Stop the liberal assault on the Boy Scouts

[Bill Hodges]

This CONSERVATIVE ALERT prepared for William (Bill) Hodges:

ISSUE: For quite a while now, we've alerted our members
to the constant barrage of attacks on one of the most
cherished institutions in America: the Boy Scouts.

Liberals would like nothing more than to destroy this
bastion of young American manhood. They tried to do just
that by demanding that the Supreme Court force them to
accept homosexuals as Scouts and Scoutmasters. They failed
at the national level -- but now they've scored another
major victory locally, unless conservatives stand up and
turn back the tide.

As noted by TownHall.com guest columnist Hans Zeiger (an
18-year-old Eagle Scout himself), "Philadelphia's Cradle
of Liberty Boy Scout Council self-destructed last week.
Its executive board voted unanimously to include 'sexual
orientation' in its nondiscrimination code. The outrageous
move came after years of intense pressure from radical
homosexual and atheist rights groups in the area and
nationwide."
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The Philadelphia Council is the third largest local council
in the country, serving 87,000 boys and men. It joins a
growing list of councils that have eagerly thumbed their
noses at the Boy Scouts of America and its associated moral
codes. Last year, San Francisco and Boston became the first
branches to reject the concept of "moral straightness."
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As Zeiger notes, "When it comes to a Scout troop, sexual
orientation is an issue that goes beyond differences in
skin color or economic status. It affects such matters as
tenting arrangements and the development of pre-teenage
masculinity in a close-knit group of boys and men. But the
BSA's position against homosexuality is not just an issue
of moral principle in an effort to affirm the Scout Oath
and Law, it is a serious safety effort to prevent cases of
sexual abuse and harassment."
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To the vast majority of Americans who understand the
importance of Scouting in every community across the nation,
preserving the traditional moral code of Scouting is a
no-brainer. It is time for families in Philadelphia to show
that they oppose the leadership of their local council by
leaving the organization.
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The pressures from the radical Left must be dealt with. As
the Left has opened fire on the Scouts, the reaction of
Americans has been interesting. Some say that the Scouts don't
need to be defended because they are strong enough. Many would
argue that ignoring the opposition is the best thing for the
Scouts. Perhaps that would be true in a small-scale conflict,
but those who lead the drive against the Scouts have proven
their capacity for a dangerous perversion of morality when,
in a hundred other scenarios, they've struck deepest when
decent Americans chose not to fight back. They didn't fight
back because they weren't looking in the first place.

Well, THIS time we're looking. Now let's do something about it.

ACTION ITEM: The Boy Scouts are not an intolerant, homophobic,
racist bunch. In fact, the Boy Scouts have always taught
tolerance and have been at the forefront of celebrating
diversity. Since 1911, the BSA has reached out to disabled
youth, racial and ethnic minorities, Native Americans, and
inner city children. And Scouting has also taught the
difference between right and wrong, between honor and indecency,
between justice and perversity.

No wonder the radical leftists hate the Scouts so much.
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NOW is the time to fight back and defend the Boy Scouts from
further damage. The Boy Scouts have the right to establish
standards for membership, and those standards have been highly
respected for over 90 years. Citizens across America have an
obligation to see to it that the Boy Scout Oath and Law are
upheld for another 90 years. Go to our site below NOW to send
a message directly to Philadelphia Cradle of Liberty Boy Scout
Executive William Dwyer, and let him know that caving in to
liberal extremism is NOT acceptable to the vast majority of
Americans across this great nation:

http://www.conservativealer ts.com/061203.htm
AOL GO HERE

NOTE: If you'd like to toss a couple of quarters in the slot
to let your voice be heard, the two phone numbers for the
Philadelphia Council are 215-988-9811 and 610-688-6900. Be sure
to forward this email to everyone you know who wants to help
preserve the integrity of this bastion of real American values.
Thank you!

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[aloha]

Unfortunately, The Boy Scouts Of America is a victim of their own success. The current president and many of the board members are of conservative religious backgrounds. In adopting the strict interpretation of “morally straight”, they have taken away local control of the Boy Scouts. It is equivalent of saying, “What is good to wear in Seattle is good to wear in Miami.
If local control were established local communities could determine what policy, they will adopt. I find it very interesting that most republican principles go against federalism unless it represents a conservative viewpoint. Hmm…. Just something to think about.
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[Bill Hodges]

Quote[/b] ]I find it very interesting that most republican principles go against federalism unless it represents a conservative viewpoint.

Why is that so interesting? Most Republicans nowadays are former Democrats.


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[aloha]

Broad generalizations: “Most Republicans were Democrats” It is true in Hawaii only because most of the conservatives are Democrats. The Hawaii Republican Party is a moderate, progressive party, which is now winning elections.
As for following principals when it suits them and ignoring them when it does not agree with their personal feelings, both political parties are guilty.

[Bill Hodges]

Quote[/b] ]Broad generalizations: “Most Republicans were Democrats” It is true in Hawaii only because most of the conservatives are Democrats. The Hawaii Republican Party is a moderate, progressive party, which is now winning elections.

I'm sure your statement is accurate, whether or not it describes all those within the party in Hawaii. I'm sure Hawaii being that far away does have an element of being disenfranchised. When, after three and a half decades of Moderates watering down the Republican principles, it becomes the only game in town and parties themselves lose their traditional platform.


Quote[/b] ]As for following principals when it suits them and ignoring them when it does not agree with their personal feelings, both political parties are guilty.

Yes, as I previously stated, the majority of the current Republican Party consist of former Democrats. They have brought their hypocrisy with them and diluted the traditional Republican principles. That's why I am, and always will be, a Conservative before labelling myself as a member of a political party or affiliation.

William (Bill) Douglas Hodges
T/O Ranch
Erick, Oklahoma



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[jonessa2]

<span style='color:black'>http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif wrong, wrong, wrong.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *that's the brilliance of Republicans.
*there are many different kinds of us...everything a democrat complains about or makes claims and policy about, Republicans feel and need. *and guess what! *My President is ON it.
* * * * * * * * * * that's why the dems are sooo confused and have no platform any more. *all 'they' can do is whine about where's the wmd?. *this to throw the populous (where's a dictionary when you need it) off of the work the GOP is doing sponsoring/co-sponsoring legislation for poe'folk like me! *and a medicare package I can use in two years. *well, not me exactly, because I'm a Vet and get my care at the VA.
* * * *so, if your Republicans act like liberals in hawaii, no, they're just being themselves.</span>

[aloha]

Quote[/b] (Bill Hodges @ June 15, 2003 -- 10:10 pm)]I'm sure your statement is accurate, whether or not it describes all those within the party in Hawaii. I'm sure Hawaii being that far away does have an element of being disenfranchised. When, after three and a half decades of Moderates watering down the Republican principles, it becomes the only game in town and parties themselves lose their traditional platform.
I thank you for your candor. In Hawaii we are not disenfranchised with the rest of the country we are ahead of the curve. The disenfranchised moderate Democrats made the Hawaii Republican Party a winning party. Each party must play to their base but to win elections, they must get the independents, moderates and non-voters to voter their way.
Conservatism is healthy but with balance. What tempers the extremes of both sides is the majority in the middle. Having to deal with both extremes of opinions, I find they are alike in their reactions. As a conservative what has happened to fiscal responsibility? Deficit spending? Where is the call for less spending to pay for the new tax cuts? It was not the conservative end of the senate that insisted on spending cuts to pay for the tax cut. The moderate Republicans took on that responsibility. To your opinion and mine.

[Bill Hodges]

Quote[/b] ]In Hawaii we are not disenfranchised with the rest of the country we are ahead of the curve. The disenfranchised moderate Democrats made the Hawaii Republican Party a winning party. Each party must play to their base but to win elections, they must get the independents, moderates and non-voters to voter their way.

So, in your opinion, the continued success of the Republican Party relies solely on the fact that Republicans must become a majority of neo-Conservatives?
If this is your assumption, I must respectfully and completely disagree. The wave of neo-Conservatives is exactly the reason why the Republicans have lost a great deal of their defining principles and why the Republican Party now, for the most part, seems to have adopted the Democrat ideologies of forty years ago. Just as the Liberals/Socialists have hijacked and deteriorated the Democrat Party over sixty years ago, they are beginning to plague their cancer onto the Republican Party of today (incrementally speaking). The Democrats have become disenfranchised with their party of the past, and have found themselves more defined by the Republican Party, bringing their dillution of ideology along with them. As the cycle of political evolution continues, the &quot;old school&quot; Republicans, such as myself, more closely identify ourselves with the Constitutionalist/Federalist ideologies. In the near future, this may give more credibility and political weight to creating a viable third party as the neo-Conservatives erode what is left of the Republican Party and the Democrat Party continues to diminish itself out of existence.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *William (Bill) Douglas Hodges
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * T/O Ranch
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Erick, Oklahoma



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[Leelanau]

I am a Cubmaster, which means I volunteer to lead the boys under age 11 in the Boy Scout program. *In this capacity, I'll give you a little of my experience in both the BSA and Girl Scouts of America - of which I will no longer be affiliated.

I have been a leader with BSA for 3 1/2 years. *In all that time, the BSA has stuck to their guns and upheld the their program. *You would be hard pressed to find a leader in this organization that would say outright that the BSA is &quot;behind the times&quot; and needs to change. *In fact, just the opposite would happen. *You will find the vast majority will proudly stand tall and support the BSA 100%!! *The reason we joined the ranks and allowed our sons to particpate was that the BSA will NOT bow to the liberal agenda and allow their principles to be compromised. *I have complete faith that BSA National will not allow this travesty to continue in Philadelphia and replace all the employees with those that will follow the program as is. *The BSA will NOT become another follower of the liberal proganda machine - they WILL ALWAYS lead and create leaders!!

The Girl Scouts of America on the other hand, have local control of their council - which creates severe problems! *Our local, Mitten Bay, doesn't even follow the requirements of leader to scout ratios for leadership, punish leaders with expulsion for missing meetings - with no reasonable explanations, hold on to funds belonging to the individual troops for longer than the scouting year, and DISCRIMINATE in the individual troops - with the local council upholding the rights of the troops to do so!! *

I will NEVER volunteer in their organization again, especially after the leader update I recieved from the National organization this week. *They have now replaced the two upper levels of girl scouting (Cadette and Senior) with a new program called &quot;Studio 2B&quot;. *I don't know about the rest of you, but what the heck does that name do to signify God, Country and Family?? *The Girl Scouts were established to form a comparable program for girls that the BSA had established for boys. *Look at it now - it doesn't even resemble scouting at all!! *It looks more like a YMCA after school program, complete with diversity training, homosexual leaders, and NO leadership training. *It is a &quot;feel good&quot; program now instead of the character building program that was established decades ago. *Do you think this benefits our girls - NOT!

When kids programs decide to bow to liberal demands, the programs no longer benefit the kids. *It just becomes another way to &quot;dumb down&quot; our children. *The BSA will not allow this to happen to the program in Phildelphia. *Leadership nation wide will support the National BSA in their actions against the leadership of the Philadelphia council and help them re-establish the council to reflect the goals of BSA - the goals that were good 94 years ago are still good today!

[Floridaguy]

With difference in the positions of leadership details only vis a vis the Boy Scouts &amp; Cub Scouts), but not the thought process that she expounded on, I agree with Leelanau. Given my extensive experience with the BSA, I can only state that unless someone has personal experience with the Scouts (which aloha has not stated) then they must defer to those with actual experience within the organization. Kudos to Bill, too, I agree with what he has said. Lastly, the only reason that there &quot;might&quot; be conservative Democrats in Hawaii, is because almost everyone active in politics in Hawaii are Democrats! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Essentially, I sort of lump Hawaiin politics as ideologically similar to the politics of Inouye, and more recently Akaka. Hardly conservatives by a long shot. Also, the BSA is dying in Hawaii, hardly a coincidence.

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[aloha]

I am originally from Dupage County Ill. Hardly a bastion of liberal/socialist. I come from a &quot;Country Club Republican&quot; background. We thought about business not about people private affairs. I also was in scouting from Cubs thru Webelos to Eagle Scout. Most of the troops were local church sponsored. I never recalled a problem while I was growing up.
As for BSA in Hawaii, the Roman Catholic Church or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) sponsors most of the troops. They have big families and are doing just fine with the scouts.
Senators Inouye &amp; Akaka are very conservative but hide behind a liberal image. They have apparently fooled the Florida guy.

[Terri]

aloha, I think I've missed welcoming you to the board. We're glad to have you.