Forum Poll: When you vote this fall which of these two issues will be most important to you?

[Terri]

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You are welcome to comment on your selection by posting below.

Yes, we know there are many issues but are only covering two in this poll. We will cover a wider range of choices in future polls.

[RealDeal]

I voted Illegal Immigration...NOTHIN G is being done on that front...the WOT seems to be doing well enough fo rnow...and anyone against it will also be against strict border control, so they wouldn't get my vote anyway...

But our border is a huge and immediate problem/danger.

[Old Man]

I feel both are so important I have to really think on this.

I guess, simply because we are either a nation of laws or give up even being a nation, I have to go with immigration because so many laws are being ignored.

[azwhitewolf]

Of course, we're not encouraging one-issue voters, are we?

:peepwallA:

The War on Terror will be happening HERE if we don't seal our borders. We still have the chance to do it, but it won't last for long.

So I vote for Illegal Immigration to be addressed, and the War on Terror will take care of itself.

[de Seis]

Yeah, I agree with azwhitewolf, and voted "illegal immigration" since the war on terror is at least being addressed, and I don't trust the pro-amnesty crowd of either party.

[Bigdog]

Had to think about that for a moment. WOT and immigration are both extremely important, but without major tax reform we cannot continue to pursue either issue long enough to do a complete job of it. If we do not revitalize our economy and become commercialy competative in the world, nothing else will really matter. With a properly implemented Fairtax, we can achieve most of the "good stuff", so, looking farther into the future, I had to vote "other".

[rangerrebew]

I said WOT which should include illegal immigration. As far as I'm concerned, we either stop the war on terror or we cease to exist as a nation.

[Fubared]

I voted neither. Until we get rid of the partisan politics and elect adults to run our country it doesn't make much difference. Both parties are agenda driven and only listen to the loudest segments of the party supporters.
A pox on both their houses.

[RamingtonStall]

I chose Illegal Alien Invasion (aka Illegal Immigration by more politically correct types) as I believe the War against the IslamoFascists is being fought "on our time table" as President Bush promised immediately after 9-11-2001.

Frankly speaking, any politician must support the War against the Wahabi Islamo Fascists in order to even be considered as a serious contender for my vote or money or campaign support.

The Tie Breaker is where the candidate stands on the Illegal Alien Invasion and how his/her past actions have matched with his rhetoric at election time.

Right now, I really like W's position in the War and his support for Israel in the war against Iran-Syria-Hizbollah, but I am really disgusted with his sell out on the illegal Alien Invasion.

RamS

[RamingtonStall]

I voted neither. Until we get rid of the partisan politics and elect adults to run our country it doesn't make much difference. Both parties are agenda driven and only listen to the loudest segments of the party supporters.
A pox on both their houses.

The Democrats have created this environment as their last ditch attempt to win back power. Based on your post, it appears to be working. The Dems have not offered any substantive ideas and when they ventured what could masquerade as an idea for pulling out of Iraq immediately, the Republicans forced their hand so that only idiot Traitor Murtha could vote for his stupid proposal.

RamS

[hmschlmom]

I didn't vote for either of the issues as they are listed, as I choose to redefine them somewhat. I vote for LIFE issues.

I vote against those who would kill innocent people: babies yet unborn, disabled or elderly folks who are "too much trouble", etc.

The WOT involves killing those who are NOT INNOCENT, who are activly trying to kill those who are innocent, therefore, I am in agreement with it's goals. The stated goal of many of the terrorist countries and groups is to wipe Israel off the map... who is innocent in this, the kids anf their mothers in the bomb shelters or the terrorists firing rockets?

I want illegal immigration stopped, as this harms the people who are bumped out of jobs by the low wages the newcomers will accept, by the reduction of services my taxes pay for due to the large numbers from other countries that take them, etc. (this also goes for able-bodied residents who refuse to work -- remember the Bible admonition, he who refuses to work will not eat)

When an issue so clearly is one of innocent life over that life which is not innocent, I choose to defend the innocent. Hezbollah is not innocent, nor is Saddam, hamas, al'Quida, Iran, and many other groups and people out there who thrive on killing those they dislike. The USA is not perfect by any means, but we do try to do the best we can (yes, this is looking on the bright side) and will continue to do so.

Let's choose to assist the innocent folks who need it, not those who would kill them.

[clovers]

After careful consideration, I voted to control illegal immigration. Enforcing restrictions on entry into the US might also screen the would-be terrorists. In any case it would certainly curtail the drain on our national resources and benefits, providing more funding for its original purpose - to benefit legal citizens of the USA.

[Donna Son Io]

Both issues are important, as are other ones that people mentioned. But I decided the War on Terror is most important. Yes, things are going well now, but it might not stay that way if we get different people in Congress. As important as I think the immigration issue is, I think a candidate's stance on the war is more important. However, I would like to see candidates who realize that the two issues are related, because illegal immigration can be used to help the terrorists.

[fraatz]

I voted other. I can not vote for someone who isn't verifiably pro-life. Don't care what other threats there are. Don't care what you think about that either.

[tgclark]

I voted Illegal Immigration because if we can get our borders secure and start really checking for people that come into our country illegally or have stayed past their time and are now illegal then we will be able to stop the terrorists from coming in. Then the WOT will work for us and against them. I don't care where the illegals are from we need to get them out of our country.:twocents:

[CarolinaConservative]

It's impossible to isolate one particular issue where this Republican congress has grossly failed. They have gone against Republican conservative roots in so many areas(immigration, spending, big government) that they deserve special treatment this fall. The thought of a Democratic congress with Nancy Pelosi in charge is abhorrent but this Republican group deserves a term under the Democrats as punishment for what they've done. We should also consider a Republican gain as the worst possible scenario since it would embolden them to mess up things even further.

[kaizen]

:mad: These are not seperate issues. Closing our borders should be an intergral part of the war on terror since we need to keep the terrorists from entering the USA.

[KatyJ]

Welcome to our new :members:. :wavey: Please stop by and introduce yourself in today in the precinct.

I voted WOT. Our country is vulnerable for more threats . We have not only world terrorists who want to see our country suffer, but also homegrown terrorists. Our country will suffer without adequate attention from homeland security agencies across the nation.

[washburr]

I voted for War on Terror because it includes the Border issue.
I think that the Border issue is part of the War.
We must secure it, we must defeat Islamic Terror, We must defeat all Terrorism regardless of 'ism'. Like Communism (Thanks Reagan!) Fascism (Thanks Truman/Eisenhower!) Stupidism (Time to defeat Kerry!) Fanaticisim (Time to defeat Gore and Dean!) Socialism (Time to defeat Clinton!) Hatism (Time to defeat all Liberals)

[bakedbones]

I had to vote "other". The war on terror will continue to be fought and funded despite whatever turnover occurs in the legislature. W won't drop that ball, and woe to the congress that undercuts the funding. They can't force the recall of troops, and underfunding is the only way they'll hurt us, and I don't think the constituency will stand for that!

Where the borders are concerned, I think the NAU scheme needs more daylight shed upon it. Until the administration clarifies its intentions and provides the rationale behind it, any motions made regarding border security are nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Delaying action by continued debate is a tactic being adopted by congress.

This is the sort of thing we are used to watching the UN do, and to see it coming from our Senators, ( in particular ), is beyond troubling, . . it is insulting! All the same, new faces are not going to make that change, only a clear explanation of intentions from the White House will pave the way for action in the Senate on immigration. This half - stepping is a direct result of "some" of the people knowing about "some" of the ideas and many more pandering to various interests. Its a political football that will still be in the air on election day, and promises regarding its disposition are worthless because once the NAU scheme gets clearly laid out, all bets are off regarding the border. Personally, given the diasters regularly befalling the EU, I cannot see the reasoning for pursuing a North American Union. I understand the original fears of being left in the economic dust, back when the EU was first implemented, but they don't seem to be burying us, do they?

So, my vote will be based upon more general conservative values than actual issues! In case you're curious, my pets are listed in my signature, below!
:bow:

[secondpatriot76]

Getting a handle on illegal immigration is part of the war on terror. If we do not defend our borders, language and culture the war on terror will not mean much.

[The Victim]

kaizen" These are not seperate issues. Closing our borders should be an intergral part of the war on terror since we need to keep the terrorists from entering the USA.">>>>
Exactly. These two issues are one and the same. Our government has allowed thousands of terrorists to filter across our unguarded borders at will. We see that by Hezbollah demonstrations in Los Angeles and Detroit going on with no killing them by our "protectors" as well as terrorists activities across our nation. Along with these two issues, there should have been one 3. Accountability of Authority. This would get at the root of the problem.

[Terri]

While I agree the issues are interrelated they are definitely not the same.

Baked Bones mentioned funding. Money for our troops in Iraq and money for the border are funded separately and voted on separately.

The War on Terror encompasses the war in Iraq, support for Israel in their fight against Hezbollah, stopping terrorist fundraising world wide, radical Muslim activities around the world, nuclear ambitions in Iraq and N. Korea and many other topics that go far beyond our borders.

[preachertoo2]

My answer: illegal alien criminal invasion -which is just another part of the War on Terror. Illegal alien criminals who sneak into our country are no less terrorists than the bombers, etc;

I would also like to propose that the cowardly Democrats be forced to change the ID of their Party. They should become known as "The Deranged Jackass Party"; their motto should be "Cut and Run!"; their anthem should be "Help Me, Somebody!"; their music, the military bugle call "Retreat"; and their flag, a large rectangle of snow white cloth.

[january1934]

I voted "war on terror" because if the "cut and run" crowd gets into the Congress and the White House, it will show the terrorists that we are weak and not willing to fight them and it will just make them all the more bold.

[basssniper]

Both are very important, but like said prior, stopping illegal immagration is akin to war on terror .... in part any way. Beating the demoRATS in another election is the frosting on the cake. I love to hear them cry.

[noliberalhere]

It is a tough choice. I finally voted Illegal Immigration since it is part of the wider war on terror as well.
1. Take a look at what the leftists are doing down in Mexico City in paralyzing the city. Take a look at what they are doing here. We have enough leftist liberals in this country. We sure do not need to add another 11 to 30 Million to that number.
2. Illegal Immigration violates our laws and can allow terrorists become citizens under the stupid amnesty programs the liberal senators propose.
3 Here in Illinois the liberals(or should we call them socialists) convinced the Immigration Judge to grant a stay of deportation order on all the illegals that were rounded up on the IPSCO raids. Yeah! Like tty to find these illegals again a year from now.
4.I also have another issue besides Illegal Immigration and the war on terror; that is the loss of citizens rights. Why is it that the liberals are willing to let the illegals violate the law and strain our welfare system and tax dollars; but they will allow a citizen to have their property confiscated for the "greater good", or take away our 2nd amendment rights, or let our jobs be taken to India and South American countries and give the remaining jobs (even if they are lower paying) to illegals. Something is seriously wrong.Maybe the solution is to take the worthless UN delegates, all the liberals, and all the illegal immigrants and send them to Iraq in exchange for bringing the brave soldiers home. Thereby, the worthless UN delegates, all the liberals, and all the illegal immigrants will have a ground floor opportunity on really screwing up an emerging nation. It will increase the ground presence of Americans in Iraq substantially, the terrorists in Iraq and the surrounding nations will blow their own brains out since they won;t be able to stand it, and we will have ridden our United States of liberals, illegal immigrants, the UN and all the attendant problems they create!!!

[MOblonde]

I voted Illegal immigration, I think that without a tough hard line on this issue the "war on Terror" is lost. How can we stop terrorists from blowing up our cities if we can't keep them out of the country. I grew up in San Diego and believe me I understand why they want to come here but wouldn't it be better to enforce our laws and build a big tall fence, then help them to turn their country around. We are a great country and if we could turn Japan around financially after WW2 we can help any other country to develop financially.

[autocad]

Good poll. A lot of my friends (and me) are pro-life, but I view many other issues just as important.

How about another poll Terri? Add pro-life and/or free trade?

[Sourdough]

I voted for the war on terror because it would necessarily cover illegal immigration as well.
With a mojor drive (fat chance) both would come under US security priorities.

[Thundercat505]

everyone in office is screaming that we need to have the influx into our population for the money they spend here, but none of them are thinking about the money going out of the country or the money spent on the free medical, food stamps, etc that we have to provide the illegals with. that is money that is better used elsewhere.

then there are new estimates of up to 30 million illegals already here. then you add up the other than mexican that are coming in and you have possible terrorists coming thru the border, then you have estimates that there are at least 3 nukes that have been brought in over the border, then you add the ms 13 gang giving everyone fits all across the nation.

immigration has got to be dealt with or we americans will become the minority in our own country and we will be over-run with gang members, terrorists and what ever else decides to come across with the hope of amnesty!!!

hopes that a lot of these people will join the military is bogus--they don't want to fight for the country, they want what ever they can take or will be given by our government until they break us.

I had to vote immigration.

[makamends]

I voted immigration. If there is no United States then we'll all be on our own. Maybe we'll form trible associations or something???

[Whitetop]

The borders need to be secured to prevent more illegal aliens from coming into this country. Had our immigration laws been enforced for the past 30 years we wouldn't have had 9/11. After all, how many of the 19 hijackers were here with expired visas?

The lack of border control is my greatest disappointment in President Bush. The problem goes back further than this administration. Congress needs to listen to the complaints about the illegal alien issue. If democrats gain control we will see a flood of illegals we have never seen before; because this becomes their next big voter base.

The communist candiate in Mexico has taken a page from Al Bore's playbook on claiming the election was stolen. He will back his play with force if necessary and we will have even bigger problems to deal with.

Illegal aliens; issue one.

[Old Man]

regarding the inflows and outflows. Maybe Jackbenmble knows but, a lot of the inflow in payroll taxes is to the feds and alot of the outflow is from the states which the feds don't reimburse them for.

So Feds get the inflow and the states get the shaft. Since the feds are only worried about making their own books look better, why not increase payroll taxes and not reimburse states?

I hope Jack can shed more light on who is actually paying for the shortfall illegal immigration creates. If it isn't the states, I apologize for bad info.

[qrayjack]

The choice should not have been between these two issues because they are almost equally disasterous. Almost. I voted WoT. Illegal immigration is a mess and a political hot potato that nobody wants to do anything about. The war on terror is about people who want to kill us. Not to be trite, but those weren't Mexicans in those airplanes on 9/11.

[Terri]

The choice should not have been between these two issues because they are almost equally disasterous.

Of course it should. That's what I wanted to know. :laff: Just kidding.

Seriously, the two issues do have some things in common but they also have major differences.

Beyond that, they are definitely the top two issues for conservatives this fall.

Autocad, we will do a comprehensive issue poll, probably several of them, before the election.

But someone gave me an idea for a different one for tomorrow so we'll do that first.

EDIT: Will run another poll next week instead of tomorrow.

[Old Man]

I see your point. But, it made me curious.

In Phoenix, 80% of the homicides are either involving the victim or the perpetrator is an illegal immigrant and in Los Angeles they said it is as high as 90% so I wonder when we look across the nation if we have had more people killed by illegal immigrants (from many countries, not just Mexico) than were on 9-11.

Not picking on anybody, it just make me think of that stat of 80% and 90% illegal involved one way or another in murders, naturally if they are the victim they don't count as an American killed but across the nation and over the years? It may have taken longer but if we look at say a five year period, who have killed more Americans?

[Terri]

Not sure if you're talking to me OM but I see the issues very separately.

The War on Terror is with Islam and is worldwide beyond our borders.

Our friend Israel is fighting radical Islam now and it has nothing to do with our border. We could close them tight and that wouldn't help us as we travel in other countries, protect our military abroad or our financial interests in other countries.

I'm frankly amazed at how many people see the two issues as one.

Solving either one will not solve the other so they cannot be the same.

[deeggg]

IMMIGRATION, IMMIGRATION, IMMIGRATION
I never want to see the American Flag being hung upside down beneath a Mexican Flag again! I am sick to death of pressing 1 for English. I have been emailing anyone who solicits thru the mails and their solicitation is written in English and Spanish. One would be led to believe that there are only two Nationalities in America, we Gringos and the Hispanics. I would not have believed in a million years that our Government would ever have to consider actually passing a law that would make English our National Language.
The marchers insulted every US citizen by calling us Gringos, telling us to go back to Europe because this was their country not ours. But if we object we are called RACISTS.
How any American citizen can remain complacent about immigration is beyond me, but I do agree with one post. Our politicians have their own agenda, and they are not listening to the voters who put them in office.
What's the deal with Bush's plans for a North American Union erasing all borders between the US, Canada, and Mexico. After review I understood completely why he is pushing for Amnesty, etc. Most Americans are not even aware of this signed agreement, and here in Texas they already have the blueprints for a Spanish company to start building the Trans Texas Corridor from Mexico straight thru Texas and upwards.
It all makes me sick. Governor Perry is a weakling, and unless a real American Patriot runs for office in this state or the Nation I don't believe that I will have anyone to vote for in any of the upcoming elections.
Tancredo ignored my plea to move to Texas

[jeff locke]

I voted for other because without addressing our stifiling tax code that exports jobs and adds to the lucrative jobs of lobbyists by passing the Fairtax H.R. 25/S. 25 and signing it into law, we will fold as a nation without a shot being fired. You don't have to take over economically defeated countries by means of war. They will conveniently collapse from within. A nation of growing service jobs replacing the industrial and manufacturing jobs of our historic past and the economic growth in China come to mind. The Fairtax is my focus until it reaches the President's desk pure and true to its original sponsor in Congress, Representative John Linder.

[steve66oh]

My issue is family court reform. Equal parenting works, no-fault divorce leading to sole custody (84.4% mom) and state run collection agencies designed for income redistribution, does not work. I'll vote for any Republican who speaks positively about equal protection of fundamental parental rights. In any race where the Republican fails to discuss family court reform, I'll vote for the opponent. If we can't beat the liberal feminazi oppression of fathers, then I'll join them. So count my vote as two, I WILL vote this issue this fall, whether the GOP takes a stand on it or not.

Equal joint custody will level the field of divorce. A level field will discourage divorces, because if neither thinks they'll have an advantage, neither will DRAG the other there. Discouraging divorces is BY FAR the BEST way to preserve the institution of marriage.

For President in the Ohio primary, I'm writing "Dr. Mark Klein" unless the GOP figures out that this domestic issue is more important than anything happening on the other side of the globe, or even the border. If we don't fix marriage by fixing divorce, we soon won't have a nation worth defending!

[azwhitewolf]

3 Here in Illinois the liberals(or should we call them socialists)
http://img188.imageshack.us /img188/7092/illinoisnazis2medium hp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Illinois Nazis.

I hate Illinois Nazis!

:p

/Irresistable Blues Brothers reference
//Native of Chicago
///It's in my blood

[1rover]

W has lost his resolve! He has sold us out to international business, who have turned their backs on America for their greed for money and power! What happened to the rule of LAW? The illegal alien invaders has broken every law in the book, and our rule of law president and senate wants to give them citizenship! This is a outrage! Jail the business owners and officers who hire them! Send illegals aliens home NOW! The laws are already on the books! We have a Vietnam brewing because the WOT has turned into a PC war by our stupid politicians! Execute the gitmo detainees as spies (out of uniform)! Free American military jailed for college pranks! Level the Sunni triangle Now ( it should have been done a long time ago)! Jail cindy shehane and her anti-war fiends for causing the deaths of 2500+ American Military by giving aid and comfort to the enemy!

[feduptexan]

Illegal Immigration. It IS tied to the WOT.

DHS/IG report 45,008 OTMs released from terrorist countries:

http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/OIG_06-33_Apr06.pdf

~snip~
The report reveals that 45,008 aliens from countries on the U.S. list of state-sponsors of terror (SST) or from countries that protected terrorist organizations and their members (SIC) were released into the general public between 2001 and 2005, even though immigration officers couldn’t confirm their identity.

Do the math. That means that more than 38,000 individuals from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen, whose identities could not be verified and who could be working for terrorist groups, are today roaming the streets of America.
~~

Someone asked about stats on crimes committed by illegal aliens:

The Violent Crimes Institute study:
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

Immigrations Human Cost -- CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
http://www.immigrationshuma ncost.org/text/crimevictims.html

~snip~
There is an enormous number of Americans who have been harmed by the criminals who pass through the nation's open borders. For that reason, this section can only provide a symbolic tribute to the many unnamed victims who have been killed, raped, robbed, crippled and otherwise personally violated.

[Bucks Beefs]

The war on Terror seems to cover both and mostly all considderations.As far as I am concerned any illegal act done in the USA by an illegal is a direct terrorist act and should be considdered as such.After all it is being done by an alien to and against law abiding citizens and or their property or person.
Tell me the difference between the attact on the twin towers and the Alien robbing the bank and killing people in the act.Except for the size of the act there is no difference.Both acts were done without considderation or concern for american property or life,by an alien with no rights at all. bb

[Fubared]

The Democrats have created this environment as their last ditch attempt to win back power. Based on your post, it appears to be working. The Dems have not offered any substantive ideas and when they ventured what could masquerade as an idea for pulling out of Iraq immediately, the Republicans forced their hand so that only idiot Traitor Murtha could vote for his stupid proposal.



Disagree with above opinion. The environment was created by uncontrolled federal spending, lack of vetoing pork barrel and earmarks, failure to reduce size of government, ignoring the will of the people. and the perception of lack of leadership. These were not problems created by the Dems. This is not the time for name calling if we, the people, want to get back control of our government.

Fubared, I edited your post, and put your quote in proper form instead of the PHP which didn't fit in the frame. :D JJ

[nanny1]

While both the war on terror and the illegal immigration crisis are important to me as they impact each other, I chose illegal immigration as my main issue as we can't be successful with the war on terror without closing our borders, securing our borders and allowing NO AMNESTY. We need to enforce laws we already have on the books, we need to get really tough on illegal aliens who are caught, as well as, on employers knowingly hiring them. If we can't send them back or if their country does not want them back, put them in prison. Between the war on terror, higher crime across the country, the threat of disease, higher cost to taxpayers for their health, education, etc, it is just not fair to put this kind of burden on our country. I will vote for candidates who secure our borders first...I support the House Bill and any candidates who vote for the House Bill which does not include amnesty in any way. As far as I am concerned, the Senate Bill is borderline treasonous and I get really angry hearing the President say we need a comprehensive plan now. We need a comprehensive plan to close the border and prosecute those that enter our borders illegally. NO guest worker program enhancements, amnesty etc. That can all be debated later...close our borders, prosecute the one' caught breaking our laws. It is that simple.

[Rose St. Louis]

I voted illegal immigration. The porous border provides terrorists with entree to our country--with almost no risk of being stopped or discovered. Mark my words: Illegal immigration is bringing terror to our own shores and this will come back to haunt us.

Re the ugly partisanship: The most radical elements appear to have taken control of both major parties, I'm sorry to say. I predict this will foment the rise of a strong, electable third party as the massive middle continues to feel marginalized and alienated. How about the "American" Party, dedicated to doing what is in the best long-term interest of America?

[makamends]

The most radical elements appear to have taken control of both major parties,

Looks like those elements have total control of the Democratic party. They have too much, but not total control within the Republican party.

massive middle continues to feel marginalized and alienated.

The massive middle vacillates between America and socialism without even realizing what they do. They cannot continue to stand for nothing and find happiness. Combining that mass into a third party would just fragment more which I'd imagine is why they don't promote third parties in this forum. The values that are America are kept by the conservatives. Citizens only need to choose to return to their roots. Where would we be at this moment without the conservatives in the House and the few tough ones in the Senate? My votes will support them.

[Speedway]

I voted other, because no one issue decides for whom I vote. I'd never vote for a democrat because they lie to get elected and then mostly vote straight liberal. Look at Evan Bayh as an example. Now some republicans lie, too. However, I'm voting for whoever the republican is regardless of his/her stance on any issue, but only because the alternative would be a democrat who can only be trusted to bash republicans and offer NO solutions to anything.

[Luckyme]

I voted illegal immigration because it is so very easy for terrorists to walk across our borders and attack us. I see it as an intregal part of WOT. We know we have cells here just waiting to put their plans in action. If we could get some control over those already here and those coming across our borders, we might prevent another major attack on our soil.

The WOT is for the most part, being fought off shore in other countries and by trying to cut off their funding.

While it's true that funding for these issues come from different parts of the budget, I believe they are interrelated just the same. In my case, I could have voted for either issue and felt comfortable doing so.

[sunisusi]

I voted for WOT because I don't want anyone letting their guard down.. media has forgotten that, immediately following 9/11, our President said this would be a long, drawn-out fight against terrorism. But I feel an immediate, total, strong commitment needs to be made to secure our borders.

Having just returned from So. Cal, where I grew up, I felt I was leaving a different country. The area I was in seems to have become more 3rd world. I certainly didn't feel the pride my grandfather had in the 20's when he originally relocated to his wonderful, progressive new life in California!

[javajoy]

Welcome to the :gopusa: forum sunisusi. Thanks for posting. I have a sister in law living in Vacaville. Used to be such a beautiful area.

[sunisusi]

Hi JavaJoy, Thanks for the welcome! I am so glad to be back in Vacaville, and wouldn't be surprised if I know your SIL! I was with the Reporter for several years.

Being in So. Calif was pretty depressing, but my family is there, so I spend a couple of weeks yearly down there. I feel a malaise is spreading from the LA area outwards, and it feels threatening to me. Somehow it needs to be reversed.

Tell your SIL hi for me!

[billybigrigger]

Read someplace in a three way race against a Republican, a dem and independent that campaigned on closing the border and deporting the illegals the independent would win.

[lance sjogren]

There are stark differences in where candidates stand on illegal immigration, while I don't get the feeling that candidates are offering widely differing approaches to the war on terror.

There are issues at the margin, like the wiretapping and stuff, but not at the core of the war on terror issue.

I would have thought the poll would be to pick between the Iraq war and illegal immigration, however. The Iraq war is a hot issue, the war on terror doesn't seem like it's up there at the forefront.


But no matter how the question would be worded, so long as illegal immigration is on the list, I rank it number 1.

It also happens to be the best issue for Republicans this year; it very well may be what allows them to hold the House.

[Floridaguy]

I put a different choice, not because I have one, but because the two choices are the same in my opinion. The War on Terror must be fought both overseas and at home, and the way to begin to fight it here is ending illegal immigration. Illegal immigration IS a part of the war on terror because it has and can have a more dramatic effect on terrorism than anything overseas could, and affect us immediately on our own soil.

[perado762]

I voted for the WOT because the borders are a subset thereof. Until that is realized and accepted, we have little hope of survival as a nation.