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jackbenimble
03-04-2006, 09:06 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE"> Nelson wants to fence off Mexico (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=54&u_sid=2127402&u_rnd=7450278)

BY HENRY J. CORDES

There's a growing consensus in Washington that before Congress can address comprehensive immigration reform, it must first crack down at the nation's borders, U.S. Sen. Ben Nelson said Friday.

Nelson this week introduced a new border security bill, one that would go even further than the proposal he first outlined in September.


Among the provisions added since September is the construction of a $5 billion, two-layer reinforced fence that would stretch from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico along the 1,900-mile U.S.-Mexico border.

The latest bill also includes a requirement that all employers verify that their workers are in the country legally and adds 10,000 new detention beds to hold those found in violation of federal immigration laws.

&quot;It's a border-security-first bill,&quot; Nelson, a Democrat, said at an Omaha press conference.

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Well it was only a matter of time before the Dims flanked the Pubs on the illegal immigration issue. Here we have Ben Nelson, a Red State Democrat actually proposing to do something while the other Senator from Nebraska, the Republican RINO McLame clone, Chuckie Hagel throws his support behind the McCainneddy Shamnesty.

If those two were both running for President I'd vote for the Dim in a flash!

Fortunately, all is not lost for the GOP because two (of the five) actual conservatives Republicans in the Senate have signed up as co-sponsors. They are Jeff Sessions R-AL and Tom Coburn R-OK who I would love to see run for President.

Regards,
Jack

Terri
03-04-2006, 09:35 AM
Jack, I know this is your one issue but the rest of us would be interested in knowing where this Dem that you are so enamored of stands on other issues.

Yes Jack, there are other issues.

Find me a Dem that is better across the board on ALL my issues and I'll support him over a Republican but most people are not one issue voters.

jackbenimble
03-04-2006, 09:44 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Find me a Dem that is better across the board on ALL my issues and I'll support him over a Republican but most people are not one issue voters.[/QUOTE]

I was not saying all Dims are better than all Republicans and furthermore I think you know I don't believe that. Once again, it seems you are reading something different then what I wrote. To quote myself:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">If those two were both running for President I'd vote for the Dim in a flash![/QUOTE]

Hagel is a RINO of the worst sort and is almost indistinguishable from some of the worst of the Dims. He is also a media loving demagogue like McShame.

Nelson is a Red State Dim which means that in order to survive he has to be somewhat conservative. He is like our popular, reasonably conservative, Democratic governor Freudenthal up here in Wyoming. I liked his Republican predecessor better but he is far from a foaming at the mouth leftest and I'd vote for him over Chuckie Hagel if that were my choice.

Regards,
Jack

Terri
03-04-2006, 09:55 AM
I don't like Chuckie Hagel either but to quote JackbeNimble:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Nelson is a Red State Dim which means that in order to survive he has to be somewhat conservative. [/QUOTE]

I thought you were through voting for those who are &quot;somewhat conservative&quot; and only going to vote for those who are very conservative.

No? http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ok, so I'm pulling your leg a little bit but seriously, here's the thing. Is Nelson more conservative than Hagel across the board, not just on illegal immigration.

Most of us don't vote on only one issue.

OldBaldy
03-04-2006, 09:48 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Among the provisions added since September is the construction of a $5 billion, two-layer reinforced fence that would stretch from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico along the 1,900-mile U.S.-Mexico border. [/QUOTE]

Sounds good to me, even if a Dem proposed it. *Wonder how many other Dems will pile on as cosponsors just to move to the right of Repubs.

Figure we should build a wall just like the Israelis have with a no-mans land on our side and a controlled entry/exit portal every 50 miles or so. *Employ Mexican labor to keep the cost down and as their contribution to border security.

Froufrou
03-05-2006, 07:34 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">he [Nelson] is far from a foaming at the mouth leftest and I'd vote for him over Chuckie Hagel if that were my choice.
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Sounds pretty straightforward to me, Jack. I had no trouble following what you said.

This is about a $5 billion fence, is it not? I wish Hutchison would support it, but I'm afraid she won't. I have an even worse time convincing our Rep. Gonzalez when it comes to border security.

But, I'll keep trying. I think if the parties made a better effort to 'get the vote out' during the primaries people might be better informed and better candidates would be elected.