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jonessa2

08-09-2003, 10:33 PM

I feel smoker's rights are being trampled on. *The only place they can smoke is basically in their vehicles or on their property. *(I don't smoke, but I sure love my Instant Taster's Choice coffee http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif *. *But then again I don't like 2nd-hand smoke, or cleaning ash trays. *Did you ever lick someone's fingers that smoked. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *
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The tobacco additives that keep you hooked
By Rosie Waterhouse
(Filed: 28/07/2003)

Additives in cigarettes may make some brands far more addictive than others, according to research.
For the first time, scientists have measured the amount of super-addictive "freebase" nicotine cigarettes deliver to the smoker.
Like crack cocaine, freebase nicotine vaporizes and passes rapidly through the lungs into the bloodstream. Because it reaches the brain so quickly it is thought to be more addictive than normal nicotine...
Scientists compared 11 brands available in America. They found that some contained 10 to 20 times higher percentages of freebase nicotine than experts had previously believed.
Brands were compared with a laboratory "reference" cigarette containing one per cent freebase nicotine. They varied greatly, ranging from one per cent or two per cent to 36 per cent for a specialty US brand called American Spirit. Marlboro contained up to 9.6 per cent freebase nicotine. Other well known brands included Camel (2.7 per cent), Winston (five per cent to 6.2 per cent) and Gauloises Blondes (5.7 per cent to 7.5 per cent).
Professor James Pankow, who led the study, reported in the journal Chemical Research in Toxicology, said: "During smoking, only the freebase form can volatize from a particle into the air in the respiratory tract. Since scientists have shown that a drug becomes more addictive when it is delivered to the brain more rapidly, freebase nicotine levels in cigarette smoke thus are at the heart of the controversy regarding the tobacco industry's use of additives like ammonia and urea, as well as blending choices in cigarette design."...

Professor Jack Henningfield, from the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland, said: "It appears likely that ingredients used in modern cigarette manufacture, such as ammonia and urea, account for this addiction-enhancing effect." *...

azwhitewolf

08-10-2003, 10:40 PM

I'm desperately trying to quit myself, but I think others have the right to smoke if they:

a) Can afford to purchase it themselves
b) Can afford the medical bills for the results without taxpayer money
c) Agree that it's THEIR decision, and not the fault of the tobacco industry

Personally, I think the anti-smoking campaigns are a stupid waste of money. I don't think that kids are listening, believing or caring about the Youth-Anti-Smoke-Campaigns. When I was bartending in California, and the no-smoking-in-bars stuff came down, I lost all my regular business to the guy down the street. He had to pay a $500. fine when the "smoking police" (another stupid waste of money) came through, but he easily made that back in one night thanks to all the extra business he'd get. In the meantime, I was working in a smoke-free bar - which was also customer-free.

If you own a restaurant or bar and want to make it non-smoking, go for it. But it's not right that government legislate that every restaurant or bar be smoke-free. The consumers, ultimately and independently, will decide which business plan works best for their dining or drinking experience.

Wow. Now I gotta go inahle some ammonia or urea. What exactly is urea? Yuck. Sounds like another word that starts with ur....

lpara

08-10-2003, 11:58 PM

That's exactly what it is, AZ *Probably from horseys or http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jacka.gif s YUCK!

azwhitewolf

08-11-2003, 07:03 PM

Quote[/b] ]Probably from horseys
You're kidding! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rofl.gif *

Maybe that's why they call it "smoking a butt". *Well, close enough anyway. *

Is that really an ingredient? *Horse p!ss? *I always imagined an "almond" flavor in the smoke... but now I have to re-think this whole "taste" thing. *

Ewwwwwww!

No, keep talking. I'll quit for sure. I'm not going to inhale pee.

SheilaRiley

08-15-2003, 01:55 PM

I enjoy smoking, I have smoked for many, many years and in all honesty do not see myself stopping anytime soon, if ever. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

I do think that I have always been a 'polite' smoker, have tried to be considerate about where and when I smoked. *I wish that I could say that this polite consideration has been shown to me - it has not. *I have had strangers walk up to me and make the rudest comments, even cuss me out.

I find myself becoming less polite about my smoking with each negative encounter. *It must be my Scottish roots showing, my grandmothers stubborn Muldoon clan and all.

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pRIMrose

08-17-2003, 07:56 AM

As an ex smoker, I have been on both sides of the argument. It really doesn't bother me to be around smokers ~ as long as I don't have to be in closed in spaces/rooms for any length of time. And I really don't like people smoking in my car. It permeates everything it touches. There is nothing more repulsive than the odor of old stale tobacco in upholstery or clothing. And when you have stopped smoking for any length of time, you can smell it all over someone who smokes. Now we know why. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jacka.gif

I think smokers have a right to smoke out in the open or in designated areas of public places. Even if it's in the same room. But, as an ex smoker, I adamantly say that smokers are responsible for whatever happens to them. Not the tobacco companies or anyone else. I've known for 50 years that smoking could or would either kill you or lead to other debilitating disease. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/doh.gif When the package you are carrying has a skull and crossbones or some other dire health warning then you are responsible if you decide to ignore the warning.

Plus, I can find a lot more interesting places to spend the eighty or hundred dollars a month that it costs to smoke. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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azwhitewolf

08-18-2003, 06:17 AM

Quote[/b] ]I enjoy smoking, I have smoked for many, many years and in all honesty do not see myself stopping anytime soon, if ever.
Welcome to the forum, Sheila. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif for your honesty!!!
Quote[/b] ]I find myself becoming less polite about my smoking with each negative encounter.
I don't blame you. I was at another restaurant this week where smoking was allowed. Boy, you could tell the non-smokers were getting all torked off, but you know, there are HUNDREDS of other non-smoking restaurants in the town. It wasn't like I was smoking in the only "good restaurant" in a one-mile town... and even if I was!

I think it's the "adamant and never ending" demanding attitude that "I stop" that makes me want to blow smoke rings around their noses and flick my ashes in their omelettes. It's that prissy liberal "I'm better than you" crap.
Quote[/b] ]It must be my Scottish roots showing, my grandmothers stubborn Muldoon clan and all.
Nah, Sheila. You can smoke with me anytime. That's just spitting in the eye of those without common sense who have the incessant need to whine to government to make you stop doing something you enjoy.

If they hated drinking, they'd ban that. Then bars would be glorified water dispensers. The problem is that too many Kennedys are alcoholics - and the libs look out for their own! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rofl.gif

I can understand a liberal having a life worth whining about, but they don't have to go and ruin EVERONE's good time! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

pRIMrose

08-18-2003, 02:40 PM

Cough, hack, choke.............. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif Is that you two up there foggin' up the room? http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rotflo.gif

lpara

08-18-2003, 11:02 PM

Link for AZ Cigarette Ingredients~~all of 'em (http://quitsmoking.about.co m/library/weekly/aa042301a.htm)

"Yikes! In the 4000 chemicals in cigarette tobacco, there are 43 known carcinogens. One is too many for me, much less 43 of them! Look what we've been smoking all these years!"

urea *noun: * the chief solid component of mammalian urine; (I told ya it was horsey's pee-pee http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif ) *synthesized from ammonia and carbon dioxide and used as fertilizer and in animal feed and in plastics ~~(looks like they forgot to add cigs to this list http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif )