U.S. court rules against Bush in global warming case

[qrayjack]

U.S. court rules against Bush in global warming case - By James Vicini

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a defeat for the Bush administration, the Supreme Court ruled on Monday that a U.S. government agency has the power to regulate greenhouse gas emissions that spur global warming.

By a 5-4 vote, the nation's highest court said the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency "has offered no reasoned explanation" for its refusal to regulate carbon dioxide and other emissions from new cars and trucks that contribute to climate change.

The ruling in one of the most important environmental cases to reach the Supreme Court marked the first high court decision in a case involving global warming.
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*Think all this environmental hokum isn't political? The SCOTUS vote of 5-4 was straight down liberal/conservative lines with Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas dissenting.

[studebaker51]

Once again, the Loony Liberal Left are going to cram their "religion" down our throats.....and, of course, taxes will need to be raised in order to pay for their pet cause.:eek:

[SewingSusie]

Is this the same court case that Rush was talking about this afternoon, in which a judge drew from Ben Gore's film in his decision?

[Duncan]

Lefty Brother sent me an article on this. It referred to the decision as a "rebuke." Interesting that every time someone or some entity disagrees with the Bush Administration, it's portrayed as a slap in the face, a rebuke.

Also interesting that when someone publicly (or otherwise for that matter) questions the whack science of global warming, that person is vilified as a dangerous lunatic.

Coincidentally, I just happen to be watching Planet Earth: The Future on the Science Channel. You want to know what I found out? I found that humans are a scourge on the planet, in general, and -- in particular -- we are directly responsible for global warming. If we are responsible for this kind of massive change, then the converse must also be true. In 10 years humankind can sink the planet back in the deep freeze where it belongs????????

I had NO idea that humans could conduct massive Terraforming in the early 21st century. Oh, that's right, WE CAN'T! And therefore, I don't believe what humans do is even responsible for 2 percent of the warm-up. This is cyclical you granola-headed lunatics!!!

End of rant...

[tgclark]

Why did the Supreme Court get involved anyway. There is entirely too much government in our lives. This global warming is nothing but BS but the liberals will believe anything that Al Gore says as if it is gospel. Well, we definitely will have global warming if Iran is allowed to continue as they are doing.

[McGrats]

Actually, the SCOTUS didn't really rule against Bush. According to an analysis by the authoritative Heartland Institute, "All the court did was order USEPA to issue a more 'reasoned explanation' for its refusal to regulate greenhouse gases."

Now that's a lot different than we've been hearing from the Lamestream Media (ABCNNBCBS).

:D

[DE644]

I believe that if SCOTUS actually made it a demand that the EPA monitored the so called Green House gases, then we would have a case of legislation from the Judiciary. The Kyoto Accords have not been passed into law by the Senate yet. So there is no law to enforce. It seems to me that SCOTUS is backing it self into a cornor where it does not belong.

[Jamble]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the ice caps on Mars are also melting. Could it be those darned Martians and thier greenhouse gasses.
:confused:

[basssniper]

Hold on tightly to those wallets ladie and gentlemen. Uncle UN is about to dip into your pockets for this one. If you resist, you will be called a luny. Go ahead and call me crazy then because we all know it is BS. We have snow predicted for Thursday thru Sunday of this week. In upstate NY we are suppose to be experiencing spring by now. Global Warming? I don't believe you.

[Sourdough]

".......may not regulate only IF it is shown that the gases do not contribute to global warming". Since carbon dioxide does not contribute to global warming, there you go. Unless of course the Dimbos decide to challenge what the meaning of "if" is.

[Whitetop]

1. There is no scientific evidence C02 causes global warming.
2. There is no scientific evidence we are in a long term warming trend.
3. There is no scientific evidence Al Gore has a brain.
4. CO2 is not a priority pollutant; therefore, EPA cannot regulate CO2 emissions.
5. The SCOTUS did not have any fact on which to base their decision.

We are in deep do do.

[qrayjack]

6 - Like all liberals, those on the Supreme Court base their decisions on the political smokescreen generated by the left rather than the Constitution, and by "consensus" rather than scientific fact.

7 - See #3 with this exception: There is increasing evidence that algore does not have a brain. Maybe in their younger years, Tipper... never mind.

[Duncan]

I would just submit that CO2 is indeed a greenhouse gas that actually does cause global warming. If it didn't, our planet would be an ice-ball. What's at issue is whether humans are causing some sort of run-away greenhouse effect, and whether warmings and coolings are cyclical. Two things to know:

1. Volcanoes produce a million times more CO2 than humans. One volcano is probably worth several decades of human activity.

2. CO2 in atmosphere doesn't just accumulate unchecked. It is bound by the "Carbon-Silicate Cycle." See A-D.

A. Nearly all earth's carbon is locked in crustal limestone, composed mostly of carbonate (CaCO3), hence nearly ALL CO2 is in the crust.

B. CaCO3 precipitates from H2O in presence of enough dissolved calcium + CO2.

C. The more CO2 in the air, the more dissolves in H20 exposed to the air.

D. If too much CO2 accumulates in the air and heats up the atmosphere, the resultant efficient weathering of limestone releases lots of Ca, which LOWERS (over time) CO2 levels.

Funny how Algore never talks about this well-known cycle and how it causes earth temperature to fluctuate. The earth is in fine balance -- I don't believe it would allow humans to change it drastically.

End of science rant!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whitetop]

The earth is not in fine balance but is in a constate state of dynamic flux. We don't want it to be static. Otherwise we wouldn't experience a change in seasons (at least like people north of the Mason-Dixon line or thereabouts).

It the earth was truly balanced we wouldn't have the chemical cycles like the CaCO2 cycle or others like N2, S, etc. We wouldn't have the drought cycles that occur or the wet cycles that can result in tremendous flooding like occurred on the Mississippi River basin I believe in 1994. We also wouldn't have uplifting of mountain ranges and the erosion cycles that follow. How dull it would be if it weren't for the dynamic changes.

[papajaxxx]

Sung to the tune of Feelings.

Feelings, nothing more than feelings.

The disinformation, propaganda, and just downright BS out there is phenomenal.

Some call this the "age of information." A more exacting title should be, "the age of misinformation." :banghead:

[Duncan]

Whitetop, I think we're splitting hairs here. How about if we say "fine dynamic balance."

[Whitetop]

Duncan: Your probably right. Hey, I was in your beautiful state last fall and got to see all the damage that sheet of ice caused that went through there a few thousand years ago. GW reduced that to liquid without help from SUV's. As Al Gore's GW continues you might want to replace the maples around your homestead with palm trees.

[Duncan]

You know I was thinking more of creating a mangrove swamp, as the water will be knee-deep around here.

I was just reading a snippet in the news from William Gray, the main hurricane predictor from the Weather Service, who opined that Gore is doing everyone a major disservice with his alarmist rhetoric and that "he doesn't know what he's talking about."

Course, this small news item was nothing compared to the 20 column inches devoted to screeching that the sky is falling just above it.