Ron Paul's place in the party.

[BReinhold]

First off sorry if this is the wrong part of the forum I couldn't really figure out where to put this.

While we select someone to run our party, the potential chairs were asked a question about Ron Paul and his supporters. Their answers can be found here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lvyebYXOA
[ignore the tripe at the very beginning of the video although I loved the moderators handling of the topic after]

So I ask you GOPUSA how do you feel about Ron Paul and his supporters?

[Terri]

Read this thread (http://www.gopusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=566 70) for an answer to your question.

[Thundercat505]

for the most part he had one good idea during his campaign--get rid of the federal reserve system which has been a good part of our money woes right now. he had more or less "hinted" that he was anti-semetic during the run which hurt him badly.

other than that, he is brainless like the rest of them and I am not so sure about a "clean" record. he is probably like 99.0% of those in politics right now--crooked as a dogs hind leg!! one thing, if the truth hurts, don't ask cause I won't pull the punches when it comes to these idiots who think they know what is good for this country now days.

none of them have brains or gonads any more and the last one that did was reagan. they are all raised by single parents with no real good role models in my opinion!!

[lpara]

Before looking at the video I must say, Ron Paul doesn't BELONG in the Republican party.

[BReinhold]

Ah okay Terri, thanks I didn't want to post about Ron Paul over all in that thread cause I thought it was mostly about just Israel and him.

[Terri]

Your post here is fine. Just knew you'd get some insight from reading the other thread.

[schillerbjr]

Ron Paul belongs to the "HAMAS" party !

[utexas]

Who is Ron Paul?

I ask that not in ignorance but in total disdain for his having anything to do with the GOP. He is Libertarian to the core which is almost just as bad as an ultra-liberal Dimocrap. They are so far out on the Right Fringe that they are sneaking up on the Left from the other side. If anybody understands that analogy.

[OldBaldy]

[Paul] had one good idea during his campaign--get rid of the federal reserve system which has been a good part of our money woes right now.
That was the only area where I agreed with Paul also. But I don't recall where he ever proposed an alternative to replace the Fed. Something that worked and was transparent instead of secretive.

[BReinhold]

Well then to play devils advocate (although I can't defend his stance on Israel/Hamas):
He's the only politician in the party who truly is unwilling to compromise on the free market. Our current president and many of the higher ups in the party think that if we throw tax payer money are a problem it will go away... WRONG

He's been anti gun control, that seems to be to be a GOP position and one I'm damned proud of.

He's never voted for a tax increase. Not once.

He's been tough on illegal immigration.

He's for privatizing social security.

He's against government paid for universal health care.

And believe abortion is murder.


How (other than his lunacy on Hamas) is he not a Republican?
And if one issue can disallow you from the party maybe you guys should look at many other higher ups positions.

[lpara]

I thought he often sounded "lunatic" during the debates.

[BReinhold]

I thought he often sounded "lunatic" during the debates.

like when?

[Terri]

If you didn't notice it then there's a pretty good chance that nothing anyone says now would change your mind. :D

[BReinhold]

Not true. I'm simply asking what you think he said that made him sound like a lunatic in the debates.

[OldBaldy]

BR, we have been all over this before, sometimes in excruciating detail, in the primaries.

I commented earlier that I agreed with Paul regarding the Fed, and wondered if Paul ever proposed a workable alternative to replace the Fed. If you have an answer to this question I am interested (unless I must listen to hours of tedious videos).

[Terri]

Not true. I'm simply asking what you think he said that made him sound like a lunatic in the debates.
I don't know about anyone else but I'm not going to listen to hours of debates again just so I can show you what you missed the first time. Sorry.

I suggest you use the search feature and read the threads from the debates.

But really, if you support his position on Israel and his association with the 911 Truthers, and his complete lack of accomplishment what could anyone say that would change your mind?

Nothing.

[BReinhold]

But really, if you support his position on Israel and his association with the 911 Truthers, and his complete lack of accomplishment what could anyone say that would change your mind?

I don't those things are crazy. His position on Israel is simply wrong, and he never said he agreed with the 9/11 truthers although he did admit a number of them supported him.


Patch, have you been reading the thread?
Several of us have mentioned reasons.

Support whomever you like .

Come back after Election Day and we'll see if you were right.

After reading a couple of the threads the only thing it seems you didn't like about him was that a lot of his supporters were nut jobs and that he said if we hadn't been in the middle east pre 9/11, 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

As far as things go I understand why you don't like those things, I don't either but to dismiss everything he says cause he says one or two crazy things?

And you said to the person you were debating with to come back after the election and you'd see who was right. Well... Patch was. The party ran a fake conservative and lost.

[Terri]

And you said to the person you were debating with to come back after the election and you'd see who was right. Well... Patch was. The party ran a fake conservative and lost.
Paul didn't make it past the primaries. I do believe that makes me just a bit more right than Patch.

The primaries are over. Paul is back in the House doing nothing, as usual. He's just do more of it now.

Follow him if you want but this is not the place.