willing to put out any type of publication that supports anything the Bush administration did. Obama's team isn't about the American people, it is about Obama's team and creating a welfare nation. The next statement will be: "Who cares if America was a safer place under Bush...Who cares if America prospered under capitalism....Who cares if the government is overstepping it's bounds....Who cares if you are a true Patriot? Anyone who contradicts this Administration is an 'extremist' and needs to be watched."

[Love my Texas]

I watched Cheney on Hannity last night and will watch the rest tonight. He has more intelligence in his little finger than O and the rest of his minions. Cheney asked for a release because he knew what Obama was doing when he only released the portions of the so-called torture that he states was perpetrated by the Bush Administration. He must show what happened in that evil Bush administration, but one thing he didn't find were any beheadings.
Forget the saved lives of Americans, that is not important to the Obama administration or the fools that are the majority in Congress. Do you ever wonder why these 'do not torture people' think of when they look at the Chavez's, Fidel's, etc. that have tortured and murdered for years? They would never ever believe it or care, as they kiss the feet of these people.

[thomas]

Cheney v. Obama on torture – Talk about an unfair advantage: A heavyweight like Cheney VS a flyweight like Obama. I can hear the fly swatter now – splat!!

[Thundercat505]

ok, let me get this straight---the zero thinks that we have to show "core" values when it suits him but when it doesn't he can ignore them??? that means that he has some semblance of use for the constitution when it "suits" him???

this moron has been handed every thing on a platter and has been groomed for all of this by someone on the left so has no idea of what is moral and what isn't!! he cares not one whit whether any of this has saved american lives because in HIS morals (which are sorely lacking) it is torture. so I guess he wouldn't consider sawing a person's head off torture--or would he?? aww, it didn't hurt but just a second!!

so I guess the tickle fights my dad and I had along with the spankings for doing something wrong were torture in this idiots eyes!!!

[elmerck1]

Obama will not be a believer unless someone blows up the WH. He is a ninny and when the pepole had the tea party in Wash. the other day threw a box of tea over the fence they shut Wash down and sent a robot to get the box of tea.

[ReneeCA.]

Did anyone notice that Obama changed his mind and left the door open to prosecute people in the Bush Administration today for AFTER Cheney dropped the gauntlet on his interview with Sean Hannity last night?

The Obama Administration is also being pressured by the Move-On.org people who have collected or trying to collect 250,000 signatures asking the government to go after those that devised the plans for what they consider torture and illegality of wire tapping in the Bush Administration. I don't know if Obama or his minions are behind the Move-On
initiative or visa-versa. Like I predicted before, the Obama administration wants Bush and Cheney and will not EVER let up until they draw blood. They are mad as hell that so far they have not been able to get them but that does not stop them from continuously trying.

Once again Obama talks our of both sides of his mouth because up until now he had claimed that he would not do this but I think the man is a little ticked off!! Have you seen the latest poll numbers? Unfavorable has dropped to 54%.

[utexas]

The Big 0 will never release anything that would make the Bush administration look good. And even if he did, he would lie, obscure, and spin it to still make Bush look bad and give all the credit to himself or his cronies.

[qrayjack]

And here is the mess Obama has dished up for himself by gratutiously trying to score political points at the expense of the national security of the United States:

Obama's Intelligence Director Admits Interrogations Uncovered 'High-Value Information'

WASHINGTON — Widening an explosive debate on torture, President Barack Obama on Tuesday opened the possibility of prosecution for Bush-era lawyers who authorized brutal interrogation of terror suspects and suggested Congress might order a full investigation.

Less than a week after declaring it was time for the nation to move on rather than "laying blame for the past," Obama found himself describing what might be done next to investigate what he called the loss of "our moral bearings."

His comments all but ensured that the vexing issue of detainee interrogation during the Bush administration will live on well into the new president's term. Obama, who severely criticized the harsh techniques during the campaign, is feeling pressure from his party's liberal wing to come down hard on the subject. At the same time, Republicans including former Vice President Dick Cheney are insisting the methods helped protect the nation and are assailing Obama for revealing Justice Department memos detailing them.

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