View Full Version : Elton John: Sexism to blame for Clinton's lag in polls
Terri
04-10-2008, 07:44 AM
Newsday
A bitter Sir Elton John thinks America's sexism may be sinking his friend Hillary Rodham Clinton.
John, a knighted British subject, said that gender discrimination is behind Clinton's problems in the polls as he addressed 5,000 Clinton supporters at Radio City Musical Hall last night in an event that raised $2.5 million for the cash-strapped campaign.
"I never cease to be amazed by the misogynistic attitudes of some people in this country," said John, wearing a spangled black evening coat over a vermilion silk shirt. "I say to hell with them. ... I love you, Hillary, I'll always be there for you."
John's comments echo the former first lady's remarks to National Public Radio Tuesday, when she said there was "a double standard" in media coverage of the race.
More (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-ushill0410,0,7265642 ,print.story)
Charie
04-10-2008, 08:45 AM
So Chubs thinks we're misogynistic in this country? Darn! Here I thought we were racist! Or is it we're just more misogynistic than racist?
Oh Bubba! It's no fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it? :nopityA:
Jamble
04-10-2008, 09:30 AM
I don't usually resort to profane language but I say the hell with Elton John and all the rest of the Show Biz egomaniacs who feel free to denigrate our country.
They make gobs of $$ in the USA and then bite the hand that has been feeding them. This goes for our homegrown "celebrities" as well as those from alien nations. :)
qrayjack
04-10-2008, 09:57 AM
Boy, ol' Elton is plumb perturbed at us redneck racist, beer-guzzling sexist, bible thumping homophobic, gun-toting, flag waving, right-wing... uh... what's that there big word now Elton? Misogynistic ? How do you pronounce it, Elton? I mean, you know, we ain't too bright, see? Oh by the way Elton. Did anybody ever tell you you're a pompous, arrogant, condescending, left-wing snob?
mountainmansouth
04-10-2008, 10:16 AM
Maybe, just maybe she is behind in the polls because the american people can see through her lies. Because the american people see through her fence straddling. Because the american people know that she is not a happily married woman, but rather, a woman who is happy with the business deal she made with the man she married.
The reason the US is still great is because we don't rule ourselves by what "feels good." We still manage to do what is right even though it might not be politically correct.
Elton should stick with what he knows - music.
lpara
04-10-2008, 11:04 AM
Me thinks the only "sexism" conundrum in the Clinton campaign is no one really knows for sure what "sex" Hillary is. :peepwallA:
rangerrebew
04-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Was he referring to his own sexual orientation or that of the vast majority? Besides, she is an awfully poor example of the gentler and nurturing gender which, in her mind I'll bet, she was unfortunately born into.:aarg:
Texanna
04-10-2008, 11:29 AM
Sexism, racism, ageism--it's never the thought that Americans are opposed to someone because of their policies or their character, is it?
Of course, we are too stupid to think for ourselves, so we should swallow the poison without question, right?
Elton John is a panderer.
STEELMAN
04-10-2008, 11:53 AM
A bitter Sir Elton John thinks America's sexism may be sinking his friend Hillary Rodham Clinton.
SIR? Elton John? I thought it was "Madame Elton John" due to his sexual preference...but how stupid of me...I forgot he was "nighted"...er...I mean knighted by the British as some sort of meaningful, important, VIP in jolly ole England.
As "Church Lady" used to say: "My, isn't THAT spiritual!" Hmmmmmm?
"I say to hell with them. ... I love you, Hillary, I'll always be there for you."
Don't say that in front of your "partner" John; he may think you're bi-sexual and drop you like a hot potato!
John's comments echo the former first lady's remarks to National Public Radio Tuesday, when she said there was "a double standard" in media coverage of the race.
No kidding? Double standards in the media?
How shocking! Will wonders never cease?
The reason the US is still great is because we don't rule ourselves by what "feels good."
Another principal the Democratic party needs to learn.
Elton should stick with what he knows - music.
He may know his music but his pick for a president is lousy!
Boy, ol' Elton is plumb perturbed at us redneck racist, beer-guzzling sexist, bible thumping homophobic, gun-toting, flag waving, right-wing... uh... what's that there big word now Elton? Misogynistic ?
WOW! Grayjack! You didn't miss many descriptives on that one! LOL still!
If Elton ole boy is bitter now; what will his reaction be when she's shot down like a flaming zero for president? Another Elton musical eulogy like the one for Princess D.?
That would be interesting eh wot?
shotgun rider
04-10-2008, 12:52 PM
"sir" Elton - how would you know a misogynist if one came up and kissed you (except you might like it!) I do believe "jolly ol" England did have one of the finest leaders in the person of Margaret Thatcher a few years ago. I'll bet dollars to donuts you couldn't stand her, with all her bellicose & conservative rhetoric. So why don't you get back on your hobby horse and go back to your sick bi-sexual life style. We don't want you. We don't want a loser like Hillary. Now if we find another Lady Thatcher... we'll vote for her faster than a duck's on a june bug! We're not misogynists, we're not racists, we just want good leaders. It's the character not the color of skin or gender, you perverted idiot!
__________
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight!
clovers
04-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Ho Hum! Another "celebrity" intoxicated by his own ego, attempts to educate the ignorant American masses - who have managed very nicely, thank you, before he appeared on the scene and will continue to do so when he is long forgotten.
Hasn't it occurred to any of these "know it alls" that nobody has ever elected them?:doh:
Thundercat505
04-10-2008, 01:09 PM
what do you expect from a big fish in a little pond???? this moron wouldn't know anything about what goes on here although he has toured a few times and seen very little other than scenery.
bad part about these little ponds is that what happens there won't work for everyone else and his way of life is going to come to an abrupt end with the adapting of sharia law due to idiotic policies of his own government.
but then again, his lifestyle isn't widely accepted anyway so he only has the choice of britain or denmark with the only addition of mass. here that allows for what he has done over there. he can't tell me that his lifestyle is not looked down on by the majority of the people over there either.
he needs to keep his big nose out of OUR politics to begin with. she is sinking her own self with the un-truths she and slik have been coming up with while still thinking that the public is gullible and will accept anything they say as gospel.
ONTIME
04-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Elton,
Try Saudi Arabia, I think you will find the mysoginy, (is it), a bit worse there than here in my country. Remember you come from the land of the limey's and their caving to the Islamist.
Terri
04-10-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't understand why this concert is a legal contribution to Hillary. Does anyone know if this was removed from the bill?
From McCain-Feingold... (http://www.nationalcenter.o rg/McCainFeingold.html)
SEC. 506. STRENGTHENING FOREIGN MONEY BAN.
Section 319 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2
U.S.C. 441e) is amended--
(1) by striking the heading and inserting the following:
`CONTRIBUTIONS AND DONATIONS BY FOREIGN NATIONALS'; and
(2) by striking subsection (a) and inserting the following:
`(a) PROHIBITION- It shall be unlawful for--
`(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make--
`(A) a donation of money or other thing of value, or to
promise expressly or impliedly to make a donation, in
connection with a Federal, State, or local election to a
political committee or a candidate for Federal office; or
`(ii) a contribution or donation to a committee of a
political party; or
`(B) for a person to solicit, accept, or receive such
contribution or donation from a foreign national.'.
Thundercat505
04-10-2008, 02:36 PM
(I don't understand why this concert is a legal contribution to Hillary. Does anyone know if this was removed from the bill?)
hmmm, I agree with you terri, but could it possibly be the typical double standards that the dumbs can get away with something that they would scream about the repubs ever trying????
what I see states that it is illegal and someone needs to look into it and charges filed if this concert and subsequent monies change hands. so far it is a plan and nothing can be done about it unless someone wants to try to stop it???
Whitetop
04-10-2008, 05:08 PM
It is highly important Sir John go back to his native land and vote for those who knighted him. His knighthood doesn't mean squat here so he can take his title and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. It's bad enough to have to listen to the socialist from holly weird who utilize our capitalist system to make millions and then think anything they say has meaning to the masses. We don't need imported buttheads like Sir John telling us how to vote.
People like Sir John who come from foreign lands, to reap millions off the American people by pretending to be entertainers, need to be taxed at the 90 percent rate for any dollars they make in this country. The rate should increase to 125 percent if they think they have the right to expound their views on our political system.
George123
04-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Bestowing knighthood to Elton John was disrespectful to all of the other knights.
Technically, though, I don't think there was a violation of the campaign contribution laws.
It was ticket goers who paid for the contribution.
schillerbjr
04-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Elton John: "Join the rest of the Democrat Party in the 'dumpster'!"
Ohiowoman
04-10-2008, 09:57 PM
So that's it! Hillary Clinton's problems aren't the result of her socialist policies, her long history of lying, her arrogance, condescension, phoniness or sense of entitlement. No, "misogynistic attitudes" are at the heart of it. Of course! Elton John is absolutely clueless.
RiverKing
04-10-2008, 10:44 PM
Unless Elton John was paid, by the Clinton campaign, his usual "take" for such a concert, I think there was clearly an unlawful act here. His appearance was otherwise obviously the donation of a thing of value by a foreign national. But who is even theoretically to be punished? The candidate? The event organizer? Does anyone know what the law says? I'd try to look it up but it would be a waste of time; the law will never be enforced anyway.
And, by the way, was it not sexist of Hillary to claim months ago that 40% of Republican women would vote for her because she's a woman?
Charie
04-10-2008, 11:11 PM
Unless Elton John was paid, by the Clinton campaign, his usual "take" for such a concert, I think there was clearly an unlawful act here. His appearance was otherwise obviously the donation of a thing of value by a foreign national.
Bingo! River King.
Terri, is there some reason to think this section may have been taken out or was that a rhetorical question?
It looks to me as though it's just one more part of the McCain/Feingold to be gotten around because the whole thing is simply a feel-good bill whomped up as a showcase for Feingold and McCain. Feingold is all flash and no fire anyhow. McCain fits in that category too, except his flash is more in the middle instead of Way Far Left.
qrayjack
04-11-2008, 07:08 AM
Laws do not apply to the Clintons. The Clintons make the law. Here's Hillary's typically liberal, expensive, feel-good, do-nothing plan to solve crime in America:
Clinton plan aims to halve cities' murder rate By Claudia Parsons
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Democratic White House hopeful Hillary Clinton will unveil a plan on Friday to boost federal spending to help cities and states fight crime by $4 billion a year, aiming to halve murder rates in the most dangerous U.S. cities.
The New York senator will announce the plan in Philadelphia, a city with the highest homicide rate among the 10 biggest U.S. cities and a key battleground in her flagging race against Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Clinton is ahead in Pennsylvania polls before the state's April 22 primary but needs to maintain a strong lead to stay in the race to be the Democratic nominee in the November vote.
MORE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080411/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton _crime_dc_1)
Clinton said the cost of her crime agenda was around $4 billion in new investments, which would be funded from savings from reducing corporate subsidies.
$4 bil is probably a fraction of the actual cost, and what does 'reduced corporate subsidies' mean?
jack virtus
04-11-2008, 08:05 AM
Sir Elton, feel free at any time to take yourself and your perverted american hating lifestyle back to merry old england.
Terri
04-11-2008, 08:50 AM
Terri, is there some reason to think this section may have been taken out or was that a rhetorical question?
It could have been taken out. I'm not sure and was hoping someone else knew more about it.
Or maybe it's just being ignored. Seems nothing is ever enforced anymore.
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