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raider
03-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Congressman: Immigration stance led to snub by GOP

Memphis conference says it wanted only top-tier presidential candidates

By BILL THEOBALD
Tennessean Washington Bureau


WASHINGTON — Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Republican and a leading advocate for tougher immigration laws, claims that he is being intentionally excluded from this weekend's big GOP gathering in Memphis.

But officials with the Tennessee Republican Party, who organized the Southern Republican Leadership Conference that starts today, claim nothing of the sort and say neither Tancredo nor his staff has contacted them. A spokesman for Tancredo said contacts were made.


"Congressman Tancredo was snubbed by some party leaders who still refuse to confront the immigration issue head on," said Will Adams, a Tancredo spokesman. "They can keep Congressman Tancredo off the main stage, but they will not be able to do the same with the issue."

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lance sjogren
03-10-2006, 12:49 PM
They can run but they can't hide.

jackbenimble
03-10-2006, 01:26 PM
They say he is not in the top tier but he comes out in the top 10 of every straw poll that I have seen that is honest enough to include his name. He frequently gets excluded from these polls and I've come to the conclusion that it is intentional because the RINOs are absolutely terrified of him.

REgards,
Jack

arthur
03-10-2006, 03:17 PM
i like tom tancredo , he's the only guy that i support on immigration and i reference him in letters to the gop everytime i get the chance . right now on - neil cavuto - they are talking that with both the dems and mr. bush being so battered that its a good time for a third party . they of course are talking libertarian , i like libertarians except for their open borders stance . maybe tom could run as candidate in a competing party , don't know which one . maybe form the - minuteman - party !!

jackbenimble
03-10-2006, 04:44 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">i like libertarians except for their open borders stance [/QUOTE]

The Constitution Party is the one you are looking for. They are not nearly so whacky as the Libertarian Party (Which has a big &quot;L&quot;; small &quot;l&quot; libertarians are a lot more sensible but they don't have a party, just a philosophy).

You can be assured that no third party is going to win in the next few elections but it isn't that bad to cast a protest vote if you think the two main parties have become equally bad and don't really care which one has a go at wrecking America. It is way better than not voting because at least your protest gets counted and the politicals know that there are active but frustrated voters out there.

Regards,
Jack

Gazdaghorde
03-10-2006, 10:22 PM
Why is immigration such a controversial issue within the GOP? I understand why it is so important to people, but why the controversy? I know that this seems like a dumb question, but the subject never comes up here in MT. Whenever I ask anybody how they feel about immigration, they just shrug their shoulders. Just to be clear, I am wondering about opinions in the GOP, not GOP vs. Democrat.

arthur
03-10-2006, 11:06 PM
thankyou jackbenimble , i'll check out the - constitution party - . last time i voted libertarian in the presidential election but i forget the guys name . i voted 2nd tier repub who was thom mcclintock in kalifornia for governor .

arthur
03-10-2006, 11:47 PM
gazdaghorde : your in montana i think . i think thats what - mt - stands for . i've never been to montana but i'm from the u.p. of michigan which is similar to montana because it is very rural with small population but is a much smaller land area . anyway immigration is fine if it is controlled . at this time immigration is not being controlled by the federal government and you end up with hordes of illegals in kalifornia looking for jobs and taking low skilled jobs from low skilled americans . besides that the illegals just take up room so that population is growing in the usa . the illegals are moving throughout the usa but it might be ok if they stayed in texas , kalifornia , louisianna and border states close to mexico . thats not the case though and they are moving into the southern usa like georgia , carolinas because of the farm jobs . they are also moving to new york , virginia and lots of northern states . look at todays 100,000 illegal alien protest in chicago against a new law proposed by - sensenbrenner [i think]- that makes it illegal for anyone to help illegals . ------ i'm glad to hear that immigration is not yet a problem in [your part] some parts of the usa and i hope that it stays that way for you . i think that you ought to take it seriously but thats just my opinion because i really dislike uncontrolled immigration !! ------- i think that the gop likes illegal immigration because illegals replace lost votes from people like me when the illegals get the right to vote .

Charie
03-11-2006, 12:17 AM
Arthur, I'm a former Yooper myself. I live not too far from Green Bay and I'm here to tell you that we have an immigrant problem here, too. All of a sudden we have hundreds of Mexicans here in this small community because some of the plants have been recruiting workers in Mexico. This should never be. I have no idea if they're legal or illegal and I doubt those hiring them do, either.

Our governor believes in an open everything policy when it comes to illegals. Drivers licenses, access to medical care, lower rate college tuition. Anything and everything. The Republicans are blocking him on a lot of it, thank heaven. I just wish we had someone like Tom Tancredo around here. Jim Sensenbrenner is representative of the 5th congressional district and he's a good conservative, too.

In this article, I'm not sure if I think Tancredo was snubbed, though. He really isn't a viable candidate for president, in my opinion. He's known only for his stand on illegal aliens. I don't think candidates with only 1 plank to their platforms stand a chance.

lance sjogren
03-11-2006, 12:46 AM
Gazhdaghorde:


I guess there are a few states where illegal immigration is not yet much of a problem or issue, but rest assured that won't be the case much longer.

Illegal aliens seeking work have found the labor market glutted in states like California, in other words there are no longer opportunities in California even for someone used to working for a dollar an hour.

So they have fanned out to other states where the labor market has not yet collapsed as it has in California.


That is why illegal immigration has become a big issue even now in places like Long Island New York and Danbury Connecticut.

But as the labor market collapses in those areas like it has here in California, the illegal aliens will seek out places where there are still job opportunities. And there aren't many such places left. But there are a few, and I am not surprised that Montana is one of the few remaining such places.

So, rest assured, illegal immigration will be a big issue in your state as well before very long.

arthur
03-11-2006, 01:43 AM
hey cherie , do you remember the - gravadonis - they owned an italian market in neagaunee or ishpeming [ishpetoon] plus a bar if i'm not mistaken . i'm from marquette , harvey on lakewood lane [parents house] . i'm really from rumley , lawson road , my house was out past skandia in the snow belt if you know where that is . i think that you and i have talked about the history of the - pasty - in the great u.p. a few months ago . i don't know what its like up there in the last few years but i know that the illegals are doing fine in milwaukee so i'd i imagine that - green bay - is also being affected . yep , illegals and illegal immigration is a problem in the usa for americans . its not so bad for me because i'm not a little kid but its going to be a problem for the next generation of young american kids !!

Terri
03-11-2006, 09:02 AM
This seems like a good time to let everyone know that we don't provide this forum for the purpose of lobbying for a third party and we will not tolerate it. You need to go to the websites provided by that third party.

This is a privately owned forum and the owner made the decision that he would not permit this forum to be used to lobby for third parties before the 2004 election.

We understand that some of you will vote third party and work for a third party. We respect your decision but you cannot use GOPUSA's resources to do so.

I trust this policy is clear and will be respected.

Froufrou
03-11-2006, 09:23 AM
Crystal clear, Terri! I made the Perot faux pas long ago, but have not forgotten the error of my ways! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/winkie.gif

RE: Tancredo, he's coming to San Antonio June 1-2 and I will be there, with boudicca, to see him.

Slick Willie, are you in?

Luckyme
03-11-2006, 01:52 PM
jackbenimble <table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE"> You can be assured that no third party is going to win in the next few elections but it isn't that bad to cast a protest vote if you think the two main parties have become equally bad and don't really care which one has a go at wrecking America. *It is way better than not voting because at least your protest gets counted and the politicals know that there are active but frustrated voters out there.
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Sorry Jack, I completely disagree with you. We had a third party in CT just long enough to elect Wiecker for Governor. He ran on cutting taxes and promised he would never allow a state income tax to be enacted. Guess what, the first thing he did in office was to hold our legislature hostage until he got an income tax passed. He served one term and didn't bother running for a second. Who did that income tax benefit? Wiecker and his rich friends because he exempted dividends which is where the bulk of his money came from.

He had no accountability to anyone, but we have been stuck with the income tax ever since. That third party was gone very quickly and no one in this state talks about resurrecting another one. That one was a disaster.

If you don't like something in the party, work to change it. At least there is some accountability to the base and leaders that will listen if enough voices are raised for or against an issue.

Contribute to a candidate who shares your values, even if he is not from your state. With the Internet, it is easy to do research and donate. That is how you will improve your party. A protest vote to a third party helps the other party and can seat someone like Hillary or Bill. Then we'll be much worse off and nothing will change.

If Tancredo is your man, do all you can to support him and get involved with the immigration issue yourself.

OldBaldy
03-11-2006, 08:33 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">This seems like a good time to let everyone know that we don't provide this forum for the purpose of lobbying for a third party and we will not tolerate it. You need to go to the websites provided by that third party. [/QUOTE]

Good idea! * But the socialists once were a third party and they quietly worked their way into the Democratic Party, especially since McGovern. *Even though their founding philosophy has failed every time it has been applied they still keep pushing it, assuming that it failed because the wrong idiots were in charge.

I would hope that another third party, a conservative one, would quietly work its way into the Republican Party. *Goldwater and Reagan provided the spark, but it will be a tougher row to hoe because of the MSM and the corrupted public education system. *I hope this forum will help keep the Goldwater/Reagan spark glowing long enough to give the leftists a slow burn and eventually send them down in flames.

MeanOldGrouch
03-13-2006, 03:26 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">This seems like a good time to let everyone know that we don't provide this forum for the purpose of lobbying for a third party and we will not tolerate it. You need to go to the websites provided by that third party.
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Last I knew, Tom Tancredo was a Republican. Has something changed?

Terri
03-13-2006, 03:33 PM
Don't think so. Tom has said several times that if he runs he'll run as a Republican. If he does I'll probably support him in the primary. However, for full disclosure our primary means nothing on the national level.

But, we have a few folks who like to talk third parties some of the time and support Tancredo at other times. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif