City criminalizes USA Patriot Act

[Terri]

City criminalizes USA Patriot Act

WorldNetDaily
May 19, 2003

Arcata is one of more than 100 cities to condemn the federal anti-terrorism legislation, but its city council is the first to make it a crime for a city department head to voluntarily cooperate with "unconstitutiona l" arrests or probes under the act, the Associated Press reported.

The crime carries a fine of $57.

Full Article (http://www.worldnetdaily.co m/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=32656)

[Granite River]

Maybe these city leaders would rather see Martial Law declared. PC is keeping us from doing what the Constitution requires our leaders to do to protect the nation from what is worse than an outright invasion.

We should clamp down on these Arab nationals with an iron fist. Round them up and eject most of them.

[Charie]

Quote[/b] ]Aracata, a coastal town of 16,000 about 300 miles north of San Francisco, has a left-leaning reputation in a largely conservative area of the state. In the early 1990s, it became the first city with a Green Party majority.



This says it all. A bastion of P.C. I'm no big fan of the Patriot's Act, but this is http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif If they have time in their council meetings to worry about national affairs, it tells me that they have too little work to do. The city could save some money by cutting down on the numbers on the council.

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[Wise Guy]

Here is ONE section of the Patriot Act which highlights how
DANGEROUS it is. This does not even touch on the Homeland Security Dep't or the upcoming Patriot II Act, and only covers one small item in the original Patriot Act.

Before we see the part in question, first take note of Amendment IV of the US Constitution:

<< The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized. >>

Now Section 215 of the Patriot Act [CAPS for emphasis, brackets for comments]:

<< The Director of the FBI, OR A DESIGNEE of the director [which means it could be ANYBODY] ... may make an application for an order REQUIRING the production of *ANY* tangible things (including books, records, papers, documents, and OTHER items) for an investigation to PROTECT against
international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities [notice it didn't say the things investigated had to even be connected to terrorism, just that they are doing it to PROTECT against it] ... NO PERSON SHALL DISCLOSE TO *ANY* OTHER PERSON ... THAT THE FBI HAS SOUGHT OR *OBTAINED* tangible things under this section. >>

While you're at work, the FBI can designate someone to clean out your house and take your car and they CANNOT tell anybody who did what. You will just come home to an empty house. I'm not warning you of heinous things to come - THIS IS LAW [albeit unconstitutional] RIGHT NOW!

This bill was the product of George W. Bush and John Ashcroft, and was supported by EVERY Republican in Congress, and all but a few in the House - despite the fact that NONE of them had even read the bill yet because it had NOT been distributed, and was probably not yet even written
at the time of the vote [according to Rep. Ron Paul].

Again, the Republicans blindly rubber-stamp anything from the administration, even if it means the destruction of the nation.

You might trust the Bush administration to *implement this bill properly(I don't), but even if you do, you are going to give these same onerous powers to Hillary one day. In fact, Hitler would be envious of such a bill.


The Un-American Patriot Act

http://www.thenewamerican.c om/tna....can.htm (http://www.thenewamerican.c om/tna/2002/01-14-2002/vo18no01_unamerican. htm)


Trading Freedom for Security

http://www.thenewamerican.c om/tna/2003/05-05-2003/vo19no09_trading.htm


The Entire Patriot Act

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3162.ENR:


Patriot Act II Draft

http://thenewamerican.com/focus/patriotact/patriotact2.pdf

[Bill Hodges]

Quote[/b] ]Here is ONE section of the Patriot Act which highlights how
DANGEROUS it is. This does not even touch on the Homeland Security Dep't or the upcoming Patriot II Act, and only covers one small item in the original Patriot Act.

I am VERY glad to know that I am not the only person to spend time disecting what the law's language is in the Act. The Patriot Acts and Homeland Security Act greatly jeopardize the very foundation of the United States Constition. It is something that not only can be greatly abused and abolish our personal freedoms, but can lead a direct path to becoming a Socialist state. It is very disturbing.

William (Bill) Douglas Hodges
T/O Ranch
Erick, Oklahoma



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[iansays]

Quote[/b] ]I am VERY glad to know that I am not the only person to spend time disecting what the law's language is in the Act. The Patriot Acts and Homeland Security Act greatly jeopardize the very foundation of the United States Constition. It is something that not only can be greatly abused and abolish our personal freedoms, but can lead a direct path to becoming a Socialist state. It is very disturbing.


Bill and I agree 100% on something. No ifs ands or buts.

The Patriot Act is such bad law it is terrifying. The PAII is even worse. Goodbye Bill of Rights; hello, secret police.

Anyone who cares about their personal freedoms should contact their elected officials and make sure they know you don't want the Patriot Act to become permanent. Most provisions of it 'sunset' in '05, but the Justice Department is pushing to extend that, perhaps forever.

It’s amazing what fear will do to change peoples’ minds about freedom.

[AngelsRWorldChamps]

I would give up all of my rights as a citizen of the United States of American to have Paula back.

The Pat Act works it has saved countless lifes and save even more

[Constitutional American]

Quote[/b] ]I would give up all of my rights as a citizen of the United States of American to have Paula back.

I feel for your loss AngelsRWorldChamps but your statement reminds me of a famous quote:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

[Saber]

Quote[/b] ]PC is keeping us from doing what the Constitution requires our leaders to do to protect the nation from what is worse than an outright invasion.


If "PC" in this case refers to President Bush refusing to follow his oath of office to keep this country safe from foreign invaders....then, yes...I agree with you.

The Patriot Act is nothing but a bandaid applied to a self inflicted wound that is festering with infection. Until he closes the border, the infection will take over all the body parts and no bandaid (PC) will cure the infection (terrorists). The wound (open borders) may be the death of many as it's left unchecked.

[AngelsRWorldChamps]

The wound (open borders) may be the death of many as it's left unchecked.

Hey Saber there's an open Senate Race in the state of Daley why dont you run I run the campain for you lol

ps Toby will me in Town 8/2

[BIG CASINO]

Wise Guy, your hatred of President Bush and John Ashcroft does not mean that the steps they have taken to protect the physical safety of Americans, are perforce wrong! Try to focus Guy. Swarthy men in their twenties, with Arabic names and accents, want to KILL US AND BLOW UP OUR BUILDINGS!!!

No law is ever "perfect" if it allows men to exercise physical control over other men--- freedom is lost in the process. But our present enemies don't see it that way for they believe they are serving a higher power by slaughtering us, and they can only be stopped by direct methods.

Patrick Henry didn't say "give me liberty or give me death, whatever", he most likely meant 'I will fight for liberty with all my might and I will do what ever I need to do to achieve it, even if I may die in the effort!'

These are extraordinary times we are living in and we must take extraordinary measures to survive them.


Paddle Forward, Kids

[rellybois]

Quote[/b] (BIG CASINO @ May 22, 2003 -- 3:50 am)]Swarthy men in their twenties, with Arabic names and accents, want to KILL US AND BLOW UP OUR BUILDINGS!!!
I appreciate the objective and thoughtful observations.