View Full Version : Romney memo says media ‘ready to anoint’ McCain
qrayjack
01-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Romney memo says media ‘ready to anoint’ McCain - By Sam Youngman, The Hill
A memo from a senior strategist for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney says that the media are ready to give the Republican nomination to Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), but if Romney can attract more conservatives, he will win the nomination.
“We still have an uphill battle in front of us,” Romney strategist Alex Gage wrote in the memo. “The mainstream media is (sic) ready to anoint John McCain and he will have advantages in many states running for president for the past eight years – but Gov. Romney has a clear path to victory on February 5th and beyond.”
MORE (http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/romney-memo-says-media-ready-to-anoint-mccain-2008-01-31.html)
*Oh baby if this isn't a breath of fresh air! Yes I know it's from the Romney campaign, but I'll take it, dear hearts, I'll take it.
qrayjack
01-31-2008, 07:44 PM
*Well that euphoria didn't last long:
Super Tuesday Polls (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/super_Tuesday_polls/2008/01/31/69026.html)
MamaCat
01-31-2008, 10:39 PM
And we all know how much we can trust the polls...
BUCKEYEFAN
02-01-2008, 09:16 AM
AMEN on the polls.....I am real savvy on political matters....For as long as I have lived I should be more versed on the subject, but alas, until now, I have not gotten to involved... I wish I had, because I feel so out of the loop, and don't know what to do, to help the party.....All I know is the Rep. party has hit bottom, the Dems are the bottom, and I am scared to death for my grandchildren and great grands....What to do.....
FlaJim
02-01-2008, 01:39 PM
The major disadvantage Romney has to overcome is that regardless of how much he spends to get his message out, the MSM will keep giving lots of time to their darling, McCain, and to the Huckster, to a lesser extent. Together with a quartet of influential RINO governors, there may still be a number of conservatives who can be fooled into believing that the two are conservatives of a different stripe.
Terrific. We've just had 7 years of a 'compassionate conservative', now we're supposed to support a 'maverick conservative' - their definition.
jester95008
02-01-2008, 03:02 PM
I know what you are saying about the media overdueing this with old mccain. Way too much publicity for the guy. If he didn't get any , he'd have run out of funds by now.
I tell ya , if romney loses , you are going to have a LOT of angry Conservatives , I'd be worried if I was McCain. Point is , the guy is weak on economic issues , amnesty , and fights with his own party. Now if he betrays his own party... why wouldn't he betray america too?
RINOs Gotta Go
02-01-2008, 03:20 PM
Maybe I have not been gluing my face to the TV, but it has been two days now since the Dems and the Republicans frontrunners rolled into town and I have not seen one single TV ad from either Romney or Huckabee in CA. Maybe both of them either don't have the money to run ads in CA or the liberal media have refused to run their ads in CA. The only ads I have seen in CA are ads from the two Dems.
What is going on here? Is there a conspiracy theory to this, one that points to how liberal media are deliberately shunning the Republicans?
As for McCain, he doesn't need to run any ads in CA. The liberal media are giving him lots of face time with the camera by covering the endorsements he has been getting from people that share his ideologies and painting him in a positive light.
Go Romney!!!
American_Made
02-01-2008, 03:41 PM
I wonder if McCain gets the nomination if Mitt would run as an independent. I know I will not vote for McCain. It will be the first time in 20 years I have not voted for a Republican but if I was to vote for McCain that would still hold true. (God I hope McCain looses)
MamaCat
02-01-2008, 03:51 PM
I wonder if McCain gets the nomination if Mitt would run as an independent.
Good idea, but I really don't think he would. Maybe he'll come back in four years when the country is tired of liberals in the Whitehouse.
Tiberius
02-01-2008, 05:01 PM
Why doesn't the Republican party take his R away from him and also if he is that disliked why if he wins the delegates should the party give it to McCain when he doesn't represent the party?
jsmith3085
02-01-2008, 06:12 PM
The Arizona Republic (newspaper) reported this week that a straw poll was held among the elected Republican Party officials in the Maricopa County which is the largest and most populated county in Arizona. McCain only received 11% of the vote. They even know that Mitt Romney is the best candidate on the Republican side and most able to beat Hillary. Strange that the MSM (main Street media) won't ever talk about how disliked John McCain is amongst his party. I wonder why..............
schillerbjr
02-01-2008, 06:44 PM
The "media" may be ready to anoint McCain, but the "TRUE" conservative base of the GOP
is NOT!!
Whitetop
02-01-2008, 07:44 PM
The media anoints McCain because they believe Hillary can beat him. End of story.
qrayjack
02-01-2008, 07:48 PM
The media anoints McCain because they believe Hillary can beat him True, but there's more to it than that, WT. Look at post #16 in Political Buzz.
raindrops
02-01-2008, 09:51 PM
The media annoints McCain because they know if he wins....it will be NO different than if Hillary or Obama wins......SAME DIFFERENCE!
End of the good ole USA as we know it.
GO Romney!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 01:03 AM
Statesman:
What is going on here? Is there a conspiracy theory to this, one that points to how liberal media are deliberately shunning the Republicans?
As for McCain, he doesn't need to run any ads in CA. The liberal media are giving him lots of face time with the camera by covering the endorsements he has been getting from people that share his ideologies and painting him in a positive light.
Here is one theory from a Russian, if you wish. I might be a decent expert in the left evil minds, since I had witnessed them in their natural habitat - where they were totally unrestricted: in the USSR.
There are two favorable (for the left) scenarios:
1. Hillaribama wins and they have 2 branches of power, with good chances to insert a couple of Bolsheviks into the Supreme Court. The flip side is they kill the economy and fail everywhere else, which wouldn’t be easy to sell as the damn Bush fault (even though the press will try hard). Consequently, even morons will restore the all time notion: Dems are no good for any purpose other than preventing Reps from complacence. So, following 8-12 years of Republican domination is inevitable.
2. We get “compassionate, moderate, etc. Republican President”, kind of McC or Huck. There is no risk of anything near Reaganesque revolution; on the contrary – those “conservatives” would be “reaching other side of the isle”24/7. No flip side for Dems: all disasters will be attributed to “this administration”. Both goals: damaging capitalism and protecting the guilty party’s reputation, are achieved.
IMHO, the 2-d option seems more attractive to the left masterminds.
I cannot think of this avalanche of the leftist (“mainstream”) media’s endorsements of the weak Reps and them trashing Romney – as unplanned and uncoordinated. Here is why. First, the mystic Huck’s omnipresence on TV prior to Iowa caucuses made me suspicious. Then I made 5 “tours of duty” to NH – volunteering for Romney campaign. In short: the McC’s campaign was almost invisible up to the last day. Well, NE newspapers (Boston Glob, Union Leader, Boston Herald, etc) endorsed Mc and criticized Romney prior to the primaries – when he officially had no money. But in NH – Romney’s, Ron Paul’s and Huch’s teams were more visible, and their signs were everywhere stick into the snow. The last day – McC’s signs just replaced those of competitors. As if a horde of pro-McC’s commandos came at night…
Not to mention Bob Novak and Dick Morris, calling McC “frontrunner” when he was loosing to Romney on all accouts: winned states, delagates number and resources. Not to mention Media, even FOX, lying about us, volunteers, as being “paid” …
MamaCat
02-02-2008, 01:36 AM
very interesting, antiDemt. Makes sense -- I noticed and thought it strange that Dick Morris and other FNC pundits were discounting Romney so quickly after Iowa and talking like McCain was off and running. And they continued on that bent, as you said, even when by all reasonable accounts, Romney was winning.
Given what you've told us here, what do you think Romney's chances are on Tuesday? (Give us a little hope, will you?)
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 01:44 AM
I'd love to, MamaCat. Well, some people even believe Giants will win tomorrow. I believe, Mitt has more chances than Giants :D
Down defeatism, naiveté and listening to the “moderate Governors’” endorsements. Well, Americans are gullible – I love them for the lack of European cynicism, but …
When I arrived here in Dec. 2000 and went to the English courses for refugees, we were asked to write an essay “What was most surprising to me in America?”
I wrote about Clinton Amereica’s carelessness and added that it would cost this country a mega-terrorist act that I was expecting within a year. The leftist instructors (who else can you meat in Downtown Boston?) laughed loudly: "Who dares" …
MamaCat
02-02-2008, 01:56 AM
Well, that'll do for a start....:D
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 02:21 AM
I came here, because I sincerely believe that, with all reservations, there is the most rational and fair system all over the world. And I’m not going just to observe as they try to turn it in the socialist/ic swamp. Oppression and lawlessness will come immediately. If only more people had my passion and immunity to the "liberal" deception...
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 02:56 AM
Unfortunately, even in Romney’s camp (although he is a very good organizer and just a good man) – there are mostly the guys who are simply at work/internship. I had some suggestions: slogans, rebuffs, strategic moves (I believe I’m well qualified, with my life experience and fresh MBA diploma), but was not able to reach proper officials neither online or being 3 times in the HQ. A narrowly limited job, not mission … That is not a winning path.
qrayjack
02-02-2008, 08:32 AM
The media annoints McCain because they know if he wins....it will be NO different than if Hillary or Obama wins......SAME DIFFERENCE! Wrong, raindrops, it would be worse because it would mean the destruction of conservatism, which is the goal of the Dems, drivebys and RINOS who support McCainism. Oh sure, the damage done by a liberal Dem in the White House as opposed to a lib Republican would be greater, but that's what would happen if McCain is the nominee anyway because he can't beat the Dems. They'll pulverize him.
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 12:11 PM
would happen if McCain is the nominee anyway because he can't beat the Dems. They'll pulverize him.
not necessarily true. They might agree not to beat him deliberately. He can make a very convenient Trojan Horse: a nominal Republican to blame GOP and a soul mate to go along with their “new directions” - all in one scent-bottle. True: they might sustain some short-term damage – but huge strategic long term advantage – good chance to rule long: up to 4-5 terms. Enough time to leave people of this country with merely change in their pockets ..
qrayjack
02-02-2008, 12:41 PM
...might agree not to beat him deliberately That strategy might sound possible, but the Dems are not going to deliberately lose the White House. Especially the Clintons. And while we have a cumbersome system that has become over-politicized, we still have checks and balances. Any president or party that takes this country into the tank is going to suffer the consequences.
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 01:53 PM
But as we see, Dems aren't 100% Clintonians anymore. Let's remember about the current unique situation. Totally anti-republican outlets unanimously endorse a "Republican". Don't you see causality here?
I'm not saying the "Trojan Horse" plan is #1 (A), but at least #2 (B) - seems very real.
I do know the left mindset pretty well – I lived under their yoke for decades. They always need a cataclysmic pretext in order to abandon constitutional principles or at least suppress them “temporarily”. That is why their endless distortions, exaggerations and whining about everything and promises to “clean after Bush” are alarming - they are building foundation for "emergency measures". Like FDR.
When I listen to the leftist “agents of change” and “prophets of the future” and the reaction by the zombiefyed crowds, I recognize similarities with the dirty Bolshevik and Nazi’s past… If only American kids could learn objective history, not “political science” that is compiled by the Columbian style Marxists …
UPSdelivers
02-02-2008, 01:58 PM
It is a really ODD situation when if the Democratic nomination is Hillary a lot of Democrats won't vote for her because they can't stand her or they don't think we are ready for a woman as President.
If John McCain is the Republican candidate many Republicans won't vote for him because they can't stand him and believe he is way too liberal and not telling the truth on so many issues.
So we'll have a HUGE pool of voters who are unsatisfied with their candidate. This scenario would favor a 3rd party candidate to run. Where's a "Ross Perot" when you need him???
qrayjack
02-02-2008, 02:06 PM
Forget the 3rd party option. It's no more viable now than it ever was.
Don't you see causality here? Sure, until McCain is the GOP nominee, and then all those disgruntled Dems will loyally vote Hillary.
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 02:36 PM
Sure, until McCain is the GOP nominee, and then all those disgruntled Dems will loyally vote Hillary.
Most probably you are as right as conventional wisdom is. But that doesn't mean puppet masters do not consider other scenario. Newspapers are "advansed" and they love entertaining turns.
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 02:38 PM
Where's a "Ross Perot" when you need him???
Are you waiting for Bloomberg?:p
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 04:11 PM
That strategy might sound possible, but the Dems are not going to deliberately lose the White House.
Do you rmember this article:
Why John McCain is the Democrats’ best hope.
What’s in a Name? by Jonathan Chait
New Republic | Issue date 04.29.02 ?
… on high-profile issues, McCain’s legislative coalitions consist entirely, or almost entirely, of Democrats
Actulally, you can find it as the footnote to another good piece by Patrick Ruffini here:
http://www.patrickruffini.c om/2007/12/30/flashback-the-real-john-mccain
billybigrigger
02-02-2008, 04:16 PM
I think Ron Paul will run as a third party canidate if he has any money left over. The media would give him plenty of air time. Hope I'm wrong.
de Seis
02-02-2008, 05:02 PM
No third party - if it was someone like RuPaul, he'd just drain votes away from the Democrat with the D besides his/her name, especially if it was Obama's - anti-war.
With McCain in, half the GOP base will stay home, a quarter would actually cross. But Hillary wouldn't lose one single vote from her base.
antiDemt
02-02-2008, 05:08 PM
The media would give him plenty of air time.
only if it helps Dems, as was the case with Huck
billybigrigger
02-02-2008, 06:09 PM
No third party - if it was someone like RuPaul, he'd just drain votes away from the Democrat with the D besides his/her name
You'd be surprised. These people really believe we should stay out of these type of conflicts unless we are directly threatened. But on many other issues they are conservative or libertarian. This also is only one of their issues, this is the gold standard, no entitlements, no taxes at all crowd. If Ron Paul doesn't run whom do you really think they would vote for. I'd say the republican, or I'd say they voted for the Republican in the last election.
Now I agree if anyone thinks they could win running on Ron Paul's platform, even minus the war their nuttier than a fruitcake.
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